Re: installer can't detect my usb adapter

2023-01-02 Thread lou

On 1/3/23 08:41, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:




Which installation medium are you using? I have a RealTek WiFi adapter 
and it requires the non-free installer for binary blobs to work.


https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.6.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/

Tim

Thank Tim, i use debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso, i don't use unofficial 
images


after recognition it shall prompt me for non-free firmware, but it can't 
recognize it




installer can't detect my usb adapter

2023-01-02 Thread lou

i have realtek 8188eus usb adapter, it works in buster

but after reboot, it can't be recognized, i have to unplug and plug usb 
adapter to help detection. this isn't big inconvenience for me because i 
rarely reboot


my problem is bullseye installer can't detect it even after i unplug and 
plug it. i run "modprobe r8188eu" in installer's terminal, it doesn't  
help detection. lsusb command doesn't exist. if wifi isn't setup by 
installer, then i am unable to setup it after installation because of 
some debian bug




Re: problem with loading installer (hard disk method)

2022-12-29 Thread lou

Thank Brian and Max!

On 12/30/22 01:42, Brian wrote:

Two problems encountered. Two problems resolved in an unknown
way.


i suppose many users here are expert, explanation isn't necessary. hard 
disk installation method doesn't work, usually because user or i make 
mistake



I doubt GRUB would act on  (hd0,partition1).


two options count from 0 and 1 respectively, it's easy to make mistake 
here. if same counting convention and better names are used, user can 
edit them without reading grub manual


Max has provided helpful info for me. for many users and me, writing iso 
image to usb stick is easier than booting with grub




Re: problem with loading installer (hard disk method)

2022-12-28 Thread lou

i have solved my 2nd problem on my own, thanks anyway!

but i am not sure where i go wrong last time

i have 2 suggestions:

1st, (hd0,msdos1) in installation manual is too mysterious, i suggest adding 
some explanation

2nd, option name msdos1 in grub is too misleading, i suggest changing it to 
partition1






Re: problem with loading installer (hard disk method)

2022-12-28 Thread lou

Thank Max, but i have solved my problem on my own

but i have other problem, installer says

possible mismatch version between iso file and kernel

i have downloaded  debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso at vfat sda1

i prefer site http://ftp.sunet.se/debian/

which vmlinuz and initrd set shall i use?

btw imo hard disk method is very error prone




problem with loading installer (hard disk method)

2022-12-28 Thread lou

menuentry 'New Install' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
linux /boot/newinstall/vmlinuz
initrd /boot/newinstall/initrd.gz
}

above is from installation manual, i use it, grub says can't find vmlinuz
i boot installer from buster, installed at sda4,
i wonder if i shall change hd0 to hd3 in line 4 above


Re: no sound after installing pulseaudio

2022-12-23 Thread lou
Christoph, your "pactl list" command didn't work because i didn't reboot 
buster after installing pulseaudio, Thanks anyway!





Re: no sound after installing pulseaudio

2022-12-23 Thread lou

Thank Jude!

i try your command anyway though i have said i give up

i install pulseaudio again and have to reboot to get it to work

then i run your command, it solves my problem, Thanks!




Re: no sound after installing pulseaudio

2022-12-23 Thread lou

Thank Christoph and Andrew!

i can use stretch if i need pulseaudio

my problem is so strange that i give up

ps: Andrew, my experience shows that new isn't always better than old. 
many wifi adapter makers on Chinese market today support Windows XP for 
their new products




Re: no sound after installing pulseaudio

2022-12-23 Thread lou

Thank Jude and Christoph!

i run "pactl list":

Connection failure: Connection refused
pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused

but in stretch, pulseaudio works after i install it




no sound after installing pulseaudio

2022-12-22 Thread lou

i am running buster and install pulseaudio

to let pulseaudio take effect i have to reboot

but there's no sound though pavucontrol seems ok

(pavucontrol shows sound is playing properly)

to get sound back, i have to remove pulseaudio and reboot

Thanks!



Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-12 Thread lou

Thank David Wright!

"wpa_cli status" is handy for me



Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-11 Thread lou



On 6/11/22 7:00 PM, Brian wrote:


You are associating with a wireless access point. You must be using
wpasupplicant. Have you tried installing wpagui?



Thanks, wpagui seems to work for me.



Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-11 Thread lou

On 6/11/22 4:57 PM, Brian wrote:


You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant.



Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE.



Thanks, but i use ifup/ifdown (not wpasupplicant) to manage network 
connection.




Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread lou



On 6/10/22 4:12 PM, Stanislav Vlasov wrote:

пт, 10 июн. 2022 г. в 05:12, lou :

i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network
name (wpa-ssid)

You may try gkrellm with gkrellmwireless plugin
I don't use it some years, so it may be wrong answer.


hopefully it doesn't depend on qt as i don't use kde ( i use twm for buster)

It is DE-independed.



Thanks!

i try "gkrellm --plugin /usr/lib/gkrellm2/wireless.so"

it doesn't work as i have hoped for



which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-09 Thread lou
i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network 
name (wpa-ssid)


hopefully it doesn't depend on qt as i don't use kde ( i use twm for buster)

Thanks!



Re: which program can show X/Y position of mouse pointer

2022-05-11 Thread lou



Thank Michael Lange!

it's what i need, and it works fine in twm

no wonder python is so popular these days

PS: why isn't there some existing application that can do this job? is 
my need too special?




Re: which program can show X/Y position of mouse pointer

2022-05-09 Thread lou



On 5/9/22 9:21 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

No, I've never used twm. fvwm, sawmill/sawfish, and xfwm can all
do that. Probably most others.

-dsr-



Thanks! i have success with icewm, not with fvwm

xeyes knows mouse movement, it's too bad it doesn't show X/Y coordinates




Re: which program can show X/Y position of mouse pointer

2022-05-09 Thread lou



On 5/9/22 7:09 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

xdotool getmouselocation



Thanks!

are you sure that xterm can be made always-on-top in twm?



which program can show X/Y position of mouse pointer

2022-05-09 Thread lou

i use twm for bullseye

i want to record screen with ffmpeg, it allows me to select some region 
of screen


i need a program that can display X/Y coordinates of mouse pointer as i 
move mouse




Re: how to install zoom for bullseye for i386

2022-04-30 Thread lou



it seems i have solved it with 'apt --fix-broken install'

Thanks anyway!



how to install zoom for bullseye for i386

2022-04-30 Thread lou

i download  zoom_i386.deb from zoom.us and run dpkg -i:

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of zoom:
 zoom depends on libgl1-mesa-glx; however:
  Package libgl1-mesa-glx is not installed.
 zoom depends on libegl1-mesa; however:
  Package libegl1-mesa is not installed.
 zoom depends on libxcb-xtest0; however:
  Package libxcb-xtest0 is not installed.
 zoom depends on ibus; however:
  Package ibus is not installed.

then i run "apt install libgl1-mesa-glx":

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 zoom : Depends: libegl1-mesa but it is not going to be installed
    Depends: libxcb-xtest0 but it is not going to be installed
    Depends: ibus but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages 
(or specify a  solution)

root@debian:~#




Re: why some wifi connection method is better than other

2022-04-03 Thread lou



Thank tomas!

i'm mistaken, gnome can't connect to weak wifi network too

though cell phone can use it, but it's unstable, sometime it disconnects





Re: why some wifi connection method is better than other

2022-04-02 Thread lou

Thanks!

it's same hardware, bullseye is in hard disk while opensuse live image 
is copied to usb disk




Re: how to join 2 video files with ffmpeg or mencoder

2022-03-20 Thread lou



Thank tomas!

it seems i have used wrong keywords

with "ffmpeg concatenate" as keywords, bing.com can return desired url

duckduckgo.com seems blocked in china



Re: how to join 2 video files with ffmpeg or mencoder

2022-03-20 Thread lou

Thank Pankaj Jangid and Teemu Likonen!

it's more complicated than i thought

from https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate

ffmpeg -i input1.mp4 -c copy -bsf:v h264_mp4toannexb -f mpegts intermediate1.ts
ffmpeg -i input2.mp4 -c copy -bsf:v h264_mp4toannexb -f mpegts intermediate2.ts
ffmpeg -i "concat:intermediate1.ts|intermediate2.ts" -c copy -bsf:a 
aac_adtstoasc output.mp4

these three commands work for me

but "ffmpeg -f concat -safe 0 -i list.txt -c copy ready.mp4" doesn't work

i have used bing.com to search answer, but it doesn't show 
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate on 1st page



how to join 2 video files with ffmpeg or mencoder

2022-03-20 Thread lou

i have 2 video files, they are of same format

because they are both created by android's screen recorder

and then resized with same ffmpeg command to reduce file size

now i want to concatenate them with ffmpeg or mencoder

how to specify options using either command? Thanks!



