Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2015-09-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:46:42 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg.
>
> A constructive suggestion!  That is obviously a good idea.

I would call it a kludge, at best. Using wget and dpkg is to invite what
used to be called 'RPM hell'. It also runs the risk of missing security
updates to packages.

-- 

Liam

Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 10 September 2015 10:33:20 Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On 2015-09-09, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:46:42 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >> When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg.
> >
> > A constructive suggestion!  That is obviously a good idea.
>
> I would call it a kludge, at best. 

I agree.  But at least it is constructive not nihilistic: "don't do it; no-one 
reasonable wants to do anything that can't be done in pure Debian".  It is 
the fact of a constructive suggestion that I was saying was a good idea, not 
the actual suggestion.

> Using wget and dpkg is to invite what 
> used to be called 'RPM hell'. It also runs the risk of missing security
> updates to packages.

Yes, I shall continue to use deb-multimedia as I always have done when it 
suits me.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Brian]

On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 23:41:45 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:31:50 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >
> > flashplayer-mozilla will install the same flashplayer as
> > flashplugin-nonfree. But there is a big difference between the
> > flashplayer what't installed in Chromium. Chromium is better in flash.
> 
> And won't play Channel 4.

Are we sure, as Paul says, it is the same flashplayer? The plugin from
Adobe, which is what flashplugin-nonfree installs:

  brian@desktop:~$ ls -l libflashplayer.so 
  -rw-rw-r-- 1 brian brian 17459332 Aug  7 19:50 libflashplayer.so

The plugin from flashplayer-mozilla:

  brian@desktop:~$ ls -l libflashplayer.so 
  -rw-r--r-- 1 brian brian 17432460 Aug 11 18:14 libflashplayer.so

The md5sums are different too. Now, why is that and does it matter?
The respective packages are based on the same source.

  http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/

identifies both plugins as the same version.

I am not claiming the file size difference implies different behaviour.

I would move the flashplayer-mozilla plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla out of
the way and substitute the flashplugin-nonfree one. What does that get
us for 4od and the iplayer?

> Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and flashplugin-nonfree 
> doesn't.  FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL.

Intriguing. Are the HAL packages installed?

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 10 September 2015 22:57:36 Lisi Reisz wrote:

I have:
> Path:
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/lib
>flashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version:
> 11.2.202.350

My husband has:
> Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
> Version: 11.2.202.508

So they are different versions.  "All" I have to find out is how to get my 
husband the same version

I'll look at that in the morning.

But I feel that we are - I am - progressing!

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:22:51 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

>On Thursday 10 September 2015 22:57:36 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>I have:
>> Path:
>> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/lib
>>flashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Version:
>> 11.2.202.350
>
>My husband has:
>> Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
>> Version: 11.2.202.508
>
>So they are different versions.  "All" I have to find out is how to get my 
>husband the same version
>
>I'll look at that in the morning.
>
>But I feel that we are - I am - progressing!
>
>Lisi
>
>

Why not just copy the file from his to yours. But first delete all
those other ones, on your system. I put all my plugins in
~/.mozilla/plugins , and tell firefox where to find them in
the ~/.bashrc file as 
MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH="/home/charlie/.mozilla/plugins"


-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 10 September 2015 13:37:03 Brian wrote:
> > Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and
> > flashplugin-nonfree doesn't.  FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL.
>
> Intriguing. Are the HAL packages installed?

All the ones you mention plus hal-trinity.   But so has my husband's computer.  
He has only the one libflashplayer.so, the mozilla one.

I, on the other hand, have three:
/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Plus two actually on my computer in some old files belonging to a client.

Reported in iceweasel thus:
   
 File: libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so,libflashplayer.so
  
Path: 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so,/usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so,/home/lisi/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.350
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

And then a table.

My husband has:

File: libflashplayer.so
Path: /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.508
State: Enabled
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

 
So it should be his that is working and mine that is not!
We both have Iceweasel 40.0.3-3~bpo70+1, though they manage to look very 
different.

Earlier in this saga, Peter had both flashplugin-nonfree and 
flashplayer-mozilla, but as it didn't work I aptitude purged both, then 
installed flashplayer-mozilla.

The problem on my husband's computer is that it complains that adblocker 
software is installed and working, so won't play.  It isn't.  I have allowed 
pop-ups, allowed cookies, cleared the cache.  I am stuck!

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:


But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to the TV,
and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on my
husband's desktop.

Lisi


Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works 
without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are 
having problems watching internet video you should give 
flashplayer-mozilla a try.

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.4.0 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda13
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 09-09-15 om 07:43 schreef Lisi Reisz:
> On Tuesday 08 September 2015 22:55:21 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> Not sure what this is for a package, but in Debian you have
>> "flashplugin-nonfree" in contrib what downloads and installs the
>> flashplugin for Mozilla.
>>
>> For Chromium there is "pepperflashplugin-nonfree".
> 
> Neither of these works with British 4oD or Channel 5.

I cannot recieve that here I expect, and I have no URL. So I cannot test
it, but I think you are wrong.

flashplugin-nonfree and pepperflashplugin-nonfree are installing the
original plugins from Adobe and Google.

>> deb-multimedia in your sources.list can give conflicts, better do not
>> use it.
> 
> Great advice if you are using your computer as an ornament or for something 
> for which you don't need deb-multimedia.  

For what do you need it?  Everything is in Debian itself.

The only thing I know, is that it's useable for libdvdcss2.
But you can play most DVD's without libdvdcss2.

> Less good if you have a purpose for 
> your computer and that purpose can only be fulfilled with deb-multimedia.

What kind of special things are you doing with your computer?

I am a sysadmin and I help many people with Debian computers.
Nobody needs deb-multimedia.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.

-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 09-09-15 om 08:20 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
> On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>
>> But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to
>> the TV,
>> and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on my
>> husband's desktop.
>>
>> Lisi
> 
> Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
> without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
> having problems watching internet video you should give
> flashplayer-mozilla a try.

Which problems has flashplayer-nonfree?

The only thing you need to do, is to update it. I use a crontab for
that. Something like this and it works for both Iceweasel and Cromium:

cd /etc/cron.d/
sudo wget http://vandervlis.nl/files/flash-update

This tries to update flash every day at 12:00.
No problem when no flashplugins are found.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.


-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:44:28 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Op 09-09-15 om 08:20 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
> > On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to
> >> the TV,
> >> and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on my
> >> husband's desktop.
> >>
> >> Lisi
> >
> > Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
> > without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
> > having problems watching internet video you should give
> > flashplayer-mozilla a try.
>
> Which problems has flashplayer-nonfree?

Channel 4oD and channel 5 refuse to play.

I'm so glad that you don't have problems.  That doesn't help me, and others I 
know, watch the programs I want to watch on my TV.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 04:55:04PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/08/2015 02:29 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >
> >I agree about the shotgun bit, or consider it more like "perfecting your
> >swimming in a shark tank."
> >
> >read:
> >https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ
> >
> >before swimming in the http://www.deb-multimedia.org tank.
> 
> 
> I don't use it at all. :) Ric

I got libdvdcss2 from there, although I probably don't it now as I can't
remember the last time I actually watched a DVD on my computer.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2015-09-08, Paul van der Vlis  wrote:
> Op 08-09-15 om 20:37 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
>> On 09/08/2015 10:40 AM, Haines Brown wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
 On 09/08/2015 12:25 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> But: why will it install in wheezy, but not in Jessie - and yet it
> is listed
> in neither. :-/

 Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.
>>>
>>> I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
>>> this line in sources.list:
>>>
>>>deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
>>>
>>> I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:
>>>
>>># aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
>>>
>>> I get:
>>>
>>>No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla
>> 
>> I use synaptic and it's there for wheezy, jessie, stretch and sid..
>> 
>> i386
>> http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/non-free/binary-i386/package/flashplayer-mozilla.php
>> 
>> 
>> amd64
>> http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/wheezy/non-free/binary-amd64/package/flashplayer-mozilla
>> 
>
> Not sure what this is for a package, but in Debian you have
> "flashplugin-nonfree" in contrib what downloads and installs the
> flashplugin for Mozilla.
>
> For Chromium there is "pepperflashplugin-nonfree".
>
> deb-multimedia in your sources.list can give conflicts, better do not
> use it.
>
> You can update the flashplugins with these commands:
> update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
> update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
>
> Better make a daily cronjob to do this, because there are much problems
> with flash. I have removed it from my machine.

If you use flashplayer-mozilla from deb-multimedia, then you get updates
automatically. Conflicts are avoided by pinning the deb-multimedia
repository.

-- 

Liam

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 07:20:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to the
> > TV, and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on
> > my husband's desktop.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
> without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
> having problems watching internet video you should give
> flashplayer-mozilla a try.

Thanks, Jimmy.  I tried it immediately, and it works without a problem on my 
desktop.  (Which isn't where I want it.  Murphy's law.)

It doesn't work on my husband's desktop.  I haven't yet done the 
trouble-shooting.

And I really want it on my TV, but I have to edit the sources list.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:34:11 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > Neither of these works with British 4oD or Channel 5.
>
> I cannot recieve that here I expect, and I have no URL. So I cannot test
> it, but I think you are wrong.

How can you possibly have a valid opinion when you can't test it?  It is you 
who are wrong.  Everyone here, who can in theory get it, has problems on 
Linux, which the channel acknowledges.

Even flashplayer-mozilla is still not working on my husband's desktop.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Brian]

On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 11:01:29 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:44:28 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > Op 09-09-15 om 08:20 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
> > > On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >> But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to
> > >> the TV,
> > >> and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on my
> > >> husband's desktop.
> > >>
> > >> Lisi
> > >
> > > Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
> > > without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
> > > having problems watching internet video you should give
> > > flashplayer-mozilla a try.
> >
> > Which problems has flashplayer-nonfree?
> 
> Channel 4oD and channel 5 refuse to play.

You have signed in successfully. Please describe what happens and what
you see on the screen when you try to watch a programme.

> I'm so glad that you don't have problems.  That doesn't help me, and others I 
> know, watch the programs I want to watch on my TV.

No problem with 4od here on two machines.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:12:57 Brian wrote:
> On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 11:01:29 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:44:28 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > > Op 09-09-15 om 08:20 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
> > > > On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > >> But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to
> > > >> the TV,
> > > >> and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on
> > > >> my husband's desktop.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lisi
> > > >
> > > > Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
> > > > without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
> > > > having problems watching internet video you should give
> > > > flashplayer-mozilla a try.
> > >
> > > Which problems has flashplayer-nonfree?
> >
> > Channel 4oD and channel 5 refuse to play.
>
> You have signed in successfully. Please describe what happens and what
> you see on the screen when you try to watch a programme.

All three boxen are  different.  
One just plays.  With flashplayer-mozilla.
One I see an eternally turning white circle.
One starts to play and then stops and refuses to go any further until I turn 
adblock off.  I have no adblock.  I have even installed adblock so that I 
could turn it off.  When that didn't work I uninstalled it again.

On the Jessie machine, I installed Pipelight.  I was wading through seeing 
whether I could do anything about the dependencies that are suggested as 
potential problems, when flashplayer-mozilla was suggested, so I tried it.
>
> > I'm so glad that you don't have problems.  That doesn't help me, and
> > others I know, watch the programs I want to watch on my TV.
>
> No problem with 4od here on two machines.

So that's three I know work.  One of mine and two of yours.  And I do in fact 
know of one or two others.  If you are saying that you have solved the 
problem, consistently, and you are very good at solving problems, in view of 
the number of people who struggle with this, it would be charitable to post 
your solution somewhere on line.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Brian]

On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 14:28:57 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:12:57 Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 11:01:29 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:44:28 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> > > > Op 09-09-15 om 08:20 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
> > > > > On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > >> But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to
> > > > >> the TV,
> > > > >> and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on
> > > > >> my husband's desktop.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Lisi
> > > > >
> > > > > Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
> > > > > without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
> > > > > having problems watching internet video you should give
> > > > > flashplayer-mozilla a try.
> > > >
> > > > Which problems has flashplayer-nonfree?
> > >
> > > Channel 4oD and channel 5 refuse to play.
> >
> > You have signed in successfully. Please describe what happens and what
> > you see on the screen when you try to watch a programme.
> 
> All three boxen are  different.  
> One just plays.  With flashplayer-mozilla.
> One I see an eternally turning white circle.
> One starts to play and then stops and refuses to go any further until I turn 
> adblock off.  I have no adblock.  I have even installed adblock so that I 
> could turn it off.  When that didn't work I uninstalled it again.

I have no explanations for the first and third experiences but can
reproduce the second one if I don't do what is described below.
 
> On the Jessie machine, I installed Pipelight.  I was wading through seeing 
> whether I could do anything about the dependencies that are suggested as 
> potential problems, when flashplayer-mozilla was suggested, so I tried it.
> >
> > > I'm so glad that you don't have problems.  That doesn't help me, and
> > > others I know, watch the programs I want to watch on my TV.
> >
> > No problem with 4od here on two machines.
> 
> So that's three I know work.  One of mine and two of yours.  And I do in fact 
> know of one or two others.  If you are saying that you have solved the 
> problem, consistently, and you are very good at solving problems, in view of 
> the number of people who struggle with this, it would be charitable to post 
> your solution somewhere on line.

I've just did a completely new installation of flashplugin-nonfree on a
machine which had never seen it. Your eternally turning white circle is
what I get. My feeling is that this has something to do with protected
video on 4od.

  
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/flash-player-11-problems-playing.html

Installing hal, hal-info, libhal1 and libhal1-storage cures it for me
but you seem to have a more diverse set of issues.

For some reason which I cannot remember I got the debs from a Ubuntu
PPA. Maybe the Wheezy ones didn't work for me.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/09/2015 03:10 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 07:20:31 Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to the
TV, and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on
my husband's desktop.

Lisi


Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
having problems watching internet video you should give
flashplayer-mozilla a try.


Thanks, Jimmy.  I tried it immediately, and it works without a problem on my
desktop.  (Which isn't where I want it.  Murphy's law.)

It doesn't work on my husband's desktop.  I haven't yet done the
trouble-shooting.

And I really want it on my TV, but I have to edit the sources list.

Lisi


Hunt down other versions of 'libflashplayer.so' installed where it is 
not working and remove/delete them and then reinstall, you can only have 
one libflashplayer.so installed or you will have problems.

--
Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2  - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda10
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Charlie Kravetz]

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:28:57 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

>On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:12:57 Brian wrote:
>> On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 11:01:29 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:44:28 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> > > Op 09-09-15 om 08:20 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
>> > > > On 09/08/2015 10:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> > > >> But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to
>> > > >> the TV,
>> > > >> and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on
>> > > >> my husband's desktop.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Lisi
>> > > >
>> > > > Lisi if you are asking? I can tell you 'flashplayer-mozilla' works
>> > > > without the problems that 'flashplayer-nonfree' has, So if you are
>> > > > having problems watching internet video you should give
>> > > > flashplayer-mozilla a try.
>> > >
>> > > Which problems has flashplayer-nonfree?
>> >
>> > Channel 4oD and channel 5 refuse to play.
>>
>> You have signed in successfully. Please describe what happens and what
>> you see on the screen when you try to watch a programme.
>
>All three boxen are  different.  
>One just plays.  With flashplayer-mozilla.
>One I see an eternally turning white circle.
>One starts to play and then stops and refuses to go any further until I turn 
>adblock off.  I have no adblock.  I have even installed adblock so that I 
>could turn it off.  When that didn't work I uninstalled it again.
>
>On the Jessie machine, I installed Pipelight.  I was wading through seeing 
>whether I could do anything about the dependencies that are suggested as 
>potential problems, when flashplayer-mozilla was suggested, so I tried it.
>>
>> > I'm so glad that you don't have problems.  That doesn't help me, and
>> > others I know, watch the programs I want to watch on my TV.
>>
>> No problem with 4od here on two machines.
>
>So that's three I know work.  One of mine and two of yours.  And I do in fact 
>know of one or two others.  If you are saying that you have solved the 
>problem, consistently, and you are very good at solving problems, in view of 
>the number of people who struggle with this, it would be charitable to post 
>your solution somewhere on line.
>
>Lisi
>

One of the things I noticed was that the flashplayer was present in
Wheezy and Stretch when Jessie became stable. For whatever reason,
Jessie Stable is missing the file. Pinning the player from Stretch
works, though.

-- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:56:54 Brian wrote:
> Installing hal, hal-info, libhal1 and libhal1-storage cures it for me
> but you seem to have a more diverse set of issues.

Sorry - I should have said.  I shall check for those.  I definitely have HAL, 
and shall check for the others.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[David Wright]

Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):

> Installing hal, hal-info, libhal1 and libhal1-storage cures it for me
> but you seem to have a more diverse set of issues.
> 
> For some reason which I cannot remember I got the debs from a Ubuntu
> PPA. Maybe the Wheezy ones didn't work for me.

I used to have HAL on lenny and squeeze. When I first upgraded wheezy
on my laptop, it wouldn't come back up when the lid was reopened.
Removing HAL (deprecated in favour of udev) fixed it. I can't see hal
in jessie but it is in sid. Is that because there's a fresh
incarnation, or is it just a survivalist?

Cheers,
David.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:56:54 Brian wrote:
> I've just did a completely new installation of flashplugin-nonfree on a
> machine which had never seen it. Your eternally turning white circle is
> what I get. My feeling is that this has something to do with protected
> video on 4od.

Bingo!  Of course.  That is exactly it.  But since it sometimes works, I am 
persevering in trying to get it working.  Channel 4 say that it sometimes 
works on Linux!!  If I can find out *why* it sometimes works and sometimes 
doesn't, I could be home and dry.

The second two are what almost everyone else I know gets.  Jimmy's suggestion 
and its working on my desktop was a revelation.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:31:50 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Op 09-09-15 om 12:04 schreef Lisi Reisz:
> > On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:34:11 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >>> Neither of these works with British 4oD or Channel 5.
> >>
> >> I cannot recieve that here I expect, and I have no URL. So I cannot test
> >> it, but I think you are wrong.
> >
> > How can you possibly have a valid opinion when you can't test it?
>
> It's my job for the last 15 years.

Since you haven't tried to get Channel 4 at all, it hasn't been your job for 
even five minutes.

> > It is you
> > who are wrong.  Everyone here, who can in theory get it, has problems on
> > Linux, which the channel acknowledges.
>
> Ah, so it has nothing to do with the choice between flashplayer-mozilla
> and flashplugin-nonfree? That was my opinion about.
>
> Yes, a channel can implement flash in such a bad way, that it's not
> possible to look at it normally for Linux users.

That is what I had consistently been saying.

>
> Yes, a channel can implement flash in such a bad way, that it's not
> possible to look at it normally for Linux users.

Yes, I know.  If you look I specifically mentioned two specific channels.  
They are trying to stop people blocking adverts.  The third channel paid for 
by advertisements is fine on Google Chrome.  And if I can get my television 
to run catch-up on those two channels by running flashplayer-mozilla, however 
illogical that may seem to you, I shall do so, however experienced in other 
matters you may be and however much you may disapprove.  

I would willingly do something else, but the only other thing that has been 
suggested (elsewhere) is Pipelight, and that too has proved problematic.

>
> E.g. here:  http://www.ookjij.nl/
> But this works: http://www.ookjij.nl/index_win.html
>
> > Even flashplayer-mozilla is still not working on my husband's desktop.
>
> flashplayer-mozilla will install the same flashplayer as
> flashplugin-nonfree. But there is a big difference between the
> flashplayer what't installed in Chromium. Chromium is better in flash.

And won't play Channel 4.

Nonetheless, flashplayer-mozilla works on my desktop and flashplugin-nonfree 
doesn't.  FOR THIS SPECIFIC CHANNEL.

> For security reasons I don't use flash anymore on my work-computer.
> What I see there, is that really many sites use HTML5 when there is no
> flash available. I think this is because of tablet-computers. On tablets
> is no flash available.

That is completely irrelevant to my presented problem.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Wednesday 09 September 2015 20:46:42 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg.

A constructive suggestion!  That is obviously a good idea.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Brian]

On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 11:24:32 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
> 
> > Installing hal, hal-info, libhal1 and libhal1-storage cures it for me
> > but you seem to have a more diverse set of issues.
> > 
> > For some reason which I cannot remember I got the debs from a Ubuntu
> > PPA. Maybe the Wheezy ones didn't work for me.
> 
> I used to have HAL on lenny and squeeze. When I first upgraded wheezy
> on my laptop, it wouldn't come back up when the lid was reopened.
> Removing HAL (deprecated in favour of udev) fixed it. I can't see hal
> in jessie but it is in sid. Is that because there's a fresh
> incarnation, or is it just a survivalist?

My understanding is that HAL has gone from Debian, never to return. The
sid package is for the unofficial m68k port only.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Brian]

On Wed 09 Sep 2015 at 16:02:57 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:56:54 Brian wrote:
> > I've just did a completely new installation of flashplugin-nonfree on a
> > machine which had never seen it. Your eternally turning white circle is
> > what I get. My feeling is that this has something to do with protected
> > video on 4od.
> 
> Bingo!  Of course.  That is exactly it.  But since it sometimes works, I am 
> persevering in trying to get it working.  Channel 4 say that it sometimes 
> works on Linux!!  If I can find out *why* it sometimes works and sometimes 
> doesn't, I could be home and dry.

I am convinced the HAL packages are required for flash with 4od, if only
because the only machine I do not have them on doesn't play programmes.
 
> The second two are what almost everyone else I know gets.  Jimmy's suggestion 
> and its working on my desktop was a revelation.

I cannot see what flashplayer-mozilla brings to the party that is not
contained in flashplugin-nonfree. Both have libflashplayer, which is
the essential library needed, and both are up-to-date. After that, it
is window dressing.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 09-09-15 om 12:04 schreef Lisi Reisz:
> On Wednesday 09 September 2015 09:34:11 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>>> Neither of these works with British 4oD or Channel 5.
>>
>> I cannot recieve that here I expect, and I have no URL. So I cannot test
>> it, but I think you are wrong.
> 
> How can you possibly have a valid opinion when you can't test it?  

It's my job for the last 15 years.

> It is you 
> who are wrong.  Everyone here, who can in theory get it, has problems on 
> Linux, which the channel acknowledges.

Ah, so it has nothing to do with the choice between flashplayer-mozilla
and flashplugin-nonfree? That was my opinion about.

Yes, a channel can implement flash in such a bad way, that it's not
possible to look at it normally for Linux users.

E.g. here:  http://www.ookjij.nl/
But this works: http://www.ookjij.nl/index_win.html

> Even flashplayer-mozilla is still not working on my husband's desktop.

flashplayer-mozilla will install the same flashplayer as
flashplugin-nonfree. But there is a big difference between the
flashplayer what't installed in Chromium. Chromium is better in flash.

For security reasons I don't use flash anymore on my work-computer.
What I see there, is that really many sites use HTML5 when there is no
flash available. I think this is because of tablet-computers. On tablets
is no flash available.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.

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https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 09-09-15 om 12:20 schreef Liam O'Toole:

> If you use flashplayer-mozilla from deb-multimedia, then you get updates
> automatically. 

When you use cron, you get updates automatically too. See my other post.

> Conflicts are avoided by pinning the deb-multimedia repository.

I think this is complex to do right.

My experience: deb-multimedia in sources.list gives problems.
See: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#Common_issues

When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.


-- 
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https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2015-09-09, Paul van der Vlis  wrote:
> Op 09-09-15 om 12:20 schreef Liam O'Toole:
>
>> If you use flashplayer-mozilla from deb-multimedia, then you get updates
>> automatically. 
>
> When you use cron, you get updates automatically too. See my other post.

I saw that, thanks. I prefer to manage updates through APT. Each to his
own.

>
>> Conflicts are avoided by pinning the deb-multimedia repository.
>
> I think this is complex to do right.
>
> My experience: deb-multimedia in sources.list gives problems.
> See: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ#Common_issues
>
> When I need a package from deb-multimedia, I use wget and dpkg.

