Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:05:32PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de [2009 Oct 24 04:45 -0500]: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 19:00 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to transisition from mox format to maildir? For example, my indox file is 1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can take several minutes before the writing is complete. (Yes, I should manage my inbox better...) How do you stand that? I would say it's time for maildirs. ;-) I just completed the conversion. Thanks to both of you for suggesting the mb2md package. I had not found that before and it made everything a snap. I embelished Mutt a bit using info from its wiki on Maildir and adjusted Procmail as well. So far, so good. Since locking isn't needed for maildir, remove the colon after the 0, i.e for mbox :0: for maildir :0 -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
* Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz [2009 Nov 01 02:06 -0600]: On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:05:32PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: I just completed the conversion. Thanks to both of you for suggesting the mb2md package. I had not found that before and it made everything a snap. I embelished Mutt a bit using info from its wiki on Maildir and adjusted Procmail as well. So far, so good. Since locking isn't needed for maildir, remove the colon after the 0, i.e for mbox :0: for maildir :0 Thanks for that tidbit (yes, I'm revisiting the docs). The only remaining issue is that locally generated cron mail doesn't have a date and time (my MTA is the very simple esmtp package) which puts it at the top of my Inbox. Not really a problem now that I'm aware of it. In the mbox format they were appended at the bottom of the file and Mutt able to determine the date/time of themessage and sort it accordingly. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info writes: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Tagging is called labeling in mutt. You can add a label header, X-Label, and have mutt sort (and color) on that. if you add the X-Label header, you can limit your view to that label with ~y pattern (check the mutt documentation). I basically label it with either maildrop (automatic labeling when mail comes in), or editlabel(1) script (1) http://blitiri.com.ar/p/other/mutt-labels/ -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Nate Bargmann: Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to transisition from mox format to maildir? $ apt-cache search convert mbox maildir mb2md - Converting Mbox mailboxes to Maildir format I also have my procmail working well sort each mailing list into its own mbox file. How drastic would those changes be? For existing rules, you just have to append a '/' to the mailbox targets in your procmail recipes. That tells procmail to save in maildir format instead of mbox. A general catch-all rule for Debian mailing lists has already been posted. J. -- I often play sports / do exercise. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 19:00 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to transisition from mox format to maildir? For example, my indox file is 1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can take several minutes before the writing is complete. (Yes, I should manage my inbox better...) How do you stand that? I would say it's time for maildirs. ;-) There are plenty of scripts to do this, but maybe: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/ just works for you? Just install it with: # aptitude install mb2md If there is a better one I would hope that it will be mentioned by another reader. You could also just google for mbox2maildir, convert mbox to maildir and the like. I also have my procmail working well sort each mailing list into its own mbox file. How drastic would those changes be? What change? The conversion itself or adapting the procmail rules to use maildirs instead of mboxes? Both are not hard, the conversion will take some time and the latter will be as easy as just appending a '/' at the end of the rule. Some mutt unrelated performance tips. * read: http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#tuning and compile your own version of mutt that enables tokyocabinet. This is a bug in Debian which was closed although it shouldn't have been [1]. To compile it yourself you have to: $ apt-get source mutt Apply the following patch to mutt-X.Y.Z/debian/rules --- snip --- --- mutt-1.5.20/debian/rules2009-10-24 11:39:17.0 +0200 +++ mutt-1.5.20-tokyo/debian/rules 2009-10-07 12:29:00.0 +0200 @@ -10,8 +10,9 @@ ### # header cache backend # HCACHE_DB := bdb -HCACHE_DB := gdbm +# HCACHE_DB := gdbm # HCACHE_DB := qdbm +HCACHE_DB := tokyocabinet ### # GPGME backend GPGME := --enable-gpgme @@ -34,6 +35,9 @@ ifeq ($(HCACHE_DB),qdbm) hcache_db := --without-gdbm --without-bdb --without-tokyocabinet endif +ifeq ($(HCACHE_DB),tokyocabinet) +hcache_db := --without-gdbm --without-qdbm --without-bdb --enable-tokyocabinet +endif confflags =--prefix=/usr \ --sysconfdir=/etc \ --- snip --- $ dch -l+tokyocabinet $ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b $ dpkg -i mutt-X.Y.Z.deb I really hope that this wishlist bug gets fixed or at least reopened. kind regards Wolodja signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
* Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de [2009 Oct 24 04:45 -0500]: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 19:00 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to transisition from mox format to maildir? For example, my indox file is 1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can take several minutes before the writing is complete. (Yes, I should manage my inbox better...) How do you stand that? I would say it's time for maildirs. ;-) I just completed the conversion. Thanks to both of you for suggesting the mb2md package. I had not found that before and it made everything a snap. I embelished Mutt a bit using info from its wiki on Maildir and adjusted Procmail as well. So far, so good. Thanks much! - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:15:26AM +0300, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Hum. Why to use mbox format, as it is horrible if you think about incremental backup and anyway it is horrible. Maildir rocks. I'm a former Thunderbird user and now use mutt. I'm currently using the mbox format, and I notice that I can't read any emails until mutt has finished downloading from my mail server. Does this have anything to do with mbox having locks? Can this be rectified with using maildir? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Why not instead use procmail to file all debian mail in a debian folder. Here's part of my .procmailrc PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin HOME=/home/rob MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/.procmaillog :0: * ^todebian-u...@lists.debian.org debian-user -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