Re: why pdf viewer is missing in firefox for bullseye?

2022-02-05 Thread lou

Thank Cater!

actually firefox for debian 11 can view my local pdf file

maybe those web sites with PDF files set MIME type 
 
incorrectly





why pdf viewer is missing in firefox for bullseye?

2022-02-05 Thread lou

how to install pdf plugin?

firefox for old debian distro can open pdf file





Re: why copying big file fails?

2022-01-31 Thread lou
Thank Michael! i install go-mtpfs for i386 and it can copy 4G file, and 
i can check progress with "ls -l"


strange thing about go-mtpfs is you'd better add & at end of command

go-mtpfs seems faster than jmtpfs



Re: is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-22 Thread lou

Thank Andrei and David!

i've tried, it doesn't work, i give up

if install by copy is complicated, i won't do it that way

instead, i just install as usual



is it possible to install bullseye by copy whole disk?

2022-01-21 Thread lou

i've installed bullseye on usb disk

can i copy it to hard disk (sda2) and make necessary change in 
/etc/fstab and


then update grub of usb disk to boot sda2?

Thanks!



Re: why i can't download debian-live-10.11.0-i386-gnome.iso?

2021-12-01 Thread lou

Thank Keith and David!

Sorry,  i've not been able to receive replies from both of you on time 
because of mail service problem




Re: why i can't download debian-live-10.11.0-i386-gnome.iso?

2021-12-01 Thread lou



Thank Dan and Stefan!

file system is ext3, it has no 2G limit IMO

i've installed curl, it doesn't have such bug



why i can't download debian-live-10.11.0-i386-gnome.iso?

2021-12-01 Thread lou

http://ftp.sunet.se/cdimage/archive/10.11.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/

i use wget to download, length is 2G though ftp.sunet.se shows 2.6G

ftp.funet.fi has same problem, live gnome image is more than 2G, i can't 
get it with wget


http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/mirrors/debian-cdimage/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/



Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread lou



Thank David, you have better memory than i

my memory is poor because of insomnia





Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-28 Thread lou

Thank David!

i want info about wifi adapters supported by kernel without using 
non-free firmware.


i haven't been able to find such info in linux-doc

yes, search for such info isn't easy, i give up

many web pages have stories of linux users' success with wifi adapter

but they might use non-free firmware

BTW both opensuse and fedora include non-free firmware in their official 
images


they r so serious about open source that they don't include mp3 player 
(you have to use 3rd party repositories)


i think debian shall re-consider its policy on non-free firmware




Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-26 Thread lou


On 11/26/21 11:08 AM, Christian Britz wrote:

Christian Britz wrote:

This actually works recursively with the zgrep command from the zutils
package, thank you!

And still it doesn't find the file mentioned by deloptes, amazing! :-D




Thanks to all that reply!

WUSB-Design-overview.txt is available in linux doc 4.9, not in 5.10



Re: where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-25 Thread lou

sorry, i use wrong word

i mean wifi adapter, not wifi card

in Chinese, it's called wireless card, though it's really USB wifi adapter



where to find wifi card info in linux-doc

2021-11-24 Thread lou

i've installed linux-doc for bullseye

 i browse /usr/share/doc/linux-doc, but can't find info about wifi card

i want info about wifi cards supported by kernel

Thanks!



Re: Debian

2021-10-19 Thread lou



On 10/19/21 8:13 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
No, that's fully believable. It's a fairly specialized knowledge 
set,which a Computer Science student may not possess.

What's more worrying is the vagueness of the help request.  You'd think
such a student would provide at least a modicum of detail, like which
model computer they're using, which version of Debian they tried to
download (and install??) and what the error message said.



i think he/she is CS student pursuing Master degree

deian/linux is mature product, documentation/howto abounds on Internet



Re: Debian

2021-10-19 Thread lou

On 19/10/2021 12:11, courtneyxshort wrote:

I am a Computer Science Masters student and part of my degree involves
me downloading Debian on my Mac. I have tried this countless times and I
have been unsuccessful. I've watched Youtube videos/ read the
information on your website and I am still unable to do this.
Is this something you could please help me with? I would be so grateful.
Courtney






Computer Science Masters student don't know how to download (use) debian on 
Mac??
it's quite unbelievable.



Re: why pae kernel has only 3G memory

2021-10-16 Thread lou



On 10/16/21 10:32 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

Any particular reason why you must use pae rather than
the standard 32 bit kernel?

Hmm... isn't "the standard 32 bit kernel" `linux-image-686-pae` ?

At least the `linux-image-686` package seems to describe itself as for use
only on those machines where `linux-image-686-pae` doesn't work.


 Stefan



Thanks, i've just installed linux-image-686, result is same



Re: why pae kernel has only 3G memory

2021-10-15 Thread lou

Thank Likonen and piorunz!

https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-t5740e-thin-client/4282707/manuals

from hp's QuickSpecs: Note: Minimum of 1GB and a maximum of 4GB* (2 X 
2GB) can be supported (*Up to 1 GB may not be available with 32-bit 
operating systems due to system resource requirements.)


bios reports 4032M memory, missing 64M might be used by graphics card

it seems to me that hp says that problem of missing memory is with 
32-bit OS, not with hp






Re: why pae kernel has only 3G memory

2021-10-15 Thread lou


On 10/15/21 4:57 AM, Andy Smith wrote:

Hello,

This is unlikely to fix things unless it's a known bug.

Cheers,
Andy



Thanks!

you are right, i've just tried bullseye, result is same

in memtest86+, 2x2G memory are detected though 3G are tested

my PC is 32bit, it can use only kernel for i386

 cat /proc/cpuinfo:
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 28
model name  : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280   @ 1.66GHz
stepping: 2
microcode   : 0x218
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid  : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fdiv_bug: no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc 
arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr 
pdcm movbe lahf_lm dtherm
bugs:
bogomips: 3324.98
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 28
model name  : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280   @ 1.66GHz
stepping: 2
microcode   : 0x218
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid  : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fdiv_bug: no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc 
arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr 
pdcm movbe lahf_lm dtherm
bugs:
bogomips: 3324.98
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:



why pae kernel has only 3G memory

2021-10-15 Thread lou



i have stretch, it use 3G memory, 1G memory can't be used

top: KiB Mem :  3038696 total,  2221904 free,   400628 used, 416164 
buff/cache
uname: Linux debian 4.9.0-13-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.228-1 
(2020-07-05) i686 GNU/Linux


i think pae kernel can use 4G memory

do i have to upgrade to buster or bullseye?



Re: why smart phone can't show song's Title and Artist?

2021-10-06 Thread lou



On 10/6/21 4:26 AM, Stanislav Vlasov wrote:

Try exfalso as tags editor.



Thank Stanislav Vlasov!

i use exfalso and phone can show Artist and Title now.



why smart phone can't show song's Title and Artist?