I've been using Flash from deb-multimedia for years without issue (on
stable releases, I grant you). I use the following pinning:

Package: *
Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages
Pin-Priority: 100

-- 

Liam

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/08/2015 10:40 AM, Haines Brown wrote:

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:

On 09/08/2015 12:25 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:


But: why will it install in wheezy, but not in Jessie - and yet it is listed
in neither. :-/


Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.


I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
this line in sources.list:

   deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:

   # aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla

I get:

   No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla


I use synaptic and it's there for wheezy, jessie, stretch and sid..

i386 
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/non-free/binary-i386/package/flashplayer-mozilla.php 



amd64 
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/wheezy/non-free/binary-amd64/package/flashplayer-mozilla 


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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Haines Brown]

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 01:52:56PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/08/2015 01:30 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
> >On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> 
> Trouble shooting with a shotgun here... suppose you add "contrib" to
> that line and try again?? Ric

Thanks, but no good. Produces 404 error. I found the problem and was
able to install the app.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Ric Moore]

On 09/08/2015 02:29 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 01:52:56PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:

On 09/08/2015 01:30 PM, Haines Brown wrote:

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:



Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.


I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
this line in sources.list:

   deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:

   # aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla

I get:

   No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla


Trouble shooting with a shotgun here... suppose you add "contrib" to that
line and try again?? Ric

p/s I do have flashplugin-nonfree installed instead.


I agree about the shotgun bit, or consider it more like "perfecting your
swimming in a shark tank."

read:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ

before swimming in the http://www.deb-multimedia.org tank.



I don't use it at all. :) Ric


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..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 08-09-15 om 20:37 schreef Jimmy Johnson:
> On 09/08/2015 10:40 AM, Haines Brown wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
>>> On 09/08/2015 12:25 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>>
 But: why will it install in wheezy, but not in Jessie - and yet it
 is listed
 in neither. :-/
>>>
>>> Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.
>>
>> I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
>> this line in sources.list:
>>
>>deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
>>
>> I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:
>>
>># aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
>>
>> I get:
>>
>>No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla
> 
> I use synaptic and it's there for wheezy, jessie, stretch and sid..
> 
> i386
> http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/non-free/binary-i386/package/flashplayer-mozilla.php
> 
> 
> amd64
> http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/wheezy/non-free/binary-amd64/package/flashplayer-mozilla
> 

Not sure what this is for a package, but in Debian you have
"flashplugin-nonfree" in contrib what downloads and installs the
flashplugin for Mozilla.

For Chromium there is "pepperflashplugin-nonfree".

deb-multimedia in your sources.list can give conflicts, better do not
use it.

You can update the flashplugins with these commands:
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install

Better make a daily cronjob to do this, because there are much problems
with flash. I have removed it from my machine.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.




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Re: Re : adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Martin Read]

On 06/09/15 22:16, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' that is in Debian main will solve the
flash problem.


This statement is factually incorrect, as no package of that name exists 
in jessie main.


A package of that name *does* exist in the deb-multimedia repositories.

Which program shows info about virtual packages --- apt-cache no good. (was ... Re: Re : adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie)

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 02:16:09PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:


[BIG snip]

> 
> Installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' that is in Debian main will solve the flash
> problem.

# apt-cache show flashplayer-mozilla
N: Can't select versions from package 'flashplayer-mozilla' as it is purely 
virtual
N: No packages found

I tried this from the man page:

apt-cache show --all-names flashplayer-mozilla

but got this as output:
E: Command line option --all-names is not understood

seems like the man page is out of sync. 

Is there another way of seeing the info about flashplayer-mozilla?

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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 08 September 2015 17:01:34 Martin Read wrote:
> On 06/09/15 22:16, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > Installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' that is in Debian main will solve the
> > flash problem.
>
> This statement is factually incorrect, as no package of that name exists
> in jessie main.
>
> A package of that name *does* exist in the deb-multimedia repositories.

Ah!  That *may* be my answer.  I'll have to check.  Thanks.

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Ric Moore]

On 09/08/2015 12:25 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:


But: why will it install in wheezy, but not in Jessie - and yet it is listed
in neither. :-/


Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.


--
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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 06 September 2015 22:16:09 Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 09/06/2015 12:54 PM, Staszek wrote:
> > On 2015-08-03 13:17, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Likely the upgrade broke your manual installation. You should install
> >> the flashplugin-nonfree package from non-free repo. Anyway be careful,
> >> you probably will need to enable manually when needed in Iceweasel, as
> >> it is disabled by default due to various security problems. Maybe they
> >> are now fixed but it was this before I remove it. To upgrade the plugin,
> >> issue: update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> >>
> >> HYPRA, progressons ensemble
> >>
> >> Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61
> >>
> >> Mail: cont...@hypra.fr
> >>
> >> Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr
> >>
> >> - Staszek <stf.list.ot...@eisenbits.com> a écrit :
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> I have upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and my Adobe Flash Player in
> >>> Iceweasel stopped working:
> >>>
> >>> $ iceweasel
> >>>
> >>> (process:6255): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
> >>> 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
> >>>
> >>> ###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel timeout: cannot
> >>> send/recv
> >>>
> >>> $
> >>>
> >>> When on Wheezy, I installed it manually by just copying
> >>> libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins .
> >>> It doesn't work anymore, why?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> I prefer to avoid non-free, therefore I created a separate user for
> >>> libflashplayer.so which I downloaded from adobe.com. The page:
> >>> http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ shows that I am having
> >>> the latest version installed (11.2.202.491).
> >
> > This is not just an upgrade problem, because on fresh Jessie simply
> > copying libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins doesn't work either.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' that is in Debian main will solve the
> flash problem.

Immediately on reading this I installed flashplayer-mozilla on the computer I 
was working on - my desktop - which is running Wheezy and TDE 3.5.13.2.  It 
installed successfully and I have used it.

Yesterday I went to install it on the computer attached to the TV, running 
Jessie and TDE 14.0.2, and it failed "no candidate version found for 
flashplayer-mozilla" and I can't find it in the package lists on debian.org.  
But a search of the package lists also says that it isn't available in 
wheezy.
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=wheezy=any=path=names=flashplayer-mozilla

I have, however, just installed it on my husband's wheezy desktop, apparently 
totally successfully.  Unfortunately it doesn't fully work - it won't, at the 
moment, run 4oD.  It may be a question of the version of Iceweasel, so I 
shall have to investigate.

But: why will it install in wheezy, but not in Jessie - and yet it is listed 
in neither. :-/

Lisi

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Haines Brown]

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/08/2015 12:25 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> >But: why will it install in wheezy, but not in Jessie - and yet it is listed
> >in neither. :-/
> 
> Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.

I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
this line in sources.list:

  deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:

  # aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla

I get:

  No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Ric Moore]

On 09/08/2015 01:30 PM, Haines Brown wrote:

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:



Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.


I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
this line in sources.list:

   deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:

   # aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla

I get:

   No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla


Trouble shooting with a shotgun here... suppose you add "contrib" to 
that line and try again?? Ric


p/s I do have flashplugin-nonfree installed instead.
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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:52:56 -0400
Ric Moore  wrote:

Hello Ric,

>Trouble shooting with a shotgun here... suppose you add "contrib" to 
>that line and try again?? Ric

DMO doesn't have contrib, only main and non-free.

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Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 01:52:56PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/08/2015 01:30 PM, Haines Brown wrote:
> >On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 12:38:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> 
> >>Methinks you have deb-multimedia configured somehow in your sources.
> >
> >I suspect something else is going on. I also am running Wheezy and have
> >this line in sources.list:
> >
> >   deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
> >
> >I do an aptitude update and upgrade, and when I do:
> >
> >   # aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
> >
> >I get:
> >
> >   No candidate version found for flashplayer-mozilla
> 
> Trouble shooting with a shotgun here... suppose you add "contrib" to that
> line and try again?? Ric
> 
> p/s I do have flashplugin-nonfree installed instead.

I agree about the shotgun bit, or consider it more like "perfecting your
swimming in a shark tank."

read:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ

before swimming in the http://www.deb-multimedia.org tank.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 08 September 2015 22:55:21 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Not sure what this is for a package, but in Debian you have
> "flashplugin-nonfree" in contrib what downloads and installs the
> flashplugin for Mozilla.
>
> For Chromium there is "pepperflashplugin-nonfree".

Neither of these works with British 4oD or Channel 5.

> deb-multimedia in your sources.list can give conflicts, better do not
> use it.

Great advice if you are using your computer as an ornament or for something 
for which you don't need deb-multimedia.  Less good if you have a purpose for 
your computer and that purpose can only be fulfilled with deb-multimedia.

I was so desperate I was wondering why I didn't just buy Windows. ;-) 
deb-multimedia is a small sacrifice compared to that.

But I still haven't got it going on the computer that is attached to the TV, 
and I don't actually want it on my desktop.  And it doesn't work on my 
husband's desktop.

Lisi

Re: Re : adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 09/06/2015 12:54 PM, Staszek wrote:

On 2015-08-03 13:17, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:

Hi,

Likely the upgrade broke your manual installation. You should install the 
flashplugin-nonfree package from non-free repo. Anyway be careful, you probably 
will need to enable manually when needed in Iceweasel, as it is disabled by 
default due to various security problems. Maybe they are now fixed but it was 
this before I remove it. To upgrade the plugin, issue: 
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

regards


Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

HYPRA, progressons ensemble

Tél.: 01 84 73 06 61

Mail: cont...@hypra.fr

Site Web: http://www.hypra.fr

- Staszek <stf.list.ot...@eisenbits.com> a écrit :

Hi

I have upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and my Adobe Flash Player in
Iceweasel stopped working:

$ iceweasel

(process:6255): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
'sys_page_size == 0' failed

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel timeout: cannot
send/recv

$

When on Wheezy, I installed it manually by just copying
libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins .
It doesn't work anymore, why?

Thanks!

I prefer to avoid non-free, therefore I created a separate user for
libflashplayer.so which I downloaded from adobe.com. The page:
http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ shows that I am having the
latest version installed (11.2.202.491).


This is not just an upgrade problem, because on fresh Jessie simply
copying libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins doesn't work either.

Why?


Installing 'flashplayer-mozilla' that is in Debian main will solve the 
flash problem.

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Re: Re : adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Staszek]

On 2015-08-03 13:17, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Likely the upgrade broke your manual installation. You should install the 
> flashplugin-nonfree package from non-free repo. Anyway be careful, you 
> probably will need to enable manually when needed in Iceweasel, as it is 
> disabled by default due to various security problems. Maybe they are now 
> fixed but it was this before I remove it. To upgrade the plugin, issue: 
> update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
> 
> regards 
> 
> 
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> 
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> 
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> - Staszek <stf.list.ot...@eisenbits.com> a écrit :
>> Hi
>>
>> I have upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and my Adobe Flash Player in
>> Iceweasel stopped working:
>>
>> $ iceweasel
>>
>> (process:6255): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
>> 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
>>
>> ###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel timeout: cannot
>> send/recv
>>
>> $
>>
>> When on Wheezy, I installed it manually by just copying
>> libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins .
>> It doesn't work anymore, why?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> I prefer to avoid non-free, therefore I created a separate user for
>> libflashplayer.so which I downloaded from adobe.com. The page:
>> http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ shows that I am having the
>> latest version installed (11.2.202.491).

This is not just an upgrade problem, because on fresh Jessie simply
copying libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins doesn't work either.

Why?

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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[Philippe Gras]

Le 4 août 2015 à 11:41, Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit :

 Le Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:16:25 +0200 (CEST),
 jber...@free.fr a écrit :
 
 C'est curieux. Je ne peux en effet pas lire cette vidéo avec
 iceweasel, dont j'ai désactivé le plugin flash et activé le plugin
 vlc. En revanche, si je lis l'url de la vidéo directement avec vlc,
 la lecture fonctionne correctement. 
 
 J'ai comme une idée qu'ils limitent le nombre d'utilisateurs du
 streaming et qu'il doit y avoir un soucis avec un script.

Non, c'est pour planquer l'URL de la vidéo pour éviter qu'on ne la pique.

Sur DailyMotion par exemple, l'URL change toutes les X minutes…

Quoi qu'il arrive de toute façon c'est par une redirection que ça se passe.

 
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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

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Le Mon, 3 Aug 2015 18:16:25 +0200 (CEST),
jber...@free.fr a écrit :

 C'est curieux. Je ne peux en effet pas lire cette vidéo avec
 iceweasel, dont j'ai désactivé le plugin flash et activé le plugin
 vlc. En revanche, si je lis l'url de la vidéo directement avec vlc,
 la lecture fonctionne correctement. 

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streaming et qu'il doit y avoir un soucis avec un script.

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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

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C'est curieux. Je ne peux en effet pas lire cette vidéo avec iceweasel, dont 
j'ai désactivé le plugin flash et activé le plugin vlc. En revanche, si je lis 
l'url de la vidéo directement avec vlc, la lecture fonctionne correctement. 

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 Le 03/08/2015 13:23, Philippe Gras a écrit :
 
  Le 3 août 2015 à 11:07, Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit
  :

  Amha ce type de video est appelé à disparaître et pas le
  contraire.
 
  C'est le player qui est en flash, pas la vidéo…
 
 La video diffusée par Sky News est en mp4

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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

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Le Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:49:36 +0200,
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Ce type de vidéo est impossible à visionner sans flashplayer, donc le 
 bidule adobe, même si le html5 est apparu sur youtube, n'est pas prêt
 de disparaître.

Amha ce type de video est appelé à disparaître et pas le contraire. 

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adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[Staszek]

Hi

I have upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and my Adobe Flash Player in
Iceweasel stopped working:

$ iceweasel

(process:6255): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
'sys_page_size == 0' failed

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel timeout: cannot
send/recv

$

When on Wheezy, I installed it manually by just copying
libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins .
It doesn't work anymore, why?

Thanks!

I prefer to avoid non-free, therefore I created a separate user for
libflashplayer.so which I downloaded from adobe.com. The page:
http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ shows that I am having the
latest version installed (11.2.202.491).

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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

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Le 03/08/2015 13:23, Philippe Gras a écrit :


Le 3 août 2015 à 11:07, Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit :



Amha ce type de video est appelé à disparaître et pas le contraire.


C'est le player qui est en flash, pas la vidéo…


La video diffusée par Sky News  est en mp4

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Re : adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Hi,

Likely the upgrade broke your manual installation. You should install the 
flashplugin-nonfree package from non-free repo. Anyway be careful, you probably 
will need to enable manually when needed in Iceweasel, as it is disabled by 
default due to various security problems. Maybe they are now fixed but it was 
this before I remove it. To upgrade the plugin, issue: 
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

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- Staszek stf.list.ot...@eisenbits.com a écrit :
 Hi
 
 I have upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and my Adobe Flash Player in
 Iceweasel stopped working:
 
 $ iceweasel
 
 (process:6255): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion
 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
 
 ###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel timeout: cannot
 send/recv
 
 $
 
 When on Wheezy, I installed it manually by just copying
 libflashplayer.so to .mozilla/plugins .
 It doesn't work anymore, why?
 
 Thanks!
 
 I prefer to avoid non-free, therefore I created a separate user for
 libflashplayer.so which I downloaded from adobe.com. The page:
 http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/ shows that I am having the
 latest version installed (11.2.202.491).
 
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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[Philippe Gras]

Le 3 août 2015 à 11:07, Haricophile haricoph...@aranha.fr a écrit :

 Le Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:49:36 +0200,
 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 Ce type de vidéo est impossible à visionner sans flashplayer, donc le 
 bidule adobe, même si le html5 est apparu sur youtube, n'est pas prêt
 de disparaître.
 
 Amha ce type de video est appelé à disparaître et pas le contraire. 

C'est le player qui est en flash, pas la vidéo…

 
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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[Haricophile]

Le Sat, 01 Aug 2015 15:57:34 +,
Alex PADOLY apado...@padoly.besaba.com a écrit :

 install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz 

Consulter  https://debian-facile.org/doc:media:flash en particulier la
section freshplayerplugin.

Ceci étant, comme firefox bloque maintenant par défaut le player, que
Apple n'a pas une grande affinité avec flash, que youtube vire sa
cutie, il y a un bon espoir de voir bientôt le net débarrassé de cette
daube de moins en moins indispensable.


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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[jbernon]

Cette discussion a déjà eu lieu récemment sur la liste. 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2015/07/msg00144.html 

Personnellement j'en ai retenu qu'il valait mieux désactiver flash-player, 
installer et activer le paquet browser-plugin-vlc. C'est ce que j'ai fait et je 
n'ai en effet plus de problème pour consulter les vidéos. 

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 Alex PADOLY apado...@padoly.besaba.com a écrit :

  install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz

 Consulter https://debian-facile.org/doc:media:flash en particulier la
 section freshplayerplugin.

 Ceci étant, comme firefox bloque maintenant par défaut le player, que
 Apple n'a pas une grande affinité avec flash, que youtube vire sa
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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[maderios]

Le 02/08/2015 20:20, jber...@free.fr a écrit :

Cette discussion a déjà eu lieu récemment sur la liste.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2015/07/msg00144.html

Personnellement j'en ai retenu qu'il valait mieux désactiver
flash-player, installer et activer le paquet browser-plugin-vlc. C'est
ce que j'ai fait et je n'ai en effet plus de problème pour consulter les
vidéos.

Salut
Ce type de vidéo est impossible à visionner sans flashplayer, donc le 
bidule adobe, même si le html5 est apparu sur youtube, n'est pas prêt de 
disparaître.

http://news.sky.com/watch-live

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Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[Prego Jérémy]

bonjour,

vous devez voir un libflashplayer.so a la racine du dossier a copier 
dans: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/


ensuite un petit chmod +x /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so et 
c'est tout bon !


jerem
Le 01/08/2015 17:57, Alex PADOLY a écrit :


Bonsoir à tous,

j'ai téléchargé un fichier compressé permettant de mettre à jour 
flashplayer dans Firefox:


install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz

Je décompresse le fichier et je me retrouve dans mon répertoire 
téléchargement avec l'arborescence suivante:


/usr/bin/flash-player-proerties

/usr/lib/Kde4

/usr/share/application

Comment mettre à jour ce plugin pour Firefox car il ne semble pas 
avoir de script d'installation.


Merci.

Alex PADOLY

Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonsoir à tous, 

j'ai téléchargé un fichier compressé permettant de
mettre à jour flashplayer dans Firefox:


install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz 

Je décompresse le fichier
et je me retrouve dans mon répertoire téléchargement avec l'arborescence
suivante: 

/usr/bin/flash-player-proerties 

/usr/lib/Kde4


/usr/share/application 

Comment mettre à jour ce plugin pour Firefox
car il ne semble pas avoir de script d'installation. 

Merci. 

Alex
PADOLY 
 

Re: Mise à jour flash-player (tar.gz)

[Record Marc-Antoine]

Bonsoir,

Dans l'un des dossiers, vous devez avoir un fichier nommé
libflashplayer.so. C'est celui-là qui importe.
Je le copie dans
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree
et/ou dans
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

flash-player-properties sert seulement à créer une entrée Flash dans le
menu Applications.

En espérant vous avoir aidé.


Le 01/08/2015 17:57, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
 Bonsoir à tous,
 
  
 
 j'ai téléchargé un fichier compressé permettant de mettre à jour
 flashplayer dans Firefox:
 
 install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
 
 Je décompresse le fichier et je me retrouve dans mon répertoire
 téléchargement avec l'arborescence suivante:
 
  
 
 /usr/bin/flash-player-proerties
 
 /usr/lib/Kde4
 
 /usr/share/application
 
  
 
 Comment mettre à jour ce plugin pour Firefox car il ne semble pas avoir
 de script d'installation.
 
  
 
 Merci.
 
 Alex PADOLY
 
  


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Re: Asunto relacionado con la falla de Flash Player y los navegadores

[Carlos Zuniga]

2015-07-15 19:49 GMT-05:00 Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com:
 Saludos a la lista. Ya que se trajo muchas rocas el río de temas que
 se ha dicho sobre la bendita falla de Flash Player, que si esto, que
 si lo otro. No voy a sacar nada. Todo normal (Youtube con HTML5 y
 santo remedio). Ok, pero, ¿y los que, digamos, tenemos los
 videotutoriales de la empresa video2brain? Digo, porque su código
 fuente me muestra esto:
 body
 div id=flashcontent
 div align=center style=margin-top:100px;
 div style=width:265px; height:167px; border:none 1px #FF;
 background-image: url(9430830/no_flash_bg_dark.jpg);
 background-repeat:no-repeat
 div style=padding-left:10px; padding-right:10px; padding-top:50px;
 color:#ff; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif;
 font-size: 10px;Für die vollständige Funktionalität der Website
 installieren Sie bitte den aktuellen Flashplayer! Klicken Sie den
 folgenden Link um diesen kostenlos zu installieren!/div
 div style=margin-top:10px;a
 href=http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlashamp;promoid=BIOW;
 target=_blankimg src=9430830/get_flash_player.gif alt=Get
 Flash border=0 //a/div
 /div
 /div
 /div

 Y un par de scripts/noscripts respectivos. Si lo desactivo para
 Chrome/Firefox, ¿cómo hago para verlos?

 Bueno, está los respectivos vídeos para verlos separados. Pero no es
 lo mismo, ya lo intenté.


Escribeles y diles que dejen de usar flash antes de que sea demasiado tarde:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/13/8948459/adobe-flash-insecure-says-facebook-cso


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Re: Asunto relacionado con la falla de Flash Player y los navegadores

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:19:27 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 Saludos a la lista. Ya que se trajo muchas rocas el río de temas que
 se ha dicho sobre la bendita falla de Flash Player, que si esto, que si
 lo otro. No voy a sacar nada. Todo normal (Youtube con HTML5 y santo
 remedio). 

Es de santo remedio me parece a mí que no es más que un espejismo :-)

 Ok, pero, ¿y los que, digamos, tenemos los videotutoriales de
 la empresa video2brain? Digo, porque su código fuente me muestra esto:

(...)

Fácil: busca otro proveedor de videotutoriales que sea respetuoso con sus 
usuarios.

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Asunto relacionado con la falla de Flash Player y los navegadores

[Miguel Matos]

Saludos a la lista. Ya que se trajo muchas rocas el río de temas que
se ha dicho sobre la bendita falla de Flash Player, que si esto, que
si lo otro. No voy a sacar nada. Todo normal (Youtube con HTML5 y
santo remedio). Ok, pero, ¿y los que, digamos, tenemos los
videotutoriales de la empresa video2brain? Digo, porque su código
fuente me muestra esto:
body
div id=flashcontent
div align=center style=margin-top:100px;
div style=width:265px; height:167px; border:none 1px #FF;
background-image: url(9430830/no_flash_bg_dark.jpg);
background-repeat:no-repeat
div style=padding-left:10px; padding-right:10px; padding-top:50px;
color:#ff; font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif;
font-size: 10px;Für die vollständige Funktionalität der Website
installieren Sie bitte den aktuellen Flashplayer! Klicken Sie den
folgenden Link um diesen kostenlos zu installieren!/div
div style=margin-top:10px;a
href=http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlashamp;promoid=BIOW;
target=_blankimg src=9430830/get_flash_player.gif alt=Get
Flash border=0 //a/div
/div
/div
/div

Y un par de scripts/noscripts respectivos. Si lo desactivo para
Chrome/Firefox, ¿cómo hago para verlos?

Bueno, está los respectivos vídeos para verlos separados. Pero no es
lo mismo, ya lo intenté.

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[BasaBuru]

El Martes, 14 de julio de 2015 20:56:07 Eduardo Rios escribió:

 Las vulnerabilidades afectan a las versiones de Adobe Flash Player
 18.0.0.204 (y anteriores) para Windows, Macintosh y Linux. Adobe ha
 confirmado los problemas y confirma que durante esta semana publicará
 una actualización, considerando que la fuga de datos de Hacking Team
 está disponible públicamente, el riesgo aumenta para todos los usuarios.
 Como contramedida se recomienda desactivar Adobe Flash Player hasta que
 la actualización esté disponible.

Pues eso, para eso esta el standar HTML5

En la media que en que la gente abandone flash de adobe. Mejor nos irá a todas

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

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El 15/07/15 a las 10:10, Eduardo Rios escribió:
 El 15/07/15 a las 16:20, Camaleón escribió:
 
 La actualización para windows ya estaba disponible ayer, para
 Linux sigue la misma vulnerable. ¡Ay, Adobe! quién te ha visto y
 quién te ve :-(
 
 Para Windows 8 / 8.1 tengo entendido que es la propia Microsoft la
 que publica parches en Windows Update, y a fecha de hoy, ni
 rastro.
 
 Igual es que pasa ya también de flash, como dicen aquí [1]
 
 [1] 
 http://www.adslzone.net/2015/07/14/mozilla-se-cansa-de-los-agujeros-de
- -seguridad-de-flash-y-lo-bloquea-en-firefox/

 
 

Y esa es la razón por la que siempre he tenido flash bloqueado y solo
activo bajo petición.


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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 14 Jul 2015 20:56:07 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 14/07/15 a las 17:18, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Pues no hay otra, ¿que quiere iceweasel, que me la invente? :-D

 Es para protegerte de un 0-day exploit¹ que anda por ahí haciendo de
 las suyas. En cuanto saquen una versión actualizada del plugin y la
 instales ya no te dirá que es vulnerable ;-)

 ¹https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p948

 
 Gracias. Pues si. Acabo de leer esto:

(...)

 http://unaaldia.hispasec.com/2015/07/nuevos-0day-de-adobe-flash-player.html

La actualización para windows ya estaba disponible ayer, para Linux sigue 
la misma vulnerable. ¡Ay, Adobe! quién te ha visto y quién te ve :-(

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 15/07/15 a las 12:31, Camaleón escibió:

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:18:57 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:


El 15/07/15 a las 12:10, Camaleón escibió:


(...)


Acaba de actualizarse en Ubuntu's. Es un script que lo descarga desde
adobe así que ya debe estar solucionado para Linux. Sólo falta que los
amigos/as de de-multimedia lo actualicen.


No, sigue la versión vulnerable (11.2.202.481).

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/



Caray!! Es cierto! Hay que abstenerse de visitar páginas XXX por unos
días. Diablos!


X-)

Yo hace tiempo que tengo java y flash desactivados en el navegador y la
verdad es que no los echo de menos... sólo activo flash manualmente para
ver algunas series online O:-) pero más allá de eso lo único que me
pierdo es algún que otro vídeo de gatitos sin los que puedo vivir.

Saludos,

Hago lo mismo con Flash, detesto las páginas que se vuelven 
increíblemente pesadas y lentas cuando están plagadas de publicidad flash.
Es muy buena la opción de Firefox que permite activar sólo cuando se 
necesita. Y aunque parezca un poco más atrasado Seamonkey activa sólo 
el elemento que tocamos con el puntero y deja desactivados el resto 
pueda tener la página.


Aparte: ¿Por qué no existe en PC una opción como usan los celulares en 
la que ante un video lo abren con el reproductor local en lugar de usar 
flash o lo que sea? En Firefox para PC se puede usar una extensión que 
se llama Videodownloadhelper pero para descargar el video tiene que 
estar activado el flash y una vez que comienza la descarga se puede 
desactivar, pero no le pasa la descarga a un reproductor local.


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Reproducción de vídeo en navegadores (era: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1)

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:48:33 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

(...)

 Aparte: ¿Por qué no existe en PC una opción como usan los celulares en
 la que ante un video lo abren con el reproductor local en lugar de usar
 flash o lo que sea? En Firefox para PC se puede usar una extensión que
 se llama Videodownloadhelper pero para descargar el video tiene que
 estar activado el flash y una vez que comienza la descarga se puede
 desactivar, pero no le pasa la descarga a un reproductor local.

Se puede hacer, de hecho yo lo tengo configurado así en Firefox porque de 
lo contrario no podría ver vídeos que usan el contenedor mp4 (mpeg4+aac) 
ya que Firefox no dispone de soporte nativo en html5 para ese tipo de 
formato contenedor. 

¿El problema? Que tienes que configurarlo manualmente para que te 
pregunte qué hacer con cada extensión (p. ej., mp4 → preguntar/abrir con 
VLC) y claro, no es plan, ni tampoco todas las páginas web usan el código 
html adecuado para que en el caso de que no se pueda reproducir el vídeo 
de manera nativa (si lo admite el navegador) se genere ese archivo y que 
el navegador te pregunte.

Que por cierto, me parece una auténtica metedura de pata (por no decir 
una palabra más soez) lo que han hecho en el W3C con las etiquetas video 
y audio, parece que no han aprendido nada de la famosa guerra de los 
navegadores de antaño. Chapuza :-/

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:18:57 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

 El 15/07/15 a las 12:10, Camaleón escibió:

(...)

 Acaba de actualizarse en Ubuntu's. Es un script que lo descarga desde
 adobe así que ya debe estar solucionado para Linux. Sólo falta que los
 amigos/as de de-multimedia lo actualicen.

 No, sigue la versión vulnerable (11.2.202.481).

 http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/


 Caray!! Es cierto! Hay que abstenerse de visitar páginas XXX por unos
 días. Diablos!

X-)

Yo hace tiempo que tengo java y flash desactivados en el navegador y la 
verdad es que no los echo de menos... sólo activo flash manualmente para 
ver algunas series online O:-) pero más allá de eso lo único que me 
pierdo es algún que otro vídeo de gatitos sin los que puedo vivir.

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:05:26 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

 El 15/07/15 a las 11:45, Camaleón escibió:
 El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:40:04 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

(...)

 Para Windows 8 / 8.1 tengo entendido que es la propia Microsoft la que
 publica parches en Windows Update, y a fecha de hoy, ni rastro.

 (...)

 El parche para todas las versiones de Windows está en la página de
 Adobe,
 claro. Windows Update irá a su bola.


 Acaba de actualizarse en Ubuntu's. Es un script que lo descarga desde
 adobe así que ya debe estar solucionado para Linux. Sólo falta que los
 amigos/as de de-multimedia lo actualicen.

No, sigue la versión vulnerable (11.2.202.481).

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Camaleón]

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:40:04 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 15/07/15 a las 16:20, Camaleón escribió:
 
 La actualización para windows ya estaba disponible ayer, para Linux
 sigue la misma vulnerable. ¡Ay, Adobe! quién te ha visto y quién te ve
 :-(
 
 Para Windows 8 / 8.1 tengo entendido que es la propia Microsoft la que
 publica parches en Windows Update, y a fecha de hoy, ni rastro.

(...)

El parche para todas las versiones de Windows está en la página de Adobe, 
claro. Windows Update irá a su bola.

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Eduardo Rios]

El 15/07/15 a las 16:20, Camaleón escribió:


La actualización para windows ya estaba disponible ayer, para Linux sigue
la misma vulnerable. ¡Ay, Adobe! quién te ha visto y quién te ve :-(


Para Windows 8 / 8.1 tengo entendido que es la propia Microsoft la que 
publica parches en Windows Update, y a fecha de hoy, ni rastro.


Igual es que pasa ya también de flash, como dicen aquí [1]

[1] 
http://www.adslzone.net/2015/07/14/mozilla-se-cansa-de-los-agujeros-de-seguridad-de-flash-y-lo-bloquea-en-firefox/


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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 15/07/15 a las 11:45, Camaleón escibió:

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:40:04 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:


El 15/07/15 a las 16:20, Camaleón escribió:


La actualización para windows ya estaba disponible ayer, para Linux
sigue la misma vulnerable. ¡Ay, Adobe! quién te ha visto y quién te ve
:-(


Para Windows 8 / 8.1 tengo entendido que es la propia Microsoft la que
publica parches en Windows Update, y a fecha de hoy, ni rastro.


(...)

El parche para todas las versiones de Windows está en la página de Adobe,
claro. Windows Update irá a su bola.

Saludos,

Acaba de actualizarse en Ubuntu's. Es un script que lo descarga desde 
adobe así que ya debe estar solucionado para Linux. Sólo falta que los 
amigos/as de de-multimedia lo actualicen.


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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 15/07/15 a las 12:10, Camaleón escibió:

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:05:26 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:


El 15/07/15 a las 11:45, Camaleón escibió:

El Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:40:04 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:


(...)


Para Windows 8 / 8.1 tengo entendido que es la propia Microsoft la que
publica parches en Windows Update, y a fecha de hoy, ni rastro.


(...)

El parche para todas las versiones de Windows está en la página de
Adobe,
claro. Windows Update irá a su bola.



Acaba de actualizarse en Ubuntu's. Es un script que lo descarga desde
adobe así que ya debe estar solucionado para Linux. Sólo falta que los
amigos/as de de-multimedia lo actualicen.


No, sigue la versión vulnerable (11.2.202.481).

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Saludos,

Caray!! Es cierto! Hay que abstenerse de visitar páginas XXX por unos 
días. Diablos!


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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Santiago Vila]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 06:58:27PM -0400, c...@pinarte.cult.cu wrote:
 La cuestión está que utilizo videos en mis webs (No las puedo
 visualizar)

Esto sí que tiene delito. O sea, que ¡la web es tuya!
En ese caso lo que debes hacer es abandonar Flash y pasarte a HTML5.


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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:58:27 -0400, cpp escribió:

 Hola tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, me encanta este entorno.
 Utilizo como navegadores Iceweasel y Chromium. Me explico, No tengo
 Internet, pero si los repos local de Debian 8.1. La cuestión está que
 utilizo videos en mis webs (No las puedo visualizar) y me pide que
 instale el plugin Adobe Flash Player. He intentado con varios, pero
 nada. Cuál plugin me recomiendan instalar para que funcione en ambos
 navegadores y cómo hacerlo.
 
 Anteriormente esto me funcionaba en Debian 7.

Mal que pese, tienes que instalar el plugin de Adobe Flash Player porque 
seguramente tienes instalado el plugin libre y no siempre funciona ni es 
detectado correctamente, aunque también es posible que la página web te 
pida una versión determinada del complemento y para Linux y Firefox ya no 
hay más que la 11.2.202.481. Para Chromium ya no no lo sé :-?

Debido a la licencia de Adobe que no permite distribuir libremente el 
binario tienes que bajarlo de su página web, así que tendrás que 
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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:46:49 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 14/07/15 a las 15:22, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Mal que pese, tienes que instalar el plugin de Adobe Flash Player
 porque seguramente tienes instalado el plugin libre y no siempre
 funciona ni es detectado correctamente, aunque también es posible que
 la página web te pida una versión determinada del complemento y para
 Linux y Firefox ya no hay más que la 11.2.202.481. Para Chromium ya
 no no lo sé :-?

(...)

 Yo tengo la versión 11.2.202.481 que es la última que hay disponible
 para linux y firefox, y hasta esa versión me la bloquea iceweasel porque
 tiene vulnerabilidades de seguridad.
 
 Pues no hay otra, ¿que quiere iceweasel, que me la invente? :-D

Es para protegerte de un 0-day exploit¹ que anda por ahí haciendo de 
las suyas. En cuanto saquen una versión actualizada del plugin y la 
instales ya no te dirá que es vulnerable ;-)

¹https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p948

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Eduardo Rios]

El 14/07/15 a las 15:22, Camaleón escribió:

El Mon, 13 Jul 2015 18:58:27 -0400, cpp escribió:


Hola tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, me encanta este entorno.
Utilizo como navegadores Iceweasel y Chromium. Me explico, No tengo
Internet, pero si los repos local de Debian 8.1. La cuestión está que
utilizo videos en mis webs (No las puedo visualizar) y me pide que
instale el plugin Adobe Flash Player. He intentado con varios, pero
nada. Cuál plugin me recomiendan instalar para que funcione en ambos
navegadores y cómo hacerlo.

Anteriormente esto me funcionaba en Debian 7.


Mal que pese, tienes que instalar el plugin de Adobe Flash Player porque
seguramente tienes instalado el plugin libre y no siempre funciona ni es
detectado correctamente, aunque también es posible que la página web te
pida una versión determinada del complemento y para Linux y Firefox ya no
hay más que la 11.2.202.481. Para Chromium ya no no lo sé :-?

Debido a la licencia de Adobe que no permite distribuir libremente el
binario tienes que bajarlo de su página web, así que tendrás que
obtenerlo por algún medio que te sea factible.

Saludos,



Yo tengo la versión 11.2.202.481 que es la última que hay disponible 
para linux y firefox, y hasta esa versión me la bloquea iceweasel porque 
tiene vulnerabilidades de seguridad.


Pues no hay otra, ¿que quiere iceweasel, que me la invente? :-D

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Eduardo Rios]

El 14/07/15 a las 17:18, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:46:49 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:


El 14/07/15 a las 15:22, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


Mal que pese, tienes que instalar el plugin de Adobe Flash Player
porque seguramente tienes instalado el plugin libre y no siempre
funciona ni es detectado correctamente, aunque también es posible que
la página web te pida una versión determinada del complemento y para
Linux y Firefox ya no hay más que la 11.2.202.481. Para Chromium ya
no no lo sé :-?


(...)


Yo tengo la versión 11.2.202.481 que es la última que hay disponible
para linux y firefox, y hasta esa versión me la bloquea iceweasel porque
tiene vulnerabilidades de seguridad.

Pues no hay otra, ¿que quiere iceweasel, que me la invente? :-D


Es para protegerte de un 0-day exploit¹ que anda por ahí haciendo de
las suyas. En cuanto saquen una versión actualizada del plugin y la
instales ya no te dirá que es vulnerable ;-)

¹https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p948

Saludos,




Gracias. Pues si. Acabo de leer esto:

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 Nuevos 0day de Adobe Flash Player relacionados con el Hacking Team
 --

La fuga de datos del Hacking Team sigue dando que hablar (y seguirá).
La semana pasada Adobe publicó una actualización (APSB15-16) para
solucionar un 0-day. En los últimos días se han anunciado dos nuevos
0day descubiertos entre la inmensa cantidad de información filtrada,
Adobe ya ha confirmado que publicará una nueva actualización para
solucionarlos.

Después de publicar una actualización de urgencia (APSA15-03) para
solucionar un primer 0day (con CVE-2015-5119) relacionado con el ataque
a Hacking Team, y de una segunda actualización (APSB15-16) que además
corregía otras 35 vulnerabilidades; Adobe se ha visto obligada a
anunciar que durante esta semana publicará una nueva actualización para
solucionar otros dos nuevos 0days encontrados durante los últimos días.

Como ya anunciamos los 400 gigas de caramelos iban a aportar un caudal
de información que daría mucho que hablar. En este caso los 0day
anunciados se identifican con los CVE-2015-5122 y CVE-2015-5123. Ambas
están relacionadas con vulnerabilidades por uso después de liberar con
la función ValueOf, en el primer caso a través de los métodos
TextBlock.createTextLine() y TextBlock.recreateTextLine(textLine),
mientras que el segundo caso afecta a un objeto BitmapData. En ambos
casos se han encontrado pruebas de concepto que muestran los efectos de
los fallos.

Las vulnerabilidades afectan a las versiones de Adobe Flash Player
18.0.0.204 (y anteriores) para Windows, Macintosh y Linux. Adobe ha
confirmado los problemas y confirma que durante esta semana publicará
una actualización, considerando que la fuga de datos de Hacking Team
está disponible públicamente, el riesgo aumenta para todos los usuarios.
Como contramedida se recomienda desactivar Adobe Flash Player hasta que
la actualización esté disponible.

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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[javier frf]

El 13 de julio de 2015, 18:58, c...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:

 Hola tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, me encanta este entorno. Utilizo
 como navegadores Iceweasel y Chromium. Me explico, No tengo Internet, pero
 si los repos local de Debian 8.1. La cuestión está que utilizo videos en
 mis webs (No las puedo visualizar) y me pide que instale el plugin Adobe
 Flash Player. He intentado con varios, pero nada. Cuál plugin me
 recomiendan instalar para que funcione en ambos navegadores y cómo
 hacerlo.

 Anteriormente esto me funcionaba en Debian 7.

 Gracias.



no es la solución mas prolija, pero instalando google-chrome obtienes
soporte para flash player, actualizