please help test 2.7 pre-release (in VCS)
Hi, I've fixed 2 bugs in VCS: * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=670687 * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667068 I would like to release this perhaps this time tomorrow. Would you mind testing the 3 commands: NEW, DETAILNEW, and DESCRIBENEW commands. Otherwise, just use as usual and see if there's anything else that can be fixed before release. Me hopes this version becomes part of Wheezy (unless they change the rules). For instructions, run 'wajig readme wajig'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe08bb8.3070...@gmail.com
Re: please help test 2.7 pre-release (in VCS)
On 19/06/2012 16:24, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I've fixed 2 bugs in VCS: * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=670687 * http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667068 I would like to release this perhaps this time tomorrow. Would you mind testing the 3 commands: NEW, DETAILNEW, and DESCRIBENEW commands. Otherwise, just use as usual and see if there's anything else that can be fixed before release. Me hopes this version becomes part of Wheezy (unless they change the rules). For instructions, run 'wajig readme wajig'. Forgive me, I should have included 'wajig' in the title; one of the dangers of cross-posting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe09354.9020...@gmail.com
please test wajig in VCS
Hi, Can anyone here using wajig test the version in VCS. If you find issues, please report back at wa...@googlegroups.com. setup: $ wajig install devscripts $ hg clone https://wajig.googlecode.com/hg $ cd wajig build + install: $ debuild -us -uc -b $ sudo debi I want to make sure it's solid before having it uploaded as 2.5. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caa77j2domkohkxpsms6vev6+2hvmgny+jmhcwe9gzgpevoq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to stop receiving xorg-related mails
I get just the bug reports for xterm and xserver-xorg. I used to be subscribed to debian-x, and have now stopped the receiving the mails since unsubscription. I've unsubscribed from both xorg and xterm from the PTS, but am still getting these bug reports. I looked at BTS info, and it appears there's not way to subscribe to bug reports for the whole package (just individual bug reports). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307567792.5841.6.camel@debian
How to stop receiving xorg-related mails
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Re: another favourite FLOSS poll
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 16:32, green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote at 2011-04-04 05:39 -0500: I've asked for removal, due to inactivity. On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 00:06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: Depending on response, I may come back here and report how the vote goes before year-end. There wasn't enough participation to make reporting worthy. Yeah, I was surprised at the lack of interest in it. I guess a poll on this list works better. Actually, I think it's because a poll here is more in-ur-face, so ppl can't avoid it (so many messages). The link OTOH was posted just once, so ppl even forgot about it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikof6uwsvazzzxa+nyeqfxovjf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: another favourite FLOSS poll
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 00:06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Although I often enjoyed the process of doing the yearly polls, it was rather time-consuming, I decided to do this on a Shapado instance (http://favourite-floss.shapado.com/). Please head over there and cast your vote, while taking note of the FAQ. Changes: * It won't be a yearly poll, but will sit there 'permanently'. I've asked for removal, due to inactivity. * It's not limited only to Debian users, as was previously the case. Depending on response, I may come back here and report how the vote goes before year-end. There wasn't enough participation to make reporting worthy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktin+vdbebag0srb7v0fv3fs57le...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Missing files in home-directory
Ummm... he deleted them? On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 18:22, Matthias Andersson matthias.anders...@pp1.inet.fi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! My dad called me yesterday regarding a problem on his machine running Debian Lenny. He said he had installed the updates sometime last week and noticed that all of his files (.pdf, music and photos) went missing from his home-directory. I had him burn debian livecd and check the drives with gparted and that did not result in any errors. What could be the problem? Cheers, Matthias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNPFXCAAoJEDF8u+ZDBCZ5GQwIAKjS8RqWES62kf3zVUA2br+i 1HCRkTVaNOKfaWtTFISVoHF0fbm1FPr7OLpmuMvY1gP3n5eB4Y+kJKbitlGO8zLi QrAQ8V8bQHRbI+/Hm1B5ecvQEiT+TWVsa2CAv4QRdZQImVtKUMtcPPVeoN29l22l qG11VwOzBjPc/nvJJfH0iCM+w7y4jxJyUqWggnGQMZGsUGrbo8ENAALkNWGlzUkY GiRKhC/wc1dl7idAlWupBGZsP+eUtjnJtROZHVpKHG8YcZEsVJp9x0mflga1bEWh DovKpVSPmN7cviUUmg9doA0lXSfi5rcU0vlTb+wyq+EIKzReaFbqroQ7evH2YLM= =WUi1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3c55c3.1040...@pp1.inet.fi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=dEc8hSSw=pvQFSih=12cEJpWdHeUC-7QaMi=z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Basic questions about Debian package tools
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 16:11, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: On 10 Jan 2011, Jochen Schulz wrote: pt3...@gmail.com: Is it true I should avoid APT and use some other frontend or, better, dpkg directly? Never use dpkg directly if you don't have to. Apt-get and aptitude are both good frontends with similar capabilities. Which one you use is mostly a question of personal preference. Only when doing distribution upgrades (like from lenny to squeeze) you should read the release notes and use the tool that it suggests. I'd vote for wajig myself. me too ;-) It's got quite a lot of functionality, some of it nifty, EG wajig --backup upgrade actually saves the packages to be upgraded locally, in case something breaks, you cal revert. run wajig commands and see for yourself run wajig help install for a summary of what INSTALL command does, and available options Note that I'm here talking about the wajig version in Sid; one in Squeeze is quite outdated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=u=vyyrp1owzwauxvohj_-kkzej4xefuzrl...@mail.gmail.com
another favourite FLOSS poll
Hi, Although I often enjoyed the process of doing the yearly polls, it was rather time-consuming, I decided to do this on a Shapado instance (http://favourite-floss.shapado.com/). Please head over there and cast your vote, while taking note of the FAQ. Changes: * It won't be a yearly poll, but will sit there 'permanently'. * It's not limited only to Debian users, as was previously the case. Depending on response, I may come back here and report how the vote goes before year-end. Report back here (or privately) in case of trouble. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinip0bm4di8mqdt3kvoffikmxv+ycjh+z0px...@mail.gmail.com
Re: heads-up: me considering to run another favourite FLOSS poll
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:29, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So I've been running this poll for a few years now, and am considering doing it yet again. Don't hesitate to reply if you have suggestions. I've asked for a better way to do this: http://ask.debian.net/questions/please-allow-me-to-run-a-temporary-poll-here. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimn3jhkdc6mxgm3q6onwrowge90x0sl5x-b9...@mail.gmail.com
heads-up: me considering to run another favourite FLOSS poll
Hi, So I've been running this poll for a few years now, and am considering doing it yet again. Don't hesitate to reply if you have suggestions. Here's a list of older results: http://tshepang.tumblr.com/post/654031894. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim_thx7aqjfozitazysvga8onbtqwemj4tap...@mail.gmail.com
Re: question/answer website for user support: shapado.debian.net
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:31, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:24, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Dear followers of the -user mailing list, you might be interesting in knowing that since yesterday there's a new Debian experiment ongoing in the area of user support: http://shapado.debian.net/ which is a multi-language question/answer website where participants can ask questions, answer questions, and rank answers given by others. I'm When reading this, I thought the reason you were not instead promoting unix.stackexchange.com was because it's a non-free web service. But visitng http://shapado.debian.net/ indicated that they both use the same engine. Ubuntu folk decided to do the same thing with http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/, and there were similar complaints about such factionalism. Seriously, much of how Debian works is how other Unix-like systems work, and it happens for example, that some useful info is lost because of this needless replication. Here's a good example of my point: * http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/767/what-is-the-real-difference-between-apt-get-and-aptitude-how-about-wajig * http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/4719/what-are-benefits-of-aptitude-compared-to-apt-get * http://shapado.debian.net/questions/the-debian-administration-recommanded-program-apt-or-aptitude You will notice that this is basically the same question. Now, what are good reasons for having a Debian-only StackOverflow clone? I'd understand if the clone was non-free, but even then, all data is released under Creative Commons. I was embarassed to learn that the tech is FLOSS: http://shapado.com/questions/how-does-shapado-compare-to-stackexchange. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiku1mxy4-fq0mhabuxbbhis5hd=if-niev9p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: question/answer website for user support: shapado.debian.net
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:24, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Dear followers of the -user mailing list, you might be interesting in knowing that since yesterday there's a new Debian experiment ongoing in the area of user support: http://shapado.debian.net/ which is a multi-language question/answer website where participants can ask questions, answer questions, and rank answers given by others. I'm When reading this, I thought the reason you were not instead promoting unix.stackexchange.com was because it's a non-free web service. But visitng http://shapado.debian.net/ indicated that they both use the same engine. Ubuntu folk decided to do the same thing with http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/, and there were similar complaints about such factionalism. Seriously, much of how Debian works is how other Unix-like systems work, and it happens for example, that some useful info is lost because of this needless replication. Here's a good example of my point: * http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/767/what-is-the-real-difference-between-apt-get-and-aptitude-how-about-wajig * http://ubuntu.stackexchange.com/questions/4719/what-are-benefits-of-aptitude-compared-to-apt-get * http://shapado.debian.net/questions/the-debian-administration-recommanded-program-apt-or-aptitude You will notice that this is basically the same question. Now, what are good reasons for having a Debian-only StackOverflow clone? I'd understand if the clone was non-free, but even then, all data is released under Creative Commons. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin8s5wx+ao1-ydjfb4ekcs5xa2gfteji2dd3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: LibreOffice repositories
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 22:29, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 05:56:36PM +0100, AG wrote: Hey list As many here are probably already aware, due to Oracle buying out Sun, the OOo developer community has forked the project as a pre-emptive protection against Oracle doing the same thing to OOo as they did to OpenSolaris. I don't get the purpose / big fuss about LibreOffice. Isn't this what go-oo.org has been doing for years? There's some explanation here: http://liorkaplan.wordpress.com/2010/09/28/welcome-the-document-foundation-and-libreoffice/ -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikykeubmp1hrvsszmg7p5n8rrd=rd2qhobvg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problems Installing Pacemaker and Heartbeat in Lenny
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 18:01, Chen Stormstout chenstor...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the tip, but didn't work.
I've already done the upgrade before try to install.
These are the results of your sugestion:
#aptitude safe-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
# aptitude full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
# aptitude -t lenny-backports install heartbeat pacemaker
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
cluster-glue pacemaker
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cluster-agents{a} heartbeat libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
Need to get 2277kB/2928kB of archives. After unpacking 9523kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
heartbeat [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]
Score is -19794
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
*** No more solutions available ***
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
heartbeat [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]
Score is -19794
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
*** No more solutions available ***
Any other suggestion?
Please file bug reports with severity 'grave' on cluster-glue and
pacemaker. That way, they are more likely to receive attention. Ensure
you got reportbug installed, and do:
$ reportbug pacemaker
$ reportbug cluster-glue
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Re: how to display duplicates between 2 repos
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 21:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:10:21 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I got 2 repos locally. One is a copy of Squeeze and another is one managed by repoupdate (and has stuff not available in Debian official repos, but also has stuff from Sid). Are there ready-made tools that would generate a list of duplicate packages between the two? I plan to use this list to reduce disc usage by removing them from the repoupdate-managed repo. Not sure if there is already a specific tool for Debian repos but fdupes could help (it's a generic tool to find duplicate files). Thanks for that. I also got the same reply elsewhere: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2377/how-to-display-duplicates-between-2-repos -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=mcyeerogg6w3u10ywwvhsmmffh8ooa_xnc...@mail.gmail.com
how to display duplicates between 2 repos
Hi, I got 2 repos locally. One is a copy of Squeeze and another is one managed by repoupdate (and has stuff not available in Debian official repos, but also has stuff from Sid). Are there ready-made tools that would generate a list of duplicate packages between the two? I plan to use this list to reduce disc usage by removing them from the repoupdate-managed repo. -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin+2wj6-vwerbh4plkxg5jms3yob3e9fs+9g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problems Installing Pacemaker and Heartbeat in Lenny
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 14:30, Chen Stormstout chenstor...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
There is any problem with cluster stack in debian lenny?
I'm trying to install but receive the errors above. I've posted this issue in
pacemaker list too, but with no answers.
This is my entire sources.list:
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1
20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1
20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
# For the cluster
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main contrib
non-free
#deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
I've tried to use backports.debian.org and www.backports.org/debian, both
with the same error message:
aptitude -t lenny-backports install heartbeat pacemaker
But still have the same error:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
cluster-glue pacemaker
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cluster-agents{a} heartbeat libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
Need to get 2277kB/2928kB of archives. After unpacking 9523kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
heartbeat [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]
Score is -19794
The same for corosync:
aptitude install -t lenny-backports pacemaker corosync
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
cluster-glue pacemaker
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cluster-agents{a} corosync libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
Need to get 2235kB/2886kB of archives. After unpacking 9351kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]
Score is -9863
There is a problem with the packages or i'm doing something wrong?
Forgive my bad english.
Thank You.
Chen.
Before you do this, can you run aptitude safe-upgrade, which should
be safe given that you are running Lenny. After that, if there are
still packages that are not upgraded, run aptitude full-upgrade, and
proceed while ensuring that you don't get stuff you care about getting
deleted.
After all this, then you can try installing the 3: heartbeat,
pacemaker, and corosync. If you still get the same, when aptitude asks
if you happy with its Suggestions, say no. It will continue offering
Suggestions until you either say Yes, quit, or until it doesn't know
how to resolve the situation. Read what it displays well. It is simple
to understand.
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warning regarding an upcoming wajig upload
Hi, I am current active developer of wajig and version 2.0.49 is going to change some of its behavior, so have a look at http://code.google.com/p/wajig/source/browse/debian/changelog to see if your scripts/usage habits are going to need some changing. sidenotes: * Dont hesitate to report defects (especially on new functionality) and feature requests: $ reportbug wajig. * Feel free to follow the mercurial version (easy instructions are on README), but at your risk of course :-) -- blog: http://tshepang.tumblr.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimpjecu+ox8rl6im44vwa2r20fqch4cfdth-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:18, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: sidenote: this year has had probably the worst participation since I've started this poll in 2005 :-( I noticed that as well. Kinda sad. Any thoughts as to why? my .02 is that the list doesn't seem to have quite the breadth of traffic it has had before. But that's a cursory observation at best. My guess would be the popularity of Ubuntu. Much of the pie went there. As Ubuntu is Debian-derived, how about doing the poll there as well? I actually once did, but am sure I'll be swamped if I try now - Ubuntu is massive! It would be nice though to compare the response (favourites) from both camps. I'll limit myself to Debian for now; maybe next year :-( Dotan ran the poll at ubuntu-user and I was surprised that the response didn't seem any better (unless Dotan has received a number of private replies, which I did). If so, I suppose then that hoards of *buntu users prefer the forums. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
hi, thanks for ur votes; unfortunately I had already posted the results since the weren't votes for about 4 days On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16, Anthony Campbella...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: On 05 Nov 2009, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites If something doesn't fit in any of the categories, put it under misc utilities. Please don't add what you haven't really used. You can include more than one entrant per category. desktop environment OR window manager: Icewm e-mail client: Mutt file manager: mc ftp client: sitecopy games: crafty image creator/editor: imagemagic, gimp image viewer: feh, gqview misc utilities: aumix, shorewall, get_iplayer, xsane, tesseract-ocr, magicfilter package manager: wajig pdf/ps-reader: xpdf spreadsheet: gnumeric terminal emulator: xterm text editor: vim video player: mplayer, vlc web browser: iceweasel, dillo word-processor: abiword, open-office SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): vim any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): Debian any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): Bram Moolenaar -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 03:31, Tim Tebbittteb...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I noticed that as well. Kinda sad. Any thoughts as to why? my .02 is that the list doesn't seem to have quite the breadth of traffic it has had before. But that's a cursory observation at best. This seem to back that up. http://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png Thanks for the link. Did you however notice that membership is at an all-time high? Good sign according to me. I think the quality of questions are also rising (cursory observation) so maybe more newbies are running to Ubuntu. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:18, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: sidenote: this year has had probably the worst participation since I've started this poll in 2005 :-( I noticed that as well. Kinda sad. Any thoughts as to why? my .02 is that the list doesn't seem to have quite the breadth of traffic it has had before. But that's a cursory observation at best. My guess would be the popularity of Ubuntu. Much of the pie went there. As Ubuntu is Debian-derived, how about doing the poll there as well? I actually once did, but am sure I'll be swamped if I try now - Ubuntu is massive! It would be nice though to compare the response (favourites) from both camps. I'll limit myself to Debian for now; maybe next year :-( -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:17, Allengedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: desktop environment OR window manager: KDE, Gnome, LXDE, Window Maker, Enlightenment, FVWM, FVWM2, FVWM Crystal (Yes, I do in fact use every one of those, all the time. I like having options on how my desktop will behave at any given time, and sometimes I want one that looks different like FVWM or WindowMaker.) am sure am not the only one curious how you juggle all this diversity e-mail client: GUI Based; Kmail, Novell, Sylpheed, Balsa when it used to work with comcast was awesome. Text Based; Mutt file manager: Konqueror, hatever Gnome uses nowThe one from Enlightenment. ftp client: GFTP hands down. I use it all the time games: dungeoncrawl And basically every FPS from id (DooM, DooM2, Final DooM, DooM3, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Quake 4) and The UT games. so u've played all these! image creator/editor: Gimp image viewer: kuickshow misc utilities: XMMS, zsh, Perl, Python, rxvt, Bunzip2, 7zip... package manager: Yast2, APT, PKGTOOL, Swaret I guess nice one that you mention Yast2. You still using SuSE (or derivative)? pdf/ps-reader: No clue EG Evince, xpdf... terminal emulator: Eterm, Wterm, Xterm, Aterm, Konsole text editor: Emacs and Vi video player: Xine web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey Opera and Netscape should have gone to non-free word-processor: ABIword SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): LMMS! Sure would be nice if Opera and Seamonkey could be installed from apt-get ;) Iceape is Debian's unbranded version, though it currently is available only from Etch and Sid: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceape -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:25, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I actually once did, but am sure I'll be swamped if I try now - Ubuntu is massive! It would be nice though to compare the response (favourites) from both camps. I'll limit myself to Debian for now; maybe next year :-( Would you like me to do it? I am rather active on the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists. I have no problem taking responsibility for those lists every year, and you keep up the good work with Debian. What do you say? magnificent! when u going to start it? I'm going to re-subscribe right now just for the poll! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 13:59, Allengedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: On Tuesday 17 November 2009 06:31:33 am Avi Greenbury wrote: Allen gedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: And YAST2 is probably the best system tool ever done. Hmm, Yast made me want to hurt small things the last (and first) time I used it. I'm increasingly wondering that this might have been a fault at my end, since a lot of people seem to like it now. Has it improved drastically over the past six or so years? Well, the first time I saw Yast2 was in SUSE Linux 8.1 Professional. It was good but it did have a few things that didn't seem to be what it should have been, and since I was buddies with Marcus Meissner, I told him. He's the head of SUSE Security, and when 8.2 Professional came out, I bought it right away, backed up everything, and did a fresh install. See the only machine I had at the time was the one that is now my server, a little Pentium 3 733 MHz processor with 384 MBs RAM, and I didn't have anything else. But it worked REALLY well on it. All the things in Yast2 seemed fixed in 8.2 Professional, and I really liked it. I had uptime of 205 days on that release, and this is consodering that I did EVERYTHING on that machine. Imagine that old hardware being used daily as a desktop, having SSH, FTP, and Web services running for friends, and like 4 email clients loaded all at once, and firefox and Netscape all being loaded with like literally 12 tabs in each open, and then on top of that XMMS and Gaim and, well, let's just say I had KDE with 5 Virtual Desktops, and all of them were LOADED with stuff because I did a lot with that machine. All the while a movie was playing, and no lag, and 205 days of uptime. I still remember when a Kernel update had broken my Nvidia driver and Marcus went back to the office to fix it and released a new one for me. Yast2 was REALLY nice. Even now, the new versions are nicely made, and the thing has that ability to show you what it's doing. Like Mandriva for example, if you set up a Firewall, it doesn't show you what commands it ran to do it, but Yast2 does. you can see exactly what IPTables it typed out for you. And of course Novell GPLd it. That's some serious promotion, among the best I've ever seen. That's the definition of rock-solid! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
Hi, Following is the results of a poll that has been running for over a week, one which questions readers of debian-user to list their favourite FLOSS - Free (Libre) or Open Source Software. There's the usual stars in the form of Firefox/Iceweasel, GIMP, aptitude, and OpenOffice.org's word processor. There still isn't competition for the audio editor, Audacity and there's the usual category killers in the form of K3b (disc burner), Pidgin (instant messenger), and MPlayer (movie player). KTorrent also got quite a following while Okular (pdf reader) looks like the hot new kid on the block. One other thing, which is biased considering this is a Debian list, Debian wins again as the most respected community/organisation in the entire FLOSS landscape. Listed below is entries which received at least 3 votes; for anything else, please do search the archive. If specific entrants won before, I've listed the year(s) when. audio editor: audacity [2005-2008] x6 votes audio player: amarok [2005, 2007, 2008] x6 votes mplayer x3 rhythmbox x3 cd-ripper: abcde x4 DBMS: sqlite x3 postgresql x3 desktop environment OR window manager: KDE4 [2007] x5 GNOME [2005-2008] x4 development: emacs [2008] x3 disc burner: k3b [2005-2008] x8 wodim x5 e-mail client: mutt [2006-2008] x5 icedove/thunderbird [2005] x3 claws-mail x3 file manager: mc [2005, 2006] x6 bash x3 ftp client: mc, wget x3 games: wesnoth [2008] x3 image creator/editor: gimp [2005-2008] x11 inkscape x4 image viewer: gqview [2006] x3 gpicview x3 instant messenger: pidgin [2005-2008] x4 irssi x3 misc utilities: screen [2007, 2008] x3 p2p: ktorrent [2008] x7 package manager: aptitude 11 [2005-2008] apt 7 synaptic 3 pdf/ps-reader: okular, xpdf x6 evince [2006, 2007, 2008] x5 spreadsheet: OOo [2006-2008] x8 terminal emulator: gnome-terminal [2005, 2006] x3 xterm x3 text editor: emacs x7 vim [2006-2008] x5 video player: mplayer [2005-2008] x8 vlc x4 web browser: iceweasel/firefox [2005-2008] x12 word-processor: OOo [2006-2008] x12 emacs (latex) x3 non-free: skype [2008] x3 any organisation/community deserving great honours: Debian [2008] x11 GNU x4 FSF, Linux x3 sidenote: this year has had probably the worst participation since I've started this poll in 2005 :-( -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
desktop OR window manager: * GNOME development: * Geany, Python misc utilities: * grep, Sudo, debmirror, Lsof, less, Meld, Uptimed, wc, top, Tracker, Ex Falso, wajig, GNOME system monitor applet spreadsheet: * gnumeric terminal emulator: * GNOME Terminal text editor: * Geany non-free: * GMail * Blogger (@blogspot.com) any FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): * GNU toolchain (GCC, GLibC, Binutils), Linux, coreutils, Xorg, Apache, Mozilla (Firefox, etc.), GTK+ GLib, Qt, Latex, Perl, Python anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * HURD, APT2 anything dying/dead: * Coyotos + BitC + BitCC any organisation/community deserving great honours: * GNU, Debian, GNOME any FLOSS developer deserving great honours: * quite a few, but there's only one God, and that is Richard Stallman P.S. is this poll already dead?! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 13:48, Dotan Cohendotanco...@gmail.com wrote: instant messenger: skype (not floss? so make something this good in floss!) Surprising to find that there's no FLOSS competitor. I thought Skype was big on popularity, not features. What's missing in what you've tried? What comes close? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 15:04, Aioanei Raresdebian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote: non-free:flash :( Are you referring to the browser-plugin? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 18:42, Chrisrac...@makeworld.com wrote: web browser: Firefox (Not IceWeasel) am curious: what's wrong with Iceweasel? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 13:46, Frank Lin PIATfp...@klabs.be wrote: - Anonymous contributors can I liken this to one-time patch senders? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
heads-up for upcoming favourite FLOSS poll
Hi, For the past few years I've been running a favourite FLOSS poll and will do so this year too (real soon). You may check out the results for previous years, and comment with suggestions for improvement: 2008 results - http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/12/msg00031.html 2007 results - http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/12/msg00144.html 2006 results - http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/11/msg00305.html 2005 results - http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/11/msg03609.html P.S. I was negotiating whether or not to include the category any FLOSS developer deserving great honours since there's normally too many to mention, but on checking the replies, it's too interesting a category, and could very well be motivational to some under-appreciated devs out there. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Iceweasel address completion non-working?
Hi, I booted into Friday's Sid this morning to find that there's no address completion in Iceweasel and upgraded to latest Unstable, and still no pleasure. Where can I look? Last I checked, on Friday, there was no problem. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel address completion non-working?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I booted into Friday's Sid this morning to find that there's no address completion in Iceweasel and upgraded to latest Unstable, and still no pleasure. Where can I look? Last I checked, on Friday, there was no problem. I just logged in with another user and found this problem absent. Only I still don't know where to start. Preferences don't give me much. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel address completion non-working?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Matthew Smith m...@smiffytech.com wrote: Quoth Tshepang Lekhonkhobe at 2009-03-16 19:10... I booted into Friday's Sid this morning to find that there's no address completion in Iceweasel and upgraded to latest Unstable, and still no pleasure. Where can I look? Last I checked, on Friday, there was no problem. I just logged in with another user and found this problem absent. Only I still don't know where to start. Preferences don't give me much. If you don't get a satisfactory response from this list (or if you are in a hurry) I would suggest that you try Googling for the answer - but look not for Iceweasel but Firefox. I just tried this search: firefox address completion option ...and got what looked like likely answers. Thanks for the suggestions, but they didn't help. The problem looks a bit worse, since even my history seems lost (but still got entry autocompletion like my GMail login usernames and passwords intact). The navigation (bak and forward) buttons are also non-functional. I tried these through Iceweasel resets and no help. With a different profile, and same unix user, these problems are non-existent. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Iceweasel address completion non-working?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, but they didn't help. The problem looks a bit worse, since even my history seems lost (but still got entry autocompletion like my GMail login usernames and passwords intact). The navigation (bak and forward) buttons are also non-functional. I tried these through Iceweasel resets and no help. With a different profile, and same unix user, these problems are non-existent. I'd recommend moving your profile to another place and starting with a fresh one. Then try restoring your old items (bookmarks, etc) from the old copy, and then installing your extensions one by one. You may find the problem again, but at least you'll know who is the culprit. I did not know exactly how I was supposed to do what you advised, but I got rid of HOME/.mozilla/firefox/junk/*.sqlite files and am back on top, even though I lost my history. Thanks for your help... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: pbuilder trouble -- bingo!
For some reason, I only saw this mail now. Thanks much for the mouthful: On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 07:26:38PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: ... Running (c)debootstrap alone gives no problems so I don't know where to start diagnosing my problem. You are creating very special setting. I do not even know if you have /home/wena/live/ directory or your mirror site at http://localhost/sid works or not... I do not know permision of all these either. /home/wena/live exists and that mirror pretty well and was created using reprepro. When you have problem, do not assume thigs are in good shape. Are you sure to be mirror pretty well? reprepro being very new and experimental per its manpage. I do not know it is good choice. (Program should be fine but it may not document required options for novice users.) I'm on Sid. OK My first suggestion is to put system back to default. I stripped pbuilderrc to: MIRRORSITE=http://localhost/sid DEBOOTSTRAP=debootstrap [note that cdebootstrap won't work since I don't have Release.gpg and I don't know how to parse --allow-authenticated to it through pbuilder] ...and am still getting the error above Bingo! ... you have broken mirror for current sid repo. Having Release.gpg is needed for current secure APT to function. reprepro can support signiture per its package description. http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#toplevelreleasefeandauthenticity What's interesting is that both debootstrap and cdebootstrap --allow-unauthenticated work pretty well. Of course, you are disabling secure apt feature which uses Release.gpg. If you are thinking about reducing bandwidth usage by the local mirror, I think http proxy is better approach. Mirroring tends to waste more BW by downloading unused contents. http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#proxyserverforapt | Since mirroring whole subsection of Debian archive wastes disk space and | network bandwidth, deployment of a local proxy server for APT is | desirable consideration when you administer many systems on LAN. APT can | be configure to use web (http) proxy server such as squid (see Section | 7.5, Other network application servers) as described in apt.conf(5) | and in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz. The http_proxy | environment variable can be used to override proxy server setting in the | /etc/apt/apt.conf file. You may wish to learn basics of APT http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html Osamu -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kde Lenny testing
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Sonny Jordan sonnyr...@gmail.com wrote: Just want to say I have been slowly patiently waiting for the stable release of 'Lenny. I have been trying others for fun. I decided tonight to go ahead download the testing release of the KDE Lenny. I AM SO GLAD Y'ALL DID NOT USE THE STUPID PITIFUL 'PULSE AUDIO'.!! I can actually hear my music with debian! I can also record Streamtuner!! I know it is not nice to mention names so I will just use the first letter of other distros using Debian repos that really suck on the afore mentioned. I have tried U, K, UUE Mint(sorry) And only Mint Records But still cannot adjust volume to hear it good.. I haveused Debian since around 3. I love Debian! It is quick,Understandale, easy! The Debian install stinks though. No live CD. Takes about 20 min. to install. BUT it is worth it! How long does it normally take to install desktops of other distros? Love your KDE version so far! I hope it is on the stable release. To all the people working on Debian...THANK YOU for the pleasure of being able to use say that Debian is my desktop! Nice that you like Debian! -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: pbuilder trouble
anyone who can help with this? On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble getting pbuilder create run with the following error: START [...] I: Configuring initscripts... I: Configuring sysvinit... I: Unpacking the base system... W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. pbuilder: debootstrap failed - Aborting with an error - cleaning the build env - removing directory /home/wena/live/pbuilder/build//25743 and its subdirectories END My /etc/pbuilerrc looks thus: START MIRRORSITE=http://localhost/sid DEBOOTSTRAP=debootstrap BUILDPLACE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/build/ BASETGZ=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/base.tgz BUILDRESULT=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/result/ APTCACHE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/aptcache END Running (c)debootstrap alone gives no problems so I don't know where to start diagnosing my problem. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: pbuilder trouble
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:34:42AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble getting pbuilder create run with the following error: ... My /etc/pbuilerrc looks thus: START MIRRORSITE=http://localhost/sid DEBOOTSTRAP=debootstrap BUILDPLACE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/build/ BASETGZ=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/base.tgz BUILDRESULT=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/result/ APTCACHE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/aptcache END Running (c)debootstrap alone gives no problems so I don't know where to start diagnosing my problem. You are creating very special setting. I do not even know if you have /home/wena/live/ directory or your mirror site at http://localhost/sid works or not... I do not know permision of all these either. /home/wena/live exists and that mirror pretty well and was created using reprepro. Also you did not say what distribution sid/lenny/etch/... using... I'm on Sid. My first suggestion is to put system back to default. I stripped pbuilderrc to: MIRRORSITE=http://localhost/sid DEBOOTSTRAP=debootstrap [note that cdebootstrap won't work since I don't have Release.gpg and I don't know how to parse --allow-authenticated to it through pbuilder] ...and am still getting the error above What's interesting is that both debootstrap and cdebootstrap --allow-unauthenticated work pretty well. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
pbuilder trouble
Hi, I'm having trouble getting pbuilder create run with the following error: START [...] I: Configuring initscripts... I: Configuring sysvinit... I: Unpacking the base system... W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. pbuilder: debootstrap failed - Aborting with an error - cleaning the build env - removing directory /home/wena/live/pbuilder/build//25743 and its subdirectories END My /etc/pbuilerrc looks thus: START MIRRORSITE=http://localhost/sid DEBOOTSTRAP=debootstrap BUILDPLACE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/build/ BASETGZ=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/base.tgz BUILDRESULT=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/result/ APTCACHE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/aptcache END Running (c)debootstrap alone gives no problems so I don't know where to start diagnosing my problem. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: pbuilder trouble
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:34:42AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'm having trouble getting pbuilder create run with the following error: START [...] Are you sure you haven't snipped out any error message? pbuilder does get frustratingly quiet; it's --debug option doesn't spit anything that helps me I: Configuring initscripts... I: Configuring sysvinit... I: Unpacking the base system... W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. pbuilder: debootstrap failed - Aborting with an error - cleaning the build env - removing directory /home/wena/live/pbuilder/build//25743 and its subdirectories END My /etc/pbuilerrc looks thus: START MIRRORSITE=http://localhost/sid DEBOOTSTRAP=debootstrap BUILDPLACE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/build/ BASETGZ=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/base.tgz BUILDRESULT=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/result/ APTCACHE=/home/wena/live/pbuilder/aptcache END -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: trouble with my repo?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe tshep...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I ran the following command, debootstrap sid temp http://localhost/sid; which aborts on the following problem: start I: Unpacking wget... I: Unpacking whiptail... W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. end when chrooting into environment, and issueing apt-get install, I see a whole lot of locales warnings: start Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 77 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en_ZA.UTF-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) Setting up libbz2-1.0 (1.0.5-1) ... [...] end Where can the problem be? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com The problem was revealed by applying the verbosity option to cdeboostrap which revealed some conflict trouble with rsyslog with old syslogd. Running the following fixed my problem: $ sudo cdebootstrap -v --allow-unauthenticated --exclude=rsyslog sid temp http://localhost/sid -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
trouble with my repo?
Hi I ran the following command, debootstrap sid temp http://localhost/sid; which aborts on the following problem: start I: Unpacking wget... I: Unpacking whiptail... W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. end when chrooting into environment, and issueing apt-get install, I see a whole lot of locales warnings: start Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 77 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = en_ZA.UTF-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) Setting up libbz2-1.0 (1.0.5-1) ... [...] end Where can the problem be? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: trouble with my repo?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-12-11 12:42 +0100, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi I ran the following command, debootstrap sid temp http://localhost/sid; which aborts on the following problem: start I: Unpacking wget... I: Unpacking whiptail... W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. end No more explicit error messages? That 'W' was the last. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building entire Lenny from source
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll also need to keep a repository of the packages you built. reprepro is nice for a small repo, but if you go for the whole Debian archive, the standard Debian one (dak) will probably serve you better. Thanks. I'll take a look... You certainly are a lifesaver: http://floss-and-misc.blogspot.com/2008/12/reprepro-saved-my-live.html -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building entire Lenny from source
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'd like to build the whole of Lenny from source and am looking for advice on the easiest tools to use. I looked at pbuilder and rebuildd and nearly had a headache. Are there tutorials out there? May I suggest Linux From Scratch? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ I still want the convenience of a binary system (IE Debian). See the other mails why I go the way of the source... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2008)
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Raj Kiran Grandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: What does x9 mean? To an American reader, it means multiply by 9, and that doesn't seem to make sense. I guess it is the number of votes received for that application. Sorry, for I took it for granted that it would be obvious... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2008)
Hi, Following is the results of a poll that has been running for about 2 weeks, one which questions readers of debian-user to list their favourite FLOSS - Free (Libre) or Open Source Software. There's the usual stars in the form of Firefox/Iceweasel and GIMP, as well as aptitude, and great growth being OpenOffice.org's word processor. Interestingly there wasn't as many votes for Acroread in the non-free category, perhaps because FLOSS alternatives are really gaining traction. There's also the usual category killers in the form of Audacity, K3b, and MPlayer. Listed below is entries which received at least 3 entries; for anything else, please do search the archive. In brackets is the years when specific entrants won (and this is since 2005). Here goes: audio editor: * Audacity x9 [2005 to 2007] audio player: * Amarok x9 [2005, 2007] * MOC x3 cd-ripper: * Sound Juicer x5 [2005, 2007] desktop OR window manager: * GNOME x9 [2005 to 2007] * KDE x8 [2007] * XFCE4 x6 DBMS: * MySQL x5 [2005 to 2007] development: * Emacs x5 * GCC x4 [2007] * Python x3 * Vim x3 disc burner: * K3b x14 [2005 to 2007] * wodim/cdrecord x6 * Brasero x4 e-mail client: * Mutt x10 [2006, 2007] * Thunderbird/Icedove x9 [2005] * Claws Mail x3 file manager: * Konqueror x8 [2007] * MC x5 [2005, 2006] * Nautilus x5 * Thunar x3 ftp client: * Konqueror x5 * lftp x4 * filezilla x3 * ftp x3 games: * Wesnoth x4 * Nethack x3 image creator/editor: * GIMP x19 [2005 to 2007] image viewer: * eog x6 * gThumb x3 [2005, 2006] instant messenger: * Pidgin x5 [2005 to 2007] * Kopete x4 misc utilities: * screen x6 [2007] * Git x5 * ssh (of OpenSSH) x3 p2p: * ktorrent x4 * deluge x3 * rtorrent x3 package manager: * Aptitude x16 [2005 to 2007] * APT x9 * dpkg x3 * Synaptic x3 pdf/ps-reader: * Evince x8 * Kpdf x7 * xpdf x6 [2006, 2007] * Okular x3 spreadsheet: * OOo-Calc x11 [2006, 2007] * Gnumeric x8 terminal emulator: * Konsole x7 [2007] * urxvt x5 * GNOME Terminal x4 [2005, 2006] text editor: * Vim x12 [2006, 2007] * Emacs x6 * gedit x4 * nano x5 * Kate x3 video player: * Mplayer x15 [2005 to 2007] * VLC x8 * Kaffeine x3 * xine x3 web browser: * Firefox/Iceweasel x21 [2005 to 2007] * Links2 x4 word-processor: * OOo-writer x20 [2006, 2007] * Abiword x6 * Latex x3 non-free: * Skype x4 * Opera x3 anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * Debian Lenny x4 anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): * Linux x4 any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): * Debian x9 any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): * Richard Stallman x4 * Linus Torvalds x4 For comparison, look at last year's results: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/12/msg00144.html Thanks for participating and sharing, for this may pretty well benefit others... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building entire Lenny from source
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Emanoil Kotsev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'd like to build the whole of Lenny from source and am looking for advice on the easiest tools to use. I looked at pbuilder and rebuildd and nearly had a headache. Are there tutorials out there? I would try gentoo. They have this concept behind. There's no OS but Debian :-) Seriously, I'm not yet willing to learn another OS especially that I love and am extremely comfortable with the mighty Debian... and I already got all Debian sources locally and that's gigabytes of downloads already and not cheap in this country of ours that is South Africa. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building entire Lenny from source
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any reason you don't follow-up on the list? That was not my intention... On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 03:17:35PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 06:49:06AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'd like to build the whole of Lenny from source and am looking for advice on the easiest tools to use. I looked at pbuilder and rebuildd and nearly had a headache. Are there tutorials out there? What is that for? Do you want to add a certain modification? Just for the kicks? Let's say it's for the kicks. I'd actually wish that you can elaborate a bit more here. Because you're not the only one rebuilding the whole Debian archive. And if this is not a simple rebuild, maybe different tools may help. It is a simple rebuild with not a single modification. Almost all my binaries are self-built but it's a laborious process so am really desperate for having it automated. It's nice to have the sources locally too, and it does save me bandwidth, as opposed to going the way of pristine Debian binaries. Will the newly-built packages be compatible with the existing ones? If not, you may need to think carefully about bootstrapping, and then start with a clean repository and only use it. Please explain a bit more here. Take a look at rebuildd . Why is this better than the competition (EG pbuilder)? pbuilder and sbuild are chroot-ed builders. They are intended to build a single package. You'll also need to keep a repository of the packages you built. reprepro is nice for a small repo, but if you go for the whole Debian archive, the standard Debian one (dak) will probably serve you better. Thanks. I'll take a look... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
I see the poll has cooled and in that case I'll post my own favourites. It's still open if you there's any late entries, and I will post the results early next week. Here goes: desktop OR window manager: * GNOME development: * Geany, Python, GTK2 misc utilities: * grep, Sudo, debmirror, Lsof, less, Meld, Uptimed, sort, wc, top, svn, Tracker, File Roller, rc-alert (from devscripts), Ex Falso, GNOME system monitor applet package manager: * Wajig spreadsheet: * Gnumeric terminal emulator: * GNOME Terminal text editor: * Scribes, nano non-free: * GMail * Blogger (@blogspot.com) any FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): * GNU toolchain (GCC, GLibC, Binutils), Linux, coreutils, Xorg, GTK+GLib, Qt, Apache, Latex, Perl, Python anything unreleased and highly anticipated: * HURD, Coyotos + BitC + BitCC any organisation/community deserving great honours: * GNU, Debian, GNOME, Fedora any FLOSS developer deserving great honours: * quite a few, but there's only one God, and that is Richard Stallman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
building entire Lenny from source
Hi, I'd like to build the whole of Lenny from source and am looking for advice on the easiest tools to use. I looked at pbuilder and rebuildd and nearly had a headache. Are there tutorials out there? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accessing wlan without non-free firmware?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-11-19 11:00 +0100, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I struggled to get 4965 wireless working on my TravelMate 6592, and succeeded only once having installed firmware-iwlwifi from non-free. Is there a way to achieve this without going the non-free route? Surely, buy a WLAN card that does not require non-free firmware. The Free Software Foundation has a list of them: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html. BTW, why exactly does the firmware bug you? Debian doesn't distribute such and that means folks installing from discs won't get their wireless working out-of-the-box. It makes it even harder if those don't have immediate connection to the wild web. Luckily for me I had Ubuntu installation disc handy, which managed to connect with that card, me supposing that they using the same firmware, only much more accessible (installed by default). -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accessing wlan without non-free firmware?
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Winfried Tilanus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/20/2008 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, Debian doesn't distribute such and that means folks installing from discs won't get their wireless working out-of-the-box It is distributed by Debian, you can find it in the non-free repository: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-iwlwifi You don't mind using it with ubuntu, so I guess you won't mind using from non-free. I already mentioned that I installed that deb file. Anyways, all I really wanted to know if there was another way of getting my card to work. I promise that's true... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
accessing wlan without non-free firmware?
Hi, I struggled to get 4965 wireless working on my TravelMate 6592, and succeeded only once having installed firmware-iwlwifi from non-free. Is there a way to achieve this without going the non-free route? Here's the relevant line from lspci -v: 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 1101 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 218 Memory at c800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: iwl4965 Kernel modules: iwl4965 -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HBM (ICH8M-E) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) 0a:04.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev 02) 0a:04.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 7175 (rev 21) 0a:04.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 01) 0a:04.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 01) 0a:05.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ601/6912/711E0 CardBus/SmartCardBus Controller (rev 40) 0a:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
what's your favourite FLOSS?
Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories. Please don't add what you haven't really used (like I used to). More than piece can be given per category. Oh, and there's a couple of nice editions to last year's categories: audio editor: audio player: cd-ripper: desktop OR window manager: DBMS: development: disc burner: e-mail client: file manager: finance: ftp client: games: image editor: image viewer: instant messenger: mathematics: misc utilities: p2p: package manager: pdf-reader: spreadsheet: tag editor: terminal emulator: text editor: video player: web browser: word-processor: non-free: SPECIAL CATEGORIES anything unreleased and highly anticipated: anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you insist): -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
heads-up for upcoming favourite FLOSS poll
Hi, For the past few years I've been running a favourite FLOSS poll and will do so this year too (real soon). Please check out the results for last year's, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/12/msg00144.html, and comment as you please, perhaps with suggesions for improvement. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine problems?
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Francesco Pietra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After having upgraded to lenny i386, the two applications I used with wine have problems. One (a chemical drawing package) does not start any more. The other one (a database) starts, though functionalities are greatly reduced and it hangs quite easily. Am alone having such problems? Do they depend from the wine version currently on i386 or from the deb packaging? I have purged-removed all wine and reinstalled; same problems. Any success yet? Have you tried removing ~/.wine and install that stuff from scratch? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: trans
forwarding to a correct mailing list -- Forwarded message -- From: nidhinrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:45 PM Subject: trans To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, where can I get simple hello translator ? please send me the link. regards nidhin -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS
On Dec 3, 2007 12:57 AM, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:36:08 +0200 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Tomboy. The most favourite non-free piece remains Adobe Acrobat, and one wonders when Evince and other free equivalents will catch up. http://www.linux.com/feature/122195 http://gnupdf.org/ Thanks for the links... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Before releasing the results, here's out my own favourites: desktop OR window manager: * GNOME development: * Python, GTK2 finance: * Gnumeric misc utilities: * grep, Sudo, debmirror, Lsof, less, Meld, Uptimed, sort, du, wc, top, svn, mencoder, Tracker, apt-show-source, APTonCD, File-roller package manager: * Wajig spreadsheet: * Gnumeric tag editor: * Ex Falso terminal emulator: * GNOME Terminal text editor: * Scribes web composer: * Iceape anything deservinggreat honours: * toolchain (GCC, GLibC, Binutils), Linux, Bash, coreutils, Xorg, GTK2, GLib, Qt, Apache, Perl, Python anything unreleased and anticipated: * HURD, Coyotos + BitC + BitCC -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS
Hi debian-user, Here is a summary of the mini-poll that I conducted recently on Debian-user: Firefox/Iceweasel and GIMP reign supreme for the third year running but are now joined by aptitude, each having 21 votes. I was surprised by Quod Libet receiving one vote but more surprising was F-Spot which also got just one and Tomboy receiving only 2 votes. The most surprising category is misc utilities because none of the 2005 and 2006 winners, sudo and grep received enough votes (three) to appear here. Nobody but me mentioned Tracker, while Beagle also got just a single vote. There was no mention of Banshee and only two votes for Tomboy. The most favourite non-free piece remains Adobe Acrobat, and one wonders when Evince and other free equivalents will catch up. I only show results which received at least 3 votes: audio editor: * Audacity (11) - 2005 and 2006 winner audio player: * Amarok (7) - 2005 winner * XMMS (5) - 2006 winner * Audacious (3) * VLC (3) cd-ripper: * Sound Juicer (4) - 2005 winner * Grip (3) - 2006 tie winner * cdparanoia (3) DBMS: * MySQL (8) - 2005 and 2006 winner * PostgreSQL (3) desktop environment OR window manager: * KDE (8), GNOME (8) - 2005 and 2006 winner * XFCE (7) * Fluxbox (5) development: * GCC (6) * Emacs (4) * Vim (3) * Bash (3) * Make (3) disc burner: * K3b (13) - 2005 and 2006 winner * cdrecord (4) e-mail client: * Mutt (8) - 2006 winner * Thunderbird (Icedove) (8) - 2005 winner * Evolution (3) file manager: * Konqueror (8) * MC (7) - 2005 and 2006 winner * Nautilus (5) * CLI (6) finance: * GnuCash (5) ftp client: * gFTP (8) - 2005 and 2006 winner * ftp (4) * wget (3) * MC (3) image editor: * GIMP (21) - 2005 and 2006 winner image viewer: * gThumb (6) -- 2005 winner * Kuickshow (4) * GQView (3) - 2006 winner instant messenger: * Gaim/Pidgin (12) - 2005 and 2006 winner mathematics: * Octave (4) - 2005 and 2006 tie winner * bc (4) - 2006 tie winner * dc (3) misc utilities: * screen (5) * ssh, svn (3) news: * Pan, Slrn (4) p2p: * Azerus (4) package manager: * aptitude (21) - 2005 and 2006 winner * apt-get (9) pdf-reader: * Xpdf (9) - 2006 winner * KPDF (6) * Evince (6) spreadsheet: * OOo Calc (12) - 2006 winner * Gnumeric (6) tag editor: * Amarok (2) terminal emulator: * Konsole (6) * GNOME Terminal (5) - 2005 and 2006 winner * xfce4-terminal (4) * xterm (3) * rxvt (3) text editor: * Vim (14) - 2006 winner * Emacs (7) * nano (3) video player: * MPlayer (15) - 2005 and 2006 winner * VLC (6) * gxine (5) * Kaffeine (3) web browser: * Firefox (Iceweasel) (21) - 2005 and 2006 winner * Konqueror (5) * lynx (4) * links (3) * w3m (3) word-processor: * OOo Write (11) - 2006 winner * AbiWord (4) * Emacs + Latex (3) * KWord (3) anything deserving great honours: * GCC (10) * Debian (4) * Linux (3) * Vim (3) * OpenSSH (3) non-free: * Acrobat Reader (9) - 2006 winner * GMail (5) Thanks for participating... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 16, 2007 11:41 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2007-11-14 15:28:32, schrieb Tshepang Lekhonkhobe: On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anything unreleased and anticipated: DFSG debian free software guidelines? I like it! Me not understand. DFSG exists already... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 14, 2007 10:09 PM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant I saw it listed under mathematics. I already saw someone who listed Python under mathematics, and maybe it's because she uses it as a calculator. What about you? Numerical analysis of various kinds - less so now since I have started using R, but its still a good way to understand the fundamental details of the calcs. involved in various techniques (at least to a pretty elementary level) and how to use some of the BOOST libs and TMP etc which can be useful in some cases. Thanks much... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 15, 2007 2:20 AM, M. Baldinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Interesting. Does this run on Debian, and if so, how? I tried it with gxmame frontend (I think now it's discontinued, because it's in Obsolete and Locally Created Packages, or perhaps it was from some unofficial .deb package, I don't remember). I didn't try it with recent and heavy games, as my favorite ones are some 80's games, but it worked quite well. Now I didn't run it for a long time and cannot load games for now because I moved some directory here and there :-), but the frontend starts up and apparently keeps working well. Here's the packages I installed on my lenny machine (gxmame obsoleted and quite old versions for the xmame-* ones, too): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep ^ii .*mame ii gxmame0.35beta2-1 GTK XMame frontend ii xmame-common 0.106-2 Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator ii xmame-extras 20050404-1Optional files used by xmame (cheat.dat etc) ii xmame-sdl 0.106-2 SDL binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine ii xmame-tools 0.106-2 Tools for xmame and xmess ii xmame-x 0.106-2 X binaries for the Multiple Arcade Machine E [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ As I imagined, they are all in non-free, except for gxmame which is in contrib. That was helpful, I was not aware that such goodness was available in Debian repos. Thanks... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: image editor: gaim mistake? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 13, 2007 1:52 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anything unreleased and anticipated: DFSG debian free software guidelines? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 10, 2007 11:30 PM, M. Baldinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: games: MAME (uhm, perhaps this is non-free in Debian sense so it should go below... - I don't remember.) Interesting. Does this run on Debian, and if so, how? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 11, 2007 2:05 AM, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you should, in the future, include a 'backup' category. That shouldn't have limited you since I asked that you may your own category. Anyways, it will only be valid if there's enough voters for such a category, and if not so it should just go under misc utilities. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 11, 2007 12:22 AM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathematics: R, g++, Octave g++? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 13, 2007 10:37 PM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 12:22 AM, Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mathematics: R, g++, Octave g++? yes, g++ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g++ -v Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c ++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/l ib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suff ix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --en able-mpfr --with-tune=i686 --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ I meant I saw it listed under mathematics. I already saw someone who listed Python under mathematics, and maybe it's because she uses it as a calculator. What about you? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 13, 2007 9:52 PM, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I agree with you and the others about the value of the poll. I like seeing what others, especially those who are much more experienced and knowledgeable than I, use and recommend. Thanks much... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 8, 2007 11:03 PM, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here here! Great to get participation from users! I would suggest that this poll and others be added to the debian-community.org site as a feature. That way you can just point to a URL and let a wider audience have a say. I was wondering where you were hidden. I still haven't seen your selection yet. Anyways, do you suggest that debian-community.org has greater visibility than the debian-user list. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 8, 2007 1:03 AM, John Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do not presume to psychoanalyse me. I see the Debian Users list as an invaluable source of information and advice, to which I attempt in my own small way to contribute. Posts requesting opinions as to which is the best software/hardware/distro inevitably invite flame wars which fill my inbox with dross. This is the third poll I've run, of course asking the same question of what's your favourite FLOSS, and I haven't ever seen a flame war incited by it. In fact I have found it pretty helpful since it tends to reveal various hidden gems. And by the way, popcon states which software is most installed (and does not exclude essential stuff like 'tzdata' which I'm sure many users don't care/know about), and that's a limitation. Doesn't that distinction make it worthy to run this poll? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 11:35 PM, Jabka Atu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: spreadsheet: * impress Did you mean OOo Calc or do you want this under another category. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 8, 2007 7:38 PM, John Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16:45 Thu 08 Nov , Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: This is the third poll I've run, of course asking the same question of what's your favourite FLOSS, and I haven't ever seen a flame war incited by it. In fact I have found it pretty helpful since it tends to reveal various hidden gems. And by the way, popcon states which software is most installed (and does not exclude essential stuff like 'tzdata' which I'm sure many users don't care/know about), and that's a limitation. Doesn't that distinction make it worthy to run this poll? Firstly I must apologise to any and all I offended with my post. In mitigation I plead age, failing memory and a bad day at work. I could have sworn that it was only about 3 months ago the last survey was posted; just checked the logs and it was last October. Doesn't time fly when you get older? Also at the same time there was a bit of a flame war going on about spam and I must have subconsciously associated the two different threads. BTW I actually submitted to the last survey ;). Also I take your point about the difference between popcon and the poll. I will check it out. Also please re-submit in anything changed. If not, you lose :-) -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 5:54 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:59:53PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emacs (comes with a free operating system) Me don't understand. charlie already answered this better than I could. killer app: screen -x killer app enabler: ssh Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these two in anything deserving great honours. okay fine, put it under there, but I'm disappointed that you won't make extra categories just for me!! ;-) I like the categories anyways, for they are so unique, and me hopes some will list some of their favourites under that, and if not it will have to go to the cateogry of the truly honourable. (side note) Someone in the past mentioned Meld as the killer app of Linux-based systems IE. it prompted such a user to move from something else, perhaps Windows. A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHMd/RaIeIEqwil4YRApJsAKCMbRRQ/SAisRn7rQU1YyNcc2aNqgCfTnXT rGokc06opXoKnS1V3oeADzQ= =pbd1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 10:19 AM, Emre Sevinc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): gcc, tex, latex Should I suppose that TeX and LaTeX is about the same thing? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 4:32 AM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: web browser: lynx, konqueror, + iceweasel (in i386 chroot for flash, javascript, plus a couple of sites that won't work on konq). This makes me curious why i386 chroot? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories: audio player: * gnome-cd How do I find this? video player: * xmms Is there a video extension or this a mistake? emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph interesting twist presentations: * emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph + powerdot Even more of an interesting twist. Are the results superior than those of OOo impress? Is the workflow faster? Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Such credentials I can only dream of... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 7:58 PM, Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tag editor: * etags (or is there some other kind of tag?) What's that? Me not understand. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 5:13 PM, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emacs (comes with a free operating system) Me don't understand. The long-standing joke is that emacs is a great editor, but a mediocre operating system. Most often pitted against its arch-rival vi in religious wars, emacs is (in that context) somewhat bloated according to its detractors. The fact that one can do email, webbrowsing, and work in a command-line environment simultaneously (all of that and much more without ever leaving emacs) is what has given rise to this mythos. That makes me want to try out the mighty and legendary Emacs, the poster child of the GNU project. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 4:32 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: It is not clear as to whether we should reply to you personally or post it on the d-u list. So I will just post it to the list... The list is better actually. mathematics: Can't understand what you mean by this... Anything working with mathematics, like calculators and so on, same as you've listed below... maxima, texmacs, gnuplot, octave (many programs are coming to my mind)... Is this your selection? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emacs (comes with a free operating system) Me don't understand. killer app: screen -x killer app enabler: ssh Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these two in anything deserving great honours. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 6, 2007 11:27 PM, Keith O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --} word-processor: * Vim/OOo Do you regard Vim a word processor, or is there something more? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: evince, xpdf How come this is? What's the limitations of each? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM, Charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --} mathematics: How does this work? Is it a mistake? * Lyx --} --} misc utilities: * Dia, VYM, K9copy, CDcat, Gkrellm, Kerry Beagle, Quanta, Unclutter, probably probably? Where does one get that? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2006 results for debian-user's favourite FLOSS
Last year (and the year before) I asked debian-user which of the thousands of available FLOSS was their favourite. I 'd like to do the same for this year (on another mail, so hurry not with your picks). Here's last year's results: audio editor: * audacity (8) - 2005 winner audio player: * xmms (9) * Amarok (4) - 2005 winner cd-ripper: * abcde, grip (6) * sound-juicer (5) - 2005 winner desktop OR window manager: * GNOME (8) - 2005 winner * KDE (6) * Fluxbox (5) * Xfce4 (4) DBMS: * MySQL (4) - 2005 winner * PostgreSQL (3) development: * Python (9) * GTK+ (4) * GCC, G++ (3) disc burner: * K3b (12) - 2005 winner * X-CD-Roast (4) * wodim, gnomebaker (3) e-mail client: * mutt (13) * Thunderbird/Icedove (7) - 2005 winner * kmail, Mozilla (4) * Sylpheed (3) file manager: * MC (7) - 2005 winner * Nautilus (7) * Konqueror (6) * bash (5) * Thunar, emelFM (3) finance: * gnucash (4) - 2005 winner ftp client: * gftp (6) - 2005 winner * ncftp (4) * llftp (3) image editor: * GIMP (21) * ImageMagick (3) image viewer: * GQview (9) * gthumb (8) - 2005 winner instant messenger: * Gaim (11) - 2005 winner * centericq (3) mathematics: * bc, Octave , gnuplot (3) misc utilities: * grep (19) * sudo (16) - 2005 winner * wget (16) * ssh (10) * lsof (7) * less (6) * Bash, ls, su, locate,sed (4) p2p: * aMule (3) - 2005 winner package manager: * aptitude (16) - 2005 winner * apt (13) * synaptic (7) pdf-reader: * xpdf (13) * evince (8) * kpdf (4) spreadsheet: * OpenOffice.org Calc (14) * gnumeric (13) system monitoring: * top (13) - 2005 winner tag editor: * easytag (5) - 2005 winner * ex-falso (4) * id3v2 (3) terminal emulator: * gnome-terminal (9) - 2005 winner * xterm, Konsole (7) * rxvt, xfce4-terminal (3) text editor: * vim (15) * gedit (9) - 2005 winner * Emacs (9) * nano (7) * vi (4) video player: * mplayer (17) - 2005 winner * VLC (7) * Xine (6) * Totem (5) * Kaffeine (4) web browser: * Firefox (21) * Epiphany, Mozilla/Seamonkey (6) * dillo (4) * Konqueror (3) word-processor: * OpenOffice.org Writer (15) * abiword (9) * LaTex (3) * lyx (3) (unreleased): * Gnu Hurd (3) (great honours): * Linux (12) * GCC (11) * GLibC (10) * Bash (10) * Xorg (11) * Debian (3) misc: * games [ nethack (4) ] * 3D animation [ blender (7) ] * web-server [ apache (3) ] non-free: * pdf-reader [acrobat-reader (9)] * web-browser [ Opera (4) ] -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debmirror md5sum failure
Hi, debmirror fails when given the following command: /usr/bin/debmirror \ --verbose --host=ftp.debian.org \ --root=debian/ --method=http --progress \ --passive --dist=sid --arch=none \ --ignore-release-gpg --section=main \ --pdiff=none \ /home/wena/sid The errors it prints are the following: Attempting to get lock, this might take 2 minutes before it fails. Get Release files. [0%] Getting: dists/sid/Release... ok [0%] Getting: dists/sid/Release.gpg... ok Get Packages and Sources files and other miscellany. dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz needs fetch [ 1%] Getting: dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz... ok dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz failed md5sum check dists/sid/main/source/Sources needs fetch [ 19%] Getting: dists/sid/main/source/Sources... dists/sid/main/source/Sources failed 404 Not Found dists/sid/main/source/Sources failed md5sum check, removing dists/sid/main/source/Sources failed md5sum check dists/sid/main/source/Sources.bz2 needs fetch [ 19%] Getting: dists/sid/main/source/Sources.bz2... ok dists/sid/main/source/Sources.bz2 failed md5sum check, removing Errors: dists/sid/main/source/Sources.gz failed md5sum check Download of dists/sid/main/source/Sources failed: 404 Not Found dists/sid/main/source/Sources failed md5sum check dists/sid/main/source/Sources.bz2 failed md5sum check, removing Failed to download some Package, Sources or Release files! WARNING: releasing 1 pending lock... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-cdrom add using an ISO image
On 10/19/07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:57:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:35:07AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'd like to loop-mount an ISO image and do an apt-cdrom add from it. I looked around and couldn't find the option. Is it possible? From the manpages I think this should to the trick (untested) mount /my/image.iso /mountpoint -oloop apt-cdrom -d=/mountpoint add And /mountpoint must be listed in fstab. For this, I would suggest creating a dedicated mount point and puting the whole thing in fstab. This way, aptitude can have apt mount the CD without any further intervention from you. The relevant fstab line looks like this: # file system mount point type options dump pass /home/wena/aptoncd.iso /home/wena/soka iso9660 user,loop0 0 With this I'm able to add the contents to sources.list with: apt-cdrom -m -d=/home/wena/soka add But then later apt keeps asking me to insert the disk inside as if it does not notice that the image is already mounted. How can I let it install from a mounted image? This is what the relevant line in sources.list file looks like: deb cdrom:[APTonCD for - i386 (2007-10-17 13:19) DVD1]/ / searching through the archives I got this to work by putting ff in my apt.conf: Acquire::cdrom::mount /home/wena/soka; APT::CDROM::NoMount; -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-cdrom add using an ISO image
On 9/20/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:57:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:35:07AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'd like to loop-mount an ISO image and do an apt-cdrom add from it. I looked around and couldn't find the option. Is it possible? From the manpages I think this should to the trick (untested) mount /my/image.iso /mountpoint -oloop apt-cdrom -d=/mountpoint add And /mountpoint must be listed in fstab. For this, I would suggest creating a dedicated mount point and puting the whole thing in fstab. This way, aptitude can have apt mount the CD without any further intervention from you. The relevant fstab line looks like this: # file system mount point type options dump pass /home/wena/aptoncd.iso /home/wena/soka iso9660 user,loop0 0 With this I'm able to add the contents to sources.list with: apt-cdrom -m -d=/home/wena/soka add But then later apt keeps asking me to insert the disk inside as if it does not notice that the image is already mounted. How can I let it install from a mounted image? This is what the relevant line in sources.list file looks like: deb cdrom:[APTonCD for - i386 (2007-10-17 13:19) DVD1]/ / -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Simultaneous AC3/DTS passthrough stereo analog output
I saw this on a Debian mailing list and maybe you may help: -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Oct 11, 2007 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Simultaneous AC3/DTS passthrough stereo analog output To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 09:39:41AM +0100, Bob wrote: Bob wrote: I'm using an Audigy2 in one PC and an SB Live value in another and I output to a 5.1 speaker system over S/PDIF coax and to my headphones (via the TV) over analogue stereo. I have AC3 passthrough working when I call mplayer with -afm hwac3, (I think DTS will work but can't find a test clip) and I can soft decode and downmix the AC3 audio with -afm liba52, so that's all great, except that with -afm liba52 rear left and right are mixed and I don't get anything out of the LFE track. What I can't do is both at once which would make life easer for SWMBO. I haven't followed this thread and frankly have not much idea what you're talking about here, but maybe pulseaudio can do what you need? just a thought. Thanks for your suggestion, on investigation it appears that PulseAudio cannot do AC3 pass through, I may be able to get it to work by having mplayer output 6 channel PCM, splitting it, downmixing one stream to stereo and outputting it to the analog output and using a real time software AC3 encoder to re-encode the second stream then outputting that to S/PDIF. There would be quite a quality/performance penalty though, particularly at low volume. I'd like to output the raw unadulterated AC3 / DTS as it came of the DVD to S/PDIF and a downmixed stereo version to analog. I've been fruitlessly searching the MythTV mailing list as this crops up fairly regularly over there. Oh well, guess it's not possible, it's funny, usually a product implemented in software gives you more flexibility than a dedicated hardware version but my cheep consumer DVD player automatically does this. Thank you for you time. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-cdrom add using an ISO image
On 9/20/07, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:57:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:35:07AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I'd like to loop-mount an ISO image and do an apt-cdrom add from it. I looked around and couldn't find the option. Is it possible? From the manpages I think this should to the trick (untested) mount /my/image.iso /mountpoint -oloop apt-cdrom -d=/mountpoint add And /mountpoint must be listed in fstab. For this, I would suggest creating a dedicated mount point and puting the whole thing in fstab. This way, aptitude can have apt mount the CD without any further intervention from you. Amazing that the options were glaring at me on the man pages. Thanks... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-cdrom add using an ISO image
Hi, I'd like to loop-mount an ISO image and do an apt-cdrom add from it. I looked around and couldn't find the option. Is it possible? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?
On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 16:26:40 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn client since I can access the web with a web-browser. Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why don't you install a svn client? I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html And help didn't help: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html You'll probably have the same problem with a web browser having a svn client extension. With a proxy server that filters some method, you can't access all the web, and changing the client won't solve your problem. If you control the web server itself, perhaps you can try something like SSH over HTTP (if CONNECT is allowed). It's interesting to note that I tried TortoiseSVN which runs on Windows and worked without a breeze. This leads me to think that the web server (which I dodn't control) does accept svn requests. The company network is run by Windows. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?
On 7/4/07, Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 10:20:57AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 16:26:40 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn client since I can access the web with a web-browser. Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why don't you install a svn client? I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html And help didn't help: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html You'll probably have the same problem with a web browser having a svn client extension. With a proxy server that filters some method, you can't access all the web, and changing the client won't solve your problem. If you control the web server itself, perhaps you can try something like SSH over HTTP (if CONNECT is allowed). It's interesting to note that I tried TortoiseSVN which runs on Windows and worked without a breeze. This leads me to think that the web server (which I dodn't control) does accept svn requests. The company network is run by Windows. The gnome subversion repository is also available via https: 1) Did you try to use http or https with the command-line client? I tried both. 2) Ditto - (but with tortoisesvn) ? It asked for username and password and it worked like a charm without further configuration. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn checkout via a web-browser?
On 7/4/07, Karl E. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 10:20:57AM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 16:26:40 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On 7/3/07, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-03 13:40:47 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Me have been struggling to access a subversion repo (svn checkout svn.gnome.org/svn/tracker/trunk) due to being behind a proxy server. I wonder if there's a way to download such repos without having an svn client since I can access the web with a web-browser. Only if your web browser is a also svn client. But if it isn't, why don't you install a svn client? I failed: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00075.html And help didn't help: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/07/msg00162.html You'll probably have the same problem with a web browser having a svn client extension. With a proxy server that filters some method, you can't access all the web, and changing the client won't solve your problem. If you control the web server itself, perhaps you can try something like SSH over HTTP (if CONNECT is allowed). It's interesting to note that I tried TortoiseSVN which runs on Windows and worked without a breeze. This leads me to think that the web server (which I dodn't control) does accept svn requests. The company network is run by Windows. I'm getting in late in this thread, but the windows proxy thing caught my eye (or is it caught my ear? never mind...) Most unix/linux tools are quite happy to work behind a standard HTTP proxy. But windows IIS proxy is *NOT* a standard proxy when it requires NTLM authentication - weirdy stuff... But epiphany understands NTLM, and I presume that TortoiseSVN does too. If you gave them your Windows active directory (ldap for you and me) password, that would be a clue. If the proxy is an NTLM-demanding windows proxy, then I'd expect other tools *not* to work too, e.g.: $ wget http://www.google.com would fail because of the proxy. Even: $ http_proxy=http://172.1.2.3:80 wget --proxy-user yourname --proxy-password=yourpassword http://www.google.com would fail too with a message to the effect not allowed. If you *do* have one of these nasty NTLM proxies, you can still use it by adding your own proxy in front of it (which usually means locally) nd letting your applications use that as a proxy. That's what the ntlmaps package does... This is copied from ntlmaps' config file and my inputs: # If you want APS to authenticate you at WWW servers using NTLM then just leave this # value blank like PARENT_PROXY: and APS will connect to web servers directly. # You can specify more than one proxy by leaving a space between each one, and # APS will detect when one fails and automatically fail-over to the next. EG: #PARENT_PROXY:first_proxy second_proxy third_proxy # And NOTE that NTLM cannot pass through another proxy server. PARENT_PROXY: 172.16.3.1 4.1.2.3 PARENT_PROXY_PORT: 80 1st IP is company's proxy server (one I successfully use with Epiphany) and the 2nd one is my own (and I wonder if this is enough to create own proxy). This is copied from wget's config file and my inputs: http_proxy = http://4.1.2.3:80/ So, running wget x.org times out since it takes forever without downloading anything. Similarly, adding same own proxy data to ./subversion/servers results in a forever wait, and failure. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
