Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 09:34 -1000, Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas wrote:
 On 5/11/06, John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris Abajian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Sound used to work fine.  Running Sarge distro kernel 2.6.8-2-386,
   Alsa was happy.  Life was good.  Sndstat said:
 
  snip
  
   Upgraded to new kernel, 2.6.14.7, built from source starting with
   old .config.  Everything looked good...

Why are you compiling your kernel? You aren't using the latest
kernel.org sources. There is no reason then.

If you MUST get a newer kernel, you will need to update the version of
udev as any kernel 2.6.12(really 2.6.11, but stay away from that one) or
later has to have a 090 or newer version of udev. Along with many other
things.

Gone are the days of just compiling a new kernel and plopping it in.

  Are you using udev?  If you are, did you upgrade your udev?
 
 I don't know what do you mean with crash.

Crash, where did he say that? No you need to update the udev for your
machine. if you use 2.6.14 again, you must have AT LEAST 090 version of
udev.

 But any time I update kernel and reboot with the new one, I need to
 run alsaconf again to set the right driver and modify the modules
 stuff (which is an easy proccess through alsaconf).  If I don't do
 this sound doesn't work. If you have tried this already, please
 disregard my comment.  If not, then it's an easy trial.  Now if this
 is the problem, I think there's no way to launch alsaconf on the
 kernel upgrade itself since a reboot is required to launch the new
 kernel, so I believe this has to be manually done, well if you
 experience this problem I do on any kernel upgrade.  This is
 independant of udev usage for me.  I had to do this in old hotplug
 times, and I have to do it in new udev times as well...

I am running sid with the 2.6.16 kernel from Debian. I ran alsaconf once
a long time ago. Back around 2.4.22 being in testing and no 2.6 at all.
change the hardware out from underneath the Installation. Since, I have
only had to fitz with modules only when I change the hardware, I think
it'd be good for you to somehow switch to Sid... and run the latest
stuff.

Only issue I had was getting nVidia stuff to play nice back then. It is
a whole different ballgame now.

BTW, Hotplug the package is deprecated in etch. 
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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-11 Thread John L Fjellstad
Chris Abajian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sound used to work fine.  Running Sarge distro kernel 2.6.8-2-386,
 Alsa was happy.  Life was good.  Sndstat said:

snip

 Upgraded to new kernel, 2.6.14.7, built from source starting with
 old .config.  Everything looked good...

Are you using udev?  If you are, did you upgrade your udev?

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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-11 Thread Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas

On 5/11/06, John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris Abajian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sound used to work fine.  Running Sarge distro kernel 2.6.8-2-386,
 Alsa was happy.  Life was good.  Sndstat said:

snip

 Upgraded to new kernel, 2.6.14.7, built from source starting with
 old .config.  Everything looked good...

Are you using udev?  If you are, did you upgrade your udev?


I don't know what do you mean with crash.  But any time I update
kernel and reboot with the new one, I need to run alsaconf again to
set the right driver and modify the modules stuff (which is an easy
proccess through alsaconf).  If I don't do this sound doesn't work.
If you have tried this already, please disregard my comment.  If not,
then it's an easy trial.  Now if this is the problem, I think there's
no way to launch alsaconf on the kernel upgrade itself since a reboot
is required to launch the new kernel, so I believe this has to be
manually done, well if you experience this problem I do on any kernel
upgrade.  This is independant of udev usage for me.  I had to do this
in old hotplug times, and I have to do it in new udev times as well...

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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-11 Thread Chris Abajian
alsaconf works great.  finds the device, says to have fun.

No sound.


On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 09:34 -1000, Javier-Elias Vasquez-Vivas wrote:
 On 5/11/06, John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris Abajian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Sound used to work fine.  Running Sarge distro kernel 2.6.8-2-386,
   Alsa was happy.  Life was good.  Sndstat said:
 
  snip
  
   Upgraded to new kernel, 2.6.14.7, built from source starting with
   old .config.  Everything looked good...
 
  Are you using udev?  If you are, did you upgrade your udev?
 
 I don't know what do you mean with crash.  But any time I update
 kernel and reboot with the new one, I need to run alsaconf again to
 set the right driver and modify the modules stuff (which is an easy
 proccess through alsaconf).  If I don't do this sound doesn't work.
 If you have tried this already, please disregard my comment.  If not,
 then it's an easy trial.  Now if this is the problem, I think there's
 no way to launch alsaconf on the kernel upgrade itself since a reboot
 is required to launch the new kernel, so I believe this has to be
 manually done, well if you experience this problem I do on any kernel
 upgrade.  This is independant of udev usage for me.  I had to do this
 in old hotplug times, and I have to do it in new udev times as well...
 
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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-11 Thread Linas Žvirblis
 alsaconf works great.  finds the device, says to have fun.
 
 No sound.

Did you unmute devices in alsamixer?


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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-11 Thread Chris Abajian
yes

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 23:29 +0300, Linas Žvirblis wrote:
  alsaconf works great.  finds the device, says to have fun.
  
  No sound.
 
 Did you unmute devices in alsamixer?
 
 
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 with the orders of the army or police on nightly patrols unless 
 they are accompanied by coalition forces working in that area.”

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   Source  translation at Baghdad Burning,
   http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/


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Re: Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-11 Thread Chris Abajian
Gave up.  

Tried unsuccessfully to compile earlier versions of alsa into the 2.6.14
kernel, but it turned into an epic.  Backed the kernel up to 2.6.8 and
it's working fine.

On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 16:09 -0700, Chris Abajian wrote:
 There's a lot of postings about this problem, but when I read them they
 all seem slightly different from each other... I'm getting very
 frustrated (or I wouldn't be posting to this list).
 
 Sound used to work fine.  Running Sarge distro kernel 2.6.8-2-386,
 Alsa was happy.  Life was good.  Sndstat said:
 
 $ cat /dev/sndstat
 Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.4 emulation code)
 Kernel: Linux ws-cabajian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005
 i686
 Config options: 0
 
 Installed drivers:
 Type 10: ALSA emulation
 
 Card config:
 Intel ICH5 at 0xda00, irq 201
 
 Audio devices:
 0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)
 
 Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
 
 Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
 
 Timers:
 7: system timer
 
 Mixers:
 0: Analog Devices AD1981B
 
 
 Upgraded to new kernel, 2.6.14.7, built from source starting with
 old .config.  Everything looked good...
 
 alsaconfig is happy, finds card.  can store and restore settings.
 
 NO SOUND.  Players play, buttons push, EQ graphics dance, everything
 seems OK except NO SOUND.
 
 $cat /dev/sndstat 
 Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.10rc1 emulation code)
 Kernel: Linux ws-cabajian 2.6.14.7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 9 10:05:37 PDT
 2006 i686
 Config options: 0
 
 Installed drivers:
 Type 10: ALSA emulation
 
 Card config:
 Intel ICH5 with AD1981B at 0xda00, irq 209
 
 Audio devices:
 0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)
 
 Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
 
 Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
 
 Timers:
 7: system timer
 
 Mixers:
 0: Analog Devices AD1981B
 
 
 Reboot to old kernel, everything works ok.
 
 Is it the IRQ difference?  Where the heck is the config file, maybe if I
 change it manually?
 
 
 
 -- 
 “The Ministry of Defense requests that civilians do not comply 
  with the orders of the army or police on nightly patrols unless 
  they are accompanied by coalition forces working in that area.”
 
  - Iraqi TV public service announcement, air date 27-Mar-06.  
Source  translation at Baghdad Burning,
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
 
 
-- 
“The Ministry of Defense requests that civilians do not comply 
 with the orders of the army or police on nightly patrols unless 
 they are accompanied by coalition forces working in that area.”

 - Iraqi TV public service announcement, air date 27-Mar-06.  
   Source  translation at Baghdad Burning,
   http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/


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Alsa breaks after kernel upgrade

2006-05-09 Thread Chris Abajian
There's a lot of postings about this problem, but when I read them they
all seem slightly different from each other... I'm getting very
frustrated (or I wouldn't be posting to this list).

Sound used to work fine.  Running Sarge distro kernel 2.6.8-2-386,
Alsa was happy.  Life was good.  Sndstat said:

$ cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.4 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux ws-cabajian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005
i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
Intel ICH5 at 0xda00, irq 201

Audio devices:
0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers:
0: Analog Devices AD1981B


Upgraded to new kernel, 2.6.14.7, built from source starting with
old .config.  Everything looked good...

alsaconfig is happy, finds card.  can store and restore settings.

NO SOUND.  Players play, buttons push, EQ graphics dance, everything
seems OK except NO SOUND.

$cat /dev/sndstat 
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.10rc1 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux ws-cabajian 2.6.14.7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 9 10:05:37 PDT
2006 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
Intel ICH5 with AD1981B at 0xda00, irq 209

Audio devices:
0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers:
0: Analog Devices AD1981B


Reboot to old kernel, everything works ok.

Is it the IRQ difference?  Where the heck is the config file, maybe if I
change it manually?



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“The Ministry of Defense requests that civilians do not comply 
 with the orders of the army or police on nightly patrols unless 
 they are accompanied by coalition forces working in that area.”

 - Iraqi TV public service announcement, air date 27-Mar-06.  
   Source  translation at Baghdad Burning,
   http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/


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