Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
ray r...@aarden.us wrote:

 Am I missing something here?

Of course you are, in one of previous posts you got a solution but looks
like you missed it :)

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Bruno Schneider
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 9:01 PM, ray wrote:

 I did not find the fglrx package in Synaptic.  I did find some multiarch 
 packages which I installed.  But the initial error of not finding the 
 architecture was persistent.


It is in the non-free section. Perhaps you have not include that
section in your sources.

It seems you were trying to install a 32bits module on a 64bits system.

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread ray
Marko,

 Of course you are, in one of previous posts you got a solution but looks
 like you missed it :)

Thank you for responding.  I have overlooked it a couple times now; going back 
through, I don't see it.  Please suggest what it was, I can't see what I am 
missing.

Ray


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/13/2014 08:01 PM, ray wrote:

Do you have Synaptic installed?? Use that to hunt down and install your
packages. If the wheezy version fails you then try the run package ...as
a last resort. Or, upgrade to jessie to legally get the latest and
greatest. That is what I did to get the newer versions of my nVidia
drivers and VLC. As a plus, you stay within the deb package scheme of
things. Just make darn sure you do the upgrade in text terminal mode,
with X stopped totally.

I did not find the fglrx package in Synaptic.  I did find some multiarch 
packages which I installed.  But the initial error of not finding the 
architecture was persistent.
Open synaptic again and type amd in the search bar. I'm seeing over a 
dozen fglrx related packages. If you have a 64bit install you really 
don't want a 32bit graphical system, especially if you use DKMS to 
update your driver during kernel upgrades.



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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 April 2014 19:27:31 ray wrote:
  Would it be worth just trying installing multiarch?  With one of
  the apt family.  (I use aptitude).  I agree that it is not
  obviously

 # apt-get install multiarch
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 E: Unable to locate package multiarch

lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search multiarch
p   binutils-multiarch   - Binary utilities that 
support multi-arch targe
p   binutils-multiarch:i386  - Binary utilities that 
support multi-arch targe
p   gdb-multiarch- The GNU Debugger (with 
support for multiple ar
p   gdb-multiarch:i386   - The GNU Debugger (with 
support for multiple ar
v   multiarch-binutils   -
v   multiarch-binutils:i386  -
i A multiarch-support- Transitional package to 
ensure multiarch compa
p   multiarch-support:i386   - Transitional package to 
ensure multiarch compa
v   pango1.0-multiarch-modver-1.6.0  -
v   pango1.0-multiarch-modver-1.6.0:i386 -
lisi@Tux-II:~$

You have to find the exact package and install it by name, not just 
plug a word in and panic!!  As you see, I have multiarch-support 
installed.  If you _can't_ see that I have multiarch-support 
installed, and I am assuming too much, then I suggest that you read 
up a bit on how to manage package managers.

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-14 Thread ray
 You have to find the exact package and install it by name, not just 
 
 plug a word in and panic!!  As you see, I have multiarch-support 
 
 installed.  If you _can't_ see that I have multiarch-support 
 
 installed, and I am assuming too much, then I suggest that you read 
 
 up a bit on how to manage package managers.

Thank you for the follow-up.  I apologize for being so terse.  Researching 
multiarch turned up no single package or even a suggestion of multiple specific 
files.  I did find:

dpkg --add-architecture i386

This seemed like a multiarch solution but in fact did not resolve the ATI 
installation problem.   The only clue I got was through Synaptic.

I found multiarch content using Synaptic.  There were several packages as you 
indicated.  When all packages were selected, some were marked in red.  So I 
backed out and found which were not compatible due to red marks.  It was not 
obvious why they were not compatible; when reviewing the descriptions, some had 
the same description but responded differently to selection matching.  Through 
trial and error, I found the maximum set of components that could be mutually 
selected.  

Obviously I didn't know what I was doing; just because I got all green lights 
didn't tell me the selection was the solution.  Most troubling was with the 
maximum count, those left out were i386.  This just doesn't seem correct; why 
is the alternate architecture (i386) not selectable?  It would seem that 
without the i386 components, it really wouldn't be a multiarch solution.  Or 
did I miss something (again)?  Is there a sequence that these need to be 
installed under?

Ray


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 April 2014 03:28:42 ray wrote:
   Error: unsupported architecture:
 
  I haven't been reading this properly.  Sorry. :-(  Are your
  distro,
 
  your driver and your CPU all the same architecture?

 Yes, from the dpkg --print-architecture -- amd64, the CPU is an
 Intel i7-3930K, and the Catalyst package is
 amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run.

 It is complaining about the architecture, not the distro version.
 
  Have you got multiarch installed?

 Not that I know of.  So I did the following:

 # dpkg --print-architecture
 amd64

 # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
 # dpkg --add-architecture i386
 # dpkg --print-architecture
 amd64

 # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
 i386

 apt-get update
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
 ...snip
 Fetched 6,647 kB in 18s (357 kB/s)
 Reading package lists... Done


 Then:

 # sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg
 Debian/stable Created directory fglrx-install.hrcfIz
 Verifying archive integrity... All good.
 Uncompressing AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver-13.251...
 ...
 Generating package: Debian/stable
 ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1:
 ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-architecture: not found
 Error: unsupported architecture:
 Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.hrcfIz

 I have looked but can't find what 'dpkg-architecture: not found'
 means, none the less, how to address it.

Would it be worth just trying installing multiarch?  With one of the 
apt family.  (I use aptitude).  I agree that it is not obviously 
needed, but it is apparently not there, and the problem now is 
something to do with the architecture.

Lisi


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread ray
 Would it be worth just trying installing multiarch?  With one of the 
 apt family.  (I use aptitude).  I agree that it is not obviously 

# apt-get install multiarch
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package multiarch

https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation says:
  Using multiarch

  To enable the installation of multiarch binaries, apt and dpkg need   
configuration changes. For example, if you have an amd64 system that you want 
to install i386 libraries onto, do the following:

  multiarch support is present from dpkg 1.16.2 (or 1.16.0 in Ubuntu) and apt 
0.8.13.

  run dpkg --add-architecture i386

  run apt-get update to refresh the package cache with the newly added 
architecture 

This seems to only provide for dpkg multiarch awareness and not the 
implementation.  From the above referenced webpage, it looks like the packages 
(Catalyst) must be built to use this.

Just for record, https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping addresses how 
to assemble multiarch awareness but all the content was produced 3 years ago 
and appears to no longer be needed due to Debain maturation.
https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#wheezy
I updated to:

deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free

Ran:aptitude update

with no errors,
and:
aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') 
fglrx-driver

which ran without error except for the initial emission:
No candidate version found for fglrx-driver
No candidate version found for fglrx-driver
So I tried:
# apt-get install fglrx-modules-dkms
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-modules-dkms


Similarly,
# apt-get install fglrx-driver
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package fglrx-driver is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'fglrx-driver' has no installation candidate

I did see a reference to i386 files on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian:
# sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  hyphen-en-us libfs6 x11-apps x11-session-utils x11-xfs-utils xinit xorg
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  task-desktop* task-gnome-desktop* xserver-xorg-video-all*
  xserver-xorg-video-ati* xserver-xorg-video-radeon*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,998 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 137565 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing task-gnome-desktop ...
Removing task-desktop ...
Removing xserver-xorg-video-all ...
Removing xserver-xorg-video-ati ...
Removing xserver-xorg-video-radeon ...
Purging configuration files for xserver-xorg-video-radeon ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...

And followed this up with:
sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-glx fglrx-atieventsd 
fglrx-modules-dkms

which produced:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package fglrx-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

Package fglrx-driver is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'fglrx-driver' has no installation candidate
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-control
E: Package 'fglrx-glx' has no installation candidate
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-atieventsd
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-modules-dkms

From the same site, to get ia32 libraries:
sudo apt-get install fglrx-glx-ia32
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package fglrx-glx-ia32 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'fglrx-glx-ia32' has no installation candidate

It looks like there is a challenge with doing something with fglrx.

Am I missing something here?

I found an alternative at:  
https://wiki.debian.org/Installing_ATI_fglrx_legacy_with_latest_kernel

This is a year old but it addressing building the driver package.  Is there any 
problem with this approach?

Thanks for all the input,
Ray







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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/13/2014 02:27 PM, ray wrote:
Am I missing something here? I found an alternative at: 
https://wiki.debian.org/Installing_ATI_fglrx_legacy_with_latest_kernel 
This is a year old but it addressing building the driver package. Is 
there any problem with this approach? Thanks for all the input, Ray Ray 
Do you have Synaptic installed?? Use that to hunt down and install your 
packages. If the wheezy version fails you then try the run package ...as 
a last resort. Or, upgrade to jessie to legally get the latest and 
greatest. That is what I did to get the newer versions of my nVidia 
drivers and VLC. As a plus, you stay within the deb package scheme of 
things. Just make darn sure you do the upgrade in text terminal mode, 
with X stopped totally. Ric


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread ray
 Do you have Synaptic installed?? Use that to hunt down and install your 
 packages. If the wheezy version fails you then try the run package ...as 
 a last resort. Or, upgrade to jessie to legally get the latest and 
 greatest. That is what I did to get the newer versions of my nVidia 
 drivers and VLC. As a plus, you stay within the deb package scheme of 
 things. Just make darn sure you do the upgrade in text terminal mode, 
 with X stopped totally. 

I did not find the fglrx package in Synaptic.  I did find some multiarch 
packages which I installed.  But the initial error of not finding the 
architecture was persistent.

Ray


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 April 2014 04:04:29 ray wrote:
 Well, I am running wheezy, Debian 7.4.  So I tried:
 sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg
 Debian/experimental

This doesn't make sense.  Wheezy is Stable, so surely:

sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/stable

assuming that line to be otherwise correct.

 Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use
 --listpkg to identify valid distro versions

Yes, the error was that you needed stable, certainly 
not experimental!

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread ray
 
 Yes, the error was that you needed stable, certainly 
  not experimental!
 
 
OK, I tried:
Generating package: Debian/stable
./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1: ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 
dpkg-architecture: not found
Error: unsupported architecture: 

Just to confirm:
lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:Debian
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy)
Release:7.4
Codename:wheezy

Yes, wheezy is stable; today.  But at the time the driver package was built, 
what would have been 'stable'?

Ray


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT)
ray r...@aarden.us wrote:

 ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1: ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 
 dpkg-architecture: not found

Install 'dpkg-dev' package to solve this.

Reco


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-12, ray r...@aarden.us wrote:
  
 Yes, wheezy is stable; today.  But at the time the driver package was
 built, what would have been 'stable'?


I deduce squeeze.


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Bruno Schneider
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:38 AM, ray wrote:

 Yes, wheezy is stable; today.  But at the time the driver package was built, 
 what would have been 'stable'?


Ray, why don't you install the fglrx driver from repositories?

I'm having my own problems with that driver, but since I use testing,
I'll post them in a different thread.

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 April 2014 15:38:14 ray wrote:
 Yes, wheezy is stable; today.  But at the time the driver package
 was built, what would have been 'stable'?

Try testing.  If the driver is an old driver, Wheezy may have been 
Testing when the driver was released.  Wheezy was released as Stable 
on 4th May 2013.

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 April 2014 15:38:14 ray wrote:
 OK, I tried:
 Generating package: Debian/stable
 ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1:
 ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-architecture: not found

 Error: unsupported architecture: 
(my stars)

I haven't been reading this properly.  Sorry. :-(  Are your distro, 
your driver and your CPU all the same architecture?  It is 
complaining about the architecture, not the distro version.

Have you got multiarch installed?

It *was* complainung about the distro version:

Generating package: Debian/experimental
Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, 
use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions

Anyhow, it looks as though you do indeed need Wheezy - you have got 
one step further down the line, it has accepted your distro version 
and is now complaining about architecture.  Try installing multiarch.

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ERRATA - Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 April 2014 23:18:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Saturday 12 April 2014 15:38:14 ray wrote:
  OK, I tried:
  Generating package: Debian/stable
  ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1:
  ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-architecture: not found
 
  Error: unsupported architecture:

 (my stars)

 I haven't been reading this properly.  Sorry. :-(  Are your distro,
 your driver and your CPU all the same architecture?  It is
 complaining about the architecture, not the distro version.

 Have you got multiarch installed?

 It *was* complainung about the distro version:
  complaining

 Generating package: Debian/experimental
 Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported,
 use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions
For Wheezy read stable: 
   
 Anyhow, it looks as though you do indeed need Wheezy - you have got   
 
 one step further down the line, it has accepted your distro version
 and is now complaining about architecture.  Try installing
 multiarch.

 Lisi


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-12 Thread ray
  Error: unsupported architecture: 
 
 I haven't been reading this properly.  Sorry. :-(  Are your distro, 
 
 your driver and your CPU all the same architecture?  

Yes, from the dpkg --print-architecture -- amd64, the CPU is an Intel 
i7-3930K, and the Catalyst package is amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run.


It is complaining about the architecture, not the distro version.

 Have you got multiarch installed?

Not that I know of.  So I did the following:

# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64

# dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64

# dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386

apt-get update
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
...snip
Fetched 6,647 kB in 18s (357 kB/s) 
Reading package lists... Done


Then:

# sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/stable
Created directory fglrx-install.hrcfIz
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver-13.251...
...
Generating package: Debian/stable
./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1: ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 
dpkg-architecture: not found
Error: unsupported architecture: 
Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.hrcfIz

I have looked but can't find what 'dpkg-architecture: not found' means, none 
the less, how to address it.

Ray


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AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-11 Thread ray
The netinstall did not recognize the HD 7770 card.  

The AMD Catalyst notes page states the supported distros to be: 
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Suite 6.3 and 6.4 
SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3 
OpenSUSE 11.4 and 12.1 
Ubuntu 12.04.2 and 13.04  

So I looked for what needs to be done to get drivers working on Debian 7.4.

I downloaded the Catalyst installation per:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-Linux-Installer-Notes.aspx#

Then:
sudo sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --listpkg

which produces:

Debian Packages:
Debian/sid
Debian/unstable
Debian/etch
Debian/stable
Debian/lenny
Debian/testing
Debian/experimental

Well, I am running wheezy, Debian 7.4.  So I tried:
sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/experimental

which produced:
Generating package: Debian/experimental
Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to 
identify valid distro versions

I tried the same thing with Debian/wheezy, and got the same message.

Any idea how I may get the card to work in 7.4?

What may be the challenges of installing one of:
Debian/lenny
Debian/testing
Debian/experimental

then installing the Catalyst package, then upgrading to 7.4?
 
Ray

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GPU Sapphire 7770, RAM 32GB, 1 TB HDD, 4 ea 64 GB SSD, PSU 850W, 
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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-11 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014, ray wrote:

 The netinstall did not recognize the HD 7770 card.  
 
 [snip]

 Then:
 sudo sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --listpkg
 
 which produces:
 
 Debian Packages:
 Debian/sid
 Debian/unstable
 Debian/etch
 Debian/stable
 Debian/lenny
 Debian/testing
 Debian/experimental
 
 Well, I am running wheezy, Debian 7.4.  So I tried:
 sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg
 Debian/experimental
 [snip]
 Any idea how I may get the card to work in 7.4?

Have you tried the Debian/stable package?  Wheezy is the current Stable.

B


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-11 Thread Gary Dale

On 11/04/14 11:04 PM, ray wrote:

The netinstall did not recognize the HD 7770 card.

The AMD Catalyst notes page states the supported distros to be:
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Suite 6.3 and 6.4
SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 SP3
OpenSUSE 11.4 and 12.1
Ubuntu 12.04.2 and 13.04

So I looked for what needs to be done to get drivers working on Debian 7.4.

I downloaded the Catalyst installation per:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-Linux-Installer-Notes.aspx#

Then:
sudo sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --listpkg

which produces:

Debian Packages:
 Debian/sid
 Debian/unstable
 Debian/etch
 Debian/stable
 Debian/lenny
 Debian/testing
 Debian/experimental

Well, I am running wheezy, Debian 7.4.  So I tried:
sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Debian/experimental

which produced:
Generating package: Debian/experimental
Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to 
identify valid distro versions

I tried the same thing with Debian/wheezy, and got the same message.

Any idea how I may get the card to work in 7.4?

What may be the challenges of installing one of:
Debian/lenny
Debian/testing
Debian/experimental

then installing the Catalyst package, then upgrading to 7.4?
  
Ray


If you read what you wrote, it says that the driver supports Debian/testing and 
Debian/stable. While these are the same and Debian/jessie and Debian/wheezy, it 
doesn't mean that the script recognizes them as that. Try using the same 
wording that the .run script uses for your version (which is not experimental 
BTW).

However, the install should recognize a 7770 card at least enough to install. 
At worst it would be a slow VESA mode. Then you have the choice of upgrading to 
the open source driver or the closed source one. I prefer the open source one - 
less hassle - but you may have a different need.



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