Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[hohe72]

Hi,
here is no such thing like a Computer book what covers everything.

So go for an general purpose UNIX book.
Then for an advanced one covering Linux or Debian. Maybe an Admin Guide.
Because an Beginners Guide cannot cover every Shell available in detail,
you might buy a guide to your favoured shell.
For every day problems do the error on Google, cause some hints are
volatile.
Save money by installing man pages.

So first try to get an overview, then zoom in the topics needed. Go to
a book store and to scan through a book. Amazon will not help here.

This is an general advice,
Holger

ps:
Same goes for programming languages:
First go for language basics (the standard).
Then for advanced UNIX-programming or the Windows programming
or whatever you do.
And don't hesitate to by a book for C++ Templates only -- if required.
Here is no way it's being covered at a beginners guide usefully.



On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:08:27 +1200
Eric Richards <2eric.richa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello
> As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or Linux
> for that matter.
> 
> I found one the other day Debian 12,  it only had a one star review
> and the buyer wishes he could get his money back
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From Eric.*
> 
> 
> *Sent from Raspberry Pi 5 *
> 
> 
> *Now we have wasted all our money on Widescreen TV and can not afford
> a holiday, a lot of news clips are shown in narrow vision from cell
> phones, it looks like the TV news producers have lost their marbl*
> *es. *
> 
> *Pedestrian "Cross Now" button is NOT wired to a pedestrian counter,
> it works on traffic flow, in fact it can change between school
> holidays and school days,  *
> 
> 
> *Sometimes the button does not work, because people like wearing it
> out. *



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Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Jonathan Dowland]

I can hardly believe it's been 20 years since you wrote that.
We're all getting old!

It's good to see your name on the mailing lists again!

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Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Michel Verdier]

On 2024-08-25, Eric Richards wrote:

> Hello
> As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or Linux for
> that matter.
>
> I found one the other day Debian 12,  it only had a one star review and the
> buyer wishes he could get his money back

Very good book based on bullseye, freely available online, as paperback
or as ebook
https://debian-handbook.info/

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Joe B]

On August 26, 2024 9:10:48 PM PDT, Martin Krafft  wrote:


>I'll send you a book if you pay postage from Germany. Commands have evolved. 
>The described ones still work, but there are now improved tools/commands like 
>apt, which are not covered.
>

How do we set this up?

How much is postage ?  Email me the information.

Can't wait.

Joe

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Joe B]

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 1:06 AM martin f krafft  wrote:
>
> Regarding the following, written by “jeremy ardley” on 2024-08-26 at 09:58 
> Uhr GMT:
>
> It’s almost 20 years old now but it’s still pretty relevant since Debian 
> hasn’t changed that much.


> True. However, systemd is also not Debian-specific, and just like I never 
> covered specifics of the Linux kernel or GNU utilities, I am no sure how much 
> of systemd would actually have its place in this book.
>
> That said, there’s a lot of coverage of init.d and related Debian hacks, such 
> as update-rc.d, which are now no longer really relevant.

I just found out about this book today and it seems interesting. Even
though we are using systemd now im assuming the package commands are
the same right ? aptitude and apt ? IF so i will get the book. I'm new
to debian and have so many bookmarks now and i will keep going till
i'm good at it and can answer questions that people have

Thanks

Joe B

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[martin f krafft]

Regarding the following, written by "jeremy ardley" on 2024-08-26 at 09:58 Uhr 
GMT:
It's almost 20 years old now but it's still pretty relevant since 
Debian hasn't changed that much.


20 years old means it's missing all the systemd stuff. That's quite 
important.


True. However, systemd is also not Debian-specific, and just like I 
never covered specifics of the Linux kernel or GNU utilities, I am 
no sure how much of systemd would actually have its place in this 
book.


That said, there's a lot of coverage of `init.d` and related Debian 
hacks, such as `update-rc.d`, which are now no longer really 
relevant.


So yeah, the book is ancient, no irrelevant, but I've also moved on 
with life and won't have the time to write an updated version. If 
anyone cared enough to do so, I'd happily put you in touch with Open 
Source Press (the original publisher) and/or NoStarch.


Take care,

--
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: :'  :  proud Debian developer
`. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck
  `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems
 
on the other hand, you have different fingers.

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[jeremy ardley]

On 26/8/24 08:17, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:

I really like The Debian System by Martin Krafft

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1593270690/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1 



It's almost 20 years old now but it's still pretty relevant since Debian 
hasn't changed that much.