2021-10-06 Thread lou
i use stretch to create mp3 song, use gmp3info to add info on Title and 
Artist


these info are in Chinese and i guess it use utf encoding

then i copy song to smart phone, but phone can't show song's Title and 
Artist




Re: how to record sound being played using arecord

2021-10-03 Thread lou



On 10/3/21 9:23 AM, Michael Lange wrote:

Hi,

Because the thing you wanted to do did *not* work for you? ;-)


after loading them, they don't help, i can't hear anything from
recording

which commands exactly did you try? Did you set the capture channel to
"Vol" either by some gui mixer or with the aumix command I suggested?

The only reason I suggested loading the sound_*_oss modules is that
alsamixer/amixer seems to have no equivalent for this.

Best regards

Michael



Thank Michael!

i've solved it, with help from pulseaudio, not OSS compatibility module

but it's done in fedora, not in stretch

i've installed pavucontrol for stretch, it doesn't work

pavucontrol has several tabs: Playback, Recording, Output Devices...

under Playback tab, it shows "System Sounds"

i can't change sound volume with scrollbar




Re: how to record sound being played using arecord

2021-10-02 Thread lou


On 10/2/21 9:38 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Yes, you want to read

https://dt.iki.fi/record-system-output-alsa

for an example.

-dsr-



to Dan:

it's not easy to follow instruction at 
https://dt.iki.fi/record-system-output-alsa


after running "|modprobe snd-aloop", i can hear sound being played|

|no wonder i can hear nothing from recording|


to Michael:

why shall i need OSS compatibility module if alsa works?
after loading them, they don't help, i can't hear anything from recording

|ffmpeg -f alsa -i hw:1,1 -c:a flac output.flac command above is from 
|https://dt.iki.fi/record-system-output-alsa
i use it to record, i can't hear anything from recording

~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Loopback [Loopback], device 0: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 1: Loopback [Loopback], device 1: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7

||

||



Re: how to record sound being played using arecord

2021-10-02 Thread lou



On 10/2/21 7:46 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Do you have a microphone plugged in?
Try

arecord test.wav

and make some noise, then hit ctrl-c to stop the recording.

Use

aplay test.wav

to play it back.

If you need a more sophisticated interface, consider installing
audacity.

-dsr-




Thank Dan!

i don't have microphone

i want to record sound being played by application, alsaloop is needed

i will use .wav or .au format, hopefully my cell phone can play it




how to record sound being played using arecord

2021-10-02 Thread lou

Could you give me commands that record sound being played?

i don't know how to use alsaloop

Can arecord use mp3 format?

Thanks!

  ~$ amixer
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 65536
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 31609 [48%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 31609 [48%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 65536
  Front Left: Capture 3479 [5%] [off]
  Front Right: Capture 3479 [5%] [off]

~$ arecord -l
 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0



how to record sound being played

2021-09-29 Thread lou

i have bullseye and want to record sound being played using ffmpeg

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/ALSA

$ arecord -l
 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272 Analog [ALC272 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

how to use alsaloop?

Could you give me command to record sound being played? Thanks!



Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-24 Thread lou

On 9/22/21 2:32 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:


Of course. Lots and lots. This doesn't mean it is a good thing.
Think of that American tractor company (John Deere) where you
can't exchange parts yourself because the built-in software will
notice and refuse to work. And changing that would be a copyright
violation... Think of those inkjet cartridges which have a chip
to stop you from refilling them with your own ink.

Taking always the "practical" route will lead us into full
dependency on three to four big corporations in a very short
time. We as consumers do have a bit of responsibility, too.

End or lecture ;-D

Cheers
  - t


i don't think your lecture is convincing

some claim they can read binary or reverse-engineer

forcing user to use some ink might violate anti-monopoly law

if printer maker don't enjoy monopoly, user can choose other printer

excluding non-free firmware in official image make little difference to 
hardware manufacturers


it only cause inconvenience to user




Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-21 Thread lou



On 9/21/21 3:49 PM, piorunz wrote:

.
Many Linux distributions are made that way. After all, we want to come
away from closed source software. Debian tries to avoid all closed
source and/or non-free software, as per The Debian Free Software
Guidelines (DFSG):

https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines




Thanks to all that reply!

i still prefer official image

but it will be long time before i use installer again

PS: i think we've been using firmware without source code all the time, 
no matter how serious you are about open source. these firmware are 
installed somewhere in hardware. using only free software/firmware don't 
seem practical






Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-20 Thread lou



On 9/20/21 5:38 AM, Stanislav Vlasov wrote:

2021-09-20 14:04 GMT+05:00, lou :

installer using hard disk method can read firmware in ext3 partition

May you take installer with integrated firmware?

https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/



Thanks, but it's unofficial, and it makes me feel uneasy

fedora includes firmware, and i think they are serious about open source

why debian can't do the same?



Re: foolish problem with installer: can't load firmware

2021-09-20 Thread lou



Thank David, i have installed successfully by hard disk method

installer using hard disk method can read firmware in ext3 partition

i have 2 usb sticks, one for installer, the other for firmware, but 
bullseye installer can't read firmware stick


last mail is sent thru mail provider's web interface

i prefer Thunderbird because web interface has ad




Re: how to remove grub's background image

2021-08-26 Thread lou



On 8/26/21 4:37 AM, Brian wrote:

Try:

Edit /etc/default/grub to have

   GRUB_BACKGROUND=""

Execute 'update-grub'.



Thank Brian, i follow your instruction, it works, background image isn't 
shown



Nicolas George, autoremove option doesn't work as manual promise,

apt remove xfce4

apt autoremove

i use "apt remove libxfce4ui*", i'm not sure all packages installed with 
xfce4 are removed






how to remove grub's background image

2021-08-26 Thread lou

i install xfce4 in stretch, unhappy with it, and remove it

but i'm unable to remove grub boot menu's background image that is 
installed with xfce4


i browse /boot/grub, unable to find related file

i attach grub.cfg, Thanks!


#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  set have_grubenv=true
  load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
   set default="${next_entry}"
   set next_entry=
   save_env next_entry
   set boot_once=true
else
   set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
  fi
}
function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
#insmod all_video
insmod vga
  else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd1,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd1,msdos1 
--hint-efi=hd1,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci1,msdos1  
1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
  set timeout=30
else
  if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=menu
set timeout=5
  # Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
  # unavailable.
  else
set timeout=5
  fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd1,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd1,msdos1 
--hint-efi=hd1,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci1,msdos1  
1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
fi
insmod png
if background_image /usr/share/desktop-base/softwaves-theme/grub/grub-4x3.png; 
then
  set color_normal=white/black
  set color_highlight=black/white
else
  set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
  set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
set gfxpayload="${1}"
}
set linux_gfx_mode=
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu 
--class os $menuentry_id_option 
'gnulinux-simple-1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a' {
load_video
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd1,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd1,msdos1 
--hint-efi=hd1,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci1,msdos1  
1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
fi
echo'Loading Linux 4.9.0-13-686-pae ...'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-13-686-pae 
root=UUID=1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a ro  quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-13-686-pae
}
submenu 'Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux' $menuentry_id_option 
'gnulinux-advanced-1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a' {
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 4.9.0-13-686-pae' --class 
debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 
'gnulinux-4.9.0-13-686-pae-advanced-1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a' {
load_video
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; 
fi
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd1,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
--hint-bios=hd1,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd1,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci1,msdos1  
1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
1347ea12-f64b-4192-b90a-e974d7b04b4a
fi
echo'Loading Linux 

Re: moderators, I would appreciate if you could interfere

2021-08-15 Thread lou

Andrew, i thought you r moderator because you post monthly list guideline

and you speak kindly with some authority when some list user deviate



Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread lou



On 8/14/21 11:32 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:


The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian
installation, with no Desktop Environment.  It probably doesn't have an X
server either, or X fonts, or any of the other things you would need in
order to actually run an X session locally.

