Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:43:04PM -0700, Christopher Nelson wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:55:01PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: snip about DAE That seems to explain my playout problems. The remaining issue, which seems to be unrelated, is my inability to rip... have you tried using 'abcde'? it seems more fault-tolerant than KAudioCreator was on my system. it also may give you more info on the problem? (haven't had a problem ripping w/ it, so I don't know it's error output) No, I wasn't aware of it. But I have tried it now, and it does indeed seem to work a whole lot better than the KDE one. I guess my Laptop just doesn't like these KDE tools It would be nice to get to the bottom of why the default ripper doesn't work some time, but at least I have something that works. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Audio CD problems..
I am experiencing a strange problem accessing audio CD's on Fujitsu P7120 running Etch using the internal CD/DVD drive. Kernel is 2.6.15. I just tried playing an audio CD, which I wasn't expecting to have trouble with because I know my audio is working (I have been playing WAV files using xmms and movies using totem from the HDD just fine, and the CD seems ok as I can mount data CDs and DVDs with the CD/DVD drive. However if I attempt to play an audio CD using KsCD, it displays the track name and duration correctly and the counter counts up plausibly, but no audio is produced, even with all faders fully up. If I attempt to rip a track using kaudiocreator it performs its freedb.com lookup successfully and displays the tracks, but the rip failes. Using KDE or GNOME I get an error box stating: The file or folder /Wav/Track 01.wav does not exist regardless of the encoder setting or default temp directory. If I run it under fvwm, I see the same error box, and in the xterm window see the messages: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kaudiocreator kbuildsycoca running... Launched ok, pid = 7431 Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom... Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface /dev/scd0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM. Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface generic device: /dev/sg0 ioctl device: /dev/scd0 Found an accessible SCSI CDROM drive. Looking at revision of the SG interface in use... SG interface version 3.5.33; OK. CDROM model sensed sensed: MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-832S 1.01 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) I have tried an external USB CD/DVD, but KsCD produces the same result, which seems to indicate that it isn't a drive specific problem. One last clue, when I am attempting to rip a track, I see messages such as the following in /var/log/messages: sg_write: data in/out 56/56 bytes for SCSI command 0x12--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 26/26 bytes for SCSI command 0x5a--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly Anyone have any idea what might be going on here? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 15:49 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: I am experiencing a strange problem accessing audio CD's on Fujitsu P7120 running Etch using the internal CD/DVD drive. Kernel is 2.6.15. I just tried playing an audio CD, which I wasn't expecting to have trouble with because I know my audio is working (I have been playing WAV files using xmms and movies using totem from the HDD just fine, and the CD seems ok as I can mount data CDs and DVDs with the CD/DVD drive. However if I attempt to play an audio CD using KsCD, it displays the track name and duration correctly and the counter counts up plausibly, but no audio is produced, even with all faders fully up. If I attempt to rip a track using kaudiocreator it performs its freedb.com lookup successfully and displays the tracks, but the rip failes. Using KDE or GNOME I get an error box stating: The file or folder /Wav/Track 01.wav does not exist regardless of the encoder setting or default temp directory. If I run it under fvwm, I see the same error box, and in the xterm window see the messages: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kaudiocreator kbuildsycoca running... Launched ok, pid = 7431 Checking /dev/cdrom for cdrom... Testing /dev/cdrom for cooked ioctl() interface /dev/scd0 is not a cooked ioctl CDROM. Testing /dev/cdrom for SCSI interface generic device: /dev/sg0 ioctl device: /dev/scd0 Found an accessible SCSI CDROM drive. Looking at revision of the SG interface in use... SG interface version 3.5.33; OK. CDROM model sensed sensed: MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-832S 1.01 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) I have tried an external USB CD/DVD, but KsCD produces the same result, which seems to indicate that it isn't a drive specific problem. One last clue, when I am attempting to rip a track, I see messages such as the following in /var/log/messages: sg_write: data in/out 56/56 bytes for SCSI command 0x12--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 26/26 bytes for SCSI command 0x5a--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly sg_write: data in/out 12/12 bytes for SCSI command 0x43--guessing data in; program kio_audiocd not setting count and/or reply_len properly Anyone have any idea what might be going on here? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com Are you able to play it in Totem? On my system Totem is the only player that plays audio CDs. Haven't bothered to fix the others - maybe one day. If Totem also doesn't play, I have no more ideas. -- Szia: Nyizsa. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:26:38PM +0300, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: Are you able to play it in Totem? On my system Totem is the only player that plays audio CDs. Haven't bothered to fix the others - maybe one day. If Totem also doesn't play, I have no more ideas. Hi Nyizsnyik, Yes, you are right - Totem does appear to play CD's just fine. (although it does seem to be lacking freedb support for nameing tracks) Is this a known problem with Debian Etch then? Have you found anything that can rip successfully? I hadn't tried totem before because I had already discovered that it couldn't play movies from DVD. I can see and mount DVDs OK: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /media/cdrom0 audio_ts video_ts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df /media/cdrom0 Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/scd0 2877072 2877072 0 100% /media/cdrom0 But there seems to be a problem with encryption if I try to play. The messages in the terminal window include: libdvdnav: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. and there is a popup box says The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss? The mentioned lib does not seem to be in the standard libraries - anyone know if this will fix the problem, and where I can find it if so? For what it is worth, I tried booting Ubuntu Dapper and the CD player/ripper seemed to work flawlessly (although I still seem to be missing a pluggin for playing DVDs from totem)... Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Yes, you are right - Totem does appear to play CD's just fine. (although it does seem to be lacking freedb support for nameing tracks) my first guess is that the other players are trying to play with a different sound system than totem. for example, maybe they are trying to play through alsa when you have esd running or some similar conflict. but that's only a guess. But there seems to be a problem with encryption if I try to play. The messages in the terminal window include: libdvdnav: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. and there is a popup box says The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss? The mentioned lib does not seem to be in the standard libraries - anyone know if this will fix the problem, and where I can find it if so? add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ [sarge|etch|sid] main to your sources.list to get libdvdcss from Marillat's repository. This will allow you to decrypt dvd's. Provided of course that you are not in a DMCA affect country :) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 17:05 +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:26:38PM +0300, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote: Are you able to play it in Totem? On my system Totem is the only player that plays audio CDs. Haven't bothered to fix the others - maybe one day. If Totem also doesn't play, I have no more ideas. Hi Nyizsnyik, Yes, you are right - Totem does appear to play CD's just fine. (although it does seem to be lacking freedb support for nameing tracks) Is this a known problem with Debian Etch then? Have you found anything that can rip successfully? I hadn't tried totem before because I had already discovered that it couldn't play movies from DVD. I can see and mount DVDs OK: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /media/cdrom0 mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /media/cdrom0 audio_ts video_ts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df /media/cdrom0 Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/scd0 2877072 2877072 0 100% /media/cdrom0 But there seems to be a problem with encryption if I try to play. The messages in the terminal window include: libdvdnav: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. and there is a popup box says The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss? The mentioned lib does not seem to be in the standard libraries - anyone know if this will fix the problem, and where I can find it if so? For what it is worth, I tried booting Ubuntu Dapper and the CD player/ripper seemed to work flawlessly (although I still seem to be missing a pluggin for playing DVDs from totem)... Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com libdvdcss is part of the libdvdread3 package. I confess I have never tried to watch a DVD on Debian. (I prefer the big screen and 5.1 sound...) I use Sarge anyway, so it seems to be a common problem both in Sarge and in Etch. -- Szia: Nyizsa. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:45:38AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Yes, you are right - Totem does appear to play CD's just fine. (although it does seem to be lacking freedb support for nameing tracks) my first guess is that the other players are trying to play with a different sound system than totem. for example, maybe they are trying to play through alsa when you have esd running or some similar conflict. but that's only a guess. I've tried with both KDE and fvwm, where the latter should normally be free of any sound daemons. But there seems to be a problem with encryption if I try to play. The messages in the terminal window include: libdvdnav: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. and there is a popup box says The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss? The mentioned lib does not seem to be in the standard libraries - anyone know if this will fix the problem, and where I can find it if so? add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ [sarge|etch|sid] main to your sources.list to get libdvdcss from Marillat's repository. This will allow you to decrypt dvd's. Yep, that seemed to do the trick - thanks! One minor glitch that still remains with the DVD playout is that totem fails with an assertion error if I don't manually mount the media first: (totem:7453): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed I would normally classify any assert failure as a program fault rather than usage error. The error box contains the text: Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab but I have: fujitsu:/etc/apt# grep scd0 /etc/fstab /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 which lets me do the mount as a mortal user quite happily.. Provided of course that you are not in a DMCA affect country :) Don't get me started on that.. :-/ soapbox I live in a country that participated in the Neuremburg trials, which as far as I can see means that I am not only allowed, but obliged on pain of death to disobey any laws passed by the current regime which I consider immoral and unjust. If DMCA were addopted by my government and the effect is to make it illegal to play DVDs which I have legally purchased, I would considder that immoral, and hence would have no choice but to install the software. Not to mention the abomination that is DVD regional coding, for which I believe the recording industry should be prosecuted and made to forfiet all copyright claims to material so encoded as a punishment for their restrictive trade practices /soapbox Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:45:38AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Yes, you are right - Totem does appear to play CD's just fine. (although it does seem to be lacking freedb support for nameing tracks) my first guess is that the other players are trying to play with a different sound system than totem. for example, maybe they are trying to play through alsa when you have esd running or some similar conflict. but that's only a guess. I've tried with both KDE and fvwm, where the latter should normally be free of any sound daemons. well, are you using a mix of alsa and oss maybe? maybe some mixing problem? just shooting in the dark as I've lost the original point here. :-P oh, and how are you getting into fvwm? if its through *dm then I bet you are running a sound daemon... if through startx, then probably not. .02 A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:20:16 +0200 Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However if I attempt to play an audio CD using KsCD, it displays the track name and duration correctly and the counter counts up plausibly, but no audio is produced, even with all faders fully up. Try Digital-Aufdio-Extraction (DAE). In xmms you have to open the preferences dialog, and configure libcdaudio.so, there is a switch between analog and digital extraction. That helped on my Sony Vaio R505R/GK. HTH Evgeni -- ^^^| Evgeni -SargentD- Golov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) d(O_o)b | PGP-Key-ID: 0xAC15B50C -|- | WWW: http://www.die-welt.net ICQ: 54116744 / \| IRC: #sod @ irc.german-freakz.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:38:37PM +0200, Evgeni Golov wrote: On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:20:16 +0200 Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However if I attempt to play an audio CD using KsCD, it displays the track name and duration correctly and the counter counts up plausibly, but no audio is produced, even with all faders fully up. Try Digital-Aufdio-Extraction (DAE). In xmms you have to open the preferences dialog, and configure libcdaudio.so, there is a switch between analog and digital extraction. That helped on my Sony Vaio R505R/GK. Thanks Evgeni, The xmms tip produced an interesting clue about my playback problems. Selecting Digital audio extraction resulting in successful playout, but switching back to Analog got me back to plausible looking silence Looks to me suspiciously like some apps defaulting to analogue playout function which exists in the drive, but is not wired through to the audio hardware in this laptop... I managed to get KDE's KsCD to work as well by switching to digital playout, but it was frustratingly difficult because the 'configure' dialogue box was a non-resizeable window that was to big for my 1280x768 LCD display, meaning that the 'OK' button was unreachable. I ended up having to change the configuration using a fvwm session, using the virtual windows. Ironic that I couldn't setup a KDE app using KDE :-/ That seems to explain my playout problems. The remaining issue, which seems to be unrelated, is my inability to rip... Where is DAE to be found? I didn't find anything in apt? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 10:59:41AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:45:38AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 05:05:47PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: Yes, you are right - Totem does appear to play CD's just fine. (although it does seem to be lacking freedb support for nameing tracks) my first guess is that the other players are trying to play with a different sound system than totem. for example, maybe they are trying to play through alsa when you have esd running or some similar conflict. but that's only a guess. I've tried with both KDE and fvwm, where the latter should normally be free of any sound daemons. well, are you using a mix of alsa and oss maybe? maybe some mixing problem? just shooting in the dark as I've lost the original point here. :-P oh, and how are you getting into fvwm? if its through *dm then I bet you are running a sound daemon... if through startx, then probably not. .02 It is being started by a display manager (gdm currently), but generally fvwm doesn't try to mess with sound itself, and ps doesn't show anything having been added to the default environment. In any case, it seems that the problem was that some apps were unexpectedly defaulting to analog playout, and that doesn't seem to be wired up on my laptop. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD problems..
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 07:55:01PM +0100, Digby Tarvin wrote: snip about DAE That seems to explain my playout problems. The remaining issue, which seems to be unrelated, is my inability to rip... have you tried using 'abcde'? it seems more fault-tolerant than KAudioCreator was on my system. it also may give you more info on the problem? (haven't had a problem ripping w/ it, so I don't know it's error output) -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Beatles: Paul McCartney's old back-up band. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 06:41:16PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: Yeah I read that. That was before I realized I could take a look at the /etc/group file to see what groups I belonged to (and I'm sure there's a more refined method for that too ;^) ), so I wasn't really sure what groups I was a member of, and omitting one by mistake didn't sound too appealing. man groups
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On 07/16/01 21:12:16 -0400, Andy Saxena wrote: The easiest way I know is to manually edit the file /etc/group. Hmmm. I didn't think of that! ;-) Okay, will do. Thanks! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
excerpted from usermod(8): -G group,[...] A list of supplementary groups which the user is also a member of. Each group is separated from the next by a comma, with no intervening whitespace. The groups are subject to the same restrictions as the group given with the -g option. If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group Vineet * Mark Wagnon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010715 22:56]: On 07/16/01 07:20:47 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that group instead of disk. Thanks for the heads up. I know how to add a user to a group, but how does one remove a user from a group? I'm looking at the man page for usermod right now, and not really feeling too confident that it's going to do what I want. I don't want to remove myself from other groups, especially my default group. Can you (or anyone else) give me a hint? Thanks again! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp4mLdD8Bd1z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 10:47:24PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: On 07/16/01 07:20:47 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that group instead of disk. Thanks for the heads up. I know how to add a user to a group, but how does one remove a user from a group? I'm looking at the man page for usermod right now, and not really feeling too confident that it's going to do what I want. I don't want to remove myself from other groups, especially my default group. Have a look at the attached mail that I send you. HTH -- Gerard From robi Mon Jun 18 22:33:14 2001 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from pop.free.fr by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:33:14 + (GMT) Received: (qmail 16449 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2001 23:50:37 - Received: from murphy.debian.org (216.234.231.6) by mrelay2-2.free.fr with SMTP; 17 Jun 2001 23:50:37 - Received: (qmail 23773 invoked by uid 38); 17 Jun 2001 23:50:11 - X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 23722 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2001 23:50:09 - Received: from studsv07.studserv.uni-stuttgart.de (129.69.21.37) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 17 Jun 2001 23:50:09 - Received: from c5lx [129.69.192.25] by studsv07.studserv.uni-stuttgart.de with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A22E3262004A; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:50:06 +0200 Received: from tma by c5lx with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15BmKH-5y-00 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:51:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:51:29 +0200 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: XMMS: root can / user can not listen Audio CDs Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:39:07PM -0400 From: Thomas Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/153582 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1395 Lines: 40 On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 06:39:07PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote: Thomas Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TM Adding user to group DISK solved my problem. You almost definitely don't want to add users to group disk, since that gives them read/write access to raw devices for all of your disks (meaning that they can directly read the bits off the hard disk, meaning that they can effectively ignore filesystem permissions). Better to change the group owner of your cdrom device to 'cdrom' with chgrp, and then add users to group 'cdrom'. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ O.k. Gerard -- glad to help also a bit: I removed user tma from group disk by gpasswd -d tma disk and I changed the owner of my cdrom-drive /hdc (until now owner being disk) by chgrp -c cdrom /dev/hdc to cdrom (adding -c for getting informed what happens) User tma has been a member of group cdrom before so after these changes XMMS now may be enjoyed by tma too without letting him destroy important data. Thanks also to you David for your valuable advice. This was my first time on this list and I am impressed by speed and quality of answers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On 07/17/01 13:55:01 -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: excerpted from usermod(8): excerpt snipped Yeah I read that. That was before I realized I could take a look at the /etc/group file to see what groups I belonged to (and I'm sure there's a more refined method for that too ;^) ), so I wasn't really sure what groups I was a member of, and omitting one by mistake didn't sound too appealing. Thanks! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On 07/18/01 01:00:19 +, Robin Gerard wrote: Have a look at the attached mail that I send you. HTH That was really nice. I've saved that message for future reference. It worked like a charm and I'm in business and my system is safer for it too. Thanks! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
Perhaps the problem is that you are trying to access an IDE device (/dev/hdc or whatever your CD-ROM drive is) as a normal user that is not part of the disk group? Try adding yourself to disk, and see if that helps. On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:47:32PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting audio CDs to play as an unpriviledged user. I am able to do so as root though, so it looks to me like a permission problem. I am able to send various audio files to /dev/dsp and /dev/audio as root. I have sound working in Ximian GNOME as a normal user. I added my normal user account to the audio group, thinking that this would solve the problem, but it didn't seem to. I have changed permissions on a couple of the audio device files, but I still seem to be having some trouble. changing the file access permissions for /dev/mixer to 666 allowed me to start gmix (I was not able to before). I'm just a little leary of changing all the files' permissions, which was the primary reason for adding myself to the audio group. -- ___ ___ / _ | / _ \ Ari Pollak - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.aripollak.com / __ |/ ___/ /_/ |_/_/ Sorry... my mind has a few bad sectors.
