[Question] Harddisk Error!!!

2002-04-15 Thread axacheng
Hello List : 

i have some problem as following :

fileserver:/# e2fsck -v -y /dev/hda
bash: /sbin/e2fsck: Input/output error

then,i check /var/log/mesagg

fileserver:/# tail -10 /var/log/messages
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 { 
DriveReady DeviceFault Error }
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { 
DriveStatusError }
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), 
sector 37492776
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: recal_intr: status=0x61 { DriveReady 
DeviceFault Error }
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: recal_intr: error=0x04 { 
DriveStatusError }
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 { 
DriveReady DeviceFault Error }
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { 
DriveStatusError }
Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success

it seems, my harddisk crash?or my kernel problem?

anybody knows how to solve this problem?? @_@

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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!!

2002-04-15 Thread J. Patrick Langian
On Monday 15 April 2002 12:02 am, axacheng wrote:
 Hello List :

 i have some problem as following :

 fileserver:/# e2fsck -v -y /dev/hda
 bash: /sbin/e2fsck: Input/output error

 then,i check /var/log/mesagg

 fileserver:/# tail -10 /var/log/messages
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 {
 DriveReady DeviceFault Error } Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda:
 set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } Apr 15 03:09:37
 fileserver kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), sector 37492776
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: recal_intr: status=0x61 {
 DriveReady DeviceFault Error } Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda:
 recal_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver
 kernel: ide0: reset: success
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 {
 DriveReady DeviceFault Error } Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda:
 set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } Apr 15 03:09:37
 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success

 it seems, my harddisk crash?or my kernel problem?

 anybody knows how to solve this problem?? @_@

I am by no means an expert about HD's, but I just had an IBM TravelStar 48GB 
laptop HD bite the dust with errors identical to these. Bad blocks growing 
rapidly. In fact I am just now getting everything back up on the replacement 
from Dell, but because of many many errors in /usr when tranferring from the 
bad HD to the replacement, I am going to wipe it and reinstall.

I don't know what you're hardware is, and I don't know about generic utils, 
but I used Dell's 32bit Diagnostic util in order to get them to 
replace the drive under warrenty.

Good luck,
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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!!

2002-04-15 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya axacheng

 
 fileserver:/# e2fsck -v -y /dev/hda
 bash: /sbin/e2fsck: Input/output error

you cannot run e2fsck on a disk... you need to run e2fsck on
ext2 partitions
e2fsck /dev/hda1
e2fsck /dev/hda2 ...

NOTE... do NOT run e2sck on your mounted root partition
( read the warnings you would be getting especially root
partition...

( ie... dont do -v -y in your example or you'd
( be creating major problems on your machines

the error messages may be real or self-induced mis-leading errors...

if you do NOT have any of those seek errors in your logs, than
i'd not worry about your disk yet ...

am assuming that there are no such warnings other than
on Mar 15 03:09 which is exactly the same time you rand the
erroneous e2fsck command

if yu do have tons of these error at all times of the day and nights
than you have a dying disks...
- copy off all your data to a new backup disks

- start replacing the ide cables and wiggle it and see
if there is good connections or shorts or other whacky stuff

c ya
alvin


 then,i check /var/log/mesagg
 
 fileserver:/# tail -10 /var/log/messages
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 { 
 DriveReady DeviceFault Error }
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { 
 DriveStatusError }
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:03 (hda), 
 sector 37492776
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: recal_intr: status=0x61 { DriveReady 
 DeviceFault Error }
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: recal_intr: error=0x04 { 
 DriveStatusError }
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: status=0x61 { 
 DriveReady DeviceFault Error }
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: hda: set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { 
 DriveStatusError }
 Apr 15 03:09:37 fileserver kernel: ide0: reset: success
 
 it seems, my harddisk crash?or my kernel problem?
 
 anybody knows how to solve this problem?? @_@
 
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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!!

2002-04-15 Thread ben
On Sunday 14 April 2002 10:40 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
 hi ya axacheng

  fileserver:/# e2fsck -v -y /dev/hda
  bash: /sbin/e2fsck: Input/output error

 you cannot run e2fsck on a disk... you need to run e2fsck on
 ext2 partitions
   e2fsck /dev/hda1
   e2fsck /dev/hda2 ...

   NOTE... do NOT run e2sck on your mounted root partition
   ( read the warnings you would be getting especially root
   partition...

   ( ie... dont do -v -y in your example or you'd
   ( be creating major problems on your machines

 the error messages may be real or self-induced mis-leading errors...

 if you do NOT have any of those seek errors in your logs, than
 i'd not worry about your disk yet ...

 am assuming that there are no such warnings other than
 on Mar 15 03:09 which is exactly the same time you rand the
 erroneous e2fsck command

 if yu do have tons of these error at all times of the day and nights
 than you have a dying disks...
   - copy off all your data to a new backup disks

   - start replacing the ide cables and wiggle it and see
   if there is good connections or shorts or other whacky stuff


can you indicate some point of reference to justify that claim? my system 
runs e2fsck by default after every 20 bootups, and i've yet to notice any 
damage due to that.

ben


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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!! - damage

2002-04-15 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya
 
 can you indicate some point of reference to justify that claim? my system 
 runs e2fsck by default after every 20 bootups, and i've yet to notice any 
 damage due to that.

sorry for the confusing comment...

on your box... try to run e2fsck /dev/hda1   if your / is on /dev/hda1

normal bootups is configured to do the right thing in the
right sequence so is NOT an problem  like a user running
e2fsck on a mounted root partition .,,, a very bad idea...

but if you umount it first.. than its cool
mount -n -o ro /dev/hda1  - take / offline first
e2fsck /dev/hda1
mount /dev/hda1  -- put it back online

and always a good idea to look at any warnings/error messages
spewed out by the system... 

c ya
alvin
 


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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!!

2002-04-15 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
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On Sunday 14 April 2002 10:44 pm, ben wrote:
 On Sunday 14 April 2002 10:40 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
  hi ya axacheng
 
   fileserver:/# e2fsck -v -y /dev/hda
   bash: /sbin/e2fsck: Input/output error
 
  you cannot run e2fsck on a disk... you need to run e2fsck on
  ext2 partitions
  e2fsck /dev/hda1
  e2fsck /dev/hda2 ...
 
  NOTE... do NOT run e2sck on your mounted root partition
  ( read the warnings you would be getting especially root
  partition...
 
  ( ie... dont do -v -y in your example or you'd
  ( be creating major problems on your machines
 
  the error messages may be real or self-induced mis-leading errors...
 
  if you do NOT have any of those seek errors in your logs, than
  i'd not worry about your disk yet ...
 
  am assuming that there are no such warnings other than
  on Mar 15 03:09 which is exactly the same time you rand the
  erroneous e2fsck command
 
  if yu do have tons of these error at all times of the day and nights
  than you have a dying disks...
  - copy off all your data to a new backup disks
 
  - start replacing the ide cables and wiggle it and see
  if there is good connections or shorts or other whacky stuff

 can you indicate some point of reference to justify that claim? my system
 runs e2fsck by default after every 20 bootups, and i've yet to notice any
 damage due to that.

 ben

Greetings Ben:

I think 'boot' is the keyword, where the root file system has yet to be 
mounted.

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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!! - damage

2002-04-15 Thread ben
On Sunday 14 April 2002 11:00 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
 hi ya

  can you indicate some point of reference to justify that claim? my system
  runs e2fsck by default after every 20 bootups, and i've yet to notice any
  damage due to that.

 sorry for the confusing comment...

 on your box... try to run e2fsck /dev/hda1   if your / is on /dev/hda1

 normal bootups is configured to do the right thing in the
 right sequence so is NOT an problem  like a user running
 e2fsck on a mounted root partition .,,, a very bad idea...

 but if you umount it first.. than its cool
   mount -n -o ro /dev/hda1  - take / offline first
   e2fsck /dev/hda1
   mount /dev/hda1  -- put it back online

   and always a good idea to look at any warnings/error messages
   spewed out by the system...


so that e2fsck on an unmounted partition is okay? but to check a mounted 
partition it should be efsck? or what? 

sorry, i haven't been following the thread. i'm not sure if it matters but 
since using the 2.4.17 kernel on my machine , crashes nessecitating the check 
haven't happened, at all.

ben


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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!!

2002-04-15 Thread ben
On Sunday 14 April 2002 11:01 pm, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
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 On Sunday 14 April 2002 10:44 pm, ben wrote:
  On Sunday 14 April 2002 10:40 pm, Alvin Oga wrote:
   hi ya axacheng
  
fileserver:/# e2fsck -v -y /dev/hda
bash: /sbin/e2fsck: Input/output error
  
   you cannot run e2fsck on a disk... you need to run e2fsck on
   ext2 partitions
 e2fsck /dev/hda1
 e2fsck /dev/hda2 ...
  
 NOTE... do NOT run e2sck on your mounted root partition
 ( read the warnings you would be getting especially root
 partition...
  
 ( ie... dont do -v -y in your example or you'd
 ( be creating major problems on your machines
  
   the error messages may be real or self-induced mis-leading errors...
  
   if you do NOT have any of those seek errors in your logs, than
   i'd not worry about your disk yet ...
  
   am assuming that there are no such warnings other than
   on Mar 15 03:09 which is exactly the same time you rand the
   erroneous e2fsck command
  
   if yu do have tons of these error at all times of the day and nights
   than you have a dying disks...
 - copy off all your data to a new backup disks
  
 - start replacing the ide cables and wiggle it and see
 if there is good connections or shorts or other whacky stuff
 
  can you indicate some point of reference to justify that claim? my system
  runs e2fsck by default after every 20 bootups, and i've yet to notice any
  damage due to that.
 
  ben

 Greetings Ben:

 I think 'boot' is the keyword, where the root file system has yet to be
 mounted.

yeah, alvin offered some info on that. the question that remains is what is 
the command to run a check on a mounted system? sorry, i haven't been 
following the thread. somone may have answered this already.

ben


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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!! - damage

2002-04-15 Thread Rich Puhek


ben wrote:

 
 so that e2fsck on an unmounted partition is okay? but to check a mounted
 partition it should be efsck? or what?
 
 sorry, i haven't been following the thread. i'm not sure if it matters but
 since using the 2.4.17 kernel on my machine , crashes nessecitating the check
 haven't happened, at all.
 

Umm no...

First off, fsck just calls the appropriate filesystem-specific
program, which happens to be e2fsck for most of us. I've never heard
of efsck... possible typo?

Second, You always want to fsck unmounted partitions only. If nothing
else, trying to fsck a mounted partition produces the following message:

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
 SEVERE filesystem damage.

Mr. Ts'o (the guy who wrote a large portion of the ext2 stuff in Linux)
knows much more about filesystems in general, and ext2 in particular,
than I do, so I listen to that error message.

Finally, It's not just crashes that will cause the system to run an fsck
at boot time. There's a mount counter that will automatically fsck after
so many reboots (or was it mounts?). I recall the number being set to
20. You can also force checking upon reboot by supplying the -F option
to the shutdown command.

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Re: [Question] Harddisk Error!!! - damage

2002-04-15 Thread ben
On Sunday 14 April 2002 11:35 pm, Rich Puhek wrote:
 ben wrote:
  so that e2fsck on an unmounted partition is okay? but to check a mounted
  partition it should be efsck? or what?
 
  sorry, i haven't been following the thread. i'm not sure if it matters
  but since using the 2.4.17 kernel on my machine , crashes nessecitating
  the check haven't happened, at all.

 Umm no...

 First off, fsck just calls the appropriate filesystem-specific
 program, which happens to be e2fsck for most of us. I've never heard
 of efsck... possible typo?

 Second, You always want to fsck unmounted partitions only. If nothing
 else, trying to fsck a mounted partition produces the following message:

 WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
  SEVERE filesystem damage.

 Mr. Ts'o (the guy who wrote a large portion of the ext2 stuff in Linux)
 knows much more about filesystems in general, and ext2 in particular,
 than I do, so I listen to that error message.

 Finally, It's not just crashes that will cause the system to run an fsck
 at boot time. There's a mount counter that will automatically fsck after
 so many reboots (or was it mounts?). I recall the number being set to
 20. You can also force checking upon reboot by supplying the -F option
 to the shutdown command.

no probs. that's exactly my understanding of the situation; although 
pre-2.4.17 kernels crashed so often, i really thought my disk was fscked. 
since then, it's all been good--so much so that i've been reticent about 
moving up from there. 

thanks for the response.

ben


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