Re: Recommend an email program for the debian-user-digest?
On Thursday 20 July 2006 23:22, H.S. wrote: DJ Hackenbruch wrote: I personally find browsing newsgroups (with their threaded options) much more convenient than reading emails. The only client I have seen that threads emails is mutt. kmail, thunderbird also have threading options. Infact kmail has something called mailing list management which detects mailing lists automatically. Couple of advantages of this mailing list management are that one does not need to remember the instructions to subscribe/unsubscribe to the mailing lists, figure out how to send the replies (ie to the list/sender etc.,). There are infact many more bells and whistles of course... raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnuplot not working properly inside nxclient
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 11:40, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Hi all Using Debian Sid, NXCLIENT - Version 1.5.0-141, G N U P L O T Version 4.0 patchlevel 0, NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-45-SVN. Inside the nxclient program, I open a konsole and run gnuplot. At the prompt of gnuplot if I run test I am getting the following errors gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'red'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'blue'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'magenta'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'cyan'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'sienna'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'orange'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'green'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'coral'. Using black. The X11 terminal is then unable to plot any colored lines. All the lines are black. However if I use gnuplot from ssh, then the colors are fine and the errors above are absent. I am using nxclient from no machine's website, nxserver is installed from deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ sid nx . Any ideas as to how to solve this problem? thanks raju Answering my own question as it might be helpful for people reading the archives at a later point of time. The trick here is to copy /etc/X11/rgb.txt to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ and then everything works fine. Found the solution in Ubuntu forums ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192327 ) regards raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why?
On Monday 10 July 2006 23:13, Mark Fletcher wrote: --- S Clement [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am new to Debian - within the last two weeks - and two things puzzle me. Why do you seem to prefer gnome over kde? I have examined both and kde seems to me to be easier to use. There must be something I am missing. It's a very personal choice -- I for one prefer KDE to Gnome. That said I use GDM (the Gnome Display Manager) instead of KDM to kick off KDE -- but that's for no better reason than that I set it up way back at the beginning before I Knew What I Was Doing (TM) and had some problems with KDM I couldn't get to the bottom of whilst GDM worked out of the box. I was probably doing something embarrassingly stupid but I've never had a compelling reason to go back and try again. If you are using gdm as the display manager, but are using kde as your desktop environment then the only problem I can see is that both gnome and KDE libraries are being loaded into memory. I would expect that less memory would be used if you stick with gdm+gnome or kdm+KDE setup. But then, if you are using any of these beasts, you are probably not worried about memory issues. Are you? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update and Package manager unresponsive
On Saturday 08 July 2006 09:20, Stephen Fahey wrote: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? You cannot run two simulataneous processes both of which will upgrade packages on your system. For example you cannot run two apt-get sessions or apt-get+synaptic sessions etc., simultaneously. To make sure that there are no such simultaneous sessions what apt does is to create a lock file. If the lock file is present other process cannot upgrade the packages. What would have happened in your case is that one of your apt-get/synaptic/aptitude sessions were stopped abruptly. So the lock file was not deleted. you can kill the corresponding apt-get/synaptic/aptitude process by doing pkill apt-get as root. Substitude apt-get with your package manager. After that everything should be fine. I've tried rebooting to no effect. If you are using Debian (or any other Linux for that matter), normally you can trouble shoot a problem without rebooting. Rebooting is M$ way of solving problems. Do you want to be perceived as a clueless M$ user? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?
On Saturday 08 July 2006 12:09, Art Edwards wrote: I have been writing to the list about two applications that are so broken on the AMD64 distribution that they render the box pretty useless. I'm sure one could say that two measly applications are no big deal. However, if you do scientific computation for a living, and two of the primary tools are broken, you now have a rather clumsy paperweight where a computer should be. You could argue that we should simply learn new tools, and we could, but we should really be doing science instead. Could you please be a bit more specific? Which two applications are you talking about? As a side note, there is no stable release of debian for amd64 architecture. Your criticism would be justified if you see the above mentioned problems in a stable release of Debian. Please see http://www.debian.org/ports/ for a list of architectures supported by Debian. If you are using testing/unstable distributions, the applications are bound to break sooner or later. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
Conside the following example The dependencies on privoxy are given by $apt-cache depends privoxy privoxy Depends: libc6 Depends: libpcre3 Depends: logrotate Depends: adduser Recommends: doc-base Now whenever I am upgrading privoxy, I would like apt-get (or aptitude or whatever other software) to check if there any newer versions of the dependencies and update those as well. Is this possible? If so, How? thanks raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:10, Alec Berryman wrote: Kamaraju Kusumanchi on 2006-07-06 13:07:41 -0400: Now whenever I am upgrading privoxy, I would like apt-get (or aptitude or whatever other software) to check if there any newer versions of the dependencies and update those as well. Is this possible? If so, How? 'apt-get upgrade' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' do that automatically. Nope. apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade wants to upgrade a slew of other packages besides what I want. I dont want to upgrade the entire system. I just want to upgrade privoxy and its dependencies. raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:27, Wackojacko wrote: apt-get install privoxy ?? This will upgrade the dependencies only if privoxy requires so. But I want to upgrade the dependencies whenever I upgrade the privoxy no matter whether it requires it or not. Perhaps privoxy is not such a good example. Consider the metapackage kde. Initially if I say apt-get install kde it will also pull say konqueror package. Now after some time, konqueror package gets upgraded and kde is not upgraded. Now if I do apt-get install kde then konqueror is not upgraded. I want the upgrade of konqueror to be automatic whenever kde is upgraded Anyway, I was browsing the BTS and found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=74067 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=93549 Those bugs were reported around 5 years ago! So probably there is no way to do this by default with apt-get. raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:23, Stephen R Laniel wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 01:18:45PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Nope. apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade wants to upgrade a slew of other packages besides what I want. I dont want to upgrade the entire system. I just want to upgrade privoxy and its dependencies. 1) Install apt-rdepends. This is what I need. Thanks. 3) Use this shell command to munge that list into a list of unique package names: apt-rdepends privoxy |grep Depends |sed 's/^\s\+Depends: //' |sed 's/([^)]\+)$//' |sort |uniq I presume that apt-rdepends also outputs some optional dependencies, or multiple packages that satisfy the same dependency (like www-browser). The packages like www-browser are not a problem for me at present. I modified your script a little bit and settled onto $apt-rdepends privoxy 21 |grep Depends |sed 's/^\s\+Depends: //' | sed 's/^\s\+PreDepends: //' |sed 's/([^)]\+)$//' |sort |uniq | tr '\n' ' ' The last tr is useful so that I can do sudo apt-get install `above command here` Other wise I do not know how to pass the result to apt-get without any fancy scripts. Any other ideas are also welcome. thanks raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
On Thursday 06 July 2006 14:15, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
above command | xargs -i apt-get install '{}'
The -i option is not documented in the xargs man page. The -I is documented
but I do not know whether they are the same. Anyway I changed the xargs
command to -n1. So now the command looks as
$apt-rdepends vim-full 21 |grep Depends |sed 's/^\s\+Depends: //' |
sed 's/^\s\+PreDepends: //' |sed 's/([^)]\+)$//' |sort |uniq | xargs -n1 sudo
apt-get install
however there is a slight problem with this. The interactive behaviour
of 'apt-get install' is a bit different. For example there is the following
situation
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
debconf-i18n
The following NEW packages will be installed:
debconf-english
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 605 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/852B of archives.
After unpacking 754kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Abort.
At this point I would like the prompt to wait for the user's input. But I dont
know why apt-get is Aborting it.
I also do not want to use --assume-yes since sometimes I would like to say no
and sometimes I would like to say yes at these prompts.
thanks
raju
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Re: Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Consider the following example The dependencies on privoxy are given by $apt-cache depends privoxy privoxy Depends: libc6 Depends: libpcre3 Depends: logrotate Depends: adduser Recommends: doc-base Now whenever I am upgrading privoxy, I would like apt-get (or aptitude or whatever other software) to check if there any newer versions of the dependencies and update those as well. Is this possible? If so, How? If anyone is interested. I attached the final bash script. It is no where near optimal but it serves the purpose. Thank you very much Stephen and others who helped. raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. dep_upgrade.sh Description: application/shellscript
Re: Update all the packages that depend on a particular package
On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:23, Ron Johnson wrote: Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:27, Wackojacko wrote: apt-get install privoxy ?? This will upgrade the dependencies only if privoxy requires so. But I want to upgrade the dependencies whenever I upgrade the privoxy no matter whether it requires it or not. Out of curiosity, why? While compiling privoxy from source, I was hitting an FTBFS bug ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375038 ) if I use the dpkg-buildpackage way whereas it compiles fine if I use the pbuilder way. The maintainer of privoxy is unable to reproduce this. So it is something with my system. Then I thought let me just upgrade all the packages that privoxy depends (directly or indirectly). You know the rest of the story! raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?
On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:58, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: 1. Please be a man (or a woman or whatever gender you choose) and actually post from a real email address with a real name. and get spammed like crazy :-) My personal experience is that if you use a real email address to subscribe to d-u, you are doomed. Your email address is available in the archives and the spammers will be more than happy to send you billions of dollars you won through lottery or inherited or given by a patient dying from prostate and esophageal Cancer after confirming your Paypal, eBay and Bank accounts. The money can then be used to purchase software, stocks, V I A G R A or to go for pe***s enlargement operations which will be helpful when you find that special someone. Just kidding did not mean to offend anyone... raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?
On Thursday 06 July 2006 17:26, Stephen R Laniel wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 05:31:10PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: My personal experience is that if you use a real email address to subscribe to d-u, you are doomed. Only if your spam-catching software is bad. I make no attempt to hide my email address, either here or on the web. My server uses greylisting, whitelisting and blacklisting, and consequently I maybe get a spam every other day. But not everyone has the resources to run a dedicated mail server and maintain it. Many people use webmail such as gmail, yahoo, hotmail etc., What about them? They should suffer by exposing their email address to the public just because they wanted to help other debian users? raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using real email addresses to mailing lists (was Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?)
On Thursday 06 July 2006 17:36, Stephen R Laniel wrote: See also Karsten Self on challenge/response systems: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html I think you are referring to me using a C-R system. Let me just start out by saying that, I am not completely in favor of the CR system either. It is just one of the methods that is suitable for my situation. I dont have resources and energy to run my own mail server. So white/black (or any other color in between :-) ) listing is not an option for me. I was previously using gmail. But all gmail does is filter the spam out. The drawbacks of this and using the gmail+spamcop is also not a viable solution to get rid of spam. More details at http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2006/06/gmail-and-spamcop-vs-bluebottle.html Besides the fact that karsten's article is 2 years old, here are my opinions about some of the issues raised by him. I am using blubottle's CR system. I use this account just for mailing list subscriptions. 0. Weak, and trivially abused, verification basis. It seems bluebottle takes necessary precautions to prevent FROM: headers forgery. More info at http://forums.bluebottle.com/index.php?showtopic=224st=0#entry982 The CR-CR deadlock described under entry 7 is not an issue here. There is a folder called pending in bluebottle account. The user can go there and approve the emails if the need arises. The mailing list support is what worries me. Currently I am not having any problems with d-u. But I am having problems with other mailing lists like vim where I had to approve the new from addresses manually. More details at http://forums.bluebottle.com/index.php?showtopic=221 But this inconvenience is minor compared to going through hundreds of emails in gmail's spam folder looking for one or two false positives. To conclude, CR is not the best system out there to have a spam-free INBOX. But it is good enough for people who rely on webmail rather than setting up their own mail servers. I am open to any other suggestions which will get rid of the spam problem in people's INBOX's. raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
slow memory leak when running gvim
Initially I have $free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1011806204 0 67458 -/+ buffers/cache:280730 Swap: 953 0953 Open 10 gvim windows $gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; gvim; quit all the windows. Then I have $free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1011809201 0 67460 -/+ buffers/cache:281730 Swap: 953 0953 Is this normal? A 3-4MB additional memory is being used for every 10 gvim windows opened. Does anyone else see this behaviour? I am using debian etch, $dpkg -l vim\* | grep ^ii ii vim-common 6.4-007+1 Vi IMproved - Common files ii vim-full6.4-007+1 Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fled ii vim-gui-common 6.4-007+1 Vi IMproved - Common GUI files ii vim-latexsuite 20060325-1 View, edit and compile LaTeX documents from ii vim-runtime 6.4-007+1 Vi IMproved - Runtime files thanks raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: impressed with etch
On Monday 03 July 2006 21:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:16:43PM +0100, B.Hoffmann wrote: I'll wait for when it's stable, but it's highly likely that I'll replace the Breezy Badger on two machines when it's come up to it's end of support early next year and go back to Debian. Sorry to be dense, but what's a Breezy Badger? It is the name of one of the releases of the Ubuntu distribution. More info can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distribution) raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which desktop for an old thinkpad pentium II with 128MB?
On Tuesday 27 June 2006 05:01, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le mardi 27 juin 2006 à 10:42 +0200, Arnau a écrit : Hi all, I have an old thinkpad pentium II with 128MB of RAM and I'd like to install a desktop. I have been using KDE on that machine and although it's usable, now I'd like to use something ligther. Which desktop would you recommend me? That's a usual flame-starting question, ain't it? You have many choices, I liked IceWM, FVWM2 is also a good choice. I use Ion2 which is lightweight. It's a tabbed window manager where (by default) all windows are fullscreen with a tab to select the window. It can completely be controlled from the keyboard. (It also fully supports the mouse as well as usual floating windows.) flame suite The one thing that ion lacks by default is alt+tab mapping to switch between windows. Another little annoyance is the prompts for passwords etc., are also shown in full screen. For example, when I open kmail, it prompts for a passoword to kwallet, even this password prompt takes up a lot of screen. Other than these two points, ion is an excellent window manager. But they were good enough to make me go back to my old WM. /flame suite raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about
OT : need advice on bluebottle
The online bluebottle forum ( http://forums.bluebottle.com/ ) requires me to register for a bluebottle address before posting anything. However, I do not want to register with their service without knowing answers to some questions. Can we subscribe to mailing lists like debian-user using bluebottle's service? Will it create any problems in the future? If you are a bluebottle user could you throw some advice on advantages/disadvantages of using their service? Before someone says it, I know that CR systems have their own disadvantages. However, my current gmail address is being bombarded with spam emails (of the order of 100 everyday) as the address is archived on internet. I have tried various things besides reporting the spam emails to www.spamcop.net and the matters have become worse since then. So finally, I am considering discarding the gmail's service and getting a free account on bluebottle. Any advice in this regard is highly appreciated. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is apt-file working in Testing ?
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 13:24, Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote: Hello, Today I tried to use apt-file, I made a apt-file update, I got no output of the command. And when I try to make a search I get no answer. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-file search stdio.h [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Have you tried running sudo apt-file update before doing the search? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about
Re: OT : need advice on bluebottle
On Wednesday 28 June 2006 16:58, Kevin Mark wrote: Hi raju, I think since you are getting lots of spam with the google BETA gmail service, you should give them 'a few words' of what is lacking in their service as a beta tester. We have the BTS, and our users. Google should know what its users want, tell them. just my 2 euro-centimes. kev Hi Kevin, Google's approach so far is that they just filter out the spam email and put them in a folder/label called spam. The trouble with this approach is that there are usually some false positives and it takes a lot of time to go through all the spam looking for false positives. Sometimes couple of spam emails end up in the Inbox itself. The forums for gmail have not helped either. Their support system is not as open as BTS. All you can do is report it and then forget it. They will not tell what kind of actions they are taking regarding all the suggestions, bugs, complaints. I have sent a lot of suggestions before and realized that it is pointless. All you get is one standard automated reply back. raju -- This email account uses challenge-response system. Contact me only if you are comfortable with it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken packages in Debian Sid
On Sunday 25 June 2006 08:43, Wasyl wrote: Hi, When i want to install a package often i see such result: [~] % sudo apt-get install rhythmbox [~] % sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good Both packages can be installed and removed fine. Cannot reproduce your problem. Using Debian sid. I use Debian Sid, the lasted apt-get update. Are your mirrors uptodate? What is the output of $dpkg -l rhythmbox gstreamer0.10-plugins-good For me it is rc gstreamer0.10- 0.10.3-2 GStreamer plugins from the good set rc rhythmbox 0.9.5-1music player and organizer for GNOME Do you see the same versions? otherwise your mirrors are not upto date. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cron and kmessage
My actual problem is that I want to display a message at specific times (every 0th, 30th minute of hour) on the user's screen. I thought I can do this with cron and kmessage. I edited the crontab entry as 0,30 * * * *kdialog --msgbox test message But then it does not display the dialog on the screen. Instead it sends an email to the user's address with the following message kdialog: cannot connect to X server How can I solve this problem? I also had a look at korganizer, but it can only repeat tasks on a day-by-day basis, not on a minute-by-minute basis. Is there any other way? Using Debian, Sid. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnuplot not working properly inside nxclient
Hi all Using Debian Sid, NXCLIENT - Version 1.5.0-141, G N U P L O T Version 4.0 patchlevel 0, NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-45-SVN. Inside the nxclient program, I open a konsole and run gnuplot. At the prompt of gnuplot if I run test I am getting the following errors gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'black'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'red'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'blue'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'magenta'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'cyan'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'sienna'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'orange'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'green'. Using black. gnuplot: unable to parse 'coral'. Using black. The X11 terminal is then unable to plot any colored lines. All the lines are black. However if I use gnuplot from ssh, then the colors are fine and the errors above are absent. I am using nxclient from no machine's website, nxserver is installed from deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ sid nx . Any ideas as to how to solve this problem? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replying to list
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 09:20, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le mercredi 21 juin 2006 à 13:55 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook a écrit : If it's not an FAQ, why doesn't this list use the Reply-to field in the address headers? A couple of times recently I've hit Reply and sent a response to the originator, rather than the list - for which I apologise. All other - non-Debian - lists to which I subscribe use this field and it enables one to concentrate on the message, rather than the postman:-) Peter HB I suppose the reason is: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I think a correct way to implement this is as follows. When a user subscribes to a debian mailing list, there is a configuration page somewhere on the web where he can go and set his preference whether to munge reply-to address or not. Depending on his preference, from then on everything should work as the *user* expected. I have read both the for/against arguments of reply-to munging. If the choice is given to the user, then it would be the best I think. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about
Re: Xorg Configuration in Etch
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 20:55, T wrote: What is the recommended way to configure Xorg under Debian Etch then? Does dpkg-reconfigure xorg solve your problem? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newer twiki package?
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 08:16, Stephan Seitz wrote: Hi! The twiki package in Debian is 20040902-3, which is quite old. The current version fixing several security issues is 4.0.2. One solution is to file a wishlist bug asking for a new version of twiki. You can use reportbug program to report bugs. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newer twiki package?
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 12:17, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 10:41:52AM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: One solution is to file a wishlist bug asking for a new version of twiki. You can use reportbug program to report bugs. There is already one sent 111 days ago without answer of the maintainer. There is a bug concerning the security issue without answer. The maintainer might be MIA. Sorry. My apologies. I actually did querybts twiki before sending that email. But somehow I missed the http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354759 bug report . raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: does reporting to spamcop do any good?
Has anyone on the list used spamcop ( http://www.spamcop.net/ ) to report spam? It takes sometime to report the spam. Is it worth investing that much time? What are your experiences? Are there any better alternatives? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
difference between .xinitrc and .xsession files
Is there any document/wiki which explains the file name conventions of the various .[xX]* files in Debian system? In particular I am looking for the differences between .xinitrc, .xsession files. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beginner help
On Thursday 15 June 2006 10:59, Mike Hill wrote: I am a very new beginner to Debian. If this is not the right place to ask, then perhaps others can direct me. I installed Sarge, and seem to have Gnome Desktop running. I have a few questions. 1.I need to add a user, but when I do, they cannot access the sound card. I think it is permissions, but where do I start? This is already answered by others on the list. But for future sound related questions you can check http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ as a starting point. Since it is a wiki, it can be edited by everyone and so the information tends to be more up to date. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beginner Help
On Thursday 15 June 2006 11:58, Joseph Smidt wrote: Note: press enter after each command.(I know this is obvious, but just in case you are *really* a beginner) Also, you may have to reboot after installing kde and kdm, I can't remember. I hope this works for you. Please dont post incorrect/uncertain information. It is better not to post anything than providing false information (especially for people reading archives). That being said, you need not reboot after installing kde or for that matter kdm. If you want to start kdm service, as a root do /etc/init.d/kdm restart and kdm service will be restarted. However, when you install kdm, this should be automatically taken care of. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dapper Drake verdict: It sucks
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 03:04, Brent Clark wrote: Sorry, couldnt resist http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=1026 After reading this sentence in the above article Once again I should have probably read the manual, but I figured I've done this before. I think there is no need to give any importance to his review. IMHO, If someone does not take time to read a manual then it is not even worth considering his opinions/rant on a new release. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrade only if installed
I would like to upgrade a package only if it is installed. If the package is not already installed, I would not want it to be installed. Is this possible? Currently when I use apt-get install packagename apt-get does not distinguish between whether the package has already been installed or not. Is there any other program which distinguishes between the two? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 10:28, Ron Johnson wrote: Yes, for s/w which has no other analog. Kino and GoogleEarth being two examples of Qt apps which I use on my GNOME system. I did not know that google earth is available for Linux. I just now checked http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html and there it is! Totally cool! One more less reason to not run M$. Thanks for pointing it out raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GNOME new file selection dialogs
On Friday 09 June 2006 09:23, Carl Fink wrote: You aren't PERMITTED to type a directory path in, even if you know it? Just start typing the file name. You can also use ctrl-l. I don't have a lot of good alternatives to FireFox for browsers. (Konqueror is okay, but I've become dependent on stuff like FlashBlock and ImageZoom.) For good or bad, I shifted from firefox to konqueror just because of this stupid (IMHO) gtk issue. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tor
On Saturday 10 June 2006 23:34, Jiann-Ming Su wrote: On 6/10/06, Katipo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Anybody had any personal experience of this project, or the individuals involved with it? http://tor.eff.org/ Just wondering about integrity. Grateful for any information. Tor is amazingly easy to set up in Debian. Install it and privoxy with apt-get. Then follow steps 2-4 at http://tor.eff.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en. I found http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/123 article very easy useful to set up firefox with tor. My experience has been that it is damn slow most of the time. Sometimes some of the web pages do not even load. I got frustrated at some point and deinstalled it. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: secure-testing.debian.net down?
On Monday 12 June 2006 02:28, Andrew Schulman wrote: sigh Thanks. I wish there were a better way of distributing notice of these sorts of changes. debian-devel-announce? Try subscribing to debian-news mailing list. More info can be found at http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ For example, the testing security archive move came up in http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/debian-news-2006/msg00020.html hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Dell M70
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 17:52, oscar wrote: Hello, I have installed Debian in a Dell Precision M70 (Centrino 1.86 GHz, 1 GB RAM). I have used a kernel 2.6.16.9 customized in order to allow SATA disks during boot. I am working with the xorg.conf of http://doku.lug-untermain.de/index.php/LUGUM:Debian_Sid_auf_Dell_Precision_ M70#X11 Not enough information to track down the problem. Let's start with these! Which distribution are you running? What is your video card? Are there any third party software installed? Assuming you are starting X using startx command, do you get any errors on the console? Are there any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Is the lo interface configured properly? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
choosewm does not give kwin as an option
I installed choosewm and made it the default session manager via sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager But when I login and do startx, there is no kwin option. The options that it is giving are ctwm, ion3, pwm3, ratpoison, twm. How can I go into KDE through choosewm's menu? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: source code editor
On Thursday 01 June 2006 07:37, Angel L. Mateo wrote: El jue, 01-06-2006 a las 10:12 +0200, Ivan Glushkov escribió: Hi all, I would like to know which is the best lightest editor for source code editing, which supports syntax highlighting. Currently when I want to edit fast some C/C++ file I am opening it with pico. I looked around, but it seems like it does not support syntax highlighting. Have you tried vi? If you are learning a new editor, learn vim instead of vi. vim is basically 'vi iMproved'. It is a very nice, powerful and not bloated editor. It has syntax highlighting, folding, ctags support, compile/edit/run support within vim and a lot more. On consoles you can use vim. For graphical environments you can use gvim. If you are serious about programming, move away from editors like pico. Use programming editors like vim, emacs etc., They save you a lot of time in the long run. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about
security support for testing distribution
I am trying to understand how the security support works for testing distribution. According to http://www.debian.org/security/faq.en.html#testing-security security support migrates from unstable to testing for any package. However, there is a separate testing security repository according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg6.html Does that mean that security updates go from unstable to testing security repository to testing distribution or am I misreading something here? thanks for any pointers raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-free nvidia driver on etch?
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 16:03, Owen Heisler wrote: Arrgh When will I finally start remembering to change the recipient when I reply to a message?! Why don't Debian lists change the Reply-To? Use an email client which knows how to handle mailing lists. I for one shifted from thunderbird to kmail because of this problem and never regretted the shift. In kmail you can use l for reply to list, r for reply to the sender, a for reply to all. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ratpoison install error
On 5/29/06, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm running Debian testing release and got this error when installing ratpoison: Setting up ratpoison (1.4.0-beta4-10) ... error in control file: `Index' value missing for format `info' at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 709, /usr/share/doc-base/ratpoison line 8. Cannot be reproduced on Debian unstable machine. It is either a problem with testing or your mirrors are not up to date! $dpkg -l ratpoison ii ratpoison 1.4.0.dfsg-2 keyboard-only window manager You have new mail in /var/mail/rajulocal hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is www.debian.org/users still relevant?
On Monday 29 May 2006 06:57, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Hi, I was looking at www.debian.org/users and wondered if these users are still using Debian or if it's more of a historical tale. No. This list is being actively maintained. You can add yourself to the list (if applicable) by sending an email to debian-www@lists.debian.org with a subject Who's using Debian. Sometimes what could happen is, over the time, the people who are on the list might have shifted to other OSs and did not inform debian-www of such a change. In such case, I think, the entries are not removed since debian-www is not aware of the migration. Does anyone care about this page and when last was it updated? This information is on the bottom of the page. Last time I checked, it is as follows: Last Modified: Sun, May 28 13:52:59 UTC 2006 hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome instead of KDE dialog in Firefox
On Monday 29 May 2006 17:08, Magnus Therning wrote: On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 03:41:39PM -0500, Kent West wrote: I'm running KDE, and when I save something from Firefox (an .iso, .wav file, etc), the Save dialog box looks decidedly Gnome-ish rather than KDE-ish. This Save dialog doesn't have a method for manually typing in a path, so I have to use the mouse to point-and-click through the entire directory tree; quite irritating. Konqueror uses KDE's Save dialog, so I think it's just Firefox that is askew. Any idea how to get Firefox to use KDE's Save dialog (or better, the Save dialog for whatever environment/wm is running)? Not really what you ask for but have you tried hitting Ctrl+L? If it's a GNOME dialogue it should give you a text box to enter a path... it even has completion. /M Though this solution is better it is still inferior to KDE's dialog. For example when trying to open a pdf file with say xpdf, one has to give the path as /usr/bin/xpdf. The moment one enters /usr/bin/ disk grinding starts and firefox tries to load the entire /usr/bin into memory. I think this gnome(?) behaviour is hard coded into firefox and is tough to change. Someone please prove me wrong! I switched to Konqueror completely just because of this problem. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to find right video card driver
On Sunday 28 May 2006 14:58, Joseph Smidt wrote: I am trying to figure out how to configure my xorg.conf file. Is there anywhere that shows the whole list of drivers that xorg recognises? Also how do you use lspci info to decide which driver is best? Thanks. What is your video card? If you provide that information, someone on this list can advice as to which driver you should use. Most video cards work with vesa driver but the performance could be sub-optimal. Install the package xserver-xorg-video-all and configure X using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg most likely dpkg-reconfigure will pick the right driver for you. If it does not pick the right driver then that would be a bug in dpkg-reconfigure. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logging out of ion window manager
I recently started using ion window manager. It is cool. But I could not find out how to log out of the window manager. There is no logout option in any of the menus. It is not discussed in 'man ion'. Google did not help. Is Ctrl-Alt-Backspace the only way to log out of this (otherwise nice) window manager? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logging out of ion window manager
On Sunday 28 May 2006 20:20, Joey Hess wrote: Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: I recently started using ion window manager. It is cool. But I could not find out how to log out of the window manager. There is no logout option in any of the menus. It is not discussed in 'man ion'. Google did not help. Is Ctrl-Alt-Backspace the only way to log out of this (otherwise nice) window manager? ion has a menu which f12 will bring up, you can exit it from there. Or just brin up the lua code prompt (meta+f3) and run ioncore.shutdown() :-) (This assumes you're running ion 2 or 3, 1 uses f11 or 12 or something to exit.) I am using ion3. F12 - session/exit did the trick. I just wish it involved less number of keystrokes than that. If I count F12-sestabetab it is a total of 7 key strokes. Compared to KDE's 3 clicks :-) thanks for the reply. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
window placement in kde
Currently whenever a new window is opened, kde decides where to place the new window. Instead of that, is it possible to give the control of placement of new window to the mouse, then move the mouse to the required position, place the window by left clicking on it? If KDE's window manager cannot do this, is there any other window manager that works with KDE and provides this functionality? I am using Debian sid, KDE 3.5.2 installed from sid repositories. I googled and searched in kcontrol options but could not find anything there. thanks for any pointers raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nxclient stopped working after xorg upgrade
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 00:05, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: After upgrading sid machine to the latest xorg, nxclient stopped working. Before the xorg upgrade nxclient used to work fine. Upgrading the nxlibs package did the trick. Now nxclient is working properly. For someone reading this through archives, here are the packages that were installed. $dpkg -l \*nx\* | grep -v lynx | grep ^ii ii freenx 0.4.4+0.4.5-4 The FreeNX application/thin-client server ba ii nxagent 1.4.92+1.5.0-11 NoMachine NX - nesting X server with roundtr ii nxclient 1.5.0-141 NoMachine NX Client and Libraries. ii nxdesktop1.4.92+1.5.0-11 NoMachine NX - nesting X server with roundtr ii nxlibs 1.4.92+1.5.0-11 NoMachine NX - common agent libraries hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are my posts so delayed??
On Thursday 25 May 2006 06:36, Digby Tarvin wrote: Just curious, Can anyone tell me why there seems to be a delay of about 12 hours between posting a message and seeing it appear on the list? It makes it really hard to contribute to a thread if the discussion is long over by the time my response to the original message appears... Or is everyone seeing the same time delay? Even my posts are delayed. I do not know the reason. I am sending this message on 4:56pm May 25, 2006 EDT. Let's see when it arrives on the list :-) raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which is the most stable desktop?
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 10:56, Joseph Smidt wrote: Which desktop is the most stable: gnome, kde, xfce, blackbox etc... ? KDE, icewm are reasonably stable. Have not tried others so cannot comment on them. In general, if you are using stable releases, all the destop environments or window managers should be stable enough. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can I safely remove gconf and gconf2?
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 17:18, Marc Shapiro wrote: I do NOT run gnome (or KDE), I use fvwm. I am trying to clean up my system and eliminate unnecessary packages. I have previously removed quite a few gnome applications, but some things remain. I note that gconfd-2 is running when I run top. Is this just a leftover from before I did my purge of gnome packages, or is it something that I actually need? [message snipped] There had been three other apps (eog, gizmo-project and glame) but, as I am not using them, I have already uninstalled them. Is there any reason that I should not be able to safely remove these packages? It would seem that gconf and gconf2 are the only things keeping all of these libs around. Can I let apt remove all of this? You do not need gconf or gconf2. You can safely purge them. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 Hard Drive installed: What Next?
On Wednesday 24 May 2006 12:07, Richard wrote: Q .What format option are a good standard ext3 or fat32 ? this second drive is for mp3, and doc's, archive emails...etc If you are planning to share this partition with windows and Linux then use fat32. If this partition is to be used exclusively in Linux then use ext3. The thing is, from windows, you can write to fat32 but you cannot write to ext3. fat32 : Can be read and written under Linux and windows. ext3 : Can be read in Linux and Windows. Cab be written in Linux. Cannot be written from windows. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nxclient stopped working after xorg upgrade
I installed freenx from deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ sid nx deb-src http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ sid nx $nxserver --version NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-45-SVN OS (GPL) Usage: nxserver option --passwd: Change password After upgrading sid machine to the latest xorg, nxclient stopped working. Before the xorg upgrade nxclient used to work fine. $dpkg -l xorg Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii xorg 7.0.19 X.Org X Window System $ /usr/NX/bin/nxclient --version NXCLIENT - Version 1.5.0-141 Copyright (C) 2001, 2005 NoMachine. See http://www.nomachine.com/ for more information. the errors that I am getting are NX 203 NXSSH running with pid: 6312 NX 285 Enabling check on switch command NX 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files NX 200 Connected to address: 128.253.28.128 on port: 22 NX 202 Authenticating user: nx NX 208 Using auth method: publickey HELLO NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-45-SVN OS (GPL) NX 105 hello NXCLIENT - Version 1.5.0 NX 134 Accepted protocol: 1.5.0 NX 105 SET SHELL_MODE SHELL NX 105 SET AUTH_MODE PASSWORD NX 105 login NX 101 User: rajulocal NX 102 Password: NX 103 Welcome to: kusumanchi user: rajulocal NX 105 listsession --user=rajulocal --status=suspended,running --geometry=1024x768x24+render --type=unix-kde NX 127 Sessions list of user 'rajulocal' for reconnect: Display Type Session ID Options Depth Screen Status Session Name --- - -- --- -- NX 148 Server capacity: not reached for user: rajulocal NX 105 startsession --session=[EMAIL PROTECTED] --type=unix-kde --cache=8M --images=32M --cookie=** --link=wan --kbtype=pc102/us --nodelay=1 --encryption=1 --backingstore=when_requested --geometry=1024x743 --media=0 --agent_server= --agent_user= agent_password=** --screeninfo=1024x743x24+render NX 1000 NXNODE - Version 1.4.0-45-SVN OS (GPL) NX 700 Session id: kusumanchi-1002-DA19813CDB235D7AB1DB3A3A382C8847 NX 705 Session display: 1002 NX 703 Session type: unix-kde NX 701 Proxy cookie: ed207da909407dbb5a5b30f8fe78b2cd NX 702 Proxy IP: 127.0.0.1 NX 706 Agent cookie: ed207da909407dbb5a5b30f8fe78b2cd NX 704 Session cache: unix-kde NX 707 SSL tunneling: 1 NX 1004 Error: Session did not start. NX 504 Session startup failed. NX 999 Bye Killed by signal 15. What could be wrong and how can I get nx up and running again? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mixing aptitude and synaptic
Is it OK to mix aptitude and synaptic? I know that it is not good to mix apt-get and aptitude. But what about using synaptic sometimes and aptitude sometimes? any suggestions?Please CC me on the replies as I am not subscribe to d-u. thanksraju
Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
On Saturday 22 April 2006 14:14, Steve Lamb wrote: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Well, debian is pretty obvious about its purpose. It's a link right from the front page. Maybe people should be choosing other distros if they don't like bullet item number one of the social contract. Debian without the social contract would be just another distro. In other words, there would be no point to using debian without the contract. Funny, the #1 point for most people is apt, not the social contract. #1 for *you* maybe. Include my name in the list of people for whom socila contract is the #1 point. I use debian because of its commitment to free software (which is part of social contract) not because it has apt or some other cool software. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good anti-virus software to use?
On Friday 21 April 2006 04:19, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Also linux viruses occur only very seldom -- probably because of linux's different security approach. Could it be because there are less number of desktop users using Linux than windows? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about building a Debian package
On Friday 21 April 2006 17:35, lmyho wrote: Assuming I can get the same version of source files from 1) downloading the source from its website, 2) apt-get source from the debian achieve, and to use dpkg-buildpackage to build the binary package myself for use. My question is: for the built binary package, is there any difference between using the source file from the debian archive to build it, and using the source file from its own website? There is! Debian packages might have some patches added to them in addition to the upstream source code. This can be due to various reasons. Off the top of my head, the reasons can include, (1) Disagrement between upstream and Debian maintainer (2) Patch sent upstream not yet included in the upstream source tree etc., The differences between upstream are usually stored in the .diff.gz file that you get when you 'apt-get source' the package. The .orig.tar.gz contains the actual upstream code. BTW, what package+version are you working on? hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
On Friday 21 April 2006 09:53, Chris Lale wrote: Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: 6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop Ubuntu wins over debian any moment. I don't follow this. Install just one package (KDE or Gnome) and you have an instant, fully functional desktop. The point is that, in Ubuntu, you do not need to do EVEN THAT single step. It will install gnome for you right away. It is basically a defaults question. The Debian guys felt that the default set up is to not have any DEs installed. The Ubuntu guys felt that it would be cool to install GNOME without bothering the user. Both have different goals and are targetted to different users. Both decisions are good. It is an issue with defaults. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
On Thursday 20 April 2006 05:19, Attila Horvath wrote: Dear Debians, I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive. What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN installations/distributions? Both are excellent distributions. Both have its advantages and their own disadvantages. We can only list the advantages and disadvantages of each. How much weight you give to each criterion varies from individual to individual. 1) multiple architecture support Debian wins over Ubuntu 2) Predicted releases Ubuntu wins over Debian 3) community support Both are reasonably good 4) Stability Very subjective. But I would go with Debian Stable at any point of time over Ubutnu's stable. 5) maintanence headaches (also known as having fun) In Debian, it depends on whether you are running stable/testing/unstable. See Q13 of http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html I am not competent enough to comment about Ubuntu's maintanence headaches. 6) Have something up and running in no time for a desktop Ubuntu wins over debian any moment. 7) Social contract, Constitution, adherence to strict policy, free software principles Debian wins over Ubuntu 8) What if the billionaire behind Ubuntu withdraws monetary support for Ubuntu? Nothing happens to Debian. You can imagine the state of Ubuntu! To conclude, both have their own core competencies. Whatever you can do in one, can be done in another (but the difficulty might vary). Give Debian a try and see if you like it. If you dont like it, let us know. That will atleast give us an idea of what it takes to attract new comers. -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: distributions: UBUNTU vs DEBIAN
On Thursday 20 April 2006 14:00, Peter Colton wrote: On Thursday 20 April 2006 16:29, Jeff wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Thursday 20 April 2006 02:19, Attila Horvath wrote: Dear Debians, I instaled UBUNTU only recently on my laptop to give it a test drive. What is the difference between UBUNTU and DEBIAN installations/distributions? I see where UBUNTU is derived from DEBIAN. How much of DEBIAN does UBUNTU incorporate or does it matter since UBUNTU accesses DEBIAN's repositories for package updates? hello Paul, here is a link to a video, its mark shuttelworth talk about the relationship of ubuntu and debian at debconf5 http://www.nixnuts.net/debconf5/mpeg1/0714/02-Ubuntu_Talk-Mark_Shuttleworth .mpeg That was a very good link you sent Peter. Very informative and now my respect for Ubuntu guys and for what Mark Shuttleworth is trying to do has grown manyfold! If all the Ubuntu patches make into Debian then that would be a huge boost for Debian! raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acroread, where are you my Acroread?
On Monday 17 April 2006 01:49, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 10:19:39PM -0700, Rob Blomquist wrote: I am trying to install this lovely non-OS reader for my PDFs, and I hear their is one apt-gettable, but I know not where it lay. I have as my sources, stable main, updates main, contrib, non-free, and sarge-backports. There is an acroread package in Christian Marillat's archives[1]. Is there something you need it for that xpdf/kpdf/evince cannot do? I am not the OP but there are couple of things acroread can do which others cannot. For example filling up forms is possible only in acroread. kpdf cannot rotate pages while acroread can ... raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vim packages lack help file
On Monday 17 April 2006 10:35, Anthony Campbell wrote: All the vim packages I've tried (vim, vim-gtk, vim-full) don't install a help file. There does not seem to be any separate package which supplies this. Is this a bug? $apt-cache search vim documentation jvim-doc - Documentation for jvim (Japanized VIM) vim-doc - Vi IMproved - HTML documentation vim-runtime - Vi IMproved - Runtime files vim-tiny - Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - compact version vimhelp-fr - Vi IMproved - Documentation files (French translation) So install vim-doc if you want the HTML documentation. Does that solve your problem? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: weird behavior getting source from a package
On Monday 17 April 2006 14:31, Sergio Cuéllar Valdés wrote: Why I am getting the source of another package ? Is this a repository problem ? apt-get problem ? or what ? This is not a problem. A single source package can be used to make multiple binary packages. muttprint package is the source package using which ospics binary package is made. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about
Re: fluent like software
On Sunday 16 April 2006 13:24, belahcene abdelkader wrote: hi, The fluent software is to expensive for our small institute, I am looking software which is around it, not necessary having all that properies. Assuming you are talking about fluent - the CFD flow modeling software, have you tried gerris? It is apt-gettable. There is also another open source CFD software called openfoam http://www.opencfd.co.uk/openfoam/ . But there are no debian packages for it. I had the same question couple of days back and the relevant discussion can be found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flumech/message/173 hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware Wiki
On Saturday 15 April 2006 04:15, Metrics wrote: Hi all, Is there a wiki somewhere where I can put my experiences installing Debian on my laptop, similar to the Gentoo wiki? I know of wiki.debian.org, but it doesn't seem to have an appropriate area. How about http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ I found it to be a very useful website when I wanted to install Debian on my laptop - Toshiba Satellite P25-s507. -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New user config questions
On Saturday 15 April 2006 17:56, Randy wrote: My main two starter questions are: 1. How can I change the video driver information and/or settings? I can only set it for 800 x 600 right now and it can do more. I don't know how to change what card it thinks is there and/or the driver for it. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 2. I only have a wireless and it didn't seem to see it, how do I get it to be seen? What is your wireless card? Model of the wireless card can be found by 'lspci -vv' -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thursday 13 April 2006 07:36, ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote: I agree, but only partially. look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more than unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g. K3b was absent from testing for many months!)). SID appears to be the best choice for Debian desktop (regardless to what official policy states) and as such it is chosen by many. It does not matter what your reasons for running unstable are. But unstable is what it is - unstable. Problems like these always come up. If you are not happy with problems arising due to the nature of unstable, please use Stable. period. Just because someone is running unstable for 1 year without any problems, does not guarantee that it will not have any problems in the next year. Problems can arise on ANY given day. Finally, to all those people, who keep referring unstable for newbies - situations like this should be kept in mind. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 23:47, Ron Johnson wrote: With a u, you mean, of course... No, the *right* way. Slow learners *and* bad spellers. Sheesh... No wonder your empire fell apart. Hi Ron Johnson That is very rude to say on a public mailing list. I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion. May be you are right and may be you are wrong. But this could potentially result in flame wars. May be you meant it in a funny way! But this is taking it too far. Not everyone might take it as you intended it to. BTW, I am not british and I would have written this same email if you were to express your opinions about some other country. The point is debian-user is about helping Debian users and this kind of name calling is uncalled for. I hope you understand and I am very sorry if you are offended by this email. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THERE A MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 05:18, tom arnall wrote: what is a 'top-poster'? Question 5 Avoid top posting and delete unnecessary stuff in the previous email in http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html answers your question. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Experimenting with Debian
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 18:10, Michael M. wrote: Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.ht ml Excellent FAQ I think. Thanks! You might want to update #17: Currently Debian does not offer any security updates to testing or unstable. So make sure that you remove the lines relating to security updates of stable in /etc/apt/sources.list . Debian does have security updates for testing now. I am unaware of this. Could you please answer the following questions. For a user running stable and thinking of shifting to testing, What are the changes to be done (in terms of getting security support)? Is the security suport for testing distribution officially supported by Debian? For example, backports is not officially supported. Though many stable users are very content with it. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Experimenting with Debian
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 11:31, Toby Satchell wrote: Hi, I am setting up a dual boot with debian and want to experiment with it as a desktop. I am wondering which would be the best version to go for, Stable, Testing , Unstable. I run Stable at the moment with for a server, but wondering if testing would be a better option for a desktop as I would also like to implement steam under wine(and the other one I can't remember at the moment) Can somebody with some experience please offer some advice. This used to be a frequent question on this list and I had the same questions when I started using Debian. So I wrote an FAQ on this which can be found at http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html After reading this, if you have more questions, please let me know. Then I will change the FAQ accordingly. Input from new users is very important for such FAQs. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 17:40, Ron Johnson wrote: .us = 300,000,000 .uk + .ca + .au + .nz = 60,600,000 + 33,000,000 + 20,200,000 + 4,100,000 = 117,900,000 We win... India uses colour (follows British way when it comes to spelling). Population of India is around 1,000,000,000. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thunderbird - kmail
Hi I am considering shifting from thunderbird to kmail . I have tried kmail but could not figure out couple of things. I am wondering if kmail has support for the following things? 1) Reply to list support In thunderbird, It is either Reply or Reply to All. Does kmail do a better job in this regard or is it as lame as thunderbird? 2) Using other editors I would like to use vim or gvim to compose my emails. Currently thunderbird does not have any facility to use a custom editor. Does kmail have this feature? 3) Thread support Is it possible to sort the messages by threads instead of date/sender etc., This is possible in thunderbird. But I could not figure out how to do this in kmail. 4) Spam and Junk mail control Thunderbird has very good support in terms of spam filtering. It can even adapt its spam filters as time goes on. How good is kmail in terms of spam filtering? I am not planning to use spamassassin etc., I am looking for in-built spam controls. Now before any one jumps in and says to use mutt, I am considering only graphical clients and one which integrates well with other PIM stuff like konqueror, kaddressbook, korganizer etc., So mutt is out of question. I have only KDE and there is no gnome. So Evolution is out of question. Using Debian KDE 3.5.2 thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thunderbird - kmail
On Monday 10 April 2006 14:36, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: Hi I am considering shifting from thunderbird to kmail . I have tried kmail but could not figure out couple of things. I am wondering if kmail has support for the following things? Thanks Frank. I finally made the move and am happy with the change. I solved many of the problems. I am answering my own questions here for the sake of archives. 1) Reply to list support In thunderbird, It is either Reply or Reply to All. Does kmail do a better job in this regard or is it as lame as thunderbird? Wow! Kmail's mailing list support is more than what I dreamed of. There is reply to list feature. Filtering based on mailing lists is a breeze. 2) Using other editors I would like to use vim or gvim to compose my emails. Currently thunderbird does not have any facility to use a custom editor. Does kmail have this feature? Just follow http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=302 The basic idea is to use gvim -f %f Currently kvim is not available in Debian, unstable. So one has to be content with gvim or use the default composer of kmail. 3) Thread support Is it possible to sort the messages by threads instead of date/sender etc., This is possible in thunderbird. But I could not figure out how to do this in kmail. There is thread support. To get thunderbird's behavior I had to do Folder - Thread messages. Then click on Date (Order of Arrival). That's it. 4) Spam and Junk mail control Thunderbird has very good support in terms of spam filtering. It can even adapt its spam filters as time goes on. How good is kmail in terms of spam filtering? I am not planning to use spamassassin etc., I am looking for in-built spam controls. Kmail as such does not come with any spam filtering support. One has to use programs such as spamassasin, bogo filter, Annoyance filter etc., The idea is to use programs which are good at filtering spam rather than making kmail do it. Close to Unix philosophy I think! After reading the help on Tools - Anti-Spam Wizard , I settled onto bogo filter. Cant say anything about its performance right now. But I hope it is good. Overall, in three words - kmail is great! Dont know if I will change my opinion and go back to thunderbird in future. But for now Kmail rocks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thunderbird - kmail
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 00:23, Michael M. wrote: Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Wow! Kmail's mailing list support is more than what I dreamed of. There is reply to list feature. Filtering based on mailing lists is a breeze. Out of curiosity, how is it easier to filter on mailing lists in Kmail than in Thunderbird? I use the List ID field for my Tbird mailing list filters. I just didn't think it got any easier. :-) I am counting the number of key strokes and/or mouse clicks to set up a filter. In kmail all I had to was Message - Create Filter - Filter on Mailing-list debian-user and almost all the stuff is already filled up. Are you sure Tbird has List ID field? I could not find any. I always used To or CC. Where did you find List ID in Tbird? I am using Debian Unstable, thunderbird 1.5. Are you using the same versions? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
edit text files as root
According to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#rootedit , In Ubuntu one can edit the text files as root using the Edit as Root option. But I could not find this option in Debian unstable KDE 3.5.2 . How can I achieve this behavior in Debian as well? thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: edit text files as root
David Clymer wrote: On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 18:01 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: According to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#rootedit , In Ubuntu one can edit the text files as root using the Edit as Root option. But I could not find this option in Debian unstable KDE 3.5.2 . How can I achieve this behavior in Debian as well? kdesu kate name of file from the command line should work. But that is from command line. I was looking for something that works from say konqueror. However, if you are looking for a context menu option, you may have to add that yourself. I'm not a KDE user, so I forget how to do this offhand. If you right click on the file you are attempting to edit, I'm guessing you'll see an open with option that may allow you to specify a command to use to open that type of file. If you specify 'kdesu kate %f' it might work. This is of no use because, let's say I am editing a file called file.txt which is associated with, say, gvim. I want to use root permissions on *.txt only when necessary. If I use your method, then kdesu will be invoked with root permission even when it is not necessary. For example to edit /etc/file.txt , I probably want to use root permission. But to edit ~/file.txt I do not need root permissions. I can edit as a normal user itself. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: edit text files as root
Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 18:01 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: According to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#rootedit , In Ubuntu one can edit the text files as root using the Edit as Root option. But I could not find this option in Debian unstable KDE 3.5.2 . How can I achieve this behavior in Debian as well? Leave the Dark Dide, return to console, The One True Interface. I should have mentioned in my original email that I know how to do this from command line and am looking for ways to do this in konqueror like GUI environment. I thought this would be clear from the FAQ link I referenced. But apparently the hint is not subtle enough! BTW in case some one has not read http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/LXF67.fight.pdf I found it very funny! The great command line vs GUI debate, now turned into a battle! raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Problem with Etch
Clyde Wilson wrote: I've just installed Etch and I can't get X up. Under Sarge I used VESA for my driver and that worked fine. The Etch installer doesn't seem to give me a choice. I changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand to vesa but X will not recognize this. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Insufficient information. What is your video card? What are the error messages that you are seeing? Are there any errors in /var/log/XFree86.0.log ? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm very new to Linux. I've installed Debian on my PowerPC, and I'd like to use the Gnome interface. I installed Gnome, but I can't figure out how to use it. I still see the black and white Debian console. I've searched through my directories trying to find some file that will start Gnome, but I've found nothing. Do you know how I start it? Thanks Shawn In the console, enter your login name and password. After that, at the command prompt enter startx. If everything is configured properly, then you should see gnome up and running. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
not able to install kio-locate
I downloaded kio-locate_0.4.5-1_i386.deb from http://arminstraub.de/browse.php?page=programs_kiolocatelang=en . But I am unable to install it on Debian Sid running kde 3.5.2. The exact errors are $sudo dpkg -i kio-locate_0.4.5-1_i386.deb Selecting previously deselected package kio-locate. (Reading database ... 264885 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kio-locate (from kio-locate_0.4.5-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kio-locate: kio-locate depends on kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.2-1); however: Package kdelibs4c2 is not installed. dpkg: error processing kio-locate (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: kio-locate The website http://arminstraub.de/browse.php?page=programs_kiolocatelang=en does not tell where to report the problems. So I thought I would ask on d-u if other users were able to solve this problem and offer some suggestions. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: not able to install kio-locate
Stephen Cormier wrote: On Saturday 08 April 2006 00:18, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: I downloaded kio-locate_0.4.5-1_i386.deb from http://arminstraub.de/browse.php?page=programs_kiolocatelang=en . But I am unable to install it on Debian Sid running kde 3.5.2. The exact errors are $sudo dpkg -i kio-locate_0.4.5-1_i386.deb Selecting previously deselected package kio-locate. (Reading database ... 264885 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kio-locate (from kio-locate_0.4.5-1_i386.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kio-locate: kio-locate depends on kdelibs4c2 (= 4:3.4.2-1); however: Package kdelibs4c2 is not installed. dpkg: error processing kio-locate (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: kio-locate The website http://arminstraub.de/browse.php?page=programs_kiolocatelang=en does not tell where to report the problems. So I thought I would ask on d-u if other users were able to solve this problem and offer some suggestions. Download and unpack the file http://arminstraub.de/downloads/kio-locate/kio-locate_0.4.5.tar.gz change into the directory that will be created. Now run the command fakeroot debian/rules binary without the and it should build the package for you to install if you have the qt and kde -dev files installed along with build-essential. The problem you are having is the .deb is the kdelibs is at version/name kdelibs4c2a on your machine where it is looking for kdelibs4c2 to be installed. I have linked (1) the output of building the package I just did here if you want to check and see what it will look for if you try too build it yourself. (1) http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/kio-locate-build.txt Thanks for the reply. I will use this as the last option. Hopefully the developers of the kio-locate sees my email and possibly fix that problem in the .deb file. After all, the whole purpose of providing the .deb file is to save the time of compilation for users. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem Network and installation of Debian ETCH beta2 for AMD64/EM64T (testing)
2) Don't be sent to a shell at the end of the installation, but to the GUI (Gnome, KDE, etc) ? Please see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/324 raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to config x server?
Paul de Baat wrote: How can I config the x server? Which distribution are you running - Sarge/Etch/Sid? Which X server are you running - XFree86/Xorg? What is your video card? Most likely the command you are looking for is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to config x server?
kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: Paul de Baat wrote: How can I config the x server? Which distribution are you running - Sarge/Etch/Sid? Which X server are you running - XFree86/Xorg? What is your video card? Most likely the command you are looking for is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 raju I forgot to tell you in the previous email. There is some documentation on this issue at http://wiki.debian.org/configureX This is not complete. But if you tell us more about your system, we can help you better. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
get pdf info from command line
From command line, Is there any way to find the number of pages a pdf file has? Using Sid, KDE 3.5.2 thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get install elinks
Jeroen Brandwijk wrote: wiske:~# apt-get install elinks Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: elinks: Depends: libperl5.8 (= 5.8.4) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages wiske:/home/jeroen-test# reportbug `apt-get install elinks` E: Broken packages bash: reportbug: command not found Problem unreproducible on unstable machine. $wajig install elinks Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Suggested packages: smbclient The following NEW packages will be installed: elinks 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 822 not upgraded. Need to get 1341kB of archives. After unpacking 3383kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main elinks 0.10.6-1 [1341kB] Fetched 1341kB in 3s (438kB/s) Reading package fields... Done Reading package status... Done Retrieving bug reports... Done Selecting previously deselected package elinks. (Reading database ... 264793 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking elinks (from .../elinks_0.10.6-1_i386.deb) ... Setting up elinks (0.10.6-1) ... hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kudos to authors of kompose
Luis Finotti wrote: Hi, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: I just discovered this great little program called kompose which is a task manager for KDE. It just made my day! If you are a KDE user and usually open a lot of windows while working, kompose is just for you. Good bye Alt+Tab, Welcome Win+Tab :-) hth raju Thanks for the info. It seems nice and it's a good idea, but it made the desktop switching a bit too slow... (It takes a longer to draw the windows.) And I'm running an Athlon XP 2800+ with 1Gb of memory... (Not too great, but it's not that bad either.) Do you experience something similar? Only when kompose is launched for the first time, it takes some time create the screenshots. The second time onwards it is very much instantaneous. I am using it on a P4 2.8 GHz, 1GB Ram. Which version of KDE are you using? I am using 3.5.2 from unstable. hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Ubuntu when I'm used to Debian.
Hal Vaughan wrote: Every time someone suggests something that makes an install easier or an easier config method, there is always hostility in this group and elsewhere. Do you have some examples? I do not agree with this at all. What is easier for you might not actually be the correct thing to do. It might introduce additional problems which are difficult to solve. That does not mean that people are hostile to you. Just because your suggestions are not implemented, does not mean anything. Before someone comes up with statements like above, just ask yourselves one question - 'Has this idea not occurred to developers till now?' Chances are that they thought about it before and abandoned the idea. Every time I made some suggestions, they were received very enthusiastically. Some of them are very stupid - like for example, I thought of creating a separate google group to avoid spam and many showed how stupid that can actually be. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/04/msg00164.html That does not mean that people were hostile to me. Finally, if someone did not implement your suggestions, you can always fork the development and implement them on your own and show that it in fact can be done better. After all, that is what free software is all about. Anyone can make suggestions. It is the code that matters in the end. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filename prefixes while transfering images from memory cards
H.S. wrote: Hi, In gtkam, and maybe also in digikam, when we connect a camera and download images to the hard disk, we can specify the destination folder and also filename prefixes (along with dates IIRC) and get appropriate image file names, e.g. 20060404_funpicnic.jpg. This is very helpful in sorting the pictures. I was wondering, can this be done when I am transfering images from a memory card (through a card reader) instead of from a camera directly? -HS Adding a prefix to all the files in a directory is as easy as for i in *; do mv $i prefix$i; done (tested under bash). So one approach is to copy the files from the memory card to a temporary directory and run the above command. More such goodies can be learned by reading The Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide (apt-get install abs-guide). Does that help solve your problem? raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups
Bruno Buys wrote: kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: Hi all IMHO debian lists are the sources of a lot of spam these days. Over the past few years that I have been using Debian, the list masters were not able to eradicate the spam problem on these lists. I agree that they have been doing a great job in filtering out spam. But If I look into my gmail spam folder, most of the spam emails are addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where xxx are the debian lists that I am subscribed to. I was thinking what I could do to eradicate this problem and thought that creating google groups is an option. But the disadvantages with google groups is that (1) It will split the user base across d-u and yyy (where yyy is the name of the new google group). (2) google is a company and I am not very sure if relying on a service provided by commercial companies would be a good idea in the long run. (3) It requires a google/gmail account. But IMHO, the effort spent in creating a gmail/google account is well justified, if you want to have a spam free mailing list, The advantages I see are (1) A web interface to subscribe/unsubscribe and change mail/digest/no email options. So we will not see those unsubscribe emails. (2) If we set 'only members can post', it removes the spam problem. Currently the lists are spammed because anyone can post to the mailing list without subscription and the spammers are taking advantage of it. Is there anything that can be done with lists.debian.org that cannot be done through google groups? Please feel free to express your opinions on this issue. If enough users feel that this is a good idea, I am willing to create and moderate that group. Also, if you like the idea, suggest some names for the google group. raju Raju, The lists are spammed, I agree. But being able to post without subscription is part of the openness Debian wants to achieve. This was probably born when spam was no concern. I don't think *moving* the lists to a group is a good idea, though you can always create a Debian user group at gmail groups. I'd happily participate. But going official is another thing. Isn't filtering spam locally an option? I also do not think moving the lists to google group is such a good idea. If at all I create this, it would coexist along with d-u. d-u will still be there and will function just like as it would otherwise. People who are happy with Google's TOS will subscribe otherwise they can still continue in d-u. Regarding filtering spam, that is definitely an option. That is what we all have been doing all these days. But the idea is to not receive them in the first place by setting 'only members can post' option. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia - what is preferred installation route
michael wrote: I was wondering whether there's a preferred installation method for drivers for nVidia graphics card (just got a GeForce FX 5200) for my IA32 box? eg is http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt still current/best or perhaps nVidia's own info http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8178.html Thanks, I have exactly the same card. I tried nvidia installer before. But I find module-assistant approach much more easy and clean. You should also take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?highlight=%28nvidia%29 which explains all the approaches very clearly. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups
John Hasler wrote: raju writes: Is there anything that can be done with lists.debian.org that cannot be done through google groups? Is there anything that can be done with google groups that cannot be done through lists.debian.org? Can be done - no. Will be done - yes. 1) In google groups, we can set 'only members can post' option. This can be done with lists.debian.org as well. But listsmasters' decision is to not do it. 2) The email addresses from d-u archives are available in clear text. This is another source of spam (as the spammers frequently scan through the arhives and look for email IDs). In google groups, the email addresses are not displayed in the archives. But at the same time, it wont deprive you of anything. One can still contact the original author if there is a need. Again this could possibly be done in lists.debian.org as well. But my understanding is that the listmasters' chose not to do it. The second point is very important IMHO. Just create a new email address. Subscribe to d-u. Wait for 4-5 days. Look at the amazing amount of spam you get. Now create another email address. Subscribe to some high volume, 'only members can post' google groups. Wait for 4-5 days. Look at the spam you receive. You will see what I mean. raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
forward newsgroup messages to mailing lists
Hi all My actual problem is to forward the messages that appear in news groups http://groups.google.com/group/cornell.marketplace/ http://groups.google.com/group/ithaca.marketplace/ http://groups.google.com/group/ithaca.general/ etc., to a mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar . Upon searching google I found that, I need a news2mail program which is available in newsgate package for Debian. But the documentation is very tough to understand for me. So my question is are there some kind of HOWTOs which explain stuff more clearly as to how to do this? Is there a better approach for this problem than news2mail? The cornell-bazaar mailing list is a moderated mailing list where as the news groups are unmoderated. Will that present any particular problems? Do I need to have a machine up and running 24/7 for news2mail to work properly or is it OK if the machine switches off once in a while. What happens to the messages that are posted to news groups when this machine is switched off? Any ideas and pointers to documentation (hopefully comprehensible) are welcome. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups
Pascal Hakim wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 10:21:47AM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: John Hasler wrote: raju writes: Is there anything that can be done with lists.debian.org that cannot be done through google groups? Is there anything that can be done with google groups that cannot be done through lists.debian.org? Can be done - no. Will be done - yes. 1) In google groups, we can set 'only members can post' option. This can be done with lists.debian.org as well. But listsmasters' decision is to not do it. This hasn't been done as we want people to be able to contribute as easily as possible. Emails that come from non-subscribers are placed through an extra spam check (the one we call crossassassin), which is actually quite effective. It's stopped 590 spam emails from being posted in the 65 hours. Is the crossassassin something specific to d-u or is it used for all the lists on lists.debian.org? I ask because, some lists like debian-www receive much more spam from non-subscribers than the amount of non-subscriber spam received by d-u. thanks raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lists.debian.org vs google groups
Hi all IMHO debian lists are the sources of a lot of spam these days. Over the past few years that I have been using Debian, the list masters were not able to eradicate the spam problem on these lists. I agree that they have been doing a great job in filtering out spam. But If I look into my gmail spam folder, most of the spam emails are addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where xxx are the debian lists that I am subscribed to. I was thinking what I could do to eradicate this problem and thought that creating google groups is an option. But the disadvantages with google groups is that (1) It will split the user base across d-u and yyy (where yyy is the name of the new google group). (2) google is a company and I am not very sure if relying on a service provided by commercial companies would be a good idea in the long run. (3) It requires a google/gmail account. But IMHO, the effort spent in creating a gmail/google account is well justified, if you want to have a spam free mailing list, The advantages I see are (1) A web interface to subscribe/unsubscribe and change mail/digest/no email options. So we will not see those unsubscribe emails. (2) If we set 'only members can post', it removes the spam problem. Currently the lists are spammed because anyone can post to the mailing list without subscription and the spammers are taking advantage of it. Is there anything that can be done with lists.debian.org that cannot be done through google groups? Please feel free to express your opinions on this issue. If enough users feel that this is a good idea, I am willing to create and moderate that group. Also, if you like the idea, suggest some names for the google group. raju -- http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/ http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kudos to authors of kompose
I just discovered this great little program called kompose which is a task manager for KDE. It just made my day! If you are a KDE user and usually open a lot of windows while working, kompose is just for you. Good bye Alt+Tab, Welcome Win+Tab :-) hth raju -- http://kamaraju.googlepages.com/cornell-bazaar http://groups.google.com/group/cornell-bazaar/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
