Re: Bookworm VPS image and cron
On 2023-08-25 08:38, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 03:02:55PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: So, there you go... it was a problem with DO's Bookworm image. I'm assuming the omission wasn't intentional and if that is, in fact, the case, it will get fixed quickly. It sounds to me like not a bug, since a minimal debootstrap (debootstrap --variant=minbase bookworm target-dir) of Debian 12 does not include the "cron" package either. It's just a change. Nothing in the base system needs cron any more. Might not be a bug. Regardless, that was their response. If they determine the package should not have been omitted, they'll fix their image. It is what it is. Thanks --Steve
Re: Bookworm VPS image and cron
Hello, On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 03:02:55PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: > So, there you go... it was a problem with DO's Bookworm image. I'm assuming > the omission wasn't intentional and if that is, in fact, the case, it will > get fixed quickly. It sounds to me like not a bug, since a minimal debootstrap (debootstrap --variant=minbase bookworm target-dir) of Debian 12 does not include the "cron" package either. It's just a change. Nothing in the base system needs cron any more. I'd regard it as more of a bug if cron got installed without anything that depended upon it. Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: Bookworm VPS image and cron
On 2023-08-05 23:06, Geert Stappers wrote: > Or you could ask your VPS provider why they aren't providing > "important" packages in their default image. This is the first time it's happened. Of the Linux images I've used there, Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, and Debian bullseye all shipped with cron properly installed. Come to think of it... I just checked a local bookworm VM I'm running at home, and it has cron installed, too. I'll open a ticket. Response from the provider: [ Hi Steve, Thanks for reaching out to DigitalOcean. I understand you ran into an issue where you found cron was not preinstalled on our Debian 12 images. I can confirm that in testing I was able to replicate this issue where it's not installed on Debian 12, but is on Debian 11 and our Ubuntu images. It sounds to me like a bug, so I've submitted a review to our engineering team that handles the images for the Droplets. If they determine this to be incorrect they will update the image accordingly. We appreciate the bug report! For the time being, if you need to launch a new Droplet with Debian 12 you will want to manually install cron. If you have any other questions or concerns please feel free reach back out at your convenience. Thank you for being a customer and have a great day! ] So, there you go... it was a problem with DO's Bookworm image. I'm assuming the omission wasn't intentional and if that is, in fact, the case, it will get fixed quickly. Thanks --Steve
Re: Bookworm VPS image and cron
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:00:42PM -0700, Steve Sobol wrote: > On 2023-08-05 13:23, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 5 Aug 2023 22:13 +0200, from johndoe65...@mail.com (john doe): > > > > But cron isn't installed. > > > > > > I just install a new Bookworm VM and 'cron' is present! :) > > > > Ditto. That must be some customization your VPS provider has made, if > > the installation didn't somehow fail. > > I'll talk to them. The VPS was acting quite strangely, anyhow, and rather > than fight with Bookworm, I nuked the VPS and created another one from their > bullseye image. :-) > > Or you could ask your VPS provider why they aren't providing > > "important" packages in their default image. > > This is the first time it's happened. Of the Linux images I've used there, > Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, and Debian bullseye all shipped > with cron properly installed. Come to think of it... I just checked a local > bookworm VM I'm running at home, and it has cron installed, too. I'll open a > ticket. Please keep us posted. > Thanks :) Thank you for reporting the good find. Groeten Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse signature.asc Description: PGP signature