24.10.2009 0:00, Rob Owens kirjoitti: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Why not instead use procmail to file all debian mail in a debian folder. Here's part of my .procmailrc PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin HOME=/home/rob MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/.procmaillog :0: * ^todebian-u...@lists.debian.org debian-user -Rob Hum. Why to use mbox format, as it is horrible if you think about incremental backup and anyway it is horrible. Maildir rocks. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ Are you making all this up as you go along? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 17:00 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Is that also possible with mutt? Why not instead use procmail to file all debian mail in a debian folder. Here's part of my .procmailrc Exactly! :0: * ^todebian-u...@lists.debian.org debian-user I would suggest using maildir and the following catch-all rule for debian mailing lists: :0 * ^X-Mailing-List: debian...@lists.debian.org * ^X-Mailing-List: debian-\/[-a-zA-Z0-9]+ debian.$MATCH/ That will create maildirs for all debian lists to which you are subscribed. Combined with the following: mailboxes `find ~/mail/ -type d -name cur -printf '%h '| sed s/ /\n/g|sort | tr '\n' ' '` somewhere in your muttrc you will never have to make any adjustment for new maildirs and debian mailing lists you subscribe to. kind regards Wolodja signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Since a couple of you are recommending maildir, is there an easy way to transisition from mox format to maildir? For example, my indox file is 1.3 GiB and if I delete a message from more than a few days old it can take several minutes before the writing is complete. (Yes, I should manage my inbox better...) I also have my procmail working well sort each mailing list into its own mbox file. How drastic would those changes be? - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[mutt] label mails with colored tags
Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Sure http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#color -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST): On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Sure http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#color And how to label mails with tags? PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Peter Jordan wrote: Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST): On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Sure http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#color And how to label mails with tags? For a start While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page) and do a search for 'tag'. Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST): Peter Jordan wrote: Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST): And how to label mails with tags? For a start While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page) and do a search for 'tag'. Wayne sorry, but as far as I understand, tagging in mutt means to select multiple message for a common action. I want to label a message with a tag like debian, work, private ASO PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
Peter Jordan wrote: Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST): Peter Jordan wrote: Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST): sorry, but as far as I understand, tagging in mutt means to select multiple message for a common action. I want to label a message with a tag like debian, work, private ASO PJ I used to have mutt-patched, used sidebar and accomplish the same thing filtering those messages in to their own respective folders. A little cleaner imo. Something like the below worked for me. mailboxes /Mail/Debian-User mailboxes /Mail/Mutt-User # Sidebar Settings set sidebar_visible set sidebar_width # set sedebar_delim # Sidebar keys bind index \CP sidebar-prev bind index \CN sidebar-next bind index \CO sidebar-open bind pager \CP sidebar-prev bind pager \CN sidebar-next bind pager \CO sidebar-open -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Peter Jordan usernetw...@gmx.info wrote: Wayne, Thu Oct 22 2009 19:07:04 GMT+0200 (CEST): Peter Jordan wrote: Neal Hogan, Thu Oct 22 2009 18:41:58 GMT+0200 (CEST): And how to label mails with tags? For a start While in mutt, hit F1 (the Manual page) and do a search for 'tag'. Wayne sorry, but as far as I understand, tagging in mutt means to select multiple message for a common action. I want to label a message with a tag like debian, work, private ASO As far as I can tell, you're using 'tag' two different ways. There is the mutt 'tag' (which is close to what you suggest) and then there is your 'tag', which appears to mean something like 'certain part of an email (eg, address, phrase in subject, etc.)'. If you want messages from debian-users@ to be highlighted in red and ones from joeSchmoe to be in yellow, you can do this. Wayne's post is suggesting that you do some work and read the documentation. Your original question has been answered. You can do the work to find out the details of how to do it. It's not that hard. PJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [mutt] label mails with colored tags
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 06:31:40PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Hello, I plan to migrate from thunderbird to mutt. In thunderbird it is possible to define custom tags (e.g. debian with color red), so that the mails labeled with debian are highlighted red. Is that also possible with mutt? Read the doc of mutt and well... a line of my muttrc color index red black ~h \^To:.*debian-u...@lists\.debian\.org\ PJ -- Porqué loitar e matar, se podes amar e sonhar /\ \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org