A quick web search found a list of the packages on this image:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.packages

As I expected, there is no X server, even though there are a few X
client programs.  There's no way you'll be able to start an X session
from this image.  It's meant for console/server use only.



Thank Greg Wooledge!

then these X apps are to be run remotely



Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread lou



On 8/14/21 11:08 PM, Weaver wrote:


At the prompt, type `startx'.
Depending on permissions, you may need to become root.
Cheers!

Harry.



startx don't seem to be included in ISO image

and what is password for root?



how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

2021-08-14 Thread lou

i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it

X app are included, but how to start X Window?



Re: Debian 11 is released!

2021-08-14 Thread lou

Thank piorunz! i'll install it today


PS: www.debian.org hasn't published the news, 1st item in Project News 
is bad news (mourning)




Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread lou

more complete translation of subject:

after debian installation, first boot fails, cursor in upper-left corner 
blinks




Re: Intel nuc 11 i5 kit 安裝debian後,首次開機就失敗,黑化面左上角遊標一直閃

2021-08-14 Thread lou
Antonio Russo, you don't understand Chinese language? i'm afraid you 
can't help


OP might not understand English

in OP's subject, he says debian installation fails, cursor in upper-left 
corner blinks


in OP's message body, he want to you to explain message in journal:

the unit systemd-hostname.service has successfully entered the 'dead' state




why toolbar in thunderbird can't be customized?

2021-08-08 Thread lou

there are three toolbars in thunderbird

the 1st can be customized to one of iconOnly/textOnly/iconWithtext

but other two can't be, no matter where do i right-click beside toolbar, 
popup window doesn't show


thunderbird for stretch and buster all have such problem




Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread lou

tomas, thunderbird is working now



Re: need help on setting up thunderbird

2021-08-05 Thread lou

Thank didier and tomas! i've set up thunderbird

when i receive mail, thunderbird prompts me for password, i enter 
16-char-long code, password used in their web-based mail isn't used




Re: Changement de PC : lenteur au boot

2018-08-03 Thread lou
Le Fri, 3 Aug 2018 11:00:20 +0200,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> On Friday 03 August 2018 07:29:06 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > Le 02/08/2018 à 23:40, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :  
> > > J'ai copié ma Debian Stretch vers un nouveau pc.
> > > Tout marche bien sauf qu'au boot apparait un tiret "-",
> > > je dois attendre 20 bonnes secondes,
> > > puis apparait exactement ce message :
> > > "Gave up waiting for suspend / resume device  
> 
> > Copié comment ? L'UUID du swap a été préservé ? :  
> J'ai bien modifié son UUID.
> 
> > Regarde dans /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume.
> > Si c'est vide, tu peux essayer de reconstruire l'initramfs avec
> > update-initramfs -u  
> Voici la réponse :
> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-686-pae
> W: initramfs-tools configuration sets 
> RESUME=UUID=650bc976-62dc-4db9-99fc-30e0785eb060
> W: but no matching swap device is available.
> I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda7
> I: (UUID=3e213513-9ea9-4a4e-a0b4-8466e0f23281)
> I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
> 
> Pourquoi "resume from /dev/sda7"
> qui ma partition swap ?
> 
> > > dmesg donne ce message :
> > > "[drm:drm_edid_block_valid [drm]] *ERROR* EDID checksum is
> > > invalid, remainder is 99"  
> 
> > Problème avec la carte graphique ou l'écran. Ça ne vient pas de la 
> > configuration de Debian.  
> Ok, je vais voir.
> 
> Merci,  
> 
> André 
> 

Est-ce que l'UUID de la swap est le même que dans le
fichier /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume?
Sinon, remplace le par le bon UUID de ta swap..
Ensuite, fait un update-initramfs -u..



Re: Chromium ne joue plus les vidéos

2018-07-21 Thread lou
Le Sat, 21 Jul 2018 15:00:22 +0200,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> On Friday 20 July 2018 18:26:58 lou wrote:
> > Je connait pas le problème, je n'utilise pas chromium, mais
> > j'utilise vivaldi et il est basé sur chromium et ça marche...   
> 
> # apt-cache search vivaldi
> ne donne rien.
> 
> Ne serait-ce pas : chromium-widevine ?
> 
> Merci,
> 
> André
> 

> pour décoder les drm (utilisant l'utilitaire chrome...widevine) :
https://gist.github.com/ruario/3c873d43eb20553d5014bd4d29fe37f1

non, le script utilise celui de google-chrome, mais sur la page s'est
indiquer comment l'utiliser pour chromium



Re: Ajouter un programme dans le menu Debian Jessie

2018-07-20 Thread lou
Le Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:53:14 +0200,
G2PC  a écrit :

> > Le raccourci n'est pas ajouté dans le menu :'(
> >  
>  Aille, je n'avais pas mis le fichier dans le bon dossier.
> 
> Ajouter une entrée dans le menu XFCE de Debian 8.7 Jessie :
> Ajouter une entrée dans le dossier /usr/share/applications/ qui
> s’appellera Eclipse. [Desktop Entry]
> Type=Application
> Name=Eclipse
> GenericName=Eclipse
> Comment=Eclipse PDT : PHP.
> Icon=/home/userone/USER-SERVEUR/Eclipse/php.png
> Exec=/home/userone/USER-SERVEUR/Eclipse/eclipse
> Terminal=false
> StartupNotify=false
> Categories=Development;
> 
> Par contre :
> Créer un fichier texte ne suffit pas. Pour arriver à créer un lanceur,
> je copie colle un lanceur existant puis le modifie avec mes lignes
> pour Eclipse.
> Est ce bien normal ?
> 

xfce à une option sur le clic droit pour créer un lanceur.
oublie pas le .desktop après eclipse eclipse.desktop
Il y à une ligne que je ne vois pas dans ton .desktop et c'est
Version=1.0 après [Desktop Entry] (c'est ce que j'ai chez nous...)

d'après moi, si tu copie/colle pour créer un lanceur, créer un nouveau
fichier texte bien fait fera l'affaire aussi ;)

Moi je met: 

[Desktop Entry]
> Version=1.0 
> Type=Application
> Name=
> GenericName=
> Comment=
> Icon=
> Exec=
> Terminal=
> StartupNotify=
> Categories=



Re: Chromium ne joue plus les vidéos

2018-07-20 Thread lou
Le Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:28:08 -0400,
roger gm  a écrit :

> Bonjour
> J'ai le même problème depuis quelques semaines.
> Cela ne doit pas provenir nécessairement du noyau car je suis encore
> sous linux 4.9.0-6-amd64
> Roger
> 
> 
> - Message Transféré -
> 
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:40:18 +0200 (CEST)
> De: Jean Bernon 
> À: ML Debian User French 
> Sujet: Chromium ne joue plus les vidéos
> 
> 
> Bonjour, 
> 
> 
> Depuis le passage de linux 4.9.0-6-amd64 à linux 4.9.0-7-amd64,
> chromium ne lit plus les vidéos. A chaque essai, j'ai le message
> "Errror loading media - File could not be played". Chrome lui les lit
> sans problème. Quelqu'un connaît-il ce problème ? Merci de vos
> lumières. 
> 
> 
> Jean
Je connait pas le problème, je n'utilise pas chromium, mais j'utilise
vivaldi et il est basé sur chromium et ça marche... Les plugins sont-il
à jour?? il y à des scripts sur github pour décoder html5 proprietaire.
(il télécharge la dernière version de chromium-codec-ffmpeg-extra du
dépôt ubuntu): https://gist.github.com/ruario/bec42d156d30affef655

pour décoder les drm (utilisant l'utilitaire chrome...widevine) :
https://gist.github.com/ruario/3c873d43eb20553d5014bd4d29fe37f1

et pour pepperflash : 
https://gist.github.com/ruario/215c365facfe8d3c5071

je sais pas si ça peu aider...
Bonne chance :)



Re: monter un disque dur externe en ntfs

2018-06-25 Thread lou
Le Tue, 26 Jun 2018 00:19:57 +0200 (CEST),
Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit :

> bonjour, 
> 
> l'environnement c'est xfce4 
> 
> merci 
> slt 
> bernard 
> 
> - Mail original -
> 
> > De: "Belaïd" 
> > À: "Belaïd MOUNSI" 
> > Cc: "Liste Debian" 
> > Envoyé: Lundi 25 Juin 2018 19:05:53
> > Objet: Re: monter un disque dur externe en ntfs  
> 
> > Petite précision en plus : sur debian c'était du gnome, et sur
> > Ubuntu Unity  
> 
> > Le lun. 25 juin 2018 19:01, Eric Degenetais < edegenet...@henix.fr >
> > a écrit :  
> 
> > > Le 25 juin 2018 à 18:30, Belaïd < oblivion.ik...@gmail.com > a
> > > écrit
> > > :  
> >   
> > > >  
> >   
> > > > bonjour,  
> >   
> > > >  
> >   
> > > bonjour  
> >   
> 
> > > >  
> >   
> > > > comment ça avec la souris ? en cliquant sur l'icône du
> > > > disque ?  
> >   
> > > >  
> >   
> > > > Le lun. 25 juin 2018 14:52, Bernard Schoenacker <
> > > > bernard.schoenac...@free.fr > a écrit :  
> >   
> > > >>  
> >   
> > > >> bonjour,  
> >   
> > > >>  
> >   
> > > >> je recherche la solution pour monter un disque dur  
> >   
> > > >> en ntfs à l'aide de la souris  
> >   
> > > >>  
> >   
> 
> > > Sur certains environnement c'est out of the box. Donc il faut des
> > > précisions sur l'environnement ;)  
> >   
> 
> > > >>  
> >   
> > > >> merci  
> >   
> > > >>  
> >   
> > > >> slt  
> >   
> > > >> bernard  
> >   
> > > >>  
> >   
> > > Cordialement  
> >   
> > > __  
> >   
> > > Éric Dégenètais  
> >   
> > > Henix  
> >  

Salut,
un outil gui pour monter les systèmes de fichier..
disk-manager dans les dépôts...

A+



Re: tout arrive avec grub2

2017-10-04 Thread lou
Le Tue, 3 Oct 2017 23:28:26 -,
miz...@elude.in a écrit :

> sda6 = ext4
> sda5 = swap
> 
> sdb6 = media = temp (usb ?)
> sdb5 = media = data (harddisk ?)
> 
> mount : vbox_vous êtes branché dessus ?
> mount : testing ? en double ?
> 
>   c *où est le boot efi ?*
> 
> __
> 
>   a *fichier mal configuré : je ne comprends pas du tout votre
> configuration.*
> 
>   b *votre panne vient peut-être du fait que deux partitions
> étaient montées en même temps.*
> _
> 
> J'avais une clé usb d'insérée au moment ou j'ai redémarré la machine
> et je l'ai pas déconnectée avant le redémarrage j'ai souvent fait
> ça (* moi aussi jusqu'au jour où cela bloque et en plus ça bousille
> la clé et les données*) et j'ai jamais eu de soucidevrais-je ?
> 
> * oui si elle est montée (ça tourne en boucle et ne s'éteint pas d'où
> l'impossibilité de rentrer) pourtant debian gère bien ces imprudences
> brouillonnes.*
> * non si elle est configuré comme login (nitrokey fait ça très bien
> mais on peut le faire à la main).*
> 
> 
> To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Rien ne se passe après Grub2...oops oubliez la pièce
> jointe dans le dernier message...
> From: lou <muzikali...@mailoo.org>
> 
> *pour l'option no-resume je vous laisse chercher ou attendre les
> explications de sébastien.*
> 

Je vais expliquer mon fstab :)

Tout d'abord j'ai /dev/sda qui est mon disque ou je met mes tout ce qui
concerne mes OS en partition étendu...

/dev/sda5 qui est ma swap
/dev/sda6 qui est ma debian stable
/dev/sda7 que j'utilise avec virtual box, parce que je ne
le veut pas dans mon home (par défault)..
/dev/sda8 qui est une debian testing, pour tenter de commencer à faire
des rapports de bugs.

Pour ce qui est du boot efi, je croyais qu'il était dans /dev/sda6 dans
le dossi/boot via le mbr ou j'install grub.

/dev/sdb est un autre disque dur.
/dev/sdb1 est une partition pour mes fichiers temporaires d'internet
/dev/sdb2 est mon Data avec tous le reste...musique, video, etc
(celle-ci est encrypté avec LUKS) et je la monte à mon aise si j'en est
besoin. C'est pour ça que la ligne dans le fstab est commenter. Je ne
suis pas habituer de faire une partition avec LUKS et comme sa me
gênait pas, je la laissait commenter. Peut-être que je devrait
l'indiquer dans mon fstab avec l.option noauto, ce qui reviendrait au
même pour moi et ainsi j’éviterais sûrement des conflit future..

Je partitionne de cette façon, car j'install souvent des distributions
pour les essayers Sa me fait moin de backup à faire. cette
distribution "d'essaie" se retrouve donc en /dev/sda8..

Maintenant j'aimerais rajouter un point que je croyais pas pertinant,
mais à présent, oui.

Quand j'ai fait ma clé usb avec cp et que je ne l'ai pas déconnecter
avant de redemarrer, s'était pour faire une installation en /dev/sda8.
(qui est firmware_debian_9). Donc j'ai lancé L'installateur et fait le
processus. l'installateur ma évidemment formater ma swap ainsi que la
partition dédié à la racine. Quand j'ai booter sur le live, dans le
chroot, j'ai édité mon fstab pour changer le UUID de ma swap, qui
venait de changer, vu son formatage. Pour qu'il puisse la détecter, car
je croyait que s'était mon problème.

Maintenant, si je fait un #update-initramfs -u j'ai ça comme retour..

> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
> W: initramfs-tools configuration sets
> RESUME=UUID=a624326a-3308-41aa-be78-afc35f69067a W: but no matching
> swap device is available. I: The initramfs will attempt to resume
> from /dev/sda5 I: (UUID=86960075-465f-460d-9fe8-6d7a29ee7d9b)
> I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
L'UUID a624326a-3308-41aa-be78-afc35f69067a est l'ancien UUID de ma
swap...

blkid j’obtiens:
> /dev/sda5: UUID="86960075-465f-460d-9fe8-6d7a29ee7d9b" TYPE="swap"
> PARTUUID="234ee1e3-05"
Donc l'initram à conserver l'ancien UUID de la swap et il faut
ré-écrire la varible à l'initram. J'ai bien compris?

Dans ma pratique, quand j'install une autre distribution sur (/dev/sda8)
et qu'il formate la swap, si je redémarre sur /dev/sda6 (debian stable),
je me retrouve dans un shell ou (press ctrl+D to continue) alors
j'entre le mdp root pour aller changer le nouveau UUID de la swap et je
redémarre et tout va bien 

Donc, c'est le fait de ne pas avoir
déconnecter ma clé usb, lancer l'insatallateur, changer l'uuid en live
session, qui me donne ce compte rendu?

Merci pour l'explication du noresume Sebastien :)

MERCI! :p








Re: remettre windows

2017-10-03 Thread lou
Le Tue, 03 Oct 2017 22:38:07 +0200,
zulian  a écrit :

> Le mardi 3 octobre 2017, 17:28:33 CEST Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
> > Le 03/10/2017 à 17:11, hamster a écrit :  
> > > Quelqu'un a qui j'ai installé débian en double boot n'est pas
> > > séduit par le bidule et me demande de lui remettre l'ordi avec
> > > uniquement windows. Je me fais un point d'honneur a satisfaire sa
> > > demande, seulement voila : si je vire debian, grub ne marche
> > > plus.  
> > 
> > Normal, un gros bout de GRUB était installé dans /boot.
> > Je suppose que tu avais installé GRUB dans le MBR ?
> > Sinon, si tu avais installé GRUB dans le secteur d'amorce d'une
> > partition et mis le drapeau d'amorçage sur celle-ci, il suffit de
> > déplacer le drapeau d'amorçage sur la partition Windows avec
> > n'importe quel partitionneur.
> >   
> > > Une solution serait de restaurer le bootloader de windows, mais
> > > je sais pas faire.  
> > 
> > Moi non plus. J'ai entendu parler de fixboot et fixmbr avec un CD
> > ou DVD d'installation de Windows, mais jamais fait.  
> 
> Couic 
> 
> 
> Hou la la, 
> 
> Pour des problèmes Windows choisir des outils Microsoft.
> 
> Tu "boot" sur ton  joli DVD win 10 --> F8 --> options avancées --->
> 
> La, essayes d'abord en mode console  Bootrec.exe. 
> Généralement c'est le bonheur, ton système "reboote" tout propre.
> 
> Si cela ne fonctionne pas (et parfois il ne veut rien savoir) alors
> la seule solution est de choisir  la réinstallation complète. 
> 
> Tester et approuver sur de nombreuses configs.
> 
> Oups, désolé, un moment d'égarement, j'ai oublié que je poste sur
> debian- user-french.
> 
> --
> 
> Frédéric ZULIAN
> 

Juste une précision Me semble que le bootloader de windows c'est
bootsect et non bootrec

a+



Re: Rien ne se passe après Grub2...oops oubliez la pièce jointe dans le dernier message...

2017-10-03 Thread lou
Le Tue, 3 Oct 2017 17:16:17 +0200,
Sébastien NOBILI  a écrit :

> Le mardi 03 octobre 2017 à 10:48, louis a écrit :
> > Pensez-vous que le screenshot en PJ a à voir avec ce problème?  
> 
> Aaaah, voilà la pièce-jointe :D
> 
> Le « -.mount » est étrange… Un problème avec le contenu de fstab ou
> bien un problème d’interprétation de son contenu par Systemd.
> 
> Pourrais-tu nous envoyer le contenu du fichier « /etc/fstab » de ton
> système Debian (pas celui du LiveCD).
> 
> Si tu as des mots de passe dedans, efface-les avant.
> 
> Sébastien
> 

J'aimerais savoir ce que fait l'option du noyau "noresume" ?? et si je
peux laisser l'option au noyau...?
Parce que, maintenant, je peux entrer dans ma debian :))
MERCI!

Je poste quand même mon fstab... parce que je comprend toujours pas
pourquoi j'étais bloqué au démarrage.???..

Je n'est pas de double entrer UUID ou 2 swap et tout semble normale
pour ma part. J'ai une ligne commenter et s'est une partition chiffré
que je monte au moment où je suis dans ma debian et non au boot. 

> vous n'auriez pas branché un disk ou une vm ou un tail ou une usb
> chiffrée avant en oubliant de déconnectez correctement ?
> ou alors une manipulation de fichiers .conf mal sauvegardée ?
> ou un service par init /systemd toujours ouvert ? fermez le service :
> stop
J'avais une clé usb d'insérée au moment ou j'ai redémarré la machine et
je l'ai pas déconnectée avant le redémarrage j'ai souvent fait ça
et  j'ai jamais eu de soucidevrais-je?

Merci à vous 2 Sebastien & Mizett

Et oui mailoo marche toujours, mais je sais pas pour combien de
temps! ;-)

le fstab est en pièce jointe :D


Re: XFCE pb lancement Synaptic depuis le menu

2017-09-21 Thread lou
Le Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:07:46 +0200,
"Pierre L."  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Je pense suite à upgrade Jessie 8 > Stretch 9,
> dans le menu XFCE, plus moyen de lancer Synaptic.
> 
> Celui-ci fonctionne depuis un terminal en l'appelant par son nom via
> root.
> 
> Tentative infructueuse en le désinstallant, puis réinstallant :
> l'entrée dans le menu a été recréée, mais toujours même souci.
> 
> Peut-être auriez-vous une idée pour corriger le tir ?
> Une autre piste... Je vois qu'il est possible de copier le menu
> d'origine de XFCE (xfce4-panel 4.12.1), puis d'utiliser sa version
> modifiée... une magouille pour éventuellement lancer ce Synaptic avec
> un sudo devant ? (si c'est bien ca le souci!)
> 
> Merci d'avance pour les tuyaux :)
> 

Salut,

Dans mon menu la commande pour lancer synaptic c'est : synaptic-pkexec
j'utilise xfce4 avec debian stretch
au plaisir :)



W: Kernel Task Compendium

2013-05-03 Thread Lou

Hi list

I'm looking for a brief compendium on kernel tasks - mostly out of 
curiosity, but also to have a brief idea what the list of running 
services ps -A is spitting out are there for (and disabling those I most 
certainly will never use)


Figuring out what the userspace tasks are doing is easily done by a 
quick google, as for the kernel tasks: not so much.


Is the Kernel/Documentation folder any good, or where is the right place 
to look for?


And is it possible to stop kernel tasks I will never use? In Ubuntu 
[ecryptfs-thread] would be a possible candidate. Can I blacklist loaded 
modules and services I don't use?


Thanks,

Lou


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wheezy: findsmb output different compared to squeeze

2013-01-08 Thread Lou

Hello list

findsmb in debian/wheezy will ship the exact same perl script I have 
here in debian/squeeze, but the output it produces is different.


findsmb output in squeeze:

*=DMB
+=LMB
IP ADDR NETBIOS NAME WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION
-
192.168.1.2   D6M1 +[WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.5.6]
192.168.1.3   D7M1  [WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.6.3]
192.168.1.4   D6M2  [WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.5.6]


findsmb output in wheezy:

*=DMB
+=LMB
IP ADDR NETBIOS NAME WORKGROUP/OS/VERSION
-
192.168.1.2   D6M1   +[WORKGROUP] [Unix] [Samba 3.5.6]


So it randomly outputs only 1 of my 3 shares instead of all 3. I'd like 
to know why? All machines use an identical smb.conf


Regards, Lou


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Re: Re: privoxy kinda slowish

2012-09-25 Thread Lou

Thank you both Sthu and John for your replies.

Can you tell me what version of privoxy you both are using in 
debian/squeeze? There is the repository version (3.0.16), and then there 
is the deb you can download from the privoxy sourceforge website (3.0.19).


None of them load sites reasonable well when set in cautious mode. I 
also noticed, how version 3.0.19 in ubuntu/precise runs fast on the same 
websites, even with filtering enabled.


It all points to miss-configuration on my part, or the package in 
squeeze has a problem I don't know of.


Since it runs so well in ubuntu with plain default actions, I don't 
understand what's wrong with the same defaults I use in squeeze.


I enabled the debug mode and checked for errors in 
/var/log/privoxy/logfile , but that won't point me to a possible problem.


Any ideas what to look at when speed drops like that?

Regards,

Lou

On 25.09.2012 11:17, Sthu Deus wrote:

Good time of the day, Lou.


You wrote:


If I run privoxy with filtering disabled in the webinterface it still
feels a lot slower compared to surfing without a proxy at all.

Is this to be expected, and can speed improve with config adjustments?

I just use the default actions on debian/squezze, and no tor.


Unless You use TOR, it should be any slower even if You use filters.


Sthu.




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privoxy kinda slowish

2012-09-23 Thread Lou

Hi list

If I run privoxy with filtering disabled in the webinterface it still 
feels a lot slower compared to surfing without a proxy at all.


Is this to be expected, and can speed improve with config adjustments?

I just use the default actions on debian/squezze, and no tor.


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Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java

2012-08-17 Thread Lou

On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:14:58 -0300, Dr Beco wrote:



I wonder, this solutions give us not only JDK or JRE, but also the
plugin, don't they?



The plugin's included in jre and jdk - if you don't see it in 
about:plugins most likely the symlink to libnpjp2.so has gone missing.


The debian-way of adding this link is to place an entry called 
mozilla-javaplugin.so to /etc/alternatives :


sudo update-alternatives --install 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mozilla-javaplugin.so mozilla-javaplugin.so 
/usr/lib/jvm/j2sdk1.6-oracle/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so 3


sudo update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so

choose your weapon there if you got multiple solutions
after that consider testing java @ 
http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp - it might complain java 7 
is out, but you can ignore that until February/2013, just make sure to 
keep java6 up to date.



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Re: Wheezy and Sun-Java

2012-08-15 Thread Lou


On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:29:41 -0300, Dr Beco wrote:


3) If there is an easy way of creating a .deb package from the .tgz
on the original site, that would also be nice. Something like the
google-earth package, I believe.

There are many solutions, so please, just take a kind look into this!



That's been taken care of last February:

http://sylvestre.ledru.info/blog/sylvestre/2012/02/29/java_package_replacement_of_sun_java6

You will have to update yourself once a new binary comes out. It works 
against java6 and java7



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Re: Re: How /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny and smb.conf play along

2012-04-26 Thread Lou

Thanks for clearing this up Juan and Shawn.

I noticed I could change smbd to run in inetd mode if I flip the switch 
in /etc/default/samba, but I don't known how this would improve things, 
eventually create new drawback in cifs performance ... so I'll keep it 
as it is with additional smb.conf entries + daemon mode.


The server is behind a router/firewall, it should be safe as it is.



On 26.04.2012 12:54, shawn wilson wrote:

Juan is correct. However my two cents - don't rely on hosts.allow and
hosts.deny for anything. Just use iptables rules to do this type of thing.

Also, most don't consider samba to be a very secure service (last CVE
was only a few weeks ago) so be very careful with this service.

On Apr 26, 2012 5:37 AM, Juan Sierra Pons juan@elsotanillo.netwrote

I think the problem here is between tcpwrapper linux implementation
and the the samba package.
Are you running samba as a daemon or from then inetd?

I think you are running it as a daemon and I believe (check on the
internet) samba must be compiled in a tcpwrapper friendly way (I don't
know if this is the default)

Running samba from inetd must work OK as inetd is tcpwrapper friendly.

If this doesn't help you you can try iptables (but your workaround
is OK too)




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Re: Re: How /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny and smb.conf play along

2012-04-26 Thread Lou

Hello Clive

Thanks for pointing me to to ipcalc,

I noticed smb.conf  has a commented entry for 127.0.0.0/8

This would cover the whole local subnet:

HostMin:   127.0.0.1
HostMax:   127.255.255.254

Does it make sense to cover more than 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 in 
/etc/hosts.allow ?


I don't know of any service using any other than those two addresses. 
First one is localhost, the other one should be there for X-server 
compatibility.


On 26.04.2012 13:34, Clive Standbridge wrote:



Not sure about that. You can check it with ipcalc (in the ipcalc package):




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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-27 Thread Lou

Hello Ramon,

Please check the wdc link [1] I gave you again, WD20EARS is on the list. 
The wiki article can't keep up all the time with newer green series 
coming out.


[1] http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5357

Regards

Lou

Ramon Hofer wrote:


Sorry, one more question to the wdidle3:
On the ubuntuusers page and the WD page they write, that it should only
be used for WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0 and WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0.
But I have a different drive. So I wondered if they just didn't update
their homepage and mean all of the Caviar Green series?




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Re: Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-26 Thread Lou

Ramon Hofer wrote:



Wasn't able to have a closer look at the links but it seems as if I had
to use Windows to run WDIDLE3.exe to change a firmware setting. I assume
I can do this on an other PC and then move the disc back to the server?



Actually this is an MS-DOS binary, which might complicate things for you 
if you no longer have a working dos environment like a bootable floppy 
or a stick installation. This is why I posted the wiki link: the article 
explains how to create a bootable freedos image with the exe included. 
Since I still had a working MS-DOS 6.22 floppy I used that one, but the 
wiki howto (Verwendung von FreeDOS) looks straightforward to me as well.


The binary archive can be downloaded from the wd support site [1] there 
is a text file inside that explains the update procedure.


[1] http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5357



Do you have any advices about the Samsung drives in the mdadm raid? Can I
put them to sleep normally or do I have to tell mdadm that it has to spin
down the drives?



This seems to be a controversial topic - some people report no problems 
with md raid standby, some disagree because mdraid does not handle it 
well should one array member sleep and another member doesn't.


Maybe you can choose a solution where you unmount the array before you 
put them to sleep, just to be on the save side? I never used this, since 
I prefer to shutdown a server on inactivity, and wake it up again using 
WOL or acpi wakeup.


Good Luck!

Lou


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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-25 Thread Lou

Hallo Ramon,

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:49:42 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

Therefore I uncommented the spindown_time line and set the value to
241 which should spin down all the drives after 30 minutes.

To speed up testing I have set spindown_tim = 1 but the drives still
stays active...

Can I check the access to the discs from a log?
Or maybe I should create a sudo hdparm -C /dev/sd? log which checks 
the drive states every 15 minutes or so?


Maybe it's just the hddtemp daemon with the temperature polls keeping 
your data drive(s) awake? To find out more exactly I suggest you monitor 
r/w access in syslog:


#this will put a comment about read/write access into your syslog:
echo 1  /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

#live monitoring syslog:
tail -f /var/log/syslog

#switch off syslog r/w comments:
echo 1  /proc/sys/vm/block_dump

Hopefully this will give you the necessary hints

Cheers!


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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-25 Thread Lou

On -10.01.-28163 20:59, Ramon Hofer wrote:


Btw: As you didn't write anything else hdparm should have no problem
spinning down sata drives?

Do you know if I can check the hdparm setting somewhere? Like hdparm -C
to show me the spindown setting?


It depends on the drive - there is hdparm -I /dev/device that offers a 
capability and a command feature section. From the looks at my output

(where hdparm -S int works alright) there is this option:

   *Power Management feature set

Maybe this is mandatory for hdparm to work with your hardware, I'm not sure.


And do I have to restart the system or is it enough the do a /etc/init.d/
hdparm restart?



Nope, hdparm -S value /dev/drive should have immediate effect, but 
it could be different for the conf file in /etc - I hope somebody else 
can help you there, since I never used that file, but wrote a 
shellscript to set hdparm -S int upon boot.



When I turn logging on, I only get lots of messages from the system drive
and not from any other. So it should work?


At least that's a good sign for drive access, another way to check it is 
to unmount the data drive(s) completely, then set sleep time to a 
minimum with hdparm -S int drive , then wait while monitoring syslog :-)


regards

Lou


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Re: SATA disc spindown

2011-11-25 Thread Lou

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 15:14:31 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:



Maybe this is important:
I use Squeeze, 2.6.32-5-amd64, hdparm v9.32, the drive sdc is a WDC
WD20EARS-00MVWB0 and the mainboard an ASUS P7P55D.




It's very good you mention this - the WD Green series is a pain in the 
ass for linux users ... please have a look at the following two postings 
about problems with the green series operating under linux:


http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WD_IntelliPark
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/479998#479998

In order to avoid high load cycle counts it is highly recommended to 
disable intellipark using WDIDLE3.exe, after that your load cycle counts 
should not raise anymore and the traditional ata commands like hdparm -S 
/dev/device 6 should work again, thus switch off your green drive 
after 30 seconds (int is a multiple of 5 accdoring to the hdparm manpage)


Please take care to only use capital -S parameter, not -s ... 
otherwise it could mess up the device firmware.


Regards

Lou


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Re: comment diff files

2011-11-25 Thread Lou

From: Jerome BENOIT g6299304p at rezozer.net


Is there any way to comment a diff file ?


I don't think so - you apply the diff using patch, then you put comments 
into the modified file, then you run a diff against the original version 
to get the difference with comments included.



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Quickcam Express

2008-10-07 Thread Jean-lou Schmidt
Bonjour à tous,

Après de nombreuses recherches et tentative en tout genre je me permet de
relancé le sujet Quickcam Express.

Donc pour résumé, le module qc-usb compile bien, se charge bien mais lors de
la moindre utilisation de la camera toutes les applis(xawtv, cheese,
effectv, freej, ekiga) se crash.
Ci dessous le log /var/log/messages avec les info kernel (avec xawtv).

Quelqu'un à essayer de compiler le pilote sans les sources packager debian ?

il y a quelque mois, j'ai vu qqun soupsonner nvidia dans cette affaire,
qu'en est il ?

Jean-lou


Oct  7 16:00:09 Pantouflebox kernel: [29670.656546] quickcam: QuickCam USB
camera found (driver version QuickCam USB 0.6.6 $Date: 2006/11/04
08:38:14 $)
Oct  7 16:00:09 Pantouflebox kernel: [29670.656555] quickcam:
Kernel:2.6.26-1-amd64 bus:2 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:0840
Oct  7 16:00:09 Pantouflebox kernel: [29670.668203] quickcam: Sensor
PB-0100/0101 detected
Oct  7 16:00:09 Pantouflebox kernel: [29670.670235] quickcam: Registered
device: /dev/video0
Oct  7 16:00:09 Pantouflebox kernel: [29670.670264] usbcore: registered new
interface driver quickcam
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] CPU 0
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] Modules linked in:
quickcam snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_via82xx gameport snd_ac97_codec
 ac97_bus snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer snd_
seq_device snd soundcore nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat nls_base wacom
binfmt_misc ppdev parport_pc lp parport video output ac battery cpufreq_s
tats cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_userspace freq_table
cpufreq_conservative ipv6 fuse nvidia(P) psmouse pcspkr serio_raw k8temp
 i2c_viapro i2c_core ov51x_jpeg compat_ioctl32 videodev v4l1_compat button
shpchp pci_hotplug evdev ext3 jbd mbcache usbhid hid ff_memless id
e_cd_mod cdrom ide_disk usb_storage sd_mod via82cxxx ide_pci_generic
ide_core ehci_hcd uhci_hcd ata_generic sata_via skge sata_promise libata
 scsi_mod dock ohci1394 ieee1394 thermal processor fan thermal_sys [last
unloaded: quickcam]
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] Pid: 23635, comm:
xawtv.bin Tainted: P  2.6.26-1-amd64 #1
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] RIP:
0010:[8038ef46]  [8038ef46] usb_hcd_unlink_urb+0x10/0x26
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] RSP:
0018:810028223e88  EFLAGS: 00010296
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] RAX: 6f5301000a080101
RBX: 81000426d800 RCX: 81000426d800
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] RDX: fffe
RSI: 81000426d800 RDI: 81000426d800
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] RBP: 81003dc5c720
R08:  R09: 7548
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] R10: 
R11: a00bdc85 R12: 81003e900738
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] R13: 81002e79c490
R14: 81003d997ec0 R15: 7fffd7b9e230
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] FS:
7f3bcf9a3720() GS:8053b000() knlGS:f73fb700
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:
 CR0: 8005003b
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] CR2: 00a911c0
CR3: 047a1000 CR4: 06e0
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] DR0: 
DR1:  DR2: 
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] DR3: 
DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] Process xawtv.bin (pid:
23635, threadinfo 810028222000, task 81002c719470)
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880] Stack:  
8038f902  8100
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880]  1388
81003dc5c000 81003dc5c720 81003e900738
Oct  7 16:06:03 Pantouflebox kernel: [30024.892880]  81002e79c490
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Re[6]:

2006-01-24 Thread Ware Lou






Mcmullen Ned


evolution 2.0 broken on sarge

2004-12-23 Thread Lou Ruppert
Ignoring the irony of asking people to email about whether their email
has died, has anyone had any problems like the following?:

When I updated my Sarge apt packages last night, upgrading from
evolution 1.x to 2.x, the conversion process hung during the contacts
conversion.  I tried it eight or nine times before simply blowing away
my configuration entirely (removing ~/evolution, .evolution,
.gconf/apps/evolution, and rebooting just to be safe).  I was then able
to start evolution, but if I try to hit 'reply' or compose a new
message, the whole application dies.

Thinking there was a curse on my environment, I created another user and
tried the same thing, getting the same results.  Any attempt to
communicate with the outside world via Evolution 2 is met with severe
punishment.

Wondering if maybe my system was wedged in some way beyond my
understanding, I went to a client's laptop I've been installing with the
until-now-perfectly-stable Sarge setup, and tried the same things.  In
one case, where the user was brand new, it started more or less stably,
but in the case where I converted from his previous files (evolution
1.x) evolution didn't hang during the conversion, but crashed on startup
afterwards, and then every subsequent time I attempted it.

So, my question is, does anyone know how to get the wretched thing to
work, or to file a more formal set of bug reports?  I can only use my
web-based email for so long before my eyeballs begin to bleed.


-Lou
(off to try Thunderbird instead on his friend's machine.)
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http://neomail.sourceforge.net


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Re: [OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU

2004-03-23 Thread Lou Losee
* Matthew Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-23 19:39]:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2004 2:37 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU
  
  
  Even though I still have a bunch of stock, and I'm a linux 
  lover now, so 
  I cheer if it goes up and I cheer if it goes down, I was expecting 
  Europe to really nail Microsoft to the wall.  I dunno, I 
  expected some 
  surrogate America-bashing, or just a really f-you to an American 
  company.  Even though it's a record for the EU, it's a pittance to 
  Microsoft and will be barely noticed.
  
  What happened?  Do they just have not much power?  Why so light?
  
  
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 I doubt anyone in Microsoft regards it a pittance.
 Just because they are able to pay, does not mean they will be happy
 about paying.
 
They may not like it, however, with over $50 billion in cash reserves
paying a $600 million fine is sort of like a normal person paying a
speeding ticket.  We don't like paying the ticket either but it usually
does not do much to keep you from speeding again, just makes you more
observant to avoid the police.

Lou


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Re: [OT] Microsoft's teeny punishment by the EU

2004-03-23 Thread Lou Losee
* John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-23 23:25]:
 Lou writes:
  They may not like it, however, with over $50 billion in cash reserves
  paying a $600 million fine is sort of like a normal person paying a
  speeding ticket.
 
 A $5000 speeding ticket.

Don't understand how you figure that...

$600 million is only 1.2% of the $50 billion cash reserve.  So if I had
to pay a fine of $5000 that would imply I had a $416,666 cash reserve.

So if I had $10,000 cash reserve I figure my fine would be about $120.

Perhaps you have more money in the bank than I do!

Lou


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Re: What mail program does this?

2004-03-20 Thread Lou Losee
* Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-21 01:13]:
 On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:25:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
 
 Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Someone now (it is not SPAM, I now the sender) has sent me a 1.2Mb
  jpeg file that mozilla chokes on, meaning he keeps trying to get it
  off the server, which fails after a while, who knows why.
 
 fetchmail, mutt, gnus...
 
  So I want to delete that file from the server, without trying to
  download it.
 
 Why not use fetchmail to fetch it?
 
 To delete the mails without downloading, use poppy.

If you desire to do it manually, you can use telnet to connect to the
POP server.  Briefly, here is the commands required:

telnet pop.server.ipaddr 110
USER x
PASS y
STAT
LIST x
RETR x
DELE x
QUIT

where:
110 is the normal POP port
x is your userid on the server
y is your password
x is the msg in question

regards,
Lou
 
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