Re: Enlightment packaging

1997-07-18 Thread Lalo Martins
On Jul 14, Kevin M. Bealer wrote
 Amos Shapira wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager
 (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at
 http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in
 hamm's Packages list.
 
 (as I heard it...)
 
 Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain
 operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which
 makes it not free software.  It could be packaged into non-free
 however, as I understand it.
 
 This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there
 may still be someone doing it.

Yes. Me. Sorry I took so long to reply, I have unsubscribed to debian-user
and left the mailbox to read sometime.

Enlightenment will go to non-free, it seems. It's not uploaded yet because
my maintainer registration proccess is halted. Also, I will not package DR10
as Rater said he'll be releasing DR11 soon. But there's a debian-i386
package of ImLib already on ftp://ftp.arkham.net/pub/E.

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Re: Enlightment packaging

1997-07-15 Thread jghasler
Shaya writes:

 Actually, the part of the license which restricts it's use on Win95,
 might not be valid w/ the GPL.
 ...
 So who knows, that might mean that it's under the GPL only.

No.  If they have released it under a modified GPL they may be infringing
the FSF's copyright on the GPL, but their license is not thereby
invalidated.  The GPL is merely a copyrighted document, not a law.
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Re: Enlightment packaging

1997-07-15 Thread Shaya Potter
On 14 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shaya writes:
 
  Actually, the part of the license which restricts it's use on Win95,
  might not be valid w/ the GPL.
  ...
  So who knows, that might mean that it's under the GPL only.
 
 No.  If they have released it under a modified GPL they may be infringing
 the FSF's copyright on the GPL, but their license is not thereby
 invalidated.  The GPL is merely a copyrighted document, not a law.

Except for the fact that they didn't modify the GPL.  They said this
software is licensed under the GPL, except that it can't be used on a
Windows PC.  I believe that language may be faulty.

Shaya


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Re: Enlightment packaging

1997-07-15 Thread Amos Shapira
Shaya Potter wrote:
 
 On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:
  Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain
  operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which
  makes it not free software.  It could be packaged into non-free
  however, as I understand it.
 
  This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there
  may still be someone doing it.

Last night I saw a message about perspective packages listing
someone as working on an enlightment package for Debian.  That
seems to give a positive answer to my question.  (ok, so it will
be in non-free, no big deal, though I suppose anyone on this list
would like it to be in the dist. itself).

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

Cheers,

--Amos

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Re: Enlightment packaging

1997-07-14 Thread Kevin M. Bealer
Amos Shapira wrote:
Hi,

I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager
(http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at
http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in
hamm's Packages list.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks,

--Amos

--Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for
133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st.  |  glory, for its people had been chosen
Jerusalem 93 805  |  by the finest judges in England.
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(as I heard it...)

Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain
operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which
makes it not free software.  It could be packaged into non-free
however, as I understand it.

This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there
may still be someone doing it.

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Re: Enlightment packaging

1997-07-14 Thread Shaya Potter
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

 Amos Shapira wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager
 (http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at
 http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in
 hamm's Packages list.
 
 Does anyone know anything about this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 --Amos
 
 --Amos Shapira| Of course Australia was marked for
 133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st.  |  glory, for its people had been chosen
 Jerusalem 93 805  |  by the finest judges in England.
 ISRAEL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | -- Anonymous
 
 (as I heard it...)
 
 Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain
 operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which
 makes it not free software.  It could be packaged into non-free
 however, as I understand it.
 
 This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there
 may still be someone doing it.
 

Actually, the part of the license which restricts it's use on Win95, might
not be valid w/ the GPL.  In talking with one of the people with Cygnus,
the reason they couldn't release the GNU-WIN stuff under the LGPL for most
people and everyone else could use the GPL, is because the [L]GPL doesn't
allow you to modify it.  So who knows, that might mean that it's under the
GPL only.

Shaya


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Enlightment packaging

1997-07-13 Thread Amos Shapira
Hi,

I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager
(http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at
http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in
hamm's Packages list.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks,

--Amos

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133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st.  |  glory, for its people had been chosen
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