Re: Netscape 3 & cookies
"J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You don't have to do that if you make the cookie database (cookies.txt in > > ~/.netscape directory if I remember correctly) a symbolic link to /dev/null > > Aren't cookies cached in memory? Now that you mention it... Does anyone know are they or not? -- /Tommi K/ Censorship sucks^H^H^H^H^H is for your own good.
Re: Netscape 3 & cookies
"J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know if it can be done with netscape 3; in case it can't, you could > work around it by installing "junkbuster" on your box and using that as a > web proxy. You don't have to do that if you make the cookie database (cookies.txt in ~/.netscape directory if I remember correctly) a symbolic link to /dev/null (ln -s /dev/null ~/.netscape/cookies.txt) and set NS to accept all cookies. When the cookie database is linked to /dev/null any cookie written to it will be thrown away. -- /Tommi K/ Nobody said computers were going to be polite
Where can I find working X packets for slink
I upgraded to the newest slink X packets (the x*3.3.2.3a-6 set) which I found to be horribly broken (they can't find fonts, locales are broken etc) in my experience. Where can I find the good old working packages? -- /Tommi K/ QOTD: "Her other car is a broom."
Re: Safe rm available?
"Kendall P. Bullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is a fallacy. (Or maybe Unix geeks aren't as smart as DOS > geeks?) I set up something of my own and am no more nor less likely > to delete the wrong file. Despite DOS's undelete, Norton's unerase, > Novell's salvage, and my own version under Linux -- I haven't shot > myself in the foot in eons. I haven't even had to go to my .trash > directory in a long time. I only go there occasionally to clean it > out. Some other people may shoot themselves in the foot if they don't learn that rm is in most Unix/Linux systems a powerful and unforgiving beast that does its work irreversibly. Thinking that rm is kinder and gentler than it is may lead to carelessness in deleting files. -- /Tommi K/ The truth is out there: http://members.aol.com/tprice1995/birdy.html
Re: NeXT Step-alike gui development tool
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) wrote: > > > > > NeXT Step has lots of cool features, however one of my favorites is the > > > gui development environment, which uses objective C with drag n drop > > > "objects". I think it is called "package builder"(?). Does anyone > > > know if there is a gui development environment like this for Linux? > > I'll give kde and gnome a try after gnustep, because I hear they're not > very mature yet, as you also mentioned. I didn't know any of these had > a gui development environment, so thanks for all the suggestions! Oops, I seemed to have read your original post sloppily. I thought you meant by gui dev. environment a set of gui libraries. So, I think their gui dev. environment is your text editor of choice. I'm sorry if I had you downloading stuff you wouldn't have wanted to. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NeXT Step-alike gui development tool
Tommi Kaariainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: > > > NeXT Step has lots of cool features, however one of my favorites is the > > gui development environment, which uses objective C with drag n drop > > "objects". I think it is called "package builder"(?). Does anyone > > know if there is a gui development environment like this for Linux? > > There's a OpenStep clone/implementation in development, GNUstep > http://www.gnustep.org>. Then there are Gnome > http://www.gnome.org/> and KDE http://kde.org/>. > All of them have been deb-packaged. I flame myself for not mentioning that all three are in development, not "ready". /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NeXT Step-alike gui development tool
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes: > NeXT Step has lots of cool features, however one of my favorites is the > gui development environment, which uses objective C with drag n drop > "objects". I think it is called "package builder"(?). Does anyone > know if there is a gui development environment like this for Linux? There's a OpenStep clone/implementation in development, GNUstep http://www.gnustep.org>. Then there are Gnome http://www.gnome.org/> and KDE http://kde.org/>. All of them have been deb-packaged. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I am leaving Debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > There was some question on this list yesterday regarding whether I would > leave Debian. It is indeed true. I will remain as president of SPI and > will redirect SPI's mission to be for all free software rather than just > for Debian. I'm sorry it had to be this way, but I feel that my mission to > bring free software to the masses really isn't compatible with Debian any > longer, and that I should be working with one of the more mainstream Linux > distributions. I'd like to know what will happen to the Debian trademark and the logo as well as the hardware and other (non-human)resources Debian Project currently has? Will they remain with Debian? In any case I'd like thank you and the others for the good work (creating a system that works) you've done. Regards, /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to the ps POSIX options
Tommi Kaariainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I updated procps (+ other stuff) to the newest version(s) in the Debian > mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out that the (much more useful) > POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why were they removed? > > /Tommi Kääriäinen/ Aargh, this is not what I meant to write. What I was thinking goes like this: I updated procps (+ other stuff) in my system (running hamm) to the newest version(s) _from_ the Debian mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out that the (much more useful) POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why were they removed? /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What happened to the ps POSIX options
I updated procps (+ other stuff) to the newest version(s) in the Debian mirror I use (sunsite.auc.dk) and found out that the (much more useful) POSIX-style ps options no longer work. Why were they removed? /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installation Question (IBM TP 560)
David Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 26 Jan 1998 00:06:17 +0200 Tommi Kaariainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > >"David E. Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >The sequence of events in my machine is like this: > > > >1. The Master Boot Record (modified by OS/2 Boot Manager) of the hard disk > > is read and executed. > >2. The MBR starts Boot Manager > >3. The user tells the Boot Manager to boot from the Linux partition. > >4. The Boot Manager starts LILO boot loader on the boot block of > > the Linux partition. > >5. LILO starts Linux > > So can you use (easily) LILO to manage your whole system with 3+ different > OSs? > That is what I will want to do with it, soon. Some OSs (Linux, DOS, W95(at least without FAT32), maybe others) can be loaded by LILO, and on the other hand LILO (and thus Linux) can be loaded by OS/2 Boot Manager (it works for me), NT-loader (according to Linux+NT-Loader-mini-HOWTO) and some others. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installation Question (IBM TP 560)
"David E. Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's really interesting: putting LILO in the boot block of the Linux > root partition. I understood that LILO would allow you to boot into > various partitions, like the IBM Boot Manager does. > When I was in IBM Systems Programming, it was useful to follow the > sequence of events from the label record to the Volume Table of Contents > (VTOC) and from there into the specific file you're looking for. Perhaps > it would be useful to clarify the sequence of events here. According to > the Partition Magic documentation, there is a Master Boot Record at the > beginning of the drive which consists of a master boot program and > partition table. Then for each bootable partition there is a partition > boot record as well. So if I install the IBM Boot Manager in its own > partition at the top of the drive, then it would seem logical that the > system would first go to the first sector on the drive, find out there > is a boot manager partition and go there, display the menu selection and > then after input go to the selected partition where it presumably finds > a partition boot record which presumably tells it where the first > program is for loading that operating system. LILO can be installed to override the Boot Manager (if it's installed on the MBR), but it can also be installed to be started by something other (when installed on the boot block of the Linux partition). The sequence of events in my machine is like this: 1. The Master Boot Record (modified by OS/2 Boot Manager) of the hard disk is read and executed. 2. The MBR starts Boot Manager 3. The user tells the Boot Manager to boot from the Linux partition. 4. The Boot Manager starts LILO boot loader on the boot block of the Linux partition. 5. LILO starts Linux /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installation Question (IBM TP 560)
"David E. Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tommi, > My system initially was a Win95B system using FAT32 for the full 5 gig > drive. I bought Powerquest Partition Magic to resize the FAT32 partition > down so that I could put an msdos partition (800M) and a 1.5G extended > partition containing both the Linux partition and swap partitions). > Partition Magic comes with "IBM's Boot Manager" which I installed as the > fourth primary partition at the top of the 5gig drive so I could select > between Win 95, Linux, and I also wanted to be able to boot to the msdos > partition to run the Win 3.1 system from my previous computer. > > To your knowledge, is the Boot Manager referred to here one and the > same as the Boot Manager you're using? I don't know, however as far as I know putting the Linux Loader (lilo) to the boot block of the Linux root partition (the logical partition i this case) shouldn't break anything. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installation Question (IBM TP 560)
"David E. Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Justin, > I hope you get an answer to your question: I've been battling for > several weeks to get a Linux partition up that will boot when the IBM > boot manager is used to select the linux partition, but with Debian, I > get the same result you report. > I've been able to install RedHat without any problems unless I tell it > to write the MBR. > Big mistake: after that, I could not boot my first partition - my > Win95B/fat32 partition. My local linux guru located an undocumented DOS > fdisk switch (fdisk /mbr) that cleared the problem, saving me having to > reformat and reinstall all my Win95 software. > I've been real unwilling to mess with the linux stuff since then. I've used the OS/2 Warp 3.0 Boot Manager with Debian for over a year now. The trick is to put the linux loader to the boot block of the Linux root partition by putting the command boot=/dev/hdNUMBER where /dev/hdNUMBER is your the aforementioned root partition in the file /etc/lilo.conf and running lilo. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Remote X-term
Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If the sun station is running a sshd daemon you could start a remote session > with e.g.: > > [linux]$ xterm -title Your_University -e ssh \ > -l YourUsername sunstation.at.college.edu > > In this new xtern you can start every X app and the very smart ssh displays it > on your Linux maschine. Nice test would be: > > [sunstation]$ xmessage "I am not here but there" One further benefit of ssh is that it can compress the connection (with command line switch -C), and thus makes X over slow connection faster. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: About incoming packages
Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The debian incoming directory is mirrored at > ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/Incoming/ Thank you. /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
About incoming packages
Ther has been some dicussion about psmisc being stuck in incoming in the master server. Is there way for a non-developer (especially for one who wants to be on the bleeding edge and thinks he know the risks) and to download packages that are in incoming, or is it so that if you have to ask you shouldn't need to know? Regards, /Tommi Kääriäinen/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Upgrade to libc6...
"Michael Legart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > Just wondering how to uprade to libc6? Do I just install the libc6 package, > or do I have to reinstall my hole system? ... Well, something in between, installing a couple of other packages in addition libc6 is highly recommendable/necessary. There are instructions to upgrade libc6 safely in the "Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO". You can find it in: http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html -- /Tommi/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trouble with Xwindows
Harald Helfgott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all, > > I have just installed Linux on my Cyrix 200-based computer with > an S3 Trio64V+ card. XF86Setup runs smoothly. Unfortunately, when > I run startx, I receive the error message: > > X: exec of /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_NONE failed > I seems you have somehow failed to specify which X-server to run. Change in files /etc/X11/Xserver and /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers the name of the X-server from /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_NONE to /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3 to make things work. Tommi -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Permissions of VC-ttys
What are the correct permissions and attributes for /dev/tty8, /dev/tty9, ... /dev/tty63 (the virtual console ttys) if the said tty has no getty and I intend to use them for additional X-sessions and for running other programs on them using the "open" program. Thanks in advance, Tommi -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
VC problems
I tried to create more ttys for virtual consoles (/dev/tty9, /dev/tty10 ...) the other day with /dev/MAKEDEV. In the process of doing this and experimenting with open I managed to make a mess of my system. The command "startx" no longer works when run as a normal user. XDM and startx as root work, so I think the problem is with tty permissions. The startx thing isn't very crucial as I prefer XDM but still I'd like to know how to make startx and things such as open zsh (to get shell in a new VC) or open abuse.console (to vent my frustrations) work correctly without being logged in as root. What are the correct permissions, owner, group and other attributes for virtual console ttys with no getty if I want use them as a normal user with "open" command e.g. "open zsh" or "open abuse.console" and for startx? My hardware is a 486 with Quadtel/ASI Trident 9400Cxi VLB display adapter and I'm running hamm (nearly the newest packages) with kernel 2.0.32. Thanks in advance, TTK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .