Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing
I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious reasons, given the limitations of that NDA). I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works. Since I don't know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone does know, is it all that great a technology ? It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even harder. Just wondering out loud -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote: I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious reasons, given the limitations of that NDA). I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works. Since I don't I think that it is necessary, that hardware manufacturers want sell their products to users of free OS's. I think they don't believe that this group can really play a role on the market. Maybe the OpenHardware project should be wider popularized... http://www.debian.org/OpenHardware It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even harder. As far as I know the initiator of I2O is M$... It explains everything. Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing
Hello! The guys from I2O left the specifications a good while on their server for anonymous ftp :) Many people that writes hardware drivers for linux should have this document, I can imagine there was a good rush on their server before they removed the access to it... I2O is neither a problem nor a matter for Linux... On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote: I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious reasons, given the limitations of that NDA). I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works. Since I don't know much about I2O (I didn't feel like spending the $250 for a temporary membership in their club... go figure), I wonder, if anyone does know, is it all that great a technology ? It really looks like I2O is a concerted effort to keep free software and OS's like Linux off the first tier by making driver development even harder. Just wondering out loud -dh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing
The i20 group left their specification on their anonymous FTP server and we all have a copy now. They then took it back off the server. Go figure. We have no problem with them now, there is no possible non-disclosure case and when the hardware comes out we will write drivers for it. Thanks Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debian.org/support.html Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEW PHONE NUMBER: 510-620-3502 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Question: I2O, and how Linux is dealing
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dan Hugo wrote: I was just reading over the NDA agreement (for fun) that the I2O organization (http://www.i2osig.org/) makes people sign before they THINK about the technology in I2O, and I recall reading somewhere that the Linux community was NOT in favor of the whole concept (for obvious reasons, given the limitations of that NDA). I am just wondering if there is going to be a general boycott I2O hardware (or at least ignoring the IOP and the driver model), or whether a reverse-engineering effort is planned or in the works. Since I don't I think that it is necessary, that hardware manufacturers want sell their products to users of free OS's. I think they don't believe that this group can really play a role on the market. Maybe the OpenHardware project should be wider popularized... http://www.debian.org/OpenHardware http://open-i2o.abies.com/ Louis. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .