Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Roel Schroeven wrote:
Alfredo Cole wrote:
El Vie 26 Nov 2004 12:15, Roel Schroeven escribió:
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Codito ergo sum
Roel Schroeven

If you are trying to quote Descartes, then it is Cogito ergo sum. 
Otherwise, forget it.

Yes and no: it's supposed to mean I code therefore I am, instead of 
Descartes's I think therefore I am.

But read Henry Corbin (1903-1978): Descartes was confused and should 
have written: Cogitor ergo sum. Sorry. I could not help but saying it.
H.

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Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Anthony Campbell
I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
show COPY on every page.

Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.
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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:20 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
 downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
 6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
 show COPY on every page.
 
 Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.

Jeez, I think you're overreacting a bit.  Reader 6.0 has been out
for a while now.  Is it any wonder that companies are generating 
PDFs for it?

The people you should vent your spleen to is Adobe.  Then, send
them a nice letter asking for a Linux version of Reader 7.0.

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread David Dorward
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:20:45 +, Anthony Campbell
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 downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
 6.0, which is not available for Linux

So Canon sell you a print manual. You lose it. You get a free
electronic replacement, and it doesn't work on a minority OS which CAN
view documents written for earlier versions of the same software. So
you lambast them on a forum which they probably don't read.

How about you raise your concerns with Canon instead of complaining
behind their backs? They might do something about it.

(Does Acrobat Reader 6 work in under WINE? That might be another
solution to the problem.)

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Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 26 Nov 2004, David Dorward wrote:
 On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:20:45 +, Anthony Campbell
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
  6.0, which is not available for Linux
 
 So Canon sell you a print manual. You lose it. You get a free
 electronic replacement, and it doesn't work on a minority OS which CAN
 view documents written for earlier versions of the same software. So
 you lambast them on a forum which they probably don't read.
 
 How about you raise your concerns with Canon instead of complaining
 behind their backs? They might do something about it.
 
 (Does Acrobat Reader 6 work in under WINE? That might be another
 solution to the problem.)
 

I've now found that it does open with gv, surprisingly.

I accept I may have posted in a moment of irritation but I have
downloaded a number of other manuals for other products at different
times and none of them has ever required a particular viewer previously.
I don't think that it requires exceptional benevolence on the part of
manufacturers to provide PDFs of their manuals on their websites, since
this will presumably encourage people to buy their products if they know
they can obtain such information in the future.

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Roel Schroeven
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:20 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
show COPY on every page.
Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.

Jeez, I think you're overreacting a bit.  Reader 6.0 has been out
for a while now.  Is it any wonder that companies are generating 
PDFs for it?
I think the problem is not that Canon made a PDF for Reader 6.0, but 
that they added some kind of copy protection that is only supported by 
Reader 6.0. Which, IMO, is quite stupid since there is no need to copy 
protect those manuals.

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 19:15 +0100, Roel Schroeven wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:20 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  
 I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
 downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
 6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
 show COPY on every page.
 
 Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.
  
  
  Jeez, I think you're overreacting a bit.  Reader 6.0 has been out
  for a while now.  Is it any wonder that companies are generating 
  PDFs for it?
 
 I think the problem is not that Canon made a PDF for Reader 6.0, but 
 that they added some kind of copy protection that is only supported by 
 Reader 6.0. Which, IMO, is quite stupid since there is no need to copy 
 protect those manuals.

One word: lawyers.

Killing all the lawyers would be a very bad thing, so lets just
kill 80% of them.

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Alfredo Cole
El Vie 26 Nov 2004 12:15, Roel Schroeven escribió:
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 Codito ergo sum
 Roel Schroeven

If you are trying to quote Descartes, then it is Cogito ergo sum. Otherwise, 
forget it.

Regards.

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

2004-11-26 Thread Roel Schroeven
Alfredo Cole wrote:
El Vie 26 Nov 2004 12:15, Roel Schroeven escribió:
(...)
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Codito ergo sum
Roel Schroeven

If you are trying to quote Descartes, then it is Cogito ergo sum. Otherwise, 
forget it.
Yes and no: it's supposed to mean I code therefore I am, instead of 
Descartes's I think therefore I am.

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Roel Schroeven
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