Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Kristopher Johnson
Taupter wrote:
 
 John Hasler wrote:
 
  I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
  daylight savings time in a tropical country?
 
 Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million
 people, a high energy comsumption. There is no outdoors with Coming
 soon... Coca Cola!. Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some
 people would think.
 
 Taupter

I don't think the original poster intended to imply that Brazil
was uncivilized.  Rather, being in the tropical zone, the
country gets roughly the same number of hours of daylight all
year long and so a summer daylight savings time doesn't make
sense.

- Kris


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Taupter
 I don't think the original poster intended to imply that Brazil
 was uncivilized.  Rather, being in the tropical zone, the
 country gets roughly the same number of hours of daylight all
 year long and so a summer daylight savings time doesn't make
 sense.
 
 - Kris

Kris,


I understand your points, all very known by every first grade student.
Exactly by the exposed by you we have daylight savings. Listen:
If the sun rises and goes down in the same hour, people who commonly
reach home 19:00 (night) will reach home 18:00 (sunset). Shops and alike
will close sooner, whitout need to use artificial illumination in the
end of the work day. Really, daylight savings could be useful during
all the year.

By the way, I have some friends around the world, and once one came to
my country, and I went to the airport to wait for her. When we met, she
said she was amazed by the size of cities and towers. She said that she
believed that Brazil was a large rain forest, with indians and alike.
Then we went to MacDonalds to take a lunch and talk some nonsense.

Um abraco a todos (A hug to all)


Claudio Silveira


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Kristopher Johnson
Taupter wrote:
 
 Really, daylight savings could be useful during
 all the year.


Is this a joke?

- Kris


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Bruno Goncalves Russo
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Kristopher Johnson wrote:

 Taupter wrote:
  
  John Hasler wrote:
  
   I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
   daylight savings time in a tropical country?
  
  Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million
  people, a high energy comsumption. There is no outdoors with Coming
  soon... Coca Cola!. Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some
  people would think.
  
  Taupter
 
 I don't think the original poster intended to imply that Brazil
 was uncivilized.  Rather, being in the tropical zone, the
 country gets roughly the same number of hours of daylight all
 year long and so a summer daylight savings time doesn't make
 sense.

This is true for the northern parts of Brazil (and there's no daylight
savings time there), but in the central and southern parts the daylight
savings time is useful. If you look in a map, you'll see that part of the
country lies outside of the intertropical zone.

Bruno.


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread Kristopher Johnson
John Hasler wrote:
 
 Mario O.de Menezes writes:
  That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from
  year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or
  2 days till it changes.
 
 I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
 daylight savings time in a tropical country?
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Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY
country?

- Kris


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread John Hasler
Kristopher Johnson writes:
 Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY country?

If there is anything dumber that daylight savings time, it is daylight
savings time in the tropics.
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Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread Carl Johnson
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kristopher Johnson writes:
  Why should anyone bother with daylight savings time in ANY country?
 
 If there is anything dumber that daylight savings time, it is daylight
 savings time in the tropics.

It isn't much better in the north, where daylight savings time may
shift sunrise from 1AM to 2AM, and sunset from 11PM to midnight.  Of
course, it never really gets dark during that time, so you don't even
notice it.

-- 
Carl Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread Taupter
John Hasler wrote:
 
 I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
 daylight savings time in a tropical country?

Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million
people, a high energy comsumption. There is no outdoors with Coming
soon... Coca Cola!. Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some
people would think.


Taupter


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes

Hi,

I was able to find some info about daylight savings setting in
other Linux list.
Thanks for your concerns about Brazil. BTW, I think we'll have
daylight savings for while :-))
BTW again, zic(8) is the program which compiles the time zone and
somebody provided an updated file with correct daylight savings beginning
and end for this year.

thanks again
[]s,
Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br


Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: 
 I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
 daylight savings time in a tropical country?

Taupter writes:
 Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some people would think.

What's that got to do with it seasonal variation in daylight?
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Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-01 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Taupter wrote:
 
 John Hasler wrote:
 
  I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
  daylight savings time in a tropical country?
 
 Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million
 people, a high energy comsumption. There is no outdoors with Coming
 soon... Coca Cola!. Brazil is not one immense rain forest, as some
 people would think.
 
Hey, settle down there, guy!  If I may be so presumptuous, I think
John's point was that there's so little difference in the tropics in
amount of daylight between summer and winter.

True story, not even tangentially on-topic:

In high school I was in a car with 3 other guys going to play tennis
doubles.  I knew two of the other guys, but the 3rd, a friend of one of
the others, was unknown to me (he looked kind of dark; I thought he was
Oriental).

Someone mentioned South America, and I said, Aw, all they do in South
America is blow darts.  (Yes, it was a lousy, bigoted attempt at
humor.)

The dark guy piped up and said, I assure you, we do not just blow
darts.

I was so embarrassed, I didn't even say anything.  I just looked at the
floor.


[OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-09-30 Thread John Hasler
Mario O.de Menezes writes:
 That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from
 year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or
 2 days till it changes.

I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
daylight savings time in a tropical country?
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Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-09-30 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On 30 Sep 1999, John Hasler wrote:

 Mario O.de Menezes writes:
  That is, in Brazil, unfortunately, our daylight saving day changes from
  year to year, and as a consequence, some times my date is wrong for 1 or
  2 days till it changes.
 
 I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with
 daylight savings time in a tropical country?

our government! and they haven't any plans for the future, that is, if I
would like to know the begin and end of the daylight saving in year 2005
I'll have to wait till approximately August/2005 when government will make 
the law :-(


[]s,
Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails
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