Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-21 Thread Todd Tyrone Fries
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (renald loignon)
  May I ask, in all seriousness, and without a trace of sarcasm, where in
  the world (BUT preferably in the Debian installation instructions) one
  is expected to find this information?  I was used to the old
  cdu31a=0xPORT,IRQ syntax from the boot prompt, or as an append=...
  line in /etc/lilo.conf
 
 I don't see that it is documented at all outside of the kernel source.
 And if you think that this is a serious problem in Debian, it is. And it's
 not going to be helped unless more people like you volunteer to work on the
 documentation.

Is there any chance you have checked the bootparm-howto?

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw ??  If it is not in there, I would suggest that
would be the best place for it.
--
Todd Fries .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-21 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Todd  Is there any chance you have checked the bootparm-howto?
  Todd 
  Todd http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw ??  

If you install Debian's doc-linux package, they are also at
/usr/doc/HOWTO/*

As the doc-linux package is updated monthly with the upstream HOWTOs, you
should always look for the newest one in unstable/binary-all/doc. Safe to
install on any system as it's only text. Hard to put a bug into that :-)

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-20 Thread Bruce Perens
Susan:
 I'm getting confused.  Isn't the purpose of /usr/lib/module_help/arguments
 to document the arguments that can be given to a module when it is
 activated?

I don't think the cdu31a information is in there - we must have missed
it when we created modconf. Also, not everyone uses modconf, which is the
only thing that displays the module_help files.

We don't have a person who follows the kernel and keeps an accurate list
of module arguments. Also, Lars took on modconf when I had too much to
do, but he was less than enthusiastic about it. We could use another
volunteer to be the module mayven.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Bruce Perens:
 We don't have a person who follows the kernel and keeps an accurate list
 of module arguments. Also, Lars took on modconf when I had too much to
 do, but he was less than enthusiastic about it. We could use another
 volunteer to be the module mayven.

Ilucius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) took it from me, but I'm not sure if we
bothered to tell anyone. (Ilucius, perhaps you can confirm this.)

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Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-20 Thread llucius
On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

 Bruce Perens:
  We don't have a person who follows the kernel and keeps an accurate list
  of module arguments. Also, Lars took on modconf when I had too much to
  do, but he was less than enthusiastic about it. We could use another
  volunteer to be the module mayven.
 
 Ilucius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) took it from me, but I'm not sure if we
 bothered to tell anyone. (Ilucius, perhaps you can confirm this.)
 
Yep, your right.  I neglected to inform anyone.  (face red in shame)  
I've been playing around with this architecture independence stuff that I 
COMPLETELY forgot about it.  But, since I'll be without a modem for a 
few days, I'll take the time to scan the kernel source for any 
additions/differences.

Leland

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Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-20 Thread renald loignon
Susan:
 I'm getting confused.  Isn't the purpose of /usr/lib/module_help/arguments
 to document the arguments that can be given to a module when it is
 activated?

I don't think the cdu31a information is in there - we must have missed
it when we created modconf. Also, not everyone uses modconf, which is the
only thing that displays the module_help files.

We don't have a person who follows the kernel and keeps an accurate list
of module arguments. Also, Lars took on modconf when I had too much to
do, but he was less than enthusiastic about it. We could use another
volunteer to be the module mayven.

I hear you Bruce.  I most certainly do not wish to put down the fine efforts
that you and the rest of the Debian group are putting in.  Also, I consider
it quite likely that I will eventually get involved (again) in some
non-profit group or other having to do with computer software and/or the
Internet. (In fact, been there, done that, if you will give some
consideration to some 5 years of involvement in Fidonet at many levels).
Honesty, whether I join the Linux camp or another will depend on the success
of my current efforts to bootstrap myself into this community.

For now, most of my on-line interactions are done with Eudora for Windows
(email), Free Agent (news) , WsFTP and Netscape for Windows.  Thus, as a
example of obstacle to my progression, I cannot easily grab a set of
HTMLized FAQs from the Net for local perusal because they use long
filenames.  Also, I am constrained to getting the msdos-i386 branch of the
distribution sites, even though dselect seems to be somewhat reluctant to
use these DOS filenames...  And if I start seriously considering the
purchase of a CD copy of the distribution, to give dselect the long
filenames it prefers, I have to face a non-documented module argument...

taking on the whining voice of Gilda Radner's Roseanne Roseannadanna

When it's not one thing, it's another...   ;-)))

Hey, don't let me spoil your fun.  Whenever I point out a flaw in the Debian
distribution, I do it in the spirit of providing useful feedback, and with
no malice whatsoever.  Consider it my first level of contribution to your
fine work.  Hopefully, in the fullness of time I will feel confident and
knowledgeable enough to participate in more significant ways.  In the
meantime, I'm still here, so despite my setbacks, I haven't given up

Regards,

renald



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-20 Thread Bruce Perens
Lars:
 Ilucius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) took it from me
From: llucius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yep, your right.  I neglected to inform anyone.  (face red in shame)  
 I've been playing around with this architecture independence stuff that I 
 COMPLETELY forgot about it.

Leland, of course I'm happy to get any work you do on this now. You
are also one of the lead programmers on the 68k port, and you are a lead
programmer on the issue of architecture independence for Debian.
One of our problems is that a few key volunteers do a _lot_ of stuff,
and tasks should be distributed better so that those key people can continue
to have lives and health :-) So I won't frown if you eventually find someone
else to take on the job of tracking modules.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-19 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (renald loignon)
 May I ask, in all seriousness, and without a trace of sarcasm, where in the
 world (BUT preferably in the Debian installation instructions) one is
 expected to find this information?  I was used to the old
 cdu31a=0xPORT,IRQ syntax from the boot prompt, or as an append=... line
 in /etc/lilo.conf

I don't see that it is documented at all outside of the kernel source.
And if you think that this is a serious problem in Debian, it is. And it's
not going to be helped unless more people like you volunteer to work on the
documentation.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-19 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Bruce Perens wrote:
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (renald loignon)
  May I ask, in all seriousness, and without a trace of sarcasm, where in the
  world (BUT preferably in the Debian installation instructions) one is
  expected to find this information?  I was used to the old
  cdu31a=0xPORT,IRQ syntax from the boot prompt, or as an append=... line
  in /etc/lilo.conf
 
 I don't see that it is documented at all outside of the kernel source.

I'm getting confused.  Isn't the purpose of /usr/lib/module_help/arguments
to document the arguments that can be given to a module when it is activated?

?,
Susan Kleinmann



module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-18 Thread Michael_Laing
I am installing debian 1.1.1 from the August Pacific Hi Tech CD on my Gateway
200 PS-60.

Things go OK until I try to add the cdu31a module to support the CDU33A CDROM
drive in the Gateway: it fails to insert.

The drive is defaulted onto 0x340; when I try to add a parameter to the module
insertion it either fails the same way or gives me an invalid parameter
message.

So perhaps I am providing the parameter in the wrong format (could not find any
documentation with the distribution on the format of module parameters) - or
something else is wrong.

Everything works OK using Slackware 3.0 kernel 1.2.13 with cdu31a support in
the kernel.

Thanks,
Michael Laing



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-18 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Things go OK until I try to add the cdu31a module to support the CDU33A CDROM
 drive in the Gateway: it fails to insert.
 The drive is defaulted onto 0x340; when I try to add a parameter to the module
 insertion it either fails the same way or gives me an invalid parameter
 message.

Use the argument cdu31a_port=0x340 when you install the module. It also
understands cdu31a_irx=N.

Bruce
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Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-18 Thread Pablo Bianucci
Hi Michael!

On Sun, 18 Aug 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The drive is defaulted onto 0x340; when I try to add a parameter to the module
 insertion it either fails the same way or gives me an invalid parameter
 message.

Have you tried with the following parameter?

cdu31a_port=0x340

Bye  Good Luck!

Pablo B.



Re: module cdu31a fails on insert

1996-08-18 Thread renald loignon
Use the argument cdu31a_port=0x340 when you install the module. It also
understands cdu31a_irx=N.

May I ask, in all seriousness, and without a trace of sarcasm, where in the
world (BUT preferably in the Debian installation instructions) one is
expected to find this information?  I was used to the old
cdu31a=0xPORT,IRQ syntax from the boot prompt, or as an append=... line
in /etc/lilo.conf