Re: Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> For some unknown reason, network configuration (wireless networks
> etc.) in NetworkManager includes the MAC address of the local NIC
> too, so you may need to fix those up after transfer.

This sucks, indeed.  I can't understand why they do that (maybe as an
option, I could see occasional uses, but as default?).


Stefan



Re: Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>I have an old Thinkpad on its last legs which I cannot shutdown (long
>story). Then I have a slightly better Thinkpad with similar hard
>drive. Debian is split into three partitions (root. home and swap)/
>
>I'll recreate a similar partitioning from a live usb on the newer
>laptop, then I'll mount the root partition, connect to the old laptop
>via ssh, copy the data on the new drive, reinstall grub and modify
>fstab.
>
>Will this work?

Sure, that should work OK. I've done this lots of times. Things to
consider:

 1. Be careful to back up including file permissions and ownerships
etc.

 2. Try to copy things from a quiet system (single-user mode or
similar) to get a consistent backup copy.

 3. There are a *few* things that might need fixup on the new
machine. You've already identified grub and fstab.

For some unknown reason, network configuration (wireless networks
etc.) in NetworkManager includes the MAC address of the local NIC
too, so you may need to fix those up after transfer.

-- 
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Re: Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread David Wright
On Mon 14 Nov 2022 at 14:53:34 (+), Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> I have an old Thinkpad on its last legs which I cannot shutdown (long
> story). Then I have a slightly better Thinkpad with similar hard
> drive. Debian is split into three partitions (root. home and swap)/
> 
> I'll recreate a similar partitioning from a live usb on the newer
> laptop, then I'll mount the root partition, connect to the old laptop
> via ssh, copy the data on the new drive, reinstall grub and modify
> fstab.
> 
> Will this work?

You should check that the newer laptop boots the same way (looks like
BIOS) and that you're partitioning the same way (probably MBR).

Otherwise:

UEFI booting would require an ESP (and complicate setting up Grub),
GPT partitioning (with BIOS booting) would require a BIOS Boot partition.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2022 14 Nov 09:16 -0600, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> I have an old Thinkpad on its last legs which I cannot shutdown (long
> story). Then I have a slightly better Thinkpad with similar hard
> drive. Debian is split into three partitions (root. home and swap)/
> 
> I'll recreate a similar partitioning from a live usb on the newer
> laptop, then I'll mount the root partition, connect to the old laptop
> via ssh, copy the data on the new drive, reinstall grub and modify
> fstab.
> 
> Will this work?

Yes.

I've done this many times and documented it:

https://www.n0nb.us/blog/2012/11/ghost-a-partition-contents-with-rsync/

- Nate

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Re: Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread Peter Ehlert



On 11/14/22 06:53, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

I have an old Thinkpad on its last legs which I cannot shutdown (long
story). Then I have a slightly better Thinkpad with similar hard
drive. Debian is split into three partitions (root. home and swap)/

I'll recreate a similar partitioning from a live usb on the newer
laptop, then I'll mount the root partition, connect to the old laptop
via ssh, copy the data on the new drive, reinstall grub and modify
fstab.

Will this work?


probably, depending on your method.

I frequently copy the desired partitions (without modification) with 
Gparted to a separate physical drive...

installing and updating GRUB is the only stumbling block.



Re: Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread Peter von Kaehne



> On 14 Nov 2022, at 15:15, Ottavio Caruso  
> wrote:
> 
> [..] copy the data on the new drive, reinstall grub and modify
> fstab.
> 
> Will this work?

Depends on what kind of “copy” you make. You will need to keep ownership, 
permissions and links intact. And possibly more.

I would install and then copy the home drive. 

Peter
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Backing up whole Debian installation from laptop to laptop via ssh?

2022-11-14 Thread Ottavio Caruso
I have an old Thinkpad on its last legs which I cannot shutdown (long
story). Then I have a slightly better Thinkpad with similar hard
drive. Debian is split into three partitions (root. home and swap)/

I'll recreate a similar partitioning from a live usb on the newer
laptop, then I'll mount the root partition, connect to the old laptop
via ssh, copy the data on the new drive, reinstall grub and modify
fstab.

Will this work?

-- 
Ottavio Caruso

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?