Re: Evolution & ThunderBird

[Marco Moock]

Am 21.06.2024 um 13:57:11 Uhr schrieb CHRIS M:

> And I like how for POP3 accounts, each email is stored as an
> individual file, vs being shoved into a binary .mbx file that could
> get corrupted at any time! 

This is possible for IMAP too, e.g. with the Maildir format.

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Re: Evolution & ThunderBird

[CHRIS M]

On Wednesday 19 June 2024 04:00:44 pm Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> My brain keeps wanting to note that e.g. Gmail used to make us jump
> through painful hoops to use desktop programs like Evolution. That
> didn't happen for me this time, but maybe other email providers still
> have the detail that needs addressed on their online end and that isn't
> seen while setting up an Evolution account (versus other email
> programs).
>

Do you use POP or IMAP with GMAIL?

I love Evolution for email, since I was a big OUTLOOK user back in my Windows 
days! And I like how for POP3 accounts, each email is stored as an individual 
file, vs being shoved into a binary .mbx file that could get corrupted at any 
time! 


THANKS IN ADVANCE!
 
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Re: Evolution & ThunderBird

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On Wed, 2024-06-19 at 15:16 -0400, Jerry Mellon wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> New user having trouble with evolution. I think that I have it setup
> correctly, but it will not login
> 
> to my email accounts. At the bottom of screen it is scanning the email
> server from my login but then 
>  
> a box pops up indicating that there was an error trying to login and
> asks for the password, which I supply and box closes only to return
> shortly with the same response.
> I have used the account on my other system and no problem so the
> account is OK.
>   
> I tried to download Thunderbird to give it a try but it is missing
> some dependencies an will not
> load.

Hi.. I started using Evolution several months ago. Am still working out
some kinks myself. I just test drove adding a second mail account for a
same user, and it started walking me through that process. What about
trying that for the same account that's failing right now?

What I'm thinking is maybe there was a quiet typo, a missed field, or
something. I say that because I'm having an awful time seeing the
characters I'm typing here on mine. I've had typos galore in two emails.

You could give your favorite email a new (second) account name, see if
it works, delete the first account if the second one works, and then
rename the second to the first account name that is presumed memorable.

If a second account ends up working, make sure to click through that
"hamburger" or whatever official method exists to delete the first
account. In other words, don't just delete the name in the folder
hierarchy wherever you're seeing it (mine's a directory tree on the
left).

My brain keeps wanting to note that e.g. Gmail used to make us jump
through painful hoops to use desktop programs like Evolution. That
didn't happen for me this time, but maybe other email providers still
have the detail that needs addressed on their online end and that isn't
seen while setting up an Evolution account (versus other email
programs).

That inspires me to then say, if I was stuck in this situation, I'd do a
quick Internet search for my specific email provider along with keywords
like Linux AND Evolution to cut down on false positive returns. Maybe
someone has already presented a detailed step-by-step how-to after their
own fails at this.

Just thinking out loud. I'll say this, Evolution email has real-l-l-ly
worked out for me _this time_ after I had not had a good experience with
it multiple times in the past.

Cindy :)
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to find backup and restore under "File") *

Evolution & ThunderBird

[Jerry Mellon]

Hello,

New user having trouble with evolution. I think that I have it setup 
correctly, but it will not login


to my email accounts. At the bottom of screen it is scanning the email 
server from my login but then


a box pops up indicating that there was an error trying to login and 
asks for the password, which I supply and box closes only to return 
shortly with the same response.


I have used the account on my other system and no problem so the account 
is OK.


I tried to download Thunderbird to give it a try but it is missing some 
dependencies an will not


load.

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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

[yudi v]

I guess the status quo has not changed over the last 4 years.
There are lot of hacks for different clients but was hoping yahoo would make
the IMAP access freely available.

Scott's suggestion to make MUA spoof a mobile device id or to use Mutt dont
look like much of an improvement over Zimbra. It's as good a client as any
but does not integrate well with the desktop.
I guess I will stick with zimbra.

Thank you.

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Yudi

Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

[John L. Cunningham]

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 05:05:46PM +1000, yudi v wrote:
> 
> I would like to move away from Zimbra (it's not Yahoo owned anymore), and was
> curious if any other desktop clients could access Yahoo mail.

It works well enough with Mutt. Yahoo does tend to disconnect the IMAP session 
if I dawdle. It's probably something I could fix by changing the keepalive 
setting, but I haven't found it worth looking into.
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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

[Scott Ferguson]

On 14/08/11 17:05, yudi v wrote:


For Yahoo the answer is yes, and no. Yahoo provide IMAP access but
try and restrict it to mobile devices that won't run their Zimbra
client. You'll have to make your MUA spoof a mobile device id - and
you'll be on a treadmill...

imap.mail.yahoo.com ; SSL � port 993

My question was specifically relating to Desktop client.


I read the post I replied to - that's what I meant by MUA.


I know that
Yahoo allows IMAP access to mobile devices.


Then have you at least tried setting your MUA to IMAP??



I would like to move away from Zimbra (it's not Yahoo owned anymore),


The commercial version is owned by VMware, the open-source client is not 
owned.



and was curious if any other desktop clients could access Yahoo mail.

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Yudi



Yahoo will continue to make that difficult. The make their return on the 
"free" email services by taking you to their "web portal", and by 
charging you extra for an email service that works - so don't expect to 
continue to get access.


Any application that can deal with IMAP, can deal with IMAP - the main 
restriction will be IMAP servers (like Yahoo's) that try and restrict 
which platform clients they'll talk to.


See also:- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=493064
and http://www.crasseux.com/linux/

If that's no longer the case, which is likely given yahoo's history of 
providing a similar level of free email service as Hotmail, you'll have 
to change your MUA ID to ("GUID" "1"). And given Yahoo's history of 
corrupting standards - who knows what they'll do next week. This is the 
company who's idea of a sound business model is to charge 1c per email 
to bypass their spam filters...


You could also try the Zindus plugin for Iceweasel or another IMAP 
proxy. Or just forward email to one of the better free email providers 
(gmail, mxmail etc).


Good luck

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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

[yudi v]

> For Yahoo the answer is yes, and no. Yahoo provide IMAP access but try and
> restrict it to mobile devices that won't run their Zimbra client. You'll
> have to make your MUA spoof a mobile device id - and you'll be on a
> treadmill...
>
> imap.mail.yahoo.com; SSL – port 993
>
> My question was specifically relating to Desktop client. I know that Yahoo
allows IMAP access to mobile devices.

I would like to move away from Zimbra (it's not Yahoo owned anymore), and
was curious if any other desktop clients could access Yahoo mail.

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Re: Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

[Scott Ferguson]

On 14/08/11 15:09, yudi v wrote:

Hi,

Is Yahoo, Ymail, Rocketmail access (I am talking about the free access,
not paid) still restricted using IMAP.
I was using Zimbra and it works fine.
Just installed a new system and was wondering if Yahoo made IMAP
accessible to all the clients like Evolution and Thunderbird.

Or is my only option Zimbra? I don't mind using it but would like to�
use evolution if possible. It integrates will with the desktop

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Wouldn't Yahoo, Ymail and Rocketmail be the best place to find an answer 
to that question?


For Yahoo the answer is yes, and no. Yahoo provide IMAP access but try 
and restrict it to mobile devices that won't run their Zimbra client. 
You'll have to make your MUA spoof a mobile device id - and you'll be on 
a treadmill...


imap.mail.yahoo.com; SSL – port 993

For the others you're going have to do the work yourself, or get someone 
else to do if for you. (sigh)


Cheers

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the world, and they've already got all our airports.

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Desktop client(Evolution, Thunderbird): Yahoo, ymail, rocketmail IMAP access

[yudi v]

Hi,

Is Yahoo, Ymail, Rocketmail access (I am talking about the free access, not
paid) still restricted using IMAP.
I was using Zimbra and it works fine.
Just installed a new system and was wondering if Yahoo made IMAP accessible
to all the clients like Evolution and Thunderbird.

Or is my only option Zimbra? I don't mind using it but would like to  use
evolution if possible. It integrates will with the desktop

-- 
Kind regards,
Yudi