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On 07/16/01 00:18:38 -0400, Ari Pollak wrote: Perhaps the problem is that you are trying to access an IDE device (/dev/hdc or whatever your CD-ROM drive is) as a normal user that is not part of the disk group? Try adding yourself to disk, and see if that helps. I saw that the device I was trying to access belonged to the disk group. I didn't add myself because I wasn't sure about it from a security standpoint. Also, I didn't know if there was a different approach. I just added myself and logged in again. I'm now able to play my audio CDs. Thanks for the help! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 10:01:16PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: On 07/16/01 00:18:38 -0400, Ari Pollak wrote: Perhaps the problem is that you are trying to access an IDE device (/dev/hdc or whatever your CD-ROM drive is) as a normal user that is not part of the disk group? Try adding yourself to disk, and see if that helps. I saw that the device I was trying to access belonged to the disk group. I didn't add myself because I wasn't sure about it from a security standpoint. Also, I didn't know if there was a different approach. It is not good, from a security standpoint. Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that group instead of disk. I just added myself and logged in again. I'm now able to play my audio CDs. Cheers, Joost
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On 07/16/01 07:20:47 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that group instead of disk. Thanks for the heads up. I know how to add a user to a group, but how does one remove a user from a group? I'm looking at the man page for usermod right now, and not really feeling too confident that it's going to do what I want. I don't want to remove myself from other groups, especially my default group. Can you (or anyone else) give me a hint? Thanks again! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio CD Problems with Potato
On Monday July 16 2001 01:47, Mark Wagnon wrote: On 07/16/01 07:20:47 +0200, Joost Kooij wrote: Better is: add your user to the cdrom group and chmod the device to that group instead of disk. Thanks for the heads up. I know how to add a user to a group, but how does one remove a user from a group? I'm looking at the man page for usermod right now, and not really feeling too confident that it's going to do what I want. I don't want to remove myself from other groups, especially my default group. Can you (or anyone else) give me a hint? Thanks again! The easiest way I know is to manually edit the file /etc/group. -Andy
Audio CD Problems with Potato
Hi all, I'm having some trouble getting audio CDs to play as an unpriviledged user. I am able to do so as root though, so it looks to me like a permission problem. I am able to send various audio files to /dev/dsp and /dev/audio as root. I have sound working in Ximian GNOME as a normal user. I added my normal user account to the audio group, thinking that this would solve the problem, but it didn't seem to. I have changed permissions on a couple of the audio device files, but I still seem to be having some trouble. changing the file access permissions for /dev/mixer to 666 allowed me to start gmix (I was not able to before). I'm just a little leary of changing all the files' permissions, which was the primary reason for adding myself to the audio group. Here are some listing for [all|some|???] my audioi-related files. mordor:/dev# ls -l /dev/mixer* crw-rw-rw-1 root audio 14, 0 Nov 30 2000 /dev/mixer crw-rw1 root audio 14, 16 Nov 30 2000 /dev/mixer1 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 32 Nov 30 2000 /dev/mixer2 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 48 Nov 30 2000 /dev/mixer3 mordor:/dev# ls -l /dev/midi* crw-rw1 root audio 35, 0 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi0 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 2 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi00 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 18 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi01 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 34 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi02 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 50 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi03 crw-rw1 root audio 35, 1 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi1 crw-rw1 root audio 35, 2 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi2 crw-rw1 root audio 35, 3 Nov 30 2000 /dev/midi3 mordor:/dev# ls -l /dev/audio* crw-rw1 root audio 14, 4 Nov 30 2000 /dev/audio crw-rw1 root audio 14, 20 Nov 30 2000 /dev/audio1 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 36 Nov 30 2000 /dev/audio2 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 52 Nov 30 2000 /dev/audio3 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 7 Nov 30 2000 /dev/audioctl mordor:/dev# ls -l /dev/dsp* crw-rw1 root audio 14, 3 Nov 30 2000 /dev/dsp crw-rw1 root audio 14, 19 Nov 30 2000 /dev/dsp1 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 35 Nov 30 2000 /dev/dsp2 crw-rw1 root audio 14, 51 Nov 30 2000 /dev/dsp3 All this is on a self-rolled 2.2.19pre17 kernel. Any clues? Thanks in advance! -- Mark Wagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
audio cd problems
I can't play audio cd's in potato - audio or cd progs complain that saying they cannot access the cdrom device, and if I just hit the 'play' button on the cd-drive itself, the output doesn't go thru the soundcard - The only way I can listen is to get the audio cable and put in the the jack on the front of the cd player. I am using the ALSA drivers that came with potato. Could it be a problem with this? Or maybe cdrom automounting? Everything worked OK under Redhat6.1 ciao vik [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.progsoc.org/~vik PGP: http://www.progsoc.org/~vik/pgp.txt There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad. Salvador Dali
Re: audio cd problems
On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 06:15:56PM +1100, Vik wrote: I can't play audio cd's in potato - audio or cd progs complain that saying they cannot access the cdrom device, and if I just hit the 'play' button Make sure you belong to the group that owns the cdrom device, usually audio or cdrom. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648
Re: audio cd problems
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Vik wrote: I can't play audio cd's in potato - audio or cd progs complain that saying they cannot access the cdrom device, and if I just hit the 'play' button on the cd-drive itself, the output doesn't go thru the soundcard - The only way I can listen is to get the audio cable and put in the the jack on the front of the cd player. I am using the ALSA drivers that came with potato. Could it be a problem with this? Or maybe cdrom automounting? Everything worked OK under Redhat6.1 ciao vik [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.progsoc.org/~vik PGP: http://www.progsoc.org/~vik/pgp.txt There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad. Salvador Dali -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null You probably have all the channels muted. When you first install ALSA the channels are muted by default and you have to turn the sound up using a mixer program. If you are running KDE you can use kmix, if GNOME use gmix, if nothing cool then use alsamixer (console based). Also after you unmute and turn up the sound you shoud do (as root) 'alsactl store' which will write the settings to /etc/alsa.conf. I am using ALSA on my laptop, but I did not use the debs I compiled the latest version myself. Dan -- Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS service, may bounce) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. -- Dave Olson ---
Re: audio cd problems
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Vik wrote: I can't play audio cd's in potato - audio or cd progs complain that saying they cannot access the cdrom device, and if I just hit the 'play' button on the cd-drive itself, the output doesn't go thru the soundcard - The only way I can listen is to get the audio cable and put in the the jack on the front of the cd player. I am using the ALSA drivers that came with potato. Could it be a problem with this? Or maybe cdrom automounting? Everything worked OK under Redhat6.1 ciao vik [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.progsoc.org/~vik PGP: http://www.progsoc.org/~vik/pgp.txt There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad. Salvador Dali -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null You probably have all the channels muted. When you first install ALSA the channels are muted by default and you have to turn the sound up using a mixer program. If you are running KDE you can use kmix, if GNOME use gmix, if nothing cool then use alsamixer (console based). Also after you unmute and turn up the sound you shoud do (as root) 'alsactl store' which will write the settings to /etc/alsa.conf. I am using ALSA on my laptop, but I did not use the debs I compiled the latest version myself. Dan -- Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS service, may bounce) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. -- Dave Olson --- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Oh yeah. You should also check the premissions on /dev/cdrom (which usually points to the real device). Dan -- Daniel E. Baumann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (caution: dynamic DNS service, may bounce) Web location: http://www.msoe.edu/~baumannd http://www.linuxfreak.com/~baumannd Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. -- Dave Olson ---
audio cd problems
I was trying to make a copy of an audio cd, tried with both cdrdao and xcdroast and all I got is only the left channel. Data CDs are ok on the same cd writer (Yamaha 4416S), also I made an audio cd a couple month ago and it was ok. Is there a way to tell if the writer has failed or if it's a software problem? Pf -- --- Pierfrancesco Caci | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://gusp.infogroup.it ik5pvx| http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8999 Firenze - Italia | Office for the Complication of Otherwise Simple Affairs Linux penny 2.2.10 #1 Tue Jun 15 21:03:12 CEST 1999 i586 unknown