Gateway problem...
Hi... I'm having problems with routing for a gateway... I have a gateway machine that works with the win9x setup, and used to work with debian... but it no longer works with debian for some reason.. Here's what I do: route add default gw tom (tom is in hosts) I also tried a: route add default gw tom metric 1 (which I found in /etc/init.d/network (or some init file)) After doing the route, I tried pinging yahoo.. # ping www.yahoo.com ping: unknown host www.yahoo.com I then got one of yahoo's ip addresses from the windows bootup and tried this: # ping 204.71.200.74 PING 204.71.200.74 (204.71.200.74): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote 204.71.200.74 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Operation not permitted ping: wrote 204.71.200.74 64 chars, ret=-1 if I do the ping without doing the route, ping replies with no route to host I have no idea why it come up with operation not permitted?
Re: WP 8 problem
Well I agree with Riccardo! It took me 18 hours to _finally_ get all 7 parts of the software. I found that there readme was written by someone that didn't even try to load the 7 parts. I then found that the Runme file didn't do anything (useful) so I had to figure out why .gz files were not, if fact, gzipped but tarred. Then, after looking at the Runme script, saw that it expected lowercase file names, so changed them. Ok, now to get the Runme to run. Forget it. It is looking for files that aren't there. A check of the ./linux/bin file shows that they are not executeable, in fact 'file ./linux/bin' says they are data files. OK, look on the list to see what others are finding. OK, now look for xwp. I am still looking. It isn't in the packages that I have. Look for _any_ executeables. Found Runme, which doesn't do anything but ask me if I have 'unzip'ed un-tared the files'. I find it a total waste of time and effort. I would not bother to even download it now _even_ if they said it was totally FREE. I don't understand why it took 18 hours??? it's not 180 megs or something... I got mine from ftp.cdrom.com, which gave me 2-3kps.. that ftpsite is also where I get my debian packages, so if it takes you 18 hours you should have waited for other places to mirror it... places you normally get good transfer rates with.. As for installation, everything went virtually uneventfully... moved the file to home directory, tar xzzvf GUI* it extracted fine. read readme, not much there, ran runme, didn't work. read readme again, found out you had to run it in 'sh' shell. Ran sh. Ran runme, installed it. Ran xwp from wpbin directory. The functionality is another story though... fooling around with the software, I found some parts that said only available in commercial version. I was under the impression that it was fully functionable for personal use.. that made no mention of limited features. They should have indicated it was limited in some way.
Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
| thanks for the input... I checked and I had those packages installed | already... and I couldn't find any packages with the same name but without | the 'g' at the end...It still gives the same error... | ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory If I remember your problem correctly... The X11 libs are in /usr/X11R6/lib and you have to tell ld to look there. If you post the top of your Makefile we should be able to help. It was fixed with a previous suggestion of editing /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/X11.tmpl changing INCDIR = $(INCROOT) /* header files */ to be: INCDIR = $(INCROOT)/X11 /* header files */ Thank you..
WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
Hi... I was trying to install WindowMaker 0.20.3 that I got from www.windowmaker.org In the INSTALL file, it said: The following is required to build Window Maker: -Basic Obvious Stuff If you will build Window Maker, make sure you have gcc (or some other ANSI C compiler) and the X header files installed. Specially for newbie Linux users: you must install all X development packages and the gcc suite. Otherwise you won't be able to build any X program, including WindowMaker. And then, further down: - Debian Linux If you want JPEG and TIFF support, make sure you have libtiff-dev and libjpeg-dev So I went ahead with the make anyway, got some problems, but installed some packages to solve the problem. But now I get stuck at : gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../src -g -O2 -c test.c gcc -g -O2 -o test test.o -L. -lwraster -lX11 -lm ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [test] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving Directory `/home/tunabear/WindowMaker-0.20.3/wrlib' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Alright... so I don't think I can build any X program at this point... but I can't find any X header/development stuff I didn't installcan someone tell me the packages? Also, I can't find libtiff-dev and libjpeg-dev packages, so maybe my problem is I need frozen/slink? If so, what's the best way to upgrade? At this point, the way I would do it is to use ftp in dselect, point it to slink, update the packages, and do the upgrades. Or maybe use apt-get dselect-upgrade (because the last time I used dselect to try and do that, it screwed up..) I just did a search through the recent mail list archive, and there's quite a few messages against upgrading to frozen/slink... (I'm tired of reinstalling/fixing, so I'm asking before plunging blindly ahead :) ) if I shouldn't upgrade, how does anyone use new stuff without waiting weeks, or months for a new stable distribution? thanks in advance again..
Re: WindowMaker 0.20.3 on hamm
Hi... I was trying to install WindowMaker 0.20.3 that I got from www.windowmaker.org Alright... so I don't think I can build any X program at this point... but I can't find any X header/development stuff I didn't installcan someone tell me the packages? Also, I can't find libtiff-dev and libjpeg-dev packages, so maybe my problem is I need frozen/slink? I've got hamm, and the following packages (might not be a list of everything you need, but hey, I'm just searching through dselect...); libtiff3g-dev libjpegg-dev xpm4g-dev xlib6g-dev I've also got a few libc5 variants of some of the above (similar names but without the g on the end). I'm not sure which I used when I compiled wmaker 0.20.3. I've not installed anything that's not in hamm. thanks for the input... I checked and I had those packages installed already... and I couldn't find any packages with the same name but without the 'g' at the end...It still gives the same error... ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory I suspect I'm missing some X development package? Are there any others? hmm
Various (basic?) debian questions...
Hi all, thanks for all who have helped me out so far. Slowly, but steadily, I'm getting to know how to do things in debian... My new questions are : How do debian packages work? Everything that came on the cd works nicely : if you keep it that way. My general question in short, is, how to install new .deb packages from the net properly? How to install E, licq, GQMpeg? How to convert rpm to deb properly? (seems most people has rpm dists) Is there somewhere with a debian-beginner-beginner kind of documentation? I mean, I can't seem to find any docs for how someone is supposed to install deb packages they got on their own, etc. etc.I looked through support and documentation pages on www.debian.org. Support? IRC (hard when you don't have your computer working, or when you don't feel like wading through lots of messages. And some people are just kind of rude) Documentation pages talks mostly about how to get debian installed the following is some stuff I did, and screwed up, that led to these questions so maybe you'll have an understanding of where I'm coming from.. -- I got all my hardware working, even the sound on my OPL-SA3 using the ALSA driver... I started to set my sights on the software side of things: X and windowmaker, and the software to go with it to make it nice and usable. First off, I tried to get the GQMpeg frontend for mpg123 player. There was no .deb package, and I couldn't figure out the dependencies (well, I gave up.. it wasn't very important). Then, I tried to get Licq working, no .deb package either. Couldn't work it out. Then, I tried to get Enlightenment the window manager working. Couldn't get it working. I kept trying to get E to work though... Steps I took: 1. Went to www.enlightenment.org 2. Got the rpm dist 3. Used Alien on the rpm 4. did a dpkg -i on the produced deb 5. dselect, looked at it, and it said it didn't depend on anything and was installed. E depended on a lot of things though... and when I looked at one of the info sections, it showed all the deps, but dselect didn't check it. 6. Decided, fine. I'll try and find a real deb, or some faqs... 7. Looked on the E faq, told me to get the files needed for debian from a grab table, lots of deb packages were shown there, but they were all broken links. 8. Found that most of the packages were linked to ftp.debian.org, so I manually went there, and grabbed packages with the same name, but different version number.. 9. To make a long story short, I did dpkg -i on all the packages I got, enlightenment was happy, but everything else was not. libc was now a 'u' version, when it was a 't' version before. Everything was screwed up, so I said, who.. and deleted the linux partition. 10. Re-installed debian (10th time? 20th?) To save time, I didn't re-install all the packages... just the stuff I seem to use so far. (all the reqs, some of the standard stuff) 11. tried to get my sound working again, couldn't get alsa-driver to compile. 12. dselect, selected 2.0.34 kernel source, installed it. 13. alsa-driver still won't compile. 14. configured the kernel, tried to compiled it, didn't work. missing a86... 15. forgot that I needed bin86 package. Installed that. 16. kernel recompiled uneventfully. didn't do anything with it though because I didn't need it (Had a previously compiled kernelI was using) 15. alsa-driver compiled. 16. alsa-libs compiled 17. alsa-utils failed to compile. Didn't know why. 18. Even though ./configure for alsa-utils didn't fail outright, it said some things weren't found... byacc, bison, etc... 19. I installed those. Realized, most programs probably rely on standard packages. So, I installed all the standard packages. 20. but for some reason, g++ caused a conflict with another standard package g++libstd something or another. 21. chose g++ because I needed that. 22. got sound working again, got x working with windowmaker again. 23. tried to get enlightenment working again, used the ftp access method in dselect to get new updated package listings. New package listings did not show the deps that E needed. Did a dpkg -a on all the debs I kept from previous installations. Went in, tried to get all the dependencies working before installing the packages. 24. failed miserably. something wrong with libc6 'u' version and libc6 't' version... 25. gave up. spent about 10 hours.
Re: Debian installation hangs
I searched the kernel sources and I found this is the multiple devices driver. That handles disk striping (RAID 0), RAID 5, etc. I have never heard of this problem, nor do I have any insight as to what might cause this error. I was taught to disconnect unnecessary devices when things like this happened, reconnect cables and check master/slave settings, but maybe you already did that. I do see they use different driver versions, and if 0.36.3 works, then perhaps you need 0.36.3 for your box. The nature of drivers is to evolve and support more devices, after all. I have kernel 2.0.36 (from slink) installed (on hamm) and md is version 0.36.3. I tried booting with SoundBlaster, CD-ROM and SyJet disabled, but it didn't seem to help. And all the devices work fine under another O/S (that dare not speak its name on this list), so I don't think the actual hardware's at fault. This is not related to this problem, but I thought I'd just throw in some ideas... I have an Adaptec 2940UW, and when I upgraded my motherboard and cpu, I put it in PCI slot #1. Debian cd boot up hung somewhere. (I think at the scsi init area). That other O/S still worked perfectly though. But, I switched the adaptec to slot #2, and the video card to slot #1, and everything was fine and dandy again. Reason? I still don't know. Does anyone? maybe you could try removing your hardware and you might find something quirky...
Clock Skew?
Hi... while compiling the kernel, I got a Clock Skew detected, your compile may not be complete (or something to that effect...) What is clock skew?? This started after I changed my motherboard to an Aopen AX6B (used to be asus KN97) I'm also running a Celeron now, though I don't think this is the problem (?) Once, when I got back into win98, I noticed that my computer clock was off by a day Does anyone have an inkling of idea as to what is happening? thank you!!
Linux shutdown
Hello ... I was wondering if there was a way for linux to make use of the ATX soft power switch... For example, shutdown ... totally, power and all just like win9x. or, suspend to disk by pressing the momentary button? thanks, -tun
