Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-11-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:05:32PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 * Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de [2009 Oct 24 04:45 -0500]:
  On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 19:00 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
   Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to
   transisition from mox format to maildir?  For example, my indox file is
   1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can
   take several minutes before the writing is complete.  (Yes, I should
   manage my inbox better...)
  How do you stand that? I would say it's time for maildirs. ;-)
 
 I just completed the conversion.  Thanks to both of you for suggesting
 the mb2md package.  I had not found that before and it made everything
 a snap.  I embelished Mutt a bit using info from its wiki on Maildir
 and adjusted Procmail as well.  So far, so good.

Since locking isn't needed for maildir, remove the colon after the 0,
i.e

for mbox

:0:

for maildir

:0

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-11-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz [2009 Nov 01 02:06 -0600]:
 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:05:32PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:

  I just completed the conversion.  Thanks to both of you for suggesting
  the mb2md package.  I had not found that before and it made everything
  a snap.  I embelished Mutt a bit using info from its wiki on Maildir
  and adjusted Procmail as well.  So far, so good.
 
 Since locking isn't needed for maildir, remove the colon after the 0,
 i.e
 
 for mbox
 
 :0:
 
 for maildir
 
 :0

Thanks for that tidbit (yes, I'm revisiting the docs).  The only
remaining issue is that locally generated cron mail doesn't have a
date and time (my MTA is the very simple esmtp package) which puts it
at the top of my Inbox.  Not really a problem now that I'm aware of it.
In the mbox format they were appended at the bottom of the file and
Mutt able to determine the date/time of themessage and sort it
accordingly.

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-25 Thread John L Fjellstad
Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info writes:

 Hello,

 I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

 In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with
 color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.

 Is that also possible with mutt?

Tagging is called labeling in mutt.

You can add a label header, X-Label, and have mutt sort (and color) on
that.
if you add the X-Label header, you can limit your view to that label
with ~y pattern (check the mutt documentation).

I basically label it with either maildrop (automatic labeling when mail
comes in), or editlabel(1) script

(1) http://blitiri.com.ar/p/other/mutt-labels/

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-24 Thread Jochen Schulz
Nate Bargmann:

 Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to
 transisition from mox format to maildir? 

$ apt-cache search convert mbox maildir
mb2md - Converting Mbox mailboxes to Maildir format

 I also have my procmail working well sort each mailing list into its
 own mbox file.  How drastic would those changes be?

For existing rules, you just have to append a '/' to the mailbox targets
in your procmail recipes. That tells procmail to save in maildir format
instead of mbox.

A general catch-all rule for Debian mailing lists has already been
posted.

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-24 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 19:00 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to
 transisition from mox format to maildir?  For example, my indox file is
 1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can
 take several minutes before the writing is complete.  (Yes, I should
 manage my inbox better...)
How do you stand that? I would say it's time for maildirs. ;-)

There are plenty of scripts to do this, but maybe:

http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/

just works for you? Just install it with:

# aptitude install mb2md

If there is a better one I would hope that it will be mentioned by
another reader.  You could also just google for mbox2maildir, convert
mbox to maildir and the like.

 I also have my procmail working well sort each mailing list into its
 own mbox file.  How drastic would those changes be?

What change? The conversion itself or adapting the procmail rules to use
maildirs instead of mboxes? Both are not hard, the conversion will take
some time and the latter will be as easy as just appending a '/' at the
end of the rule.

Some mutt unrelated performance tips.

* read: http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#tuning

and compile your own version of mutt that enables tokyocabinet. This is
a bug in Debian which was closed although it shouldn't have been [1].

To compile it yourself you have to:

$ apt-get source mutt

Apply the following patch to mutt-X.Y.Z/debian/rules

--- snip ---
--- mutt-1.5.20/debian/rules2009-10-24 11:39:17.0 +0200
+++ mutt-1.5.20-tokyo/debian/rules  2009-10-07 12:29:00.0 +0200
@@ -10,8 +10,9 @@
 ###
 # header cache backend
 # HCACHE_DB := bdb
-HCACHE_DB := gdbm
+# HCACHE_DB := gdbm
 # HCACHE_DB := qdbm
+HCACHE_DB := tokyocabinet
 ###
 # GPGME backend
 GPGME := --enable-gpgme
@@ -34,6 +35,9 @@
 ifeq ($(HCACHE_DB),qdbm)
 hcache_db := --without-gdbm --without-bdb --without-tokyocabinet
 endif
+ifeq ($(HCACHE_DB),tokyocabinet)
+hcache_db := --without-gdbm --without-qdbm --without-bdb 
--enable-tokyocabinet
+endif
 
 confflags =--prefix=/usr   \
--sysconfdir=/etc   \
--- snip ---

$ dch -l+tokyocabinet
$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
$ dpkg -i mutt-X.Y.Z.deb

I really hope that this wishlist bug gets fixed or at least reopened.

kind regards

Wolodja


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-24 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de [2009 Oct 24 04:45 -0500]:
 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 19:00 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
  Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to
  transisition from mox format to maildir?  For example, my indox file is
  1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can
  take several minutes before the writing is complete.  (Yes, I should
  manage my inbox better...)
 How do you stand that? I would say it's time for maildirs. ;-)

I just completed the conversion.  Thanks to both of you for suggesting
the mb2md package.  I had not found that before and it made everything
a snap.  I embelished Mutt a bit using info from its wiki on Maildir
and adjusted Procmail as well.  So far, so good.

Thanks much!

- Nate 

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-24 Thread Nick Lidakis
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:15:26AM +0300, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
 
 Hum.
 
 Why to use mbox format, as it is horrible if you think about incremental
 backup and anyway it is horrible.
 
 Maildir rocks.

I'm a former Thunderbird user and now  use mutt. I'm currently using
the mbox format, and I notice that I can't read any emails until mutt has
finished downloading from my mail server. Does this have anything to do with
mbox having locks? Can this be rectified with using maildir?  


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote:
 Hello,

 I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

 In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with  
 color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.

 Is that also possible with mutt?

Why not instead use procmail to file all debian mail in a debian
folder.  Here's part of my .procmailrc

PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
HOME=/home/rob
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/.procmaillog

:0:
* ^todebian-u...@lists.debian.org
debian-user

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-23 Thread Jari Fredriksson


24.10.2009 0:00, Rob Owens kirjoitti:
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote:
 Hello,

 I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

 In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with  
 color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.

 Is that also possible with mutt?

 Why not instead use procmail to file all debian mail in a debian
 folder.  Here's part of my .procmailrc
 
 PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
 HOME=/home/rob
 MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
 DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
 LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/.procmaillog
 
 :0:
 * ^todebian-u...@lists.debian.org
 debian-user
 
 -Rob
 
 

Hum.

Why to use mbox format, as it is horrible if you think about incremental
backup and anyway it is horrible.

Maildir rocks.

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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-23 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 17:00 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote:
  Is that also possible with mutt?

 Why not instead use procmail to file all debian mail in a debian
 folder.  Here's part of my .procmailrc

Exactly!

 :0:
 * ^todebian-u...@lists.debian.org
 debian-user

I would suggest using maildir and the following catch-all rule for
debian mailing lists:


:0
* ^X-Mailing-List: debian...@lists.debian.org
* ^X-Mailing-List: debian-\/[-a-zA-Z0-9]+
debian.$MATCH/

That will create maildirs for all debian lists to which you are
subscribed. Combined with the following:

mailboxes `find ~/mail/ -type d -name cur -printf '%h '| sed s/ /\n/g|sort | 
tr '\n' ' '`

somewhere in your muttrc you will never have to make any adjustment for
new maildirs and debian mailing lists you subscribe to.

kind regards

Wolodja


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to
transisition from mox format to maildir?  For example, my indox file is
1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can
take several minutes before the writing is complete.  (Yes, I should
manage my inbox better...)

I also have my procmail working well sort each mailing list into its
own mbox file.  How drastic would those changes be?

- Nate 

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[mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Peter Jordan

Hello,

I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with 
color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.


Is that also possible with mutt?

PJ


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote:
 Hello,

 I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

 In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color
 red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.

 Is that also possible with mutt?

Sure

http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#color


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Peter Jordan

Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST):

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote:

Hello,

I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color
red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.

Is that also possible with mutt?


Sure

http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#color



And how to label mails with tags?

PJ


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Wayne

Peter Jordan wrote:

Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST):
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info 
wrote:

Hello,

I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.

In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with 
color

red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red.

Is that also possible with mutt?


Sure

http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#color



And how to label mails with tags?



For a start
While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page) and do a search for 'tag'.

Wayne


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Peter Jordan

Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST):

Peter Jordan wrote:

Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST):
And how to label mails with tags?



For a start
While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page) and do a search for 'tag'.

Wayne




sorry, but as far as I understand, tagging in mutt means to select 
multiple message for a common action.


I want to label a message with a tag like debian, work, private ASO

PJ


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Tim Tebbit
Peter Jordan wrote:
 Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST):
 Peter Jordan wrote:
 Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST):
 sorry, but as far as I understand, tagging in mutt means to select
 multiple message for a common action.
 
 I want to label a message with a tag like debian, work, private ASO
 
 PJ

I used to have mutt-patched, used sidebar and accomplish the same thing
filtering those messages in to their own respective folders. A little
cleaner imo.

Something like the below worked for me.

mailboxes /Mail/Debian-User
mailboxes /Mail/Mutt-User

# Sidebar Settings

set sidebar_visible
set sidebar_width
# set sedebar_delim

# Sidebar keys

bind index \CP sidebar-prev
bind index \CN sidebar-next
bind index \CO sidebar-open
bind pager \CP sidebar-prev
bind pager \CN sidebar-next
bind pager \CO sidebar-open


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote:
 Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST):

 Peter Jordan wrote:

 Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST):
 And how to label mails with tags?


 For a start
 While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page) and do a search for 'tag'.

 Wayne



 sorry, but as far as I understand, tagging in mutt means to select multiple
 message for a common action.

 I want to label a message with a tag like debian, work, private ASO

As far as I can tell, you're using 'tag' two different ways. There is
the mutt 'tag' (which is close to what you suggest) and then there is
your 'tag', which appears to mean something like 'certain part of an
email (eg, address, phrase in subject, etc.)'. If you want messages
from debian-users@ to be highlighted in red and ones from joeSchmoe to
be in yellow, you can do this.

Wayne's post is suggesting that you do some work and read the
documentation. Your original question has been answered. You can do
the work to find out the details of how to do it.

It's not that hard.


 PJ


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Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags

2009-10-22 Thread Pedro Insua
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt.
 
 In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian
 with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are
 highlighted red.
 
 Is that also possible with mutt?
 

Read the doc of mutt

and well... a line of my muttrc 
color index red black ~h \^To:.*debian-u...@lists\.debian\.org\


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