Does apt replace dselect?

1998-12-21 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi,

I was under the impression that apt would replace dselect and provide a
more user friendly package manager.  But so far I've just heard about
apt-get which sounds like just a script for installing debian packages
directly from the net.  Could someone enlighten me on the true role
and status of apt?

Thanks,

Mark.


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Re: Does apt replace dselect?

1998-12-21 Thread Mitch Blevins
Mark Phillips wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was under the impression that apt would replace dselect and provide a
 more user friendly package manager.  But so far I've just heard about
 apt-get which sounds like just a script for installing debian packages
 directly from the net.  Could someone enlighten me on the true role
 and status of apt?

Apt will eventually replace dselect, but the frontend is currently
still in development.  It needs both a terminal and X-windows based
frontends.

Until that day, apt can be used in conjunction with dselect as a method.
It can also be used as a command line tool (apt-get).

If you are chomping at the bit for the dselect replacement, you can
view (and try) the gnome-apt frontend at
http://www.debian.org/~hp/gnome-apt.html

-Mitch


Re: Does apt replace dselect?

1998-12-21 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote:
 Mark Phillips wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I was under the impression that apt would replace dselect and provide a
  more user friendly package manager.  But so far I've just heard about
  apt-get which sounds like just a script for installing debian packages
  directly from the net.  Could someone enlighten me on the true role
  and status of apt?
 

apt-get is way more than a script - Apt is mostly a library. The library
has lots of very sophisticated features, including stuff to download
packages, order them for installation, keep up with dependencies,
automatically compute which packages you need to upgrade, etc. It's a very
complex and powerful piece of code. 

apt-get is a simple frontend which gives you access to the library from
the command line. 

 If you are chomping at the bit for the dselect replacement, you can
 view (and try) the gnome-apt frontend at
 http://www.debian.org/~hp/gnome-apt.html
 

Thanks for the plug. :-)

Gnome Apt should build with the current Gtk and Gnome tarballs by the way,
you should not need to use CVS except to get Apt and Gnome-Apt. (If this
isn't true send me the compile error and I'll make it true.) Once Jim gets
those tarballs packaged up, you'll be able to use the .debs to compile. 

If I can add to the plug: I need an icon for the program, an icon for
Replaces in the package tree view, and someone to package the program
once all its dependencies are packaged. If anyone doesn't have enough to
do. :-) 

I actually use gnome-apt by the way; it has some missing features, but if
you get your /etc/apt/source.list set up manually, I think it's already a
useful program. 

 Havoc



Re: Does apt replace dselect?

1998-12-21 Thread Mitch Blevins
Havoc Pennington wrote:
 [snip] 
 If I can add to the plug: I need an icon for the program, an icon for
 Replaces in the package tree view, and someone to package the program
 once all its dependencies are packaged. If anyone doesn't have enough to
 do. :-) 

I would love to package this as soon as dependencies are packaged.
When do you suppose that will be?
(I'll be on vacation from 12/23-1/3)

-Mitch


Re: Does apt replace dselect?

1998-12-21 Thread Havoc Pennington

On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Mitch Blevins wrote:
 
 I would love to package this as soon as dependencies are packaged.
 When do you suppose that will be?
 (I'll be on vacation from 12/23-1/3)
 

Hey, great! I don't really know - I think Jim is working on the Gnome
stuff (it's a huge job), I don't know what the status is on a libapt-pkg
package. I'd think sometime in January it could all be ready to go though,
when you get back from vacation.

Havoc



Re: Does apt replace dselect?

1998-12-21 Thread Peter Berlau
On Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 12:52:06PM +1030, Mark Phillips wrote:
 Hi,
 Hi,
 I really don't know if apt will replace dsecelect, apt has(afaik)
 no user-interface like dselect.
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-===
ii  apt 0.1.9  Front-End for dpkg

But, yes , You can download and install, upgrade packages or
the whole distribution from the net, 
for the `ftp's`  `http's` apt work with have a look
to `/etc/apt/sources.list'
You can configure this file to a ftp htp near You
I work with apt :
downloading packages and update or install new ones - ok
upgrading hamm to slink completely:
3 strange's:
no more xterm
no xmodmap
instslled xfonts not updated,
no matter do it manually
apt-get update xterm ; apt-get install xterm
etc.
will also, if exist, replace or remove older packages You 
really not need .
 
 I was under the impression that apt would replace dselect and provide a
 more user friendly package manager.  But so far I've just heard about
 apt-get which sounds like just a script for installing debian packages
 directly from the net.  Could someone enlighten me on the true role
 and status of apt?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark.
 
cYa
-- 
   Peter