Re: WARNING: Libreoffice - Do not remove ~/.config/libreoffice
On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > due to another problem in libreoffice (no gallery, when dmaths is > installed), I > moved ~/.config/libreoffice out of the way, to get a fresh configuration. > DO NOT DO THIS except you have a backup available! Actually there are times when removing ~/.config/libreoffice is exactly what you need to do. The LO installer is rather brain dead so when you get reported file missing errors on LO start up, apt-get remove libreoffice && apt-get install libreoffice does not fix the problem. The procedure that worked for me was: apt-get remove libreoffice rm -rf ~/.config/libreoffice apt-get install libreoffice all as root of course. There may have been a better way to do this job but the above did work. Cheers Bob -- All along the untrodden paths of nature may be seen the footprints of an unseen hand.
Re: My bash script is missing something - what?
1. You have to be in the directory where the script resides. 2. Then: chmod +x test.sh 3. Then: ./test.sh On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 10/10/2016 8:00 AM, Robert Parker wrote: > >> you need to do: >> ./test.sh >> instead. >> >> > That just fails differently by responding: > > : No such file or directory > > I had seen that suggestion before while searching the web - don't recall a > page reference. At the moment I using http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Begin > ners-Guide/html/sect_02_01.html as my reference. > > > >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Richard Owlett >> mailto:rowl...@cloud85.net>> wrote: >> >> I have a trivial bash script named test.sh which has been >> marked as executable. >> Its contents are: >> >> #!/bin/bash >> cat /etc/debian_version >> mount | grep 'on / ' >> >> In a terminal I type: >> >> test.sh >> >> The response is: >> bash: test.sh: command not found >> >> I'm using Squeeze with Gnome2 as DE. >> What's wrong? >> TIA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Courtier "Sire I have bad news!" >> King "Yes, what is it?" >> Courtier "The peasants are revolting." >> King "Yes they always have been. Now what is the bad news?" >> > > -- Courtier "Sire I have bad news!" King "Yes, what is it?" Courtier "The peasants are revolting." King "Yes they always have been. Now what is the bad news?"
Re: My bash script is missing something - what?
you need to do: ./test.sh instead. On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:54 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have a trivial bash script named test.sh which has been marked as > executable. > Its contents are: > > #!/bin/bash > cat /etc/debian_version > mount | grep 'on / ' > > In a terminal I type: > > test.sh > > The response is: > bash: test.sh: command not found > > I'm using Squeeze with Gnome2 as DE. > What's wrong? > TIA > > > > > > -- Courtier "Sire I have bad news!" King "Yes, what is it?" Courtier "The peasants are revolting." King "Yes they always have been. Now what is the bad news?"
Re: How to load non-free firmware driver
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Robert Parker wrote: > > But now when I connect to my wirelees access point it gives me a > > 'connecting' message and finally connects only to immediately drop > > out and start connecting all over again. > > What configuration are you using to connect to it? Are there any > clues to the problem in /var/log/syslog around the problem? Basically > unless we see something it isn't going to be possible to help. (And > unfortunately since you are the one seeing the problem it may not be > possible for us to guess correctly at the reason anyway.) > > Thanks Bob for your help on this. I'm going to paste your writings into a file called 'wifihints I think. After a fair bit of mucking about I managed to get some syslog content into a file on my net ready laptop. Next trick was to boot with and without the usb dongle installed and direct the output of lsmod into 2 different files and diff them to show me the module or modules that I had to restart. The second boot was without the dongle so when I plugged it in to prepare for another boot the wifi just connected no problem at all. I take from this that in effect I've really just done a module restart. Thanks again, Bob
Re: How to load non-free firmware driver
On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-12-21 16:44 +0100, Robert Parker wrote: > > > I have a USB wifi dongle which does not work. > > dmesg gives me 'agent aborted loading htc_9271.fw(not found?)' > > I do have that driver because I downloaded the non-free firmware tarball > on > > anothe machine. > > It is also contained in the firmware-atheros package (in non-free). > > > My question is, where do I install this firmware? > > Put it into /lib/firmware. > > Thanks Sven, Driver issue solved. But now when I connect to my wirelees access point it gives me a 'connecting' message and finally connects only to immediately drop out and start connecting all over again. My access point is unsecured, I don't know if that has any bearing on the problem. Bob -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txe2nqqv@turtle.gmx.de > > -- The healthy eating pyramid as published by the USDA and it's satellites all over the world is purposely designed to bring about an epidemic of obesity, hypertension and diabetes. It is wildly successful in this aim.
How to load non-free firmware driver
Returning to Debian after a few years with Ubuntu. I have a USB wifi dongle which does not work. dmesg gives me 'agent aborted loading htc_9271.fw(not found?)' I do have that driver because I downloaded the non-free firmware tarball on anothe machine. My question is, where do I install this firmware? Thanks -- The healthy eating pyramid as published by the USDA and it's satellites all over the world is purposely designed to bring about an epidemic of obesity, hypertension and diabetes. It is wildly successful in this aim.
Re: [OT] British vs. American English
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 03/10/11 23:17, John Hasler wrote: >> I wrote: >>> The heirs of Herr Siemens might disagree with you on that, not to >>> mention Thomson, Faraday, etc. >> >> Scott writes: >>> and Tesla (AC). >> >> While born in Europe Tesla became a US citizen and did his important >> work as such. > > Yes - of course. I only watched "The Prestige" the other night - I must > be getting very old. > > Electricity didn't go much of anywhere without AC - I recall Edison > tried with DC. Can't remember alternators - would that be Seimens?? Tesla has been credited with spreading AC through USA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaykw6mgw4n_rufaxl4zqtk21awha6pfbxvdl-xiqgs5ag7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] British vs. American English
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 11:34:23 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: >> ... the length came over form [from] France, >> but a good deal more recently than 1066, and is spelt metre ... > > Is "spelt" a typo, Lisi? Or is that the way you spell it? We > would use "spelled", not "spelt". To us, "spelt" is a grain > (wheat, rye, spelt, etc.). And to the best of my knowledge, that > is the only meaning of "spelt" in American English. Oh yes "Spelt Bread on sale here, also miss-spelt Braed". > > -- > .''`. Stephen Powell > : :' : > `. `'` > `- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/1632726430.2245807.1317577430112.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com > > -- Broaden your kids education! Send them to Christian Schools so they can include the experience of being raped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAykW6nAwHb38w5h8hqR=qonivsbrscoevq_gy4cx437d1g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Wiping hard drives
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:39 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Sep 14, 2011 8:33 AM, "Eduardo M KALINOWSKI" > wrote: >> >> On Qua, 14 Set 2011, shawn wilson wrote: >>> >>> I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling by drilling an ssd. >>> >>> So, what is the best way for an individual to destroy an ssd? >> >> >> I'd say that if you drill the memory chips in the SSD it is destroyed >> beyond recovery. >> > > I would think that is obvious. However the task has gone from taking less > than a minute to taking >10. > > Have you ever tried to drill through a chip? And you're recommending doing > it dozens of different times? Really? What's wrong with dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX for SSDs? -- Why is it that people who tell me what I need to eat to be healthy are invariably obese? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAykW6nuuK2sYpuLBp8ncNJjJS8=KmATZ3jcZi-Z8f8Ma=4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fwd: How to flag packages as manually installed?
2010/8/20 Jörg-Volker Peetz : > apt-mark unmarkauto Thanks for that. This app will do exactly what I need. Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=dyrrtjn=ern93v0+1b74noh7nhekz4atdf...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: How to flag packages as manually installed?
So as to keep the same software set from one machine to another I use aptoncd and copy the contents of the iso to /var/cache/apt/archives and install the set using apt-get install -f. >From then on every time I use apt-get I get nagged to remove a list of packages which have been auto installed by using apt-get autoremove. I work around this by copying the list of packages to be removed into a bash script and apt-get -y install each of these packages in turn. All I get is a message saying that the package is the latest version and that it has been marked as manually installed. This is just a kludge and what I'd like to know is if there is some more elegant way of recording these packages as manually installed? Thanks Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimr32atc=4bf0a5s-ut5a8lwk23cgsimslr+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Printer Driver Brother on new Lenny installation (Solved sort of)
I have a working printer now. Unfortunately I was not able to get it going in Gnome in spite of installing the driver from http://www.profv.de/brother/ and also all available packages using "foomatic-filters-ppds" The solution finally was just to install KDE. The kde printer configuration presented me with similar or maybe identical choices to those offered in Kubuntu, and like the Kubuntu system the printer has just worked. Regards Bob Parker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer Driver Brother on new Lenny installation
Hello Florian, On 9/22/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 19:26:13 +1000, Robert Parker wrote: > > I need a driver for a Brother Laser printer model HL-2040. The system > > is an AMD 64 bit box and the debs provided by Brother are for i386 and > > will not install on this 64 bit system. They have released the source > > code for the driver under the GPL and I have downloaded it. For this > > printer there is a shell script and also a C program to generate a > > CUPS wrapper. > > > > When I run the shell script it exits with the folowing error: > > > > -- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Fri Sep 21 19:15:58 2007 ... > > localhost cupsd: Unable to read configuration file > > '/etc/cups/cupsd.conf' - exiting! > > Does the cupsd.conf file exist, is it readable? Do you have cupsys > installed at all? What I have is whatever came on CD1 using the Gnome. The printer configuration tool uses cupsys by default. Unfortunately Brother is not in its list of supported printers at all. I'm a little vague because the installation is at a friends place 2 hours away by train. > > > Please advise what I must do to compile and install this stuff. > > > > I have had this printer working on a Kubuntu 7.04 system using the > > driver for the HL-2060 (iirc) which was available on the installation > > cd. I have abandoned the Kubuntu system in favour of Debian Lenny for > > other reasons. So advice on getting and installing the Kubuntu driver > > would help also. > > Debian has several PPD files for the HL-2060 included in the > "foomatic-filters-ppds" package: > > $ dpkg -L foomatic-filters-ppds | grep Brother-HL-2060 | sed 's/.*\///' > Brother-HL-2060-Postscript.ppd.gz > Brother-HL-2060-hl1250.ppd.gz > Brother-HL-2060-lj4dith.ppd.gz > Brother-HL-2060-lj5gray.ppd.gz > Brother-HL-2060-ljet4.ppd.gz > Brother-HL-2060-pxlmono.ppd.gz > > If you install thias package you should be able to select these drivers > when you add your printer using the CUPS web frontend (or the KDE > printer administration tool). Great, the foomatic version was what I did have working in Kubuntu. > > If none of these drivers works then you can look for the corresponding > files on the Kubuntu CD and try those (in case Kubuntu uses modified > versions). The "add printer" dialog allows you to specify PPD files > directly; it might be necessary to unzip the files with gunzip first. > > Furthermore, a HL-2040 adapted PPD is available here: > http://www.profv.de/brother/ I think I will try that first. Thanks for your help. I will try your suggestions later this week. Regards, Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printer Driver Brother on new Lenny installation
I need a driver for a Brother Laser printer model HL-2040. The system is an AMD 64 bit box and the debs provided by Brother are for i386 and will not install on this 64 bit system. They have released the source code for the driver under the GPL and I have downloaded it. For this printer there is a shell script and also a C program to generate a CUPS wrapper. When I run the shell script it exits with the folowing error: -- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Fri Sep 21 19:15:58 2007 ... localhost cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/etc/cups/cupsd.conf' - exiting! Please advise what I must do to compile and install this stuff. I have had this printer working on a Kubuntu 7.04 system using the driver for the HL-2060 (iirc) which was available on the installation cd. I have abandoned the Kubuntu system in favour of Debian Lenny for other reasons. So advice on getting and installing the Kubuntu driver would help also. Thanks Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
On Wednesday 29 December 2004 01:22, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to > the Bible and the Word of God. Quite clearly you have not really read any of it. Abraham was a psychotic, just like any other pyscho that decides to kill a child. Moses was a political leader and a liar. As no doubt Mohammed. And so too that moron George W Bush. The entire thing is bullshit. I say that not as an atheist or any other kind of theist. Terrorism from any side is simply wrong. It's no surprise that Bush and the Bin Laden family are so close, they suffer from the samer lunacy. Bob Parker > > -Roberto Sanchez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
On Tuesday 28 December 2004 22:39, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 11:39 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >> On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:02 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > > >>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 03:42:09PM -0500, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > > [snip] > > > This quote doesn't mention "a time to think", even less "a time to > > question"... but if you started doing that, the bible - nor the quran - > > would not stand for very long. Unless you start to "doublethink" of > > course :-) > > Depends on which questions you are asking... It certainly does. A very good start would be "Was Abraham a psychotic"? Another good one. Pharoahs claimed to act as a communication channel between God and man. Moses was a high official in Pharoahs court. "Was Moses just imitating his former employer"? And the third "I'm out of toilet paper, what should I use"? Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?
On Monday 27 December 2004 06:32, Steve Lamb wrote: > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) > > Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not > repeat this particular piece of FUD. Studies of children who have never > used computers before do /not/ find Linux any harder to learn than Windows > (or Mac). They are just /different/ and a great many people have a problem > with anything that's different. They will always find the first thing they > have learned easier than any alternative. If you do not understand that > we'll have to review all the cases where people (normaly older, but not > always) having problems with computers and preferring non-computer > alternatives to do the same task because it is easier. :P I could not agree more Steve. Computerbank Victoria gives away recycled legacy hardware to low income earners. These computers run DebianGNULinux. Many of the donees are migrants from Africa and Mid East and most are learning English as adults. Others are on pensions due to intellectual disabilities. They are all able to learn to use the system. OTOH I do know one person who failed to learn to use a Linux distro and so had someone install WinXP on it. 3 weeks later she gave up on that too. She is the mother of a guy who manages 70 IP professionals, and a daughter who worked as an in house computer consultant in a local university. The difference? Just no willingness to learn. Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get autoclean
On Thursday 23 December 2004 20:57, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 01:18:38PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Ah! That'll definitely cause problems. I would recommend running > > "apt-get autoclean". > > Speaking of "apt-get autoclean", I think it would be nice to have an > option that does what autoclean does, but also deletes any packages that > have been installed on your computer. If it's installed ok already, we > don't need the archive, right? If you want to use jigdo to keep your install isos up to date maybe you do want to keep that stuff until yo've built the new isos at least. apt-get clean empties the cache when you are done with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automatic dial out for a modem
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:59, John Hasler wrote: > Robert Parker writes: > > Does it give the user the option of connecting or working offline when he > > runs a mail client or web browser? > > Demand-dialing brings up the connection automatically if and only if > something such as a browser tries to connect to the Net. The connection > goes down after a configurable idle period. Thanks Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automatic dial out for a modem
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 08:10, John Hasler wrote: > gcrimp writes: > > Look for diald, a demand dialing daemon. > > That's doing it the hard way. Configuring pppd for demand-dialing via > pppconfig is much easier. Thanks. It looks vey much easier. Does it give the user the option of connecting or working offline when he runs a mail client or web browser? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Automatic dial out for a modem
When the user starts an app such as a mail client or web browser I need to ask if an internet connection is wanted or not. If yes, then it needs to invoke something like pon or wvdial to make the connection. Google never got me anything useful. I'm quite happy to write a daemon if I must. Thanks Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware hassles: Linux vs. Windows
On Thursday 16 December 2004 05:02, Christian Convey wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > You should have a go at Mandrake, never had any problem with recongnizing > > hardware. Very good for easy-peasy installations and for friends and > > family who do not want to have hassle. > > Thanks, I'll look into it. > > I used to use Mandrake pretty happily, but then I had problems with > their package distribution system. I could sometimes select > combinations of packages for installation / upgrade that would lead to > an non-bootable system. That kind of unforseen problem worried me > greatly. I wonder if they've improved since the Mandrake 9.1 days... > > I've also heard that SuSE is pretty good in the "it just works" > category. Do you have a sense of why I might prefer one over the other? My son installed the next but latest Suse. It does just work so far as it is concerned but it will give trouble if you are dual booting Windows. It leaves the Windows partition unbootable because it rewrites the CHS record to something Windows doesn't like. Likewise Fedora 2. Can't comment on the latest Suse or Fedora I'm afraid. You can work around the above. Set up your partitions including initialising the file systems using Mandrake + cfdisk. Then install the other distro. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware hassles: Linux vs. Windows
On Thursday 16 December 2004 04:28, Christian Convey wrote: > > > But to be fair, that hasn't been my experience with Windows XP at all. > So I'm doubtful that the users' simplicity offered by Windows has > crashiness as a necessary consequence. To be equally fair, Windows XP is a lot more difficult to install on modern hardware than just about any recent version of Linux. I make that statement based on several dual boot installations over the last 2 years. And of course your non-techie Windows user just comes with intuitive knowledge of how to protect his installation from the internet by installing virus scanners, firewalls, and keeping his virus signatures up to date? About the only thing Windows really has over Linux when you take the respective hassles into account is that knowledge of Windows is spread wider. That is changing. > > (Also, it seems to me that a badly written driver can kill Linux just as > expediently as it can.) I only ever succeeded in killing Linux once in nearly 3 years, that was when I was stuffing around with hdparm. Individual applications do get killed from time to time. I still have a Win98 parition but its coming up 2 years this month since I booted it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian cd
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 01:53, Jianan wrote: > Hi, > > Ni hao! > > Is there a distributor of Debian CD in Singapore? I am looking for the > 'testing' CD. > > Jianan I track Sarge weekly, both cds and dvds. I'm located in Australia. Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shell script wierd behaviour
I'm running Woody. Just did apt-get update/upgrade and sudo was updated. Since then when I run a shell script I get the following: Looking at PWD=/home/neti... Looking at XAUTHORITY=/home/neti/.Xauthority... Looking at SESSION_MANAGER=local/debian:/tmp/.ICE-unix/926... Looking at GDMSESSION=KDE... Looking at BROWSER=/usr/bin/opera... Looking at USER=neti... etc etc What does on? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why debian
On Saturday 13 November 2004 00:35, Emil Perhinschi wrote: > > > I guess Debian is the best if you just want to start doing non-geekish > stuff like reading mail, writing term papers/articles/poetry/... , > listening music, watching movies or writing your own apps ... > > If you need a distro to compile your own packages on it, to configure it > the way you like it etc., then I guess it does not really matter which > one you use ... as long as you login as root and start a text editor all > Linux distributions are almost the same thing. If you want to have the > meanest and leanest Linux installation ever seen, you can always > install no matter what distribution and start building a Linux from > scratch ... I'd disagree with the above. Fedora for one thing has had it's libaries 'enhanced' to stop you compiling apps that might allow you to do stuff that the MPAA / RIAA don't want you to do. Mandrake being more or less the most "Windows" like distro stomps on any attempts to configure it the way you want. Both of those distros are brilliantly easy to install, and there are plenty of users who are happy with the default way they set up so they do have their place. But if you want ease of maintenance as well as configurability, Debian is really up there IMO. Gentoo gets plenty of good press in that area too if you can stand the initial wait. Ubuntu is great if you can cope with the steep jump from the windows way to the Gnome way of life, but otherwise still have all of the ease of Debian. The price of that flexibility is a steeper learning curve of course. I do have a box with a few 5 gig 'try it out' partitions, so I'll have to try both Slack and Gentoo out soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't burn CDs since kernel 2.6.7 - am I the only one?
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 22:43, Alan Chandler wrote: > Robert Parker writes: > > The '#' before the commands that work should tell us something, doesn't > > it mean that the user is root? > > The 2.6.8 kernel has a bug (or security feature???) that will not allow > > setuid root programs to run with root privilege. > > Just become root and run from there. I suspect that all will be well. > > You suspect wrong. I was well aware of this "feature" having read through > all the flamewar on lkml. All my tests have been conducted as root. > > It seems that DMA causes the hang, using ATAPI: stops DMA and then it > works. Hmm. Only time I succeeded in crashing my Woody box was mucking around with DMA. Can you alter the DMA parameters? > > I also tried > > cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc blank=fast > > And this also hangs (despite the fact that I have setup > /etc/cdrecord/default to be ATAPI:) > > Alan Chandler > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't burn CDs since kernel 2.6.7 - am I the only one?
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 18:44, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Tuesday 09 November 2004 18:33, Alan Chandler wrote: > > I used the simple command > > > > cdrecord dev=ATA:1,0,0 blank=fast > > > > and (with a Rewriteable CD in the drive) it then preceeds to hang. > > Just did a little experiement - loaded kernels right back to 2.6.3 and they > all hang > > loaded kernel 2.4.27 and this complains about missing scsi stuff BUT > > cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 blank=fast > > works on both 2.4.27 and 2.6.9 > > Seems this is something to do with DMA (or lack of it for this device?) The '#' before the commands that work should tell us something, doesn't it mean that the user is root? The 2.6.8 kernel has a bug (or security feature???) that will not allow setuid root programs to run with root privilege. Just become root and run from there. I suspect that all will be well. HTH Bob -- Give me ambiguity or give me something else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bizarre NFS Problem
On Thursday 04 November 2004 02:34, Derek \"The Monkey\" Wueppelmann wrote: > Hello All, > > I'm currently running debian 3.0 r3 and have run into an interesting > issue with my NFS mounts. On one of my debian systems (I have just done > an apt-get update/upgrade on all my systems) when copying or creating a > file on one of the NFS mounted directories I get an input/output error. > The interesting thing is that this only happens for a file size of > between 4833-4840 inclusive or any multiple of 8192 + 4833-4840. My > mount point has been setup in fstab with the following options: I know nix about nfs but FWIW, after the just done update/upgrade everything went wierd on my Woody r3 box until I rebooted it. Might be worth a try. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xcdroast stops working
On Monday 18 October 2004 23:04, Uwe Dippel wrote: > Robert Parker wrote: > > I think it's wong with 2.6.8. For security reasons it won't allow you to > > run setuid root programs. The only way you can run cdrecord is as the > > root user. > > You're abolutely right. I didn't think of limits of setuid. > > > AFAIK xcdroast is just a front end to cdrecord just like k3b. > > Sure, it is. But I prefered to use the app I'm simply more used to. > > > Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see how running a binary as root user is any > > more secure than running it setuid root. > > Sure, more secure. But also quite braindead. > By default it is more secure, because you cannot 'pass' permissions. This link just turned up in another thread, you might want to check it out. http://k3b.plainblack.com/index.pl/news2 Bob Parker > > Uwe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xcdroast stops working
On Monday 18 October 2004 21:23, Uwe Dippel wrote: > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:20:06 +0200, Uwe Dippel wrote: > > Linux dell 2.6.8-1-686 #1 Thu Oct 7 03:15:25 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux > > xcdroast 0.98+0alpha15 > > No solution, yet. > But something wrong with 2.6.8: > I simply booted to 2.6.3 and everything worked splendid; without any other > changes. Just booted to 2.6.3. > I think it's wong with 2.6.8. For security reasons it won't allow you to run setuid root programs. The only way you can run cdrecord is as the root user. AFAIK xcdroast is just a front end to cdrecord just like k3b. You might try 'cdrecord -scanbus' which I am fairly sure will give you an error in 2.6.8 Maybe I'm wrong but I can't see how running a binary as root user is any more secure than running it setuid root. Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What iso files are people using for sarge?
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 04:05, Jacob S wrote: > > This way you only have to download the software you want to use, instead > of the full 13CDs for Sarge (I think that's the size I heard for > Sarge... haven't had a reason to check). It's 14 cds now or 2 dvds. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused about modules
On Wednesday 15 September 2004 00:19, Kent West wrote: > Robert Parker wrote: > >That's dealt with the actual problem, but I notice that lsmod gives me 27 > >lines of modules, there are just 2 modules in my /etc/modules. > > Where/when/how do the other 25 modules get installed? Only 1 of the first > > 5 appears in /etc/modules.conf. > > Tools like hotplug and discover automatically load modules as necessary. > It's just that sometimes they miss a needed module, and that's why you > need to add them to /etc/modules to get them loaded. Thanks, that completes the picture. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Shutdown as a normal user?
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 20:38, Pradeeper wrote: > Hi All > > Is there a way to shutdown my Debian Sarge box without giving root > password (as a normal user)? > > Thanks! > > Pradeeper If in a GUI, Ctrl-Alt-F1 takes you to terminal. No need to log in Ctrl-Alt-Del to shut down. No privileges needed. The Ctrl-Alt-Del won't work in a gui so you have to get to a terminal first. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused about modules
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 13:08, Pigeon wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 10:16:53AM +1000, Robert Parker wrote: > > As root > > On a Woody system 2.4 series kernel. > > > > modprobe apm > > the module installs and is in the lsmod list but does not persist through > > a boot. > > > > insmod apm > > same story. > > > > So what command should I use to have apm installed on boot? > > echo apm >> /etc/modules I had a go at modconf, the more I look at it the better I like the above method. > > > I guess a second question is why have 2 commands doing the same thing? > > If you mean insmod and modprobe... insmod just tries to insert the > module specified and reports success or failure. modprobe will also > load any other modules that the specified module depends on. Thanks for that clarification, also thanks Adam and Kent. That's dealt with the actual problem, but I notice that lsmod gives me 27 lines of modules, there are just 2 modules in my /etc/modules. Where/when/how do the other 25 modules get installed? Only 1 of the first 5 appears in /etc/modules.conf. Thanks Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying a CD
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 13:05, Marvin Aguero wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have little experience burning CDs with Linux, but I have managed to burn > some data and audio CDs with no problems at all. > > I now face a new challenge: I'd like to duplicate a CD. The CD I am trying > to duplicate is bootable, so, I'd like to make an exact copy of it, not > just copy the files. > > Can anyone share some ideas as how to achieve this? > > TIA, > > -Marvin Marvin, If you mean an exact copy of the original iso, you need to account for the possibility of some padding sectors on your cd (if it was burnt, maybe a different story if it was pressed). Assuming /cdrom is your burner/reader and 0,0,0 is your dev for cdrecord etc. mount /cdrom df You get a readout of 1k blocks for all mounted devices, get the figure for /cdrom. Divide it by 2 to get the number of 2k sectors. umount /cdrom Copy the iso thus: readcd dev=0,0,0 f=copy.iso sectors=0-thenumberofsectors alternatively dd if=/dev/cdrom of=copy.iso bs=2k count=thenumberofsectors dd works on some hardware, readcd works on most. They tend to be mutually exclusive, dd working on devices that readcd won't and vice versa. then burn it: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=?? copy.iso Copying as above you will get an iso that exactly matches the one that produced the cd so you do an md5sum check on it if required. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Confused about modules
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 10:17, Steven Jones wrote: > try typing modconf and pic the module to install it. > > regards > > Steven I did try modconf and did not find 'apm', however echo apm >> /etc/modules as shown in another post has done the trick. Thanks Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to I?
On Tuesday 14 September 2004 10:29, Marcos Carneiro da Rocha wrote: > Try partition magic - it's not free. you might also get hold of disc 1 of Mandrake 10. I'm not that impressed with mdk but it's partitioning tools are excellent. Boot of it and set up your partitions then abort the install at that point. > > Marcos > > On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 21:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > To All, > > What software for windows can I use to partition a hard drive > > without losing windows so I can install Linux as a dual book > > computer. > > > > > > Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Confused about modules
As root On a Woody system 2.4 series kernel. modprobe apm the module installs and is in the lsmod list but does not persist through a boot. insmod apm same story. So what command should I use to have apm installed on boot? I guess a second question is why have 2 commands doing the same thing? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Partitioning a second hard disk
On Monday 13 September 2004 15:08, Scott Barlow wrote: > Thank you Andrew for your quick response. I have allowed enough for each > partition. If anything I will be wasting space which is ok for the > moment as i'm just experimenting. My computer consists of a 40gb drive > which has the install on it and a blank 80gb drive. My /boot is around > 100mb, my /, /var, /tmp is around 1Gb, my /usr is 10Gb, /swap is 1gb and > /home is 25gb. This is all freshly configured. I don't know what to do > with the second drive such as how to partition it to enable a lot of > space for files, movies, music etc and which mount point to give it. I > do want to do it properly however and am after any tips from the gurus. > My /swap space is physically in the middle of the 7 partitions. Do i > need /swap space on the 2nd hard disk or is that not possible? > Thank you in advance. > > Scott. FWIW I have a 40gig which I use to dual boot win98 and Debian Woody. I also have a 80gig drive in 1 partition which I just mount as /data. The last contains my collection of iso images of various Linux distros. If I had multiple users on my system I would give it the same perms as /tmp. HTH Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: knoppix vs standard debian?
On Thursday 02 September 2004 20:11, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote: > Thank you for your replies. > > I am thinking of ordering the (big) seven disk set from > an outfit like linuxcdrs.com. The 7 cd set is most likely Woody probably Rev 2 (3.0r2) which I run. It has considerable virtue, not least stability and security. However considering that you have been running knoppix, a selection from unstable and testing I believe, you would likely find Woody to be quite 'retro'. For instance I am unable to run the latest Mozilla or its siblings Firefox and Thunderbird because I lack the necessary libraries. So I need to upgrade to Sarge and will be doing just that over the next few days. I may be wrong on this but I believe Sarge is now included in the security update process. Even if I am wrong on that it will not be far away. The full set of Sarge comprises 13 cds or 2 dvds, but most folks could get by with at most the first 4 cds. If you have a halfway decent internet connection, maybe just the first 1 or perhaps the 'netinst' cd. You can probably glom what you need from a local linux user group for a nominal fee. I supply my lug members with gpl cds for just 1 AUD each as do 3 other guys in the same lug. We do it to spread the good news if you like and just about cover costs. HTH Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML editor. What to use?
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 17:05, cr wrote: > On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 01:29, Robert Parker wrote: > > On Tuesday 31 August 2004 18:08, cr wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:31, Francisco Borges wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I haven't build HTML pages in years and I'm looking for an editor > > > > that would allow me to have a quick (re)start. Any recomendations? > > > > > > > > Running Sarge here. > > > > > > > > thank you for your attention ;-) > > > > > > > > peace. > > > > > > 'Quanta' is pretty good and easy to use.Comes packaged with KDE in > > > Debian Woody, so hopefully is still there in Sarge. > > > > The version of Quanta in Woody (2.0) is so buggy that it is useless. It > > crashes continually in my experience. Hopefully it will be a lot more > > mature in Sarge because it does look promising. > > > > Bob > > Well, I'm using Woody 3.0r1 (I think), have been for a year, I've been > using nothing but Quanta for HTML editing and it's never crashed once. > And mine is Quanta 2.0 (using KDE 2.2.2) > > Possibly there's some feature I've never used that causes crashes... but > like I say, I've never seen one. > > cr Thanks for that info, maybe my copy is corrupt or something. I'll be using Sarge very soon I suppose so I'll just go on using gvim for now and look forward to trying the later version of Quanta soon. Cheers Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question about dd reading of CD
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 12:39, Paul E Condon wrote: > I've purchased a combo CD/DVD reader. I'm checking it. I find a > problem. > > With my old CD only reader, I was able to check on my CD writing by > using dd to read back a recently burnt CD and comparing the read back > file to the original iso using diff. diff is far too slow because of all of the seeks to the alternate iso images, better to do an md5sum on each iso. > > But when I use the new reader with dd and using a recent copy of > sarge-netinstall for which I know the true file length of the iso, I > get a file from dd that is 4096 bytes too long. By default cdrecord plonks 2 sectors (2048 bytes each) of nulls on the tail end of the burn. Hence the 4096 bytes extra. There is an option to turn it off Alternatively, just do the read back capturing only the data sectors. dd if=yourburner of=test.iso bs=2048 count=the_sectors_cdrecord_reported or better dd bs=2048 count=asabove | md5sum if you lose the sector count, you can retrieve it by mounting the cd and then getting the count of 1k blocks on it using 'df'. It will always be an even number of course.. > > But is it always 4096 bytes? Yes unless you change the cdrecord option. Or is it sometimes half or twice times > that? Only if you are using Nero in Windows and then the null sector count depends on the wind strength and direction or temperature of the day or whatever. Actually Nero in a version my son was using dropped 200 sectors of nulls or none depending on whatever random factors govern the behaviour of a Windows program. He has seen the light and now does all of his burning in Linux. Not yet Debian flavour but there is hope. HTH Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL/pppoe configuration problem
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 01:14, easf cdscvs wrote: > Hello, I just recently installed debian, and I can't > configure my ADSL connection. > When I run the configuration in the menu, it says it > found the ethernet device, > but the next step fails, something about "access > concentrator not found" and hinting that another > proccess may be using it. > I'm not particularly expert in this but I have ADSL on Woody. None of the adsl configuration methods within Woody were at all relevant because my adsl modem is not set up in bridge mode. The only thing I had to do was to configure eth0 and then configure my modem using it's web page. So the modem itself is doing all of the adsl stuff, all Woody has to do is talk to the modem, which for me is a Web Excell. Maybe there is something there that helps but I don't know your hardware. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML editor. What to use?
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 18:08, cr wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:31, Francisco Borges wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I haven't build HTML pages in years and I'm looking for an editor that > > would allow me to have a quick (re)start. Any recomendations? > > > > Running Sarge here. > > > > thank you for your attention ;-) > > > > peace. > > 'Quanta' is pretty good and easy to use.Comes packaged with KDE in > Debian Woody, so hopefully is still there in Sarge. The version of Quanta in Woody (2.0) is so buggy that it is useless. It crashes continually in my experience. Hopefully it will be a lot more mature in Sarge because it does look promising. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi-session CD copying.
On Saturday 28 August 2004 08:17, Scott Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 06:08:51AM +1000, Robert Parker wrote: > > On Saturday 28 August 2004 04:50, Scott Robinson wrote: > > > Are there any Linux softwares for multi-session CD copying? > > > > > > cdrdao seems to stop on the first session. > > > > > > I'm not subscribed to the list, please CC me in any response? > > > > > > Scott. > > > > man cdrecord > > man mkisofs > > > > Bob > > Neither cdrecord nor mkisofs do reading of pre-existing CDs. > > I don't think cdrecord can even be convinced to do DAO multi-session. > > mkisofs is only for creating or extending ISO9660 or UDF sessions. > > Any other suggestions? Thanks for your help! > > Scott. Just had a bit of a muck around with a multi session cd of my own. Looks like if its iso9660 you have to get it off file by file and recreate an iso. If it's audio maybe cdparanoia or cdda2wav might do the job. HTH Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi-session CD copying.
On Saturday 28 August 2004 04:50, Scott Robinson wrote: > Are there any Linux softwares for multi-session CD copying? > > cdrdao seems to stop on the first session. > > I'm not subscribed to the list, please CC me in any response? > > Scott. man cdrecord man mkisofs Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unsubscribe
On Monday 23 August 2004 00:41, Janine La Fon wrote: > This is one of the reasons I wish to unsubsribe. Children get on my > computer and I don't want them seeing things like this. Well why are are you giving them access to your mail moron? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compact version for running on 486/33 or /66 with 8->32 Mb ram
While worming through the pages I found a reference to a compact verison of Debian installation that was designed to work on a 486. I have not been able to find the link since, after 3 days of looking. Is there anyone that can direct me to the site where I can get more information on the deployment of DEBIAN on a relatively small 486 system? Or was my image an illusion of too many hours starring at a screen.
