Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
On 29.08.18 11:57, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > However both sendmail and update-inetd are orphaned at the moment (no > regular maintainers, although Andreas Beckmann has done a lot of work > via the QA team) After favouring sendmail for a decade and a half, I thought I was slow to switch to postfix around 15 years ago when sendmail was already showing signs of age, such as security issues, IIRC. That anyone would use it today is quite a surprise. Postfix has a nice set of sendmail compatibility functions, and the list is very helpful. From the manpage: mailq(1), Sendmail compatibility interface newaliases(1), Sendmail compatibility interface sendmail(1), Sendmail compatibility interface Erik
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:42:01AM -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: Thanks for the pointer! sendmail-base.prerm had the line: update-inetd --group MAIL --disable smtp,smtps,submission; and I was getting the error update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add This would appear to be a bug[1] in the sendmail package, which, if you have the time, might be worth reporting[2]. However both sendmail and update-inetd are orphaned at the moment (no regular maintainers, although Andreas Beckmann has done a lot of work via the QA team) [1] https://salsa.debian.org/debian/sendmail/blob/master/debian/sendmail-base.prerm.in [2] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
On 8/28/18, Luis Finotti wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM David Wright > wrote: > >> On Tue 28 Aug 2018 at 09:14:36 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: >> > # apt remove sendemail >> >> Oops. >> >> > Reading package lists... Done >> > Building dependency tree >> > Reading state information... Done >> > Package 'sendemail' is not installed, so not removed >> > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. >> > 1 not fully installed or removed. >> > After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. >> > Setting up sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... >> >> sendmail-base is what you should be trying to remove. >> And you should be using dpkg directly, not messing around with apt. >> As you can see, you asked apt to remove something and it tries to >> configure something instead. If you're going to use sid or a >> sid lookalike, you're going to have to use the appropriate tools. >> >> > dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--configure): >> > installed sendmail-base package post-installation script subprocess >> > returned error exit status 255 >> > Errors were encountered while processing: >> > sendmail-base >> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) >> > >> > >> > Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> You see—you want to know what dpkg itself is doing. >> > > Here it is: > > # dpkg -P sendmail-base > (Reading database ... 1562548 files and directories currently installed.) > Removing sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... > update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add > dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--purge): > installed sendmail-base package pre-removal script subprocess returned > error exit status 255 > Errors were encountered while processing: > sendmail-base > > Any suggestions? I've had luck on occasion by following where *my* setup tells me to try: apt --fix-broken install Generic just like that with no specific packages named. Just had to run it a couple times recently. Sometimes I've gotten lucky, and it fixes things just like that just that fast. Other times it's like the other day. It will instead first attempt to purge/remove the offending partially installed package. At one point, I think I just gave up and let apt do what it thought might work. Successfully remove a package *is* what it did. This has just been since the one thread we had here about manually installing via dpkg and then running into repeated missing dependencies. I just checked ~/.bash_history and saw my topic was... *cough* flash versus pepperflash. I was attempting deb package installs with "dpkg -i" while otherwise only favoring the main repository in /etc/apt/sources.list. PS I finally gave up when I realized flash may have NEVER had anything to do with the particular webpage issues I've had all these years. I hate ol' timer's disease,.. been afflicted since about 1992. lol. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape *
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
Thanks once more for the support! The problem is now solved. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:20 AM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 28 Aug 2018 at 09:48:06 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: > > > # dpkg -P sendmail-base > > (Reading database ... 1562548 files and directories currently installed.) > > Removing sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... > > update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add > > dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--purge): > > installed sendmail-base package pre-removal script subprocess returned > > error exit status 255 > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > sendmail-base > > > > Any suggestions? > > I would take a look at the pre-removal script sendmail-base.prerm to > see what it's trying to do. If there are parts that aren't sensible, > you could comment them out, alter things so that they can work, or > even just make them "succeed" with "|| true" so you get to the end > of the script. (Check sendmail-base.postinst while you're about it.) > > The scripts will contain a record of what modifications they intended > to make to your system, so ultimately all you need to do is nullify > those changes, remove the files in sendmail-base.list and convince > dpkg that the package is purged. Manually if necessary. > Thanks for the pointer! sendmail-base.prerm had the line: update-inetd --group MAIL --disable smtp,smtps,submission; and I was getting the error update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add So, I changed it to: update-inetd --disable smtp,smtps,submission; and was then able to uninstall it. Thanks again for your help.
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
On Tue 28 Aug 2018 at 09:48:06 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: > # dpkg -P sendmail-base > (Reading database ... 1562548 files and directories currently installed.) > Removing sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... > update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add > dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--purge): > installed sendmail-base package pre-removal script subprocess returned > error exit status 255 > Errors were encountered while processing: > sendmail-base > > Any suggestions? I would take a look at the pre-removal script sendmail-base.prerm to see what it's trying to do. If there are parts that aren't sensible, you could comment them out, alter things so that they can work, or even just make them "succeed" with "|| true" so you get to the end of the script. (Check sendmail-base.postinst while you're about it.) The scripts will contain a record of what modifications they intended to make to your system, so ultimately all you need to do is nullify those changes, remove the files in sendmail-base.list and convince dpkg that the package is purged. Manually if necessary. Cheers, David.
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
Thanks for the reply again. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 9:41 AM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 28 Aug 2018 at 09:14:36 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: > > > # apt remove sendemail > > Oops. > > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state information... Done > > Package 'sendemail' is not installed, so not removed > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > > 1 not fully installed or removed. > > After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. > > Setting up sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... > > sendmail-base is what you should be trying to remove. > And you should be using dpkg directly, not messing around with apt. > As you can see, you asked apt to remove something and it tries to > configure something instead. If you're going to use sid or a > sid lookalike, you're going to have to use the appropriate tools. > > > dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--configure): > > installed sendmail-base package post-installation script subprocess > > returned error exit status 255 > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > sendmail-base > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > You see—you want to know what dpkg itself is doing. > Here it is: # dpkg -P sendmail-base (Reading database ... 1562548 files and directories currently installed.) Removing sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--purge): installed sendmail-base package pre-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 255 Errors were encountered while processing: sendmail-base Any suggestions?
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
On Tue 28 Aug 2018 at 09:14:36 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: > # apt remove sendemail Oops. > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Package 'sendemail' is not installed, so not removed > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > 1 not fully installed or removed. > After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. > Setting up sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... sendmail-base is what you should be trying to remove. And you should be using dpkg directly, not messing around with apt. As you can see, you asked apt to remove something and it tries to configure something instead. If you're going to use sid or a sid lookalike, you're going to have to use the appropriate tools. > dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--configure): > installed sendmail-base package post-installation script subprocess > returned error exit status 255 > Errors were encountered while processing: > sendmail-base > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! You see—you want to know what dpkg itself is doing. Cheers, David.
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
Firstly, thanks for the reply! On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 9:04 AM David Wright wrote: > On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 12:38:42 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'm having trouble installing/removing sendmail in Debian Sid (well, > > aptosid -- http://www.aptosid.com -- actually). > > Perhaps their forums might help. > I tried: http://www.aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2=viewtopic=18661#18661 I've got some of the hints that I mentioned I've tried already from them. > > > I tried to install and it failed: https://pastebin.com/Qu2jRqsn > > > > 'apt -f install' did not fix it, nor did 'dpkg --configure -a'. > > > > Since it was not essential (and did not install correctly), I tried to > > uninstall it, but it also fails: > > […] > > > One notices in the failed install attempt (the pastebin link above): > > > > -- > > adduser: Warning: The home directory `/var/lib/sendmail' does not belong > to > > the user you are currently creating. > > update-inetd: warning: cannot add service, /etc/inetd.conf does not exist > > -- > > > > I had: > > -- > > # ls -ld /var/lib/sendmail > > drwx-- 2 smmta smmta 4096 Aug 22 15:06 /var/lib/sendmail/ > > -- > > > > Changing ownership to root did not allow me to uninstall it. > > What's the output from this attempt? > Here it is: # ls -ld /var/lib/sendmail/ drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Aug 22 15:06 /var/lib/sendmail/ # apt remove sendemail Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package 'sendemail' is not installed, so not removed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... Usage: update-inetd [...] Commands: --add add --remove remove --enable [,...]enable (comma-separated list) --disable [,...] disable (comma-separated list) Options: --group add entry to section --pattern use to select a service --comment-chars use as comment characters --multi allow multiple removes/disables --fileuse instead of /etc/inetd.conf --verbose explain what is being done --debug enables debugging mode --help display this help and exit --version output version information and exit In order to prevent the shell from changing your definition you have to quote the using single or double quotes. You can use tabs (tab character or \t) and spaces to separate the fields of the . Note: users must use --comment-chars '#' to disable a service for that setting to survive upgrades. Package maintainer scripts should use the default --comment-chars. See update-inetd(8) for details. Usage: update-inetd [...] Commands: --add add --remove remove --enable [,...]enable (comma-separated list) --disable [,...] disable (comma-separated list) Options: --group add entry to section --pattern use to select a service --comment-chars use as comment characters --multi allow multiple removes/disables --fileuse instead of /etc/inetd.conf --verbose explain what is being done --debug enables debugging mode --help display this help and exit --version output version information and exit In order to prevent the shell from changing your definition you have to quote the using single or double quotes. You can use tabs (tab character or \t) and spaces to separate the fields of the . Note: users must use --comment-chars '#' to disable a service for that setting to survive upgrades. Package maintainer scripts should use the default --comment-chars. See update-inetd(8) for details. Usage: update-inetd [...] Commands: --add add --remove remove --enable [,...]enable (comma-separated list) --disable [,...] disable (comma-separated list) Options: --group add entry to section --pattern use to select a service --comment-chars use as comment characters --multi allow multiple removes/disables --fileuse instead of /etc/inetd.conf --verbose explain what is being done --debug enables debugging mode --help display this help and exit --version output version information and exit In order to prevent the shell from changing your definition you have to quote the using single or double quotes.
Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 12:38:42 (-0400), Luis Finotti wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm having trouble installing/removing sendmail in Debian Sid (well, > aptosid -- http://www.aptosid.com -- actually). Perhaps their forums might help. > I tried to install and it failed: https://pastebin.com/Qu2jRqsn > > 'apt -f install' did not fix it, nor did 'dpkg --configure -a'. > > Since it was not essential (and did not install correctly), I tried to > uninstall it, but it also fails: […] > One notices in the failed install attempt (the pastebin link above): > > -- > adduser: Warning: The home directory `/var/lib/sendmail' does not belong to > the user you are currently creating. > update-inetd: warning: cannot add service, /etc/inetd.conf does not exist > -- > > I had: > -- > # ls -ld /var/lib/sendmail > drwx-- 2 smmta smmta 4096 Aug 22 15:06 /var/lib/sendmail/ > -- > > Changing ownership to root did not allow me to uninstall it. What's the output from this attempt? Cheers, David.
Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail
Hi everyone, I'm having trouble installing/removing sendmail in Debian Sid (well, aptosid -- http://www.aptosid.com -- actually). I tried to install and it failed: https://pastebin.com/Qu2jRqsn 'apt -f install' did not fix it, nor did 'dpkg --configure -a'. Since it was not essential (and did not install correctly), I tried to uninstall it, but it also fails: - # apt remove procmail sendmail sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sensible-mda Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: procmail sendmail sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf sensible-mda 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 6 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 4 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 4,213 kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 1537409 files and directories currently installed.) Removing sendmail (8.15.2-11) ... Removing sensible-mda (8.15.2-11) ... Removing sendmail-bin (8.15.2-11) ... Removing sendmail-base (8.15.2-11) ... update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add dpkg: error processing package sendmail-base (--remove): installed sendmail-base package pre-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 255 Removing procmail (3.22-26) ... Removing sendmail-cf (8.15.2-11) ... Errors were encountered while processing: sendmail-base E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) One notices in the failed install attempt (the pastebin link above): -- adduser: Warning: The home directory `/var/lib/sendmail' does not belong to the user you are currently creating. update-inetd: warning: cannot add service, /etc/inetd.conf does not exist -- I had: -- # ls -ld /var/lib/sendmail drwx-- 2 smmta smmta 4096 Aug 22 15:06 /var/lib/sendmail/ -- Changing ownership to root did not allow me to uninstall it. Aptosid itself does not come with a mail daemon installed, so I must have installed at some point some daemon that created the /var/lib/sendmail. (If I were to try to install again, I'd probably opt for a lighter alternative, something like ssmtp. So, right now, I just want to remove sendmail.) So, I have sendmail-base stuck as not fully installed. It was recommended I install 'openbsd-inetd' (it was not installed, neither was xinetd), but it still fails to install: https://pastebin.com/sStYqMYi (I also still cannot uninstall it...) Any help would be greatly appreciated!