20 years old means it's missing all the systemd stuff. That's quite 
important.


[Off topic]


*/Pedestrian "Cross Now" button is NOT wired to a pedestrian
counter, it works on traffic flow, in fact it can change between
school holidays and school days, /*

*/Sometimes the button does not work, because people like wearing it
out. //
/*


Pedestrian cross buttons are used as an input to a computer that 
determines what next phase to set and when. If you don't press it, you 
won't ever get a pedestrian phase unless the phase is linked to a 
traffic movement phase.


Pedestrian buttons are push to break rather than push to make. You can 
push them as hard as you like and it won't make an difference. They wear 
out only because people whack and kick them so much.

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[David]

On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 19:17 -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> I really like The Debian System by Martin Krafft 
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1593270690/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> 
> It's almost 20 years old now but it's still pretty relevant since
> Debian hasn't changed that much.

In fact, No Starch Press is an excellent resource on anything open
source.
My first call.

https://nostarch.com/

Cheers!
> 
> On August 24, 2024 11:08:27 AM CDT, Eric Richards
> <2eric.richa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello
> > As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or
> > Linux for
> > that matter.
> > 
> > I found one the other day Debian 12,  it only had a one star review
> > and the
> > buyer wishes he could get his money back
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > *From Eric.*
> > 
> > 
> > *Sent from Raspberry Pi 5 *
> > 
> > 
> > *Now we have wasted all our money on Widescreen TV and can not
> > afford a
> > holiday, a lot of news clips are shown in narrow vision from cell
> > phones,
> > it looks like the TV news producers have lost their marbl*
> > *es. *
> > 
> > *Pedestrian "Cross Now" button is NOT wired to a pedestrian
> > counter, it
> > works on traffic flow, in fact it can change between school
> > holidays and
> > school days,  *
> > 
> > 
> > *Sometimes the button does not work, because people like wearing it
> > out.
> > *

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Ryan Nowakowski]

I really like The Debian System by Martin Krafft 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1593270690/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's almost 20 years old now but it's still pretty relevant since Debian hasn't 
changed that much.

On August 24, 2024 11:08:27 AM CDT, Eric Richards <2eric.richa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>Hello
>As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or Linux for
>that matter.
>
>I found one the other day Debian 12,  it only had a one star review and the
>buyer wishes he could get his money back
>
>
>
>
>
>*From Eric.*
>
>
>*Sent from Raspberry Pi 5 *
>
>
>*Now we have wasted all our money on Widescreen TV and can not afford a
>holiday, a lot of news clips are shown in narrow vision from cell phones,
>it looks like the TV news producers have lost their marbl*
>*es. *
>
>*Pedestrian "Cross Now" button is NOT wired to a pedestrian counter, it
>works on traffic flow, in fact it can change between school holidays and
>school days,  *
>
>
>*Sometimes the button does not work, because people like wearing it out.
>*

Re: Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sun, Aug 25, 2024 at 04:08:27AM +1200, Eric Richards wrote:
> Hello
> As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or Linux for
> that matter.
> 
> I found one the other day Debian 12,  it only had a one star review and the
> buyer wishes he could get his money back
> 

debian-handbook package also available as a printed book

https://debian-handbook.info/ should give more details.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater 
(amaca...@debian.org)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *From Eric.*
> 
> 
> *Sent from Raspberry Pi 5 *
> 
> 
> *Now we have wasted all our money on Widescreen TV and can not afford a
> holiday, a lot of news clips are shown in narrow vision from cell phones,
> it looks like the TV news producers have lost their marbl*
> *es. *
> 
> *Pedestrian "Cross Now" button is NOT wired to a pedestrian counter, it
> works on traffic flow, in fact it can change between school holidays and
> school days,  *
> 
> 
> *Sometimes the button does not work, because people like wearing it out.
> *

Any good Debian books highly recommended

[Eric Richards]

Hello
As the Subject says Any good Debian books highly recommended or Linux for
that matter.

I found one the other day Debian 12,  it only had a one star review and the
buyer wishes he could get his money back





*From Eric.*


*Sent from Raspberry Pi 5 *


*Now we have wasted all our money on Widescreen TV and can not afford a
holiday, a lot of news clips are shown in narrow vision from cell phones,
it looks like the TV news producers have lost their marbl*
*es. *

*Pedestrian "Cross Now" button is NOT wired to a pedestrian counter, it
works on traffic flow, in fact it can change between school holidays and
school days,  *


*Sometimes the button does not work, because people like wearing it out.
*

Re: Any good Debian books?

[Dave McFadden]

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Try to look in debian's home page.

> I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. 
> Does one exist? I tried meta keyword searches as above and
> didn't come up with anything specific to Debian.
> I have "Using Linux" published by QUE - Slackware
> and "Linux Unleashed" published by Sams - Redhat5.1, OpenLinux and 
Caldera.
> 
> Anything for Debian?
> 
> 
> I've still got some hurtles to overcome.
> 
> Read my CD ROM. Dial my ISP. You know the basics.
> 
> 
> 
> MAN pages are good, but I would like a good book.
> 




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I have "The Debian Linus User's Guide" from Linux Press. I picked it up at 
Borders. It's fairly basic, covering the info that you could get from the 
website, but in more detail. I would rate it as a good beginner's level book.

Dave McFadden



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Re: Any good Debian books?

[shaul]

Try to look in debian's home page.

> I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. 
> Does one exist? I tried meta keyword searches as above and
> didn't come up with anything specific to Debian.
> I have "Using Linux" published by QUE - Slackware
> and "Linux Unleashed" published by Sams - Redhat5.1, OpenLinux and Caldera.
> 
> Anything for Debian?
> 
> 
> I've still got some hurtles to overcome.
> 
> Read my CD ROM. Dial my ISP. You know the basics.
> 
> 
> 
> MAN pages are good, but I would like a good book.
> 

Re: Any good Debian books?

[David B. Teague]

On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. 

Since I have no connection to either Linux Press nor to Dale Sheetz, I
will give a plug for a book I have found to be very useful. 

Dale Sheetz is one of the Debian Developers.  He has written "The Debian
Linux User's Guide," billed as the "Official Debian GNU/Linux"book. The
2nd edition, for Debian 2.0, is published by the Linux Press, ISBN
0-9659575-0-0.  It is very clear. 

The price is still about $38 US, and include 3 CD, 2.0 binary, source, and
extras.  For details see http://www.linuxpress.com. 

If anyone knows of any other Debian Linux books, I'd like to hear from
you. 

--David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux: Because I want to be there TODAY! Besides, reboots are
  for hardware and kernel upgrades.

Linux books (was Re: Any good Debian books?)

[Anthony Wong]

On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 11:24:38PM +, ktb wrote:
|
|I have looked at several books and from a beginners perspective the only ones 
I have
|found worth my money, at this point are:
|"Linux in a Nutshell," O'reilly Jessica Hekman
|"Running Linux," O'reilly  Matt Welsh & Lar Kaufman
|"A Practical Guide to Linux," Mark Sobell

Yesterday I saw a Linux book in a book store, I flipped through the book
and my first impression is it's quite suitble for beginners. I can't
commend more as I have not read it thoroughly. FYI, the book is called
"Linux A-Z", by Phil Cornes, Prentice Hall. The price is about US$25.

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Re: Any good Debian books?

[ktb]

I haven't been in this game too long but the only Debian specific book I have 
come
across can be found here:
http://www.linuxpress.com/001002.htm

I have looked at several books and from a beginners perspective the only ones I 
have
found worth my money, at this point are:
"Linux in a Nutshell," O'reilly Jessica Hekman
"Running Linux," O'reilly  Matt Welsh & Lar Kaufman
"A Practical Guide to Linux," Mark Sobell

Hope that helps,
Kent


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> I am searching for a good Debian Linux book.
> Does one exist? I tried meta keyword searches as above and
> didn't come up with anything specific to Debian.
> I have "Using Linux" published by QUE - Slackware
> and "Linux Unleashed" published by Sams - Redhat5.1, OpenLinux and Caldera.
>
> Anything for Debian?
>
> I've still got some hurtles to overcome.
> Read my CD ROM. Dial my ISP. You know the basics.
>
> MAN pages are good, but I would like a good book.
>
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Any good Debian books?

[n0cwr]

I am searching for a good Debian Linux book. 
Does one exist? I tried meta keyword searches as above and
didn't come up with anything specific to Debian.
I have "Using Linux" published by QUE - Slackware
and "Linux Unleashed" published by Sams - Redhat5.1, OpenLinux and Caldera.

Anything for Debian?

I've still got some hurtles to overcome.
Read my CD ROM. Dial my ISP. You know the basics.


MAN pages are good, but I would like a good book.


**
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tfs.net/~n0cwr/main.html
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Vegetarians!? Ha! If plants weren't aware of being eaten! Why has
some of them evolved thorns!
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