Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Allen Wong
Has anyone successfully installed Debian 2.1 from a Cheapbytes CD? 
I keep getting error messages with dselect stating that some of the
packages are out of date and I need a newer version.  I am a newbie with
Debian but not with Linux, having installed redhat and Slackware many
times.

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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
Allen Wong wrote:
 
 Has anyone successfully installed Debian 2.1 from a Cheapbytes CD?
 I keep getting error messages with dselect stating that some of the
 packages are out of date and I need a newer version.  I am a newbie with
 Debian but not with Linux, having installed redhat and Slackware many
 times.
 

Allen

I have. I installed slink with them, but I don't remember any error
messages though. That was about a month ago, so who knows?

I do remember that I had bought some hamm cd-roms from cheapbytes, and
they gave me a lot of problems. Maybe the discs are messed up in some
way?

Since then, I've decided to live dangerously and use potato
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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Rob Lundahl

Yes and the source for the kernel modules is missing. If you untar
the kernel tar.gz in /usr/src the modules code is not there.
Someone needs to get Cheapbytes to be more careful with Debian.

Never the less, I did get it to work just fine, but its tricky.

Rob
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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread James Moss
Care to share exactly how to get it to work?  I've got it coming in the
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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Allen Wong
Mark Wagnon wrote:
 
 Allen Wong wrote:
 
  Has anyone successfully installed Debian 2.1 from a Cheapbytes CD?
  I keep getting error messages with dselect stating that some of the
  packages are out of date and I need a newer version.  I am a newbie with
  Debian but not with Linux, having installed redhat and Slackware many
  times.
 
 
Mark,

Is it safe to say that this is not because of my own stupidity?  I
checked the files in the CD against the files on a Debian FTP site and
the version numbers match.  Yet, dselect keeps telling me that netbase
and a few other packages are not the right version.  I ignore it and
tell it to install anyway, but it kicks out an Error 1, I think,
something about some script not being there.  I then press return and
I am sent back to the main menu.  Ordinarily, I buy from LSL.  Are their
Debian CDs better?  I bought from Cheapbytes this time because I wanted
to try Stampede Linux too.


 Allen
 
 I have. I installed slink with them, but I don't remember any error
 messages though. That was about a month ago, so who knows?
 
 I do remember that I had bought some hamm cd-roms from cheapbytes, and
 they gave me a lot of problems. Maybe the discs are messed up in some
 way?
 
 Since then, I've decided to live dangerously and use potato
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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Rob Lundahl

OK, here is some notes on Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

The first binary CD is the one to use. The second CD is a smaller
kernel and software set for laptops. So use the first. Just boot
off of the CD and select the defaults for the directories under
source media. Some will complain that they do not exist. That is
okay.
All we are interested in is the main i386 for now.

I used the scientific workstation selection as a base. Then I removed
a few packages that I did not need. Keep in mind that the libraries 
and programs for X are not absolutely current. I use Window Maker and
upgraded it to .51 from .20. Note that Window Maker is stable, fast, 
and easy to install. Although KDE 1.1 is easy too. KDE 1.1 is not on
the CD either!  I really like Enlightenment but the version on the
CD is too old.

I used to run Redhat. Redhat has some hacks that I do not like.
For example, using Window Maker it always overwrites the Gnustep
config in your local directly. Redhat is ok if you don't like to 
configure hands on, but in my opinion it is a hack. Debian is much 
easier to configure and really use. The development enviro is better
under Debian. I had problems with Perl/Tk on Redhat. It goes on.

When you are ready to configure your sound you need to recompile
the kernel. Don't panic its easy with Debian. I always compile a
kernel anyway. Since you may be missing your module source you will
keep the usr/lib/module/ directory of modules. Just do a depmod -a
after building a new kernel. Maybe your CD was corrected. I received
one of the first. If your module source is there after untarring
the /usr/src/kernel.src.gz then ignore this.

To config your printer just run magicfilter. It works.

Don't forget to make your audio devs with 'makedev audio'.
Buy the way I got gqmpeg to work and the skins. The mpg123 decoder
is very fast. But I downloaded all this from the net to get the
latest
versions. I use the tkmixer. I works very well.

I also have the new zip drive interface working with the imm.o
module.

So, sound works, printer works, X works, Zip Drive works, 
Perl/Tk works :-).

Anyway thats a start.

Rob 
Bluestar Ranch


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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Alexis Maldonado

 Care to share exactly how to get it to work?  I've got it coming in the
 mail and I'd like some background on how exactly to get it too work.

I didn't have any problems at all with the Cheapbytes CDs, I got 
them a week ago, and they are just plain perfect.

I did the following:

Booted from the Binaries 1 CD, did all the normal configuration 
stuff. Then it booted and got ready to install all the packages with 
dselect.

In dselect:

- I selected the Multi-CD ACCESS method.

- According to the readme on the CDs, I put the Binaries 2 CD in 
the drive, and then ran UPDATE.

- Then I selected all the packages I wanted, then ran INSTALL, and 
that's it!It installed the packages from the first CD, then asked 
for the second CD, and installed those packages also.

Not even one error message! 

I bought 9 sets of Debian CDs from Cheapbytes for my friends at 
the University, and no one has mentioned any problems either...

I hope this helps.

Alexis Maldonado.


Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Alexis Maldonado

 
 Yes and the source for the kernel modules is missing. If you untar
 the kernel tar.gz in /usr/src the modules code is not there.

The 2.2.3 Kernel tarball is on the Source 2 CD. I just got the 
patches for 2.2.4, and 2.2.5, and I've been running 2.2.5 for a 
couple of days. 

 Someone needs to get Cheapbytes to be more careful with Debian.
 Never the less, I did get it to work just fine, but its tricky.

I've been using their CDs for more than one year, and I've always 
felt that they were fine. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a 
problem with their CDs.

Alexis Maldonado.


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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Pollywog

On 13-Apr-99 Rob Lundahl wrote:
 
 OK, here is some notes on Cheapbytes Debian 2.1
 
 The first binary CD is the one to use. The second CD is a smaller
 kernel and software set for laptops. So use the first. Just boot
 off of the CD and select the defaults for the directories under
 source media. Some will complain that they do not exist. That is
 okay.
 All we are interested in is the main i386 for now.
 
 I used the scientific workstation selection as a base. Then I removed
 a few packages that I did not need. Keep in mind that the libraries 
 and programs for X are not absolutely current. I use Window Maker and
 upgraded it to .51 from .20. Note that Window Maker is stable, fast, 
 and easy to install. Although KDE 1.1 is easy too. KDE 1.1 is not on
 the CD either!  I really like Enlightenment but the version on the
 CD is too old.
If you buy the 4 CD set, KDE is on source disk #2, but all in deb packages.

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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Pollywog

On 13-Apr-99 Alexis Maldonado wrote:
 
 
 Yes and the source for the kernel modules is missing. If you untar
 the kernel tar.gz in /usr/src the modules code is not there.
 
 The 2.2.3 Kernel tarball is on the Source 2 CD. I just got the 
 patches for 2.2.4, and 2.2.5, and I've been running 2.2.5 for a 
 couple of days. 
 
 Someone needs to get Cheapbytes to be more careful with Debian.
 Never the less, I did get it to work just fine, but its tricky.
 
 I've been using their CDs for more than one year, and I've always 
 felt that they were fine. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a 
 problem with their CDs.
 
 Alexis Maldonado.

I was disappointed by the fact that my CD's don't have source for KDE, just
deb packages.

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Cheapbytes Debian 2.1 - Thanks

1999-04-13 Thread Allen Wong
Hey everybody!  Thanks for all the advice.  I'll try it again.

Allen
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RE: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Small, Bradley
The way I understand it KDE uses some sort of non-free widget library. That
is why they don't come with Debian Distributions. I would assume that
CheapBytes includes it because they think it is a good idea. 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 2:17 PM
To: debian-user list
Subject: Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1



On 13-Apr-99 Alexis Maldonado wrote:
 
 
 Yes and the source for the kernel modules is missing. If you untar
 the kernel tar.gz in /usr/src the modules code is not there.
 
 The 2.2.3 Kernel tarball is on the Source 2 CD. I just got the 
 patches for 2.2.4, and 2.2.5, and I've been running 2.2.5 for a 
 couple of days. 
 
 Someone needs to get Cheapbytes to be more careful with Debian.
 Never the less, I did get it to work just fine, but its tricky.
 
 I've been using their CDs for more than one year, and I've always 
 felt that they were fine. Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a 
 problem with their CDs.
 
 Alexis Maldonado.

I was disappointed by the fact that my CD's don't have source for KDE, just
deb packages.

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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
Allen Wong wrote:

 
 Is it safe to say that this is not because of my own stupidity?  I
 checked the files in the CD against the files on a Debian FTP site and
 the version numbers match.  Yet, dselect keeps telling me that netbase
 and a few other packages are not the right version.  I ignore it and
 tell it to install anyway, but it kicks out an Error 1, I think,
 something about some script not being there.  I then press return and
 I am sent back to the main menu.  Ordinarily, I buy from LSL.  Are their
 Debian CDs better?  I bought from Cheapbytes this time because I wanted
 to try Stampede Linux too.
 

That's strange. I'm not very familiar with the ins and outs of dselect.
Just a thought: I looked up netbase and saw that it's in the base
utilities. Maybe someone else will chime in here if I'm wrong, but I am
thinking that this set of packages is installed after you set up your
partitions and before you reboot to run dselect (Is this correct?
--anyone?). Maybe you can make some install floppies and install the
base system from them, then when you reboot and run dselect install from
the cd-rom.

See 

http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-install-all-from-floppies

for info on doing this.

I used to buy from LSL too, but they seemed too expensive to me (with
shipping and everything). They also dropped their My Debian products (or
I just can't find them) which you could pick and choose from. 
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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Jan Muszynski
I've just installed slink from the Cheapbytes CD's with no problem, 
once I figured out 1 little detail.

Dselect at 1 point asks for the location of the non-free, non-US, and 
local branches. These aren't on the Cheapbytes CDs and you have to 
answer 'none', otherwise you get an error (I had originally been 
trying scan).

TTFN

On 13 Apr 99, at 10:59,  Allen Wong 
 wrote about Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1:

 Mark Wagnon wrote:
  
  Allen Wong wrote:
  
   Has anyone successfully installed Debian 2.1 from a Cheapbytes CD?
   I keep getting error messages with dselect stating that some of the
   packages are out of date and I need a newer version.  I am a newbie with
   Debian but not with Linux, having installed redhat and Slackware many
   times.
  
  
 Mark,
 
 Is it safe to say that this is not because of my own stupidity?  I
 checked the files in the CD against the files on a Debian FTP site and
 the version numbers match.  Yet, dselect keeps telling me that netbase
 and a few other packages are not the right version.  I ignore it and
 tell it to install anyway, but it kicks out an Error 1, I think,
 something about some script not being there.  I then press return and
 I am sent back to the main menu.  Ordinarily, I buy from LSL.  Are their
 Debian CDs better?  I bought from Cheapbytes this time because I wanted
 to try Stampede Linux too.
 
 
  Allen
  
  I have. I installed slink with them, but I don't remember any error
  messages though. That was about a month ago, so who knows?
  
  I do remember that I had bought some hamm cd-roms from cheapbytes, and
  they gave me a lot of problems. Maybe the discs are messed up in some
  way?
  
  Since then, I've decided to live dangerously and use potato
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Re: Cheapbytes Debian 2.1

1999-04-13 Thread Pollywog

On 13-Apr-99 Jan Muszynski wrote:
 I've just installed slink from the Cheapbytes CD's with no problem, 
 once I figured out 1 little detail.
 
 Dselect at 1 point asks for the location of the non-free, non-US, and 
 local branches. These aren't on the Cheapbytes CDs and you have to 
 answer 'none', otherwise you get an error (I had originally been 
 trying scan).

that part tripped me up too.

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