clara and gimp together?
Can packages clara (UNIX ocr) and gimp be installed together on the same computer? I can't get clara installed because xlibs conflicts with xlib6g.
mkisofs error: src/lib/FOO and oldsrc/lib.old/FOO have the same Rock Ridge name
Is the following true when it comes to using mkisofs? It comes from U. of Rochester online help. If it is true, does it mean that burning a backup CD w/ Rock Ridge attributes that mirrors my hard-drive is not possible? I'd prefer to have a back-up CD that stores files just as they appear on the hard-drive, rather than burn a tar archive which would avoid same name error. The Rock Ridge and Joliet extensions, used to permit non-UNIX OS to read the CDs you produce, can be confused by similar names. You may see messages like mkisofs error: src/lib/FOO and oldsrc/lib.old/FOO have the same Rock Ridge name mkisofs: Unable to sort directory. The only corrective action at this point is to rename one of the files (and hope that this doesn't cause you problems later...). E.g., in this case you might choose to rename the second file oldsrc/lib.old/FOO.OLD. -- http://www.seas.rochester.edu:8080/CNG/docs/cd-notes.html
fetchmail: socket error while fetching
How to use fetchmail to connect to IMAP on a remote host while going through a SOCKS proxy server (proxy.lafn.org:1080). There were no matches in the Debian Mailing List Archive Search for: socket error while fetching Looking at the FAQ: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/fetchmail-FAQ.html#K1 K1. How can I use fetchmail with SOCKS? led me to compile fetchmail with --with-socks: - uncommented deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list - ``apt-get update'' - ``apt-get source fetchmail'' - unbundled sources - unzipped diff file - ``patch -p1 fetchmail_5.3.3-1.1.diff'' - ``./configure --with-socks'' - ``make'' - ``make-install'' Configure won't work with --with-socks5. That option is mentioned in K1 of the FAQ: Alan Schmitt has added a similar --with-socks5 option that may work better if you have a recent version of the SOCKS library. This is what happens: # fetchmail -v -a -k fetchmail: 5.3.3 querying mail.marxists.org (protocol IMAP) at Sat, 07 Jul 2001 16:22:46 -0700 (PDT) fetchmail: running ssh -l rcymbala %h /usr/sbin/imapd mail.marxists.org 143 fetchmail: execl(ssh -l rcymbala %h /usr/sbin/imapd) failed fetchmail: socket error while fetching from mail.marxists.org fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET) fetchmail: normal termination, status 2 ...using this .fetchmailrc: poll mail.marxists.org with proto IMAP plugin ssh -l rcymbala %h /usr/sbin/imapd user rcymbala there with password password is cymbala here options keep The plugin command works outside the context of fetchmail: # ssh -l rcymbala mail.marxists.org /usr/sbin/imapd [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: * PREAUTH [247.114.25.64] IMAP4rev1 v12.264 server ready Maybe that 143 in the running line is wrong? I'm guessing (in fact, maybe I compiled it wrong, since that was really the first time I've tried to compile a program after about 3 years of Debian use). The Debian installation should be fine, after a fresh installation of 2.2r3 a few days ago (plus about 5 package upgrades with apt-get-upgrade). And finally, some details on the remote host: http://www.marxists.org/admin/workshop/welcome.htm#email Help! and thanks, -Rob Cymbala
Re: [UCLA-LUG] ssh via proxy?
Dear Yoshio: Hi. You don't know me, but the Internet has caused our paths to cross. I found a solution that can help us both when it comes to using Los Angeles Free-Net to make remote ssh/ftp/telnet connections through LAFN's socks proxy. While looking for a solution, I found a post you made back in February where you say currently I get 'no route to host' when I try commands telnet/ftp/ssh: [UCLA-LUG] ssh via proxy? http://www.linux.ucla.edu/pipermail/linux/2001-February/004507.html Then I found this message (which was written by me, alas, then forgotten about) from April on the debian-firewall list: Re: Using socks4-clients with proxy at L.A. Free-Net (LAFN) http://lists.debian.org/debian-firewall-0104/msg00031.html All that's needed is to edit a file (refer to ``man socks.conf''). Here's what mine looks like: ~$ cat /etc/socks.conf # socks configuration #direct 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 #direct 10.7.10.255 255.255.255.0 #sockd 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 #direct 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 sockd @=206.117.18.6 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 ppp0 ~$ I think the solution there should work on your Red Hat 7.0 box. It works for me on a Debian GNU/Linux (2.2r3) box. Perhaps more students and staff at UCLA would get an account with LAFN (for just $40/year) if they knew how to configure their GNU/Linux computer to work through proxy servers (so far I've been able to configure everything to work with LAFN). Below is an example (commands + stderr). We can see that the connection is established. Mr. Joost Kooij said it was going to be a simple solution, and sure enough it was! Unfortunately I saw many dozens of email messages and Usenet postings that had the no route to host problem behind a proxy firewall, but almost none mentioned socks.conf (the default route in /etc/socks.conf is direct, thus the no route to host). I think it's just a matter of self-education, and educating the educators. hope this email helped... --- ~$ ssh -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] SSH Version 1.2.27 [i686-unknown-linux], protocol version 1.5. Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. debian: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh-nonfree/ssh_config debian: Applying options for * debian: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 0 anon 0 debian: Connecting to marxists.org [216.39.174.30] port 22. debian: Allocated local port 1023. debian: Connection established. debian: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.9p2 debian: Waiting for server public key. debian: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits). Host key not found from the list of known hosts. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? no ~$ --- ~# ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:22135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:192.168.9.43 P-t-P:206.117.18.15 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:452 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:1 TX packets:426 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 ~# --- P.S. Command ``ssh'' comes from: http://packages.debian.org/stable/non-us/ssh-socks.html Regards, -- Robert Cymbala QUEBEC CITY: /// [EMAIL PROTECTED]Leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' J. GERSTENZANG (LA Times), 4/23/2001
Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200 [...] On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote: [...] Or even crawling? The '-v' option to ssh is your friend, and together with the manpages, there's suddenly a whole cosy circle of friends. ;-) Below is stderr from this command: $ ssh-socks -v -C -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 0:redpraxis.org:110 sleep 5 SSH Version 1.2.27 [i686-unknown-linux], protocol version 1.5. Standard version. Does not use RSAREF. debian: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh-nonfree/ssh_config debian: Applying options for * debian: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 0 anon 0 debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22. debian: Allocated local port 1023. debian: connect: No route to host debian: Trying again... debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22. debian: Allocated local port 1023. debian: connect: No route to host debian: Trying again... debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22. debian: Allocated local port 1023. debian: connect: No route to host debian: Trying again... debian: Connecting to redpraxis.org [64.176.182.204] port 22. debian: Allocated local port 1023. debian: connect: No route to host Secure connection to redpraxis.org refused; reverting to insecure method. Using rsh. WARNING: Connection will not be encrypted. /usr/bin/rsh redpraxis.org -l cymbala -n sleep 5 /usr/bin/rsh: No such file or directory -Robert
Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200 [...] On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote: [...] Or even crawling? The '-v' option to ssh is your friend, and together with the manpages, there's suddenly a whole cosy circle of friends. ;-) I'm using the version of ssh with SOCKS support, judging from stdout of this command: # apt-get install ssh-socks Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... Sorry, ssh-socks is already the newest version 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. But there's no manpage for ssh-socks: # man ssh-socks No manual entry for ssh-socks Do I read ``man ssh'' to find out why it said No route to host when I used the -v option of ssh? Cheers, Robert
Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200 [...] On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote: [...] Or install ssh-socks, but it is a non-free package, rms doesn't like it. I've got an unrelated, yet perhaps still important, question about packages. If package A conflicts with package B, should package B say that it conflicts with package A? For example (a biased example, involving ssh): $ awk '/^$/{if (p ~ /^ssh/) {print p, c;} p=c=;} \ /^Package:/{p=$2} /^Conflicts:/{c=$0}' /var/lib/dpkg/status ssh-nonfree Conflicts: ssh, ssh-askpass (= 1.2.27-4) ssh Conflicts: ssh-nonfree, ssh-socks, ssh2, debconf ( 0.2.17), debconf-tiny ( 0.2.17) ssh-socks Package ssh-socks doesn't conflict with anything, but ssh conflicts with ssh-socks and ssh-nonfree. Do rules for making packages say that conflicts have to be indicated by control-information of both packages? Cheers, Robert
Re: How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:51:47 +0200 [...] On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 07:00:36PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote: My remote provider (ISP-b) has enabled SSH on my account, but am still getting secure connection... refused. What can I try next? My local provider (ISP-a) is www.lafn.org that I use to dial-up (uses a socks proxy proxy.lafn.org:1080). Well, do you know what socks means? Look it up on the web if you have to. It practically means that you must rebuild your ssh with socks support, because IIRC the default ssh.deb doesn't have it compiled in. Here's what's in the status file. Do I need to rebuild? ~$ awk '/^$/{if (p ~ /^ssh/) {print p, s;}} /^Package:/{p=$2} /^Status:/{s=$0}' /var/lib/dpkg/status ssh-nonfree Status: install ok installed ssh Status: deinstall ok config-files ssh-socks Status: install ok installed ~$ Or install ssh-socks, but it is a non-free package, rms doesn't like it. Fetchmail gets email from mail.lafn.org using POP without a problem. Because that one can be reached with bare ip, likely. You can also put up a .forward at isp-b that forwards all your email automatically to isp-a, so you can pop there. That sounds like a plan. Then I won't have to figure out how to use fetchmail. Or even crawling? The '-v' option to ssh is your friend, and together with the manpages, there's suddenly a whole cosy circle of friends. ;-) I'll give that a try too... as if I weren't already friendly with the manpages! I've also looked at the FAQ for fetchmail. Maybe something is not sinking in. Cheers, Robert
How to fetchmail from ISP-b using SSH when ISP-a has socks?
My remote provider (ISP-b) has enabled SSH on my account, but am still getting secure connection... refused. What can I try next? My local provider (ISP-a) is www.lafn.org that I use to dial-up (uses a socks proxy proxy.lafn.org:1080). Fetchmail gets email from mail.lafn.org using POP without a problem. ISP-b also has POP email. I'm attempting to use fetchmail to get that mail too. I've tried this in .fetchmailrc (the real password will work using WebMail through a browser; I can see email): defaults user cymbala is cymbala no rewrite poll localhost with protocol pop3 and port 0: preconnect ssh -C -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 0:redpraxis.org:110 sleep 5 password Password; Result: secure connection... refused and fetchmail: pre-connection command failed with status 256 I've tried doing that ssh command by itself at a Bash prompt that started using ssh-agent: - used ssh-keygen to make a key. - ssh-agent bash - echo keyPassword | ssh-add -p - ssh -C -f ... ... - SAME RESULTS: secure connection... refused. Help, please! Here's an email from ISP-b: --- Start of forwarded message --- Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fetchmail on Debian GNU/Linux Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:56:52 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by zoon.lafn.org id f5NKopl51492 X-UIDL: C%#!!f5!!(BX!_0b! Hello Robert, I have enabled SSH on your account. Please give the server about ten minutes to process the request and give it another try. Thanks, Chris - - Original Message - From: Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: Re: fetchmail on Debian GNU/Linux Chris: Ignoring the fetchmail part for now, I tried this command from the root prompt on my GNU/Linux laptop. It's the command from preconnect from the example you emailed: ~# ssh -C -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -L 0:redpraxis.org:110 sleep 5 ...and got secure connection... refused: Secure connection to redpraxis.org refused; reverting to insecure method. Using rsh. WARNING: Connection will not be encrypted. /usr/bin/rsh: No such file or directory I read somewhere that sshd is _required_ to run on the remove POP3 mail server. Is sshd running on redpraxis.org ?? -Robert --- End of forwarded message ---
Re: Installation Problems
Margaret wrote: I assume that no one responded to my original message because it was in rich text format so here it is again - hopefully in plain text this time. [ ... ] I've installed Debian on a similar computer (without a CD-ROM drive) and along the way had to deal with the error message you're seeing. I carefully documented everything... http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html and http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html#install In particular, check-out this part: Here's another way to boot from Rescue Disk that worked with BIOS version 2.70 My best tip is this: Check your BIOS version. The computer I had was given to me with BIOS 2.70 and it needed to be upgraded to 5.0 (big leap). Upgrading the BIOS made the Debian disks work a lot better! Yours, -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or... [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUEBEC CITY -- The leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations... promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' -- April 23. JAMES GERSTENZANG, L.A. Times
Re: exim is making me crazy
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 10:28:57PM +0200, General Alcazar wrote: So, can somebody tell me what I have to do so that exim begins to wait for incoming SMTP connections? [ ... ] Glad to meet you. It made me crazy too. Try looking at the following guide. Below is the link and the relevant section. Does it help? Bye for now, Robert. http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html#mmc_email -- Make sure SMTP is listening (if it's not listening, this command will have no output): netstat -a | grep -i smtp If not (SMTP is not listening if above command gives no output): Add a line for SMTP to /etc/inetd.conf... #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services. smtp stream tcp nowait mail /usr/sbin/exim exim -bs Stop and start internet super-server: /etc/init.d/inetd stop /etc/init.d/inetd start Check again: netstat -a | grep -i smtp -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or... [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUEBEC CITY -- The leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations... promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' -- April 23. JAMES GERSTENZANG, L.A. Times
Droid: You can't pass out free software here.
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/06/01/1540231 --- (Thanks, Dan Kegal, who posted that to LULA in L.A.).
How to use junkbuster in lynx?
Can lynx be configured to use junkbuster? I've looked around at - lynx ? help screens - Google search - debian-user search - /etc/lynx.cfg but haven't found anything that suggests it can be done (with the exception of junkbuster's package page, that suggests using lynx: http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/junkbuster.html ). -RjC
Re: Sound Blaster 16 PnP
Hi: I use Sound Blaster AWE64 and found this one to be very helpful: Configuring Sound in Debian GNU/Linux http://www.tux.org/~tbr/sound-debian/ Last modified 02/27/01 05:43:01 Ted Ruegsegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's very recent and is more up-to-date than some of the HOWTOs and Mini-HOWTOs. For example, some older documentation goes into detail about the kernel, and how it needs to be recompiled. Whereas the above guide says: If you're using an out-of-the-box kernel, it almost certainly has support already compiled in for all likely modules, including sound, so you don't need to do any further configuration. Cheers, Robert On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 06:32:07PM -0700, Reza wrote: Hi anyone... I wonder if anyone would help me with my soundcard problem.. I use Sound Blaster 16 Pnp which is in ISA Slot, my friend told me to use ALSA instead of OSS, can anyone tell what packages do I need to install ALSA besides alsaconf ? Thank you very much Sincerely, Reza -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or... [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUEBEC CITY -- The leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations... promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' -- April 23. JAMES GERSTENZANG, L.A. Times
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
On Thu, 17 May 2001 23:19:48 +0100, Mark Baker wrote: I thought it did, but I've checked and it's only doing it on the retry database (in /etc/cron.daily/exim), not the others. I'll fix that. Below is my /etc/cron.daily/exim (it doesn't have exim_tidydb, though): #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following lines to get daily e-mail reports #if [ -x /usr/sbin/eximstats ]; then # eximstats /var/log/exim/mainlog \ #| mail postmaster -s$(hostname) Daily email activity report #fi # Cycle logs if [ -x /usr/bin/savelog ]; then for i in mainlog rejectlog paniclog; do if [ -e /var/log/exim/$i ]; then savelog -p -c 10 /var/log/exim/$i /dev/null fi done fi * * *
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
On Mon, 14 May 2001 at 11:38:48 -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: [snip] Try sending a message to a both to a disappearing and non-disappearing address. The disappearing address, after delivery, should show up with a D in the mailq output, while the non-disappearing address prevents the mail from being erased from the queue. Then you should be able to see what happened from the logfile. [snip] I have also been doing a lot of reading: - /usr/share/doc/exim/oview.txt.gz - /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz To answer one of my own questions previously posted, the way to see log messages for email messages that have already been delivered is to use ``exigrep'' ...for example: # exigrep aol /var/log/exim/mainlog And ``exicyclog'' causes log files to be refreshed. Thank you for explaining the syntax for mailq/head/cut/tail commands. OK, i tried sending a message to both a disappearing and a non-disappearing address. I knew that @yahoo.com would get to its destination, but @aol.com would not: $ echo TEST. | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here it is in the queue: # mailq 0m 307 150UOr-0001mF-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here it is in the main log (``exicyclog'' was used to flush old messages away): # exigrep aol /var/log/exim/mainlog +++ 150UOr-0001mF-00 not completed +++ 2001-05-17 13:29:33 150UOr-0001mF-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=cymbala P=local S=289 2001-05-17 13:29:33 150UOr-0001mF-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] routing defer (-42): retry time not reached 2001-05-17 13:29:33 150UOr-0001mF-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost defer (-1): 2001-05-17 13:29:33 150UOr-0001mF-00 ** [EMAIL PROTECTED]: retry timeout exceeded 2001-05-17 13:29:34 150UOr-0001mF-00 Error message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] After doing enough reading, it occurred to me that the reason why email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and select others) was marked as D for delivered (per man-page extract you posted in most recent reply) but was disappearing had to do with Exim's databases. It has these databases: - retry - reject - wait-* (e.g., wait-smtp) - serial-* Those databases remember what has happened in the past. The command to view those databases is exim_dumpdb. So, i dumped: # exim_dumpdb /var/spool/exim retry Lo and behold, the problem domains (like @aol.com) appeared with the strange message unknown error (or something like that). I don't have the exact error message from the retry database because of: # exim_tidydb -t 0d /var/spool/exim retry That command deleted all historical information (thus, I don't have wording of the error message). That did it! I mean, fixed the problem. After running tidy-db (with time set to 0d, or zero days) the retry database no longer gets in the way. In other words: # mailq 0m 307 150UOr-0001mF-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] has _NOT_ yet been delivered, but will be delivered once I establish a PPP connection using ``pon''. Two observations: 1. file://localhost/usr/share/doc/exim/oview.txt.gz Exim is not designed for storing mail for dial-in hosts. 2. file://localhost/usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz 41. INTERMITTENTLY CONNECTED HOSTS Exim was designed for use on permanently connected hosts. and, 41.2 Exim on the intermittently connected host 3. ``man exim_tidydb'' It is suggested that it be run periodically on all three databases, but at a quiet time of day, ... Now there's just one question remaining in my mind... is Debian configured to run exim_tidydb periodically? In my situation (the dial-up laptop) the whole retry/reject database thing is a hassle that doesn't really increase efficiency. I'm probably going to put exim_tidydb (with time 0d) into my daily cron jobs just to avoid the original problem: disappearing emails. Final note: exigrep reported that error messages were being sent upon retry timeout exceeded but the destination domain (@lafn.org) was one of those domains in the retry timeout exceeded group. Thus, error notifications were also being rejected, giving the disappearing message effect. Here's the original post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0105/msg00755.html THANKS Michael, Alan and Rob! Robert -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or... [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUEBEC CITY -- The leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations... promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' -- April 23. JAMES GERSTENZANG, L.A. Times __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
On Mon, 7 May 2001 18:58:33 -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:01:02PM -0700, Robert Cymbala wrote: I'm still seeing a problem. Have eliminated Emacs, by sending test messages with: $ echo TEST | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] This time I've noticed that an email message will appear in mailq output immediately after using mail, AND some messages just disappear for some reason. Here's a test script: [snip] Here is the report: [one message evaporates] Where did message 2 disappear to? I've run your script as a normal user and did not see this behavior: all messages were visible both in the $RPT file and in the output of mailq. This is what's under /var/spool/exim: This is the same as what I have, except that my undelivered mail is still in exim/input. Are these messages disappearing, or are they being delivered? I honestly think that they are disappearing. Have made the trip from LA to NYC, and right now I'm at my friend's place. Just now I plugged-in my laptop. The D-Link card is _not_ connected to the phone line. Command mailq showed nothing in queue. As non-root user, I typed 'echo TEST | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and did not receive any error messages. Immediately, I switched to tty1 and did mailq as root. It reported: 0m 312 14yfxa-7u-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then, about two seconds later, I repeated mailq and it didn't report anything! It disappeared, rather than was sent, since the only wire going into laptop is the power cord. Note that there's no D to the left of address; in another posting ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0105/msg01047.html ) there was a D next to that particular email address. Reading the man page, it says that per-message log files are generated, and that per-message log files are deleted after message is sent. I've seen such messages before. Is there a log of messages that have been successfully sent, or a place that tracks what is happening to the Hot49erfan message after it is in exim's queue? This I don't know. The problem doesn't seem to follow particular email addresses. The other day, email to sam was disappearing. Today email to sam stays in queue (waiting for PPP). Today email to Hot49erfan is disappearing (reproducibly, at that). If you get another reproducable one, try this: echo don't go away | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tail -f /var/spool/exim/msglog/$(mailq |head -1 | cut -b11-26 ) ; which will get the first message ID out of mailq and follow that logfile. It's reproducable. I sent a message to the vanishing address (N.B. with mail before the vanishing address), followed immediately by said tail command. Within one second of sending email, that tail command gave: $ tail -f /var/spool/exim/msglog/$(mailq |head -1 | cut -b11-26) tail: /var/spool/exim/msglog/14ygCG-AN-00: No such file or directory tail: no files remaining After a second or two, the same command gave: $ tail -f /var/spool/exim/msglog/$(mailq |head -1 | cut -b11-26) tail: /var/spool/exim/msglog/: Is a directory tail: /var/spool/exim/msglog/: cannot follow end of non-regular file tail: `/var/spool/exim/msglog/' has been replaced with a non-regular file; cannot follow end of non-regular file tail: no files remaining Woe is me... I don't know what to do next! to get it to work again. I'm also coming to grips with the fact that, historically, I don't know which messages were sent and which messages disappeared (don't know when this 'behavior' began). Thing is: I'm driving to N.Y. and will be on the road for a few days. But I wanted to post more information before leaving. Thanks again! Enjoy your trip. Rob It's been a great trip so far. Wedding at Chateau Briand last night was a good time. -Robert C.
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
I'm still seeing a problem. Have eliminated Emacs, by sending test messages with: $ echo TEST | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] This time I've noticed that an email message will appear in mailq output immediately after using mail, AND some messages just disappear for some reason. Here's a test script: #!/bin/bash SH=/root/foo.sh RPT=/tmp/foo.rpt rm -f $RPT whoami $RPT echo mailq: $RPT mailq $RPT echo Sending 1st test message... $RPT echo TEST | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo mailq: $RPT mailq $RPT echo Sending 2nd test message... $RPT echo TEST | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo mailq: $RPT mailq $RPT echo Sending 3rd test message... $RPT echo TEST | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] echo mailq: $RPT mailq $RPT echo * * * $RPT ### # Here is the report: root mailq: Sending 1st test message... mailq: Sending 2nd test message... mailq: 0m 306 14wpsP-0003Au-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sending 3rd test message... mailq: 0m 306 14wpsP-0003Au-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0m 294 14wpsP-0003Ay-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * The report file contains messages 1 and 2 (because I didn't use sleep, message 3 did not get into queue before final mailq). The odd thing is that when I do mailq manually, only messages 1 and 3 are reported as being in the queue! Where did message 2 disappear to? Just to make sure, I repeated the experiment: - remove all existing messages with mail -Mrm - re-execute test script that sends two messages to sam, one message to Hot49erfan. - mailq Yup. There's two messages in mailq, both to sam. Where did the other one go after it got into exim's queue? This is what's under /var/spool/exim: /var/spool/exim/: total 12 drwxr-x---2 mail mail 4096 Apr 8 17:03 db drwxr-x---2 mail mail 4096 May 7 11:38 input drwxr-x---2 mail mail 4096 May 7 11:38 msglog /var/spool/exim/db: total 24 -rw-r-1 mail mail16384 May 7 11:36 retry -rw-r-1 mail mail0 Apr 8 17:02 retry.lockfile -rw-r-1 mail mail16384 May 6 14:27 wait-remote_smtp -rw-r-1 mail mail0 Apr 8 17:03 wait-remote_smtp.lockfile /var/spool/exim/input: total 0 /var/spool/exim/msglog: total 0 Reading the man page, it says that per-message log files are generated, and that per-message log files are deleted after message is sent. I've seen such messages before. Is there a log of messages that have been successfully sent, or a place that tracks what is happening to the Hot49erfan message after it is in exim's queue? The problem doesn't seem to follow particular email addresses. The other day, email to sam was disappearing. Today email to sam stays in queue (waiting for PPP). Today email to Hot49erfan is disappearing (reproducibly, at that). Thing is: I'm driving to N.Y. and will be on the road for a few days. But I wanted to post more information before leaving. Thanks again! * * *
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
Could this have something to do with it... A week ago the power suddenly went off. Perhaps exim was doing something when the power went off, and got messed up? In the previous post, there were retry and wait-remote_smtp files in my _/var/spool/exim/db_ subdirectory. * * *
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
I've finally got a concrete question that has a technical answer. I ran this script: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/photospy.html and it created an email message. What are the Ds next to some addresses but not others in this mailq output: 0m 2.3K 14wrw8-0003EP-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] D [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my last posting, Hot49erfan was a recipient that would get into exim's queue, then disappear. It has a D. What's D? * * *
Microsoft lobbying against the GPL
Subject line is taken from a post by a LULA member (Linux Users Los Angeles): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lula/message/8069 ...about a New York Times article: May 3, 2001 Microsoft Is Set to Be Top Foe of Free Code By JOHN MARKOFF http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/03/technology/03SOFT.html More about the group, and replies to Dan Kegel's posting: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lula -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or... [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUEBEC CITY -- The leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations... promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' -- April 23. JAMES GERSTENZANG, L.A. Times
Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
I COULD USE some advice on where to begin trouble-shooting the following problem. Sometimes email that I send from Emacs (using C-x m compose-mail) does _not_ appear in exim. Buffer *Messages* says sending... done but sometimes the email does not appear in /var/spool/exim/input (they accumulate there until PPP connection). Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets into exim's queue, but mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] does _not_. Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] does _not_ appear in exim. Glad I caught that fact, but I wonder how many other messages disappeared into thin air. Packages installed: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/dpkg_l.html .emacs: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/_emacs.html Help! thank you
Re: Emacs sends mail, but doesn't show-up in exim.
Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I COULD USE some advice on where to begin trouble-shooting the following problem. Sometimes email that I send from Emacs (using C-x m compose-mail) does _not_ appear in exim. Are you sure it isn't in exim's queue? Run mailq as root... mailq as a user doesn't show everything. Michael Soulier also recommended checking the log, something I'm used to doing by by simply looking (as root with command ``ls'') for *-D and *-H files in _/var/spool/exim/input_. That's how I discovered the problem in the first place. (Sometimes it's fun to see a list of files in _input_ before making PPP connection, and then noticing that they've disappeared shortly after connecting.) Had not been aware of mailq until now, so can't say for sure (although mailq seems roughly equivalent to ``ls /var/spool/exim/input''). Today i sent a test message (to one of the two addresses that didn't work yesterday) and ran mailq as root. Thankfully, it did get into exim's queue (maybe the fact that it fixed itself is a sign i'm slowly loosing my mind -- only drugs involved are some cheap red and white wines, and an occassional whiskey cigarette). Maybe reorganizing .emacs and stop/start Emacs did something. Around the time email to certain addresses was not reaching exim, my keyboard was acting funny. Thanks, -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or... [EMAIL PROTECTED] QUEBEC CITY -- The leaders of 34 Western Hemisphere nations... promised to create a hemisphere in which `no one is left behind.' -- April 23. JAMES GERSTENZANG, L.A. Times
ifhp does not do HP LaserJet II
Hello, Package ``ifhp'' is a general purpose filter for HP LaserJet III, IV and V series printers. What to do for an HP II? Below is original question from a friend... I'll be sure to send John links to posted answer(s). THANK YOU... Robert, Do you have a link to a linux driver for an HP LaserJet II printer? I've read HOWTO's until I'm cross-eyed. I sent a query to HP. They responded with 'We write no drivers for Linux', followed by a full page of disclaimers on why they are not responsible for all this information and why I can't sue them for this remarkable revelation. :)) Tnx. -John Way
Re: sigh...big problems if anyone has time to help me out...
GPswyft writes: Well, here goes. I have installed debian a number of times, never successfully. [...] I install linux from the floppies. [...] I can't do this with a cd because i said before I don't own a cd burner. [...] GP, Consider using an external CD-ROM connected to the parallel port. If you don't mind bidding thru eBay, here are recent final bids ($60-$90): http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?ht=1query=bantam+backpack Nice thing about eBay is you can read feedback about sellers. Some sellers have hundreds of positive ratings and zero negatives. I've always had very positive dealings with sellers, except once when I bought directly (never buy something that isn't listed on eBay; if you feel you didn't get what was advertised a negative feedback can be left for the seller; it's powerful, and one gets the feeling that some sellers would rather be whipped with a wet noodle than get a neg. feedback). Here's some detail on how to use a Bantam Backpack CD-ROM to install Debian `potato': http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html Yours, -- Rob Cymbala2nd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG/PGP: www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/pubkey.html http://www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/airguard.html
Re: any women here?
Romain writes: It's hard to solve a problem when you don't see where the problem exactly lies. Exactly! Based upon a real-life experience, a letter that attempts to demonstrate where (I feel) the problem lies: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/careplan.html Men (especially men in Orange County) benefit from (need it be said?) patriarchy. (Well, maybe not all men, and especially not all men who volunteer with un-, anti- and non-corporate projects, such as debian.) Yours, -- Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...or [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG/PGP: www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/pubkey.html http://www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/airguard.html
How to remove zope from run-level 3?
Here's the situation: Installed potato (2.2r2) onto a 486 Compaq laptop and, as has happened before, Zope fails to start. The attempt to start Zope is the single longest step of the boot process, prior to getting login:. I'd like to skip starting (and failing to start) Zope. Here's the solution I'm trying. Change default init run-level from 2 to 3, and remove Zope start from run-level 3. Changing default run-level to 3 was easy; my /etc/inittab has: id:3:initdefault: I'm stuck at removing Zope from run-level 3. In ``man update.rc-d'' there's a REMOVE section, and it tells about using -f to remove a rc_runlevel_.d link even though the script hasn't been deleted. But the syntax for REMOVE seems to remove the program from all run-levels (whereas I'd simply like to keep from starting Zope temporarily, and would like to go back to a default run-level of 2 after Zope can be started without ...failed). Syntax: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] name remove How to remove Zope from only/just run-level 3? * * *
Re: URGENT! help w/ Linux@work
Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I just finished installing Debian 2.2r2 at work (boss gave me permission), but I don't know how to get the net working through a gateway. We have a linux server (192.168.0.1). I added it to the /etc/network/interfaces file (as the gateway), but when I try to apt-get w/ http (for dist-upgrade), it can't connect to any servers. Lynx doesn't work either. What else do I have to do? Please help, as I'm trying to make Linux look as good as it is. Thanks, Cameron Matheson Cameron: The first thing I'd recommend to make GNU/Linux look as-good-as-it-is, is to work with your network folks. Ask co-workers at workplace who run the network to collaborate on getting a Debian box talking to the network. The boss gave you permission, and now is the time to work with on-site experts (as opposed to figuring it out yourself in unknown territory). (I speak from a bit of experience, and if you're interested in hearing about some historical lessons, feel free to email me in private). After all, the spirit of cooperation is essentially what makes GNU/Linux look good. Yours, -- Rob Cymbala2nd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG/PGP: www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/pubkey.html www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/airguard.html
After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?
AFTER SEARCHING through about 18 months of debian-user archives and not finding a related thread, here's a question that's been on my mind looking for a high-level answer. Just now I did a fresh install of potato (2.2r2) from CD and chose these tasks: [*] Dialup Dialup utilities [*] Laptop A selection of tools for laptop users [*] Newbie Help New user documentation [*] Python Python script development environment [*] Python Bundle Full distribution of Python [*] Python Dev Full Python development environment [*] Python Web Python web application development environm [*] SgmlSGML and XML authoring and editing [*] Sgml DevSGML and XML development environment Everything seemed OK, judging from having installed slink/potato about a dozen times before (sometimes just for practice). After a reboot, I launched dselect and: - [S]elect - upon entering Select screen, pressed ENTER (- All packages -) - [I]nstall It said: ... 65 newly installed; 89.8MB will be used ... I don't get it. Why does dselect want to install so much, whereas the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the Have Fun! message) did not? The main installation routine didn't install such basic packages as ispell and finger, but somehow those two (and 63 others) were in dselect's queue of packages to be installed. Running dselect a second time doesn't install or delete anything. Is flushing dselect a normal part of installing Debian? If so, is there a design reason why it's meant to be that way, or did it evolve (in the negative sense of evolve), sort of like some packages use Debian Configuration and others don't? -- Rob Cymbala2nd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG/PGP: www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/pubkey.html
Re: After potato install, why does 1st dselect install so much?
David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:45:40 +0100 [...] Quoting Robert Cymbala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] Just now I did a fresh install of potato (2.2r2) from CD and chose these tasks: [*] Dialup Dialup utilities [*] Laptop A selection of tools for laptop users [*] Newbie Help New user documentation [*] Python Python script development environment [*] Python Bundle Full distribution of Python [*] Python Dev Full Python development environment [*] Python Web Python web application development environm [*] SgmlSGML and XML authoring and editing [*] Sgml DevSGML and XML development environment [...] After a reboot, I launched dselect and: - [S]elect - upon entering Select screen, pressed ENTER (- All packages -) - [I]nstall It said: ... 65 newly installed; 89.8MB will be used ... I don't get it. Why does dselect want to install so much, whereas the operating-system install (from Rescue Disk boot to the Have Fun! message) did not? The main installation routine didn't install such basic packages as ispell and finger, but somehow those two (and 63 others) were in dselect's queue of packages to be installed. What do you mean by operating-system install? If you mean the part of the installation prior to the reboot, well you wouldn't expect that part to install much. 89.8MB, let's see, what's that in floppies, sixty? No, that part of the installation only includes the packages that are needed to install more packages, i.e. it's a classic bootstrap process. Thank you for the feedback. It has prompted me to dig deeper into the install documentation; in fact, I've been able to answer my own question upon further reading! My CD set has (where M: is CD-ROM in Windows Explorer): --- file:///M:/install/doc/ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections 7.24 Select and Install Profiles version 2.2.20.0.1, 30 November, 2000 That section says: So, you have the ability to choose tasks or profiles instead. The latest install documentation version has: --- http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/ch-init-config.en.html#s-preselections 7.29 Simple Package Selection -- The Task Installer version 2.2.21, 21 March, 2001 That newer section says: So, you have the ability to choose tasks instead. Section 7.29 (version on-line) ends with a caveat: The second caveat is that some so-called ``standard'' packages are not installed by default. Thus, some software, which we consider basic to any Linux system, may not be installed.[6] In order to install that software, simply run tasksel -s, without selecting any packages, then select ``Finish''. Footnote #6 reads: http://www.debian.org/releases/2.2/i386/footnotes.en.html#6 This is due to a bug in base-config which we have fixed for the next release. We decided not to change this after Potato release, since it was a rather large change, and too likely to cause problems. So, until next release, I need to do ``tasksel -s'' as the final step of what I called operating-system install (better to have said, Debian install). It turns out that I noticed the bug in practice, and sure enough the latest install documentation addresses it and what to do about it. Thank you, -- Robert Cymbala 2nd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG/PGP: www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/pubkey.html http://www.Lafn.org/~cymbala/airguard.html
Re: Setting lynx up to deal with a proxy server
Ry wrote: Dear Debian Group, My ISP uses a proxy server and so prevents Lynx from working properly (or at least that was a possiblility that someone else suggested). I know for sure that my ISP uses a proxy server as they told me themselves. Please tell me what information I need from my ISP and then where to change it in the Lynx configuration files. Thank you very much, Ry My ISP (LA Free-Net) also uses a proxy server, as seen by searching for 'lafn' in Lynx configuration file: $ grep -i lafn /etc/lynx.cfg STARTFILE:http://www.lafn.org http_proxy:http://proxy.lafn.org:80/ ftp_proxy:http://proxy.lafn.org:80/ no_proxy:www.lafn.org Those settings are in section: .h1 Proxy
Re: pyton perl
Michael P. Soulier wrote: Oh, I didn't say this one tied your hands, except for the fact that I find it more difficult to make my code readable, because I can't just split lines wherever it's logical to do so. Can't just split lines in Python? Splitting lines where it's logical to do so is possible. Here's a sample, created with CPython mode in Emacs. The entire script is at: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/photospy.html 131# Create an alias down to the sent layer. 132self.info['data'][ 133self.info['roll_number_max']][ 134'sent'] = {} 135sent = self.info['data'][ 136self.info['roll_number_max']][ 137'sent']
Re: mail client that works through proxy
Cameron Matheson wrote: I want to have a POP mail account very badly (I'm getting sick of using this online account), but I can't get Mozilla's mail client to work through my proxy server. I did everything in the directions, but it just didn't work. Anyone know of one that works (or if I'm just dumb and doing something wrong)? For a year or more, I've been using email at Los Angeles Free-Net (on a 80486 laptop with slink/potato). Fetchmail downloads email and sticks it under /var/spool/mail/... Now I'm faced with the task of fetching email from a second POP server someplace else on the Internet, meaning it's time to figure out how to get fetchmail to work through my proxy server at LAFN. From a bit of research reading, one solution sounds like: runsocks fetchmail ... (the package is socks4 in potato/stable). That, i think, will SOCKSify the fetchmail process, making it possible to retrieve email from any POP server through the proxy. If that indeed does work, the next step (i think) would be to include it under /etc/ppp/ip-up.d -Rob Cymbala
Re: how to format a floppy in ext2
Karsten M. Self wrote: You can also mount a DOS formatted floppy as vfat if all you're interested in is long filenames. Have been able to do that by changing auto to vfat in /etc/fstab Upon further research (reading man pages), it appears that reading long filenames on a DOS floppy wouldn't even be an issue if vfat appeared before msdos in /proc/filesystems I'm curious: rather than tweak /etc/fstab, what's the proper way to change order in /proc/filesystems?
Re: pyton perl
Why Python? Cardinal Biggles had Eric, the infidel, in the comfy chair for over four hours before wringing this confession from him... by Eric S. Raymond http://www2.linuxjournal.com/cgi-bin/frames.pl/lj-issues/issue73/3882.html
Re: I want to StartX Manually
Dan wrote: To Whom It May Concern, I want to start the XServer Manually and not on boot. How do I do this. I have looked in the lilo.conf, xfree86.cong, and the inetd.cong thinking it was in there, but couldnt find anything. Where is it loacted? Any help will be honored. Thanks, Dan Andrew wrote: Get rid of /etc/rc*/*xdm . Alternatively, edit /etc/init.d/xdm to avoid starting xdm. ap Here's how I edited /etc/init.d/xdm to avoid auto-launch of xdm, the X display manager: 24a25,29 echo -n Start X display manager with: /etc/init.d/xdm sstart echo . ;; sstart) In other words, those lines are inserted immediately after the start) pattern within the case statement. Does two things: - renames start to sstart - causes start to simply print a message about using sstart And a third side-effect is: At end of boot-up, those echoed messages appear immediately above login: prompt where they are easy to notice (why, because xdm is the last step in boot-up). To summarize, with that edit, starting X can be done one of two ways: - startx - /etc/init.d/xdm sstart * * *
Re: Printing with dvips (print too close to top of page)
--- Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am using debian potato and am trying to print a document generated by latex. Problem is, the print starts right at the top of the page (no margin) and leaves a two inch margin at the bottom of the page (should be one). I have no idea where to even look for a solution. Is it in dvips, latex, lprng, magicfilters, printcap? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance Keith Johnson That happened using lout (print starts right at top of the page). For a while, my solution was to put several blank lines at top to push entire page down. The solution was to change paper type from A4 to letter in a Lout setup file. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Scripting help
Gancarz, THE UNIX PHILOSOPHY, ISBN 1-8-123-4-- This was a simple example of a shell script. Some shell scripts today span several dozen pages containing hundreds of command lines. When you account for the C code behind each executable, the numbers really start to add up. The resulting leverage boggles the mind. As we shall see later, this phenomenon even impressed Albert Einstein. -- Robert Cymbala http://www.LAfn.org/~cymbala/index.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmh crashes
--- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last Sunday I handed a Toshiba T4700CT laptop back to a fellow LA Free-Net user, who will give it to a Vietnamese friend. There's 80MB free space on HDD, so installing Emacs wasn't feasible. Now that I know xmh is ancient, we'll replace it with exmh. I wonder whether that swap can be done to Debian itself, through task-x-window-system (X Window System (complete)). One step in that direction would be to report a bug under the appropriate package to ensure that exmh is preferred over xmh. I didn't see xmh listed in task-x-window-system though. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and mh-e. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. Have never reported a bug before, but I'll give it a try. Is there a HOWTO-bug_report? Here's steps that indicate xmh is listed as part of task-x-window-system: -- http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Search Package Directories: task-x stable 100% task-x-window-system 2.1 (2.7k) http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/task-x-window-system.html depends: xmh X interface to MH mail system __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: xmh crashes
--- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, me-e comes with emacs, or does it need to be installed? Have been using RMAIL, and have considered Gnus after hearing good about it. I cc'd this back to debian-user as I hope that others may also find it to be of use. I hope you don't mind. mh-e has come with Emacs since 19.29 or so. ... Not at all, don't mind. Since debian-user is a hi-volume list, didn't want to clog it with questions I could answer myself. Last Sunday I handed a Toshiba T4700CT laptop back to a fellow LA Free-Net user, who will give it to a Vietnamese friend. There's 80MB free space on HDD, so installing Emacs wasn't feasible. Now that I know xmh is ancient, we'll replace it with exmh. I wonder whether that swap can be done to Debian itself, through task-x-window-system (X Window System (complete)). As for me, would like to keep using emacs with something other than RMAIL. Have used mh years ago on a Sun network (SUnix, Syracuse University's UNIX). Have not used Gnus, which is the next step. When I'm familiar with gnus, will be able to return to your email regarding using mh-e and gnus in concert (printed a copy of it). Much appreciated, Robert * * * __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Fetchmail cannot access SMTP port (I use Exim)
Someone at LULA (linux users LA) helped me solve this one. Question is, is SMTP listening? If not, fetchmail has no where to go. netstat -a | grep -i smtp If not, try the steps buried in this document: http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html -Rob Cymbala --- MamoMC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few mails above a wrote about a problem with Fetchmail, Exim and Procmail. Now I realize that most likely I have a problem with Fetchmail which, after downloading, says: --- fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.tiscalinet.it fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP) fetchmail: normal termination, status 10 --- In Fetchmail man I can read about exit code 10: 10 The fetchmail run failed while trying to do an SMTP port open or transaction. Then I try, both as maurizio (standard user) and AS ROOT, to connect to the SMTP port. What I get is: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet mamo 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet mamo smtp Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused --- I think it has something to do with permissions and/or security. If I can get this to work I'll get Fetchmail+Exim+Procmail[+Mutt] to work. How can I solve the problem? Can anybody help me, please? TIA! Bye, Maurizio. -- Virgilio Mail - Il tuo indirizzo E-mail gratis http://mail.virgilio.it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Where are clear-text passwords stored?
Is this list an exhaustive list of places where my dial-up password is stored? I'm about to return a laptop after installing Debian for a friend, and want to make sure all my passwords are deleted. -- http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html#passwords
RE: After Debian install, XMS and HIMEM errors prevent Win95 laun ch.
--- Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very, very strange indeed, I've installed Debian (aug. 2000 release), Win9x, WinNT or 2000 and QNX (Neutrino) all on one machine and never had a similar problem. Did you by any chance run some extraordinary installation script or reinstall/upgrade some windows software afterwards ? Are you booting from a separate partition (a real linux boot) or using something like booting DOS/Win and then start loading linux (umsdos or something similar) ? Joris No, not extraordinary installation script. Yes, by chance, either immediately before or immediately after becoming aware of A20 address line (wish I could remember order of events) US Robotics software was re-installed, based on advice from a consultant who was helping me with another Win95 problem: sometimes just after modem disconnect, the PC would FREEZE cold. The former, booting from separate partition. Originally made an assumption that there was a connection between Debian install and the A20-address-line error. That now seems wrong. Seems like a vicious cycle of problems wholy within the Windows partition. Thank you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
After Debian install, XMS and HIMEM errors prevent Win95 launch.
This Symantec knowledge-base solution applies equally to GNU/Linux, ... just replace Norton SystemWorks with GNU/Linux ... Was able to fix by turning off power, unplugging a few things and then power-up. Lo and behold, Win95 came back, like it had a new life-support system or something. --- http://staff.wm.edu/jdhesl/articles/nav_himem.sys_missing.html Error: HIMEM.SYS is missing... or Error: Unable to control A20 line... After Installing Norton SystemWorks Situation: You installed Norton SystemWorks and restarted the system. Now Windows displays the error message: HIMEM.SYS is missing. Make sure that the file is in your Windows directory. or Error: Unable to control A20 line. XMS driver is not installed. * * *
Re: New to Linux
--- The Grand Oral Disseminator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Please provide detailed information so that I can understand it... If you would do me a favor and look at some documentation and let me know what parts are not easy to understand: Debian GNU/Linux on Toshiba T4700ct Notebook http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html Over two years I've developed a familiarity with Debian, but can't tell if it has been expressed in a way that others can understand. -Rob Cymbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
philosophical reasons
--- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Grand Oral Disseminator wrote: Hi... ... There are other distros that are easier to install (well, actually, easier to get working with your modem/graphics setup/printer/etc), but once set up properly, Debian is the premier distro, and once you get spoiled to it, you'll never want to go to any other. In addition, I believe Debian is the purest Linux distro, so much so that it's not even called Debian Linux, but rather Debian GNU/Linux. There are philosophical reasons for adopting Debian over those other folks. ... Speaking of philosophical reasons, in Los Angeles there was a 1/2-hour radio interview with RMS (Richard Stallman) on Digital Village (90.7 FM). Audio (.ram) archives here: Digital Village Audio Archive http://www.digitalvillage.org/audio.html * * * __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: wvdial/ppp config question
Would you consider using pon to conntect to your ISP? It can be configured with pppconfig. Then try ``pon '' (part of the pon/poff/plog trio). --- Lily O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using wvdial to connect to my ISP. It connects and starts pppd, but none of my internet apps (lynx, telnet, fetchmail) can connect to any host. I think wvdial or pppd isn't setting finding the DNS correctly... Any help would be much appreciated!!! = --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Are you guys sure about that?
This question comes from LULA discussion list (linux users LA). There someone writes that with Red Hat 7, ``up2date'' is equivalent to apt-get update/upgrade in terms of security patches. So, switching to debian doesn't necessarily mean better or easier security... Message: 5 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:55:22 -0800 From: Dan Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: debian-user discussion: Debian or Linux 7??? Are you guys sure about that? With Red Hat 7, all you do is run up2date daily, and you have all the security patches. I'm not sure your criticism is justified anymore. - Dan Jason Helfman wrote: I couldn't agree more. I just joined the Debian Realm, and was with Redhat. What a load off the shoulders! On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 05:16:39PM -0800, Robert Cymbala thus spat: | | Regarding redhat or debian, there's currently a thread on | debian-user@lists.debian.org that centers on security ... | | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0102/msg03099.html | and | http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0102/msg03123.html | | Excerpt: | There is one primary reason why I would have chosen Debian over | Redhat in the first place. The auto-update feature. | | I am considering joining the debian family, but am a bit | concerned about security. | | Just how much more secure is Debian than redhat? | | #apt-get update | #apt-get upgrade | | do it every day an unless you are the first kid on the block | hacked you'll be secured | | its not as easy with red-hat * * *
xmh gives 'errno = 2' for scan and msgchk
Will xmh work without scan and msgchk? As soon as xmh comes up, two notice boxes appear: scan command returned: scan: (cannot execvp it) errno = 2; No such file or directory^G msgchk command returned: msgchk: (cannot execvp it) errno = 2; No such file or directory^G This is on a mid-1990's Toshiba notebook. Got xmh as a result of installing X Window System (complete) using tasksel. * * *
Re: New Install of Debian: How do i create boot disks???
Hi ~ Here's a method that installs Debian from floppy disks and then from a parallel port CD-ROM device (microSolutions bantam backpack). Debian GNU/Linux on Toshiba T4700ct Notebook http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html --- Mahalingam, Sivendiran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Does anyone know how to create Debian boot disks? I am trying to install Debian for the first time, but I only have a CD distribution, and my computer does not have support to boot up from a CD. Anyone got some creative ways to solve this probelm? thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: xemacs and html
This is meant for Windows NT, but this is a good reference. It goes step-by-step, and deals with the sgml-open catalog. And it includes emacs LISP syntax. SGML for Windows NT http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/book1.html --- Adam Read [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to edit html in xemacs I'm getting the error: External entity HTML not found Public identifier -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN I've tried other doctypes, but I just get the same error with whatever I replace -//W3C...//EN with. My syntax highlighting is now all messed up, and indenting has gone all wrong. I've tried using html-helper-mode. The syntax highlighting is right with that, but it apparently doesn't do indenting. I'm using xemacs 21.1.14-1 on a pure unstable box. Thanks for any help, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: debian from scratch? no CDROM. How to?
Two educational guides come to mind: 1. Go to http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/ Choose the lfs folder Choose the LFS folder This book describes the process of creating your own Linux system from scratch from an already installed Linux distribution, using nothing but the sources of software that are needed. 2. http://www.netspace.net.au/~gok/power2bash/ Welcome to the home page of From Power Up To Bash Prompt. The current version is 0.9, and was uploaded on 5 November 2000. --- I'd love to have the time to go through those real thoroughly... --- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my own education, I would like to start with a minimal linux ... Is there a step-by-step written for newbies about how to get started with recover operation?? TIA, dave = --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Mouse moves in emacs20 but doesn't activate menu bar
With gpm and emacs20 packages, a microsoft mouse on /dev/psaux moves the pointer within emacs (plain, no X windows). But right-click on any menu item (( Buffers/Files/Tools/Edit/Search/Mule/Help )) doesn't activate menu. Should it, could it? Or is F10 the only way to get tmm menu *Completions* buffer? Can clicking on menu w/ mouse cause a true drop-down menu, or is it limited to *Completions* buffer with a window system? Thanks
Re: deleting ~
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 08:40:23PM +0100, Attila Csosz wrote: I've a ~ (1 char) named directory in my home directory :) How could I delete it? ``userdel'' will delete a user account and related files. But why delete your home directory? ~ (1 char) named directory and my home directory are the same thing: echo ~ -- Robert Cymbala http://www.LAfn.org/~cymbala/index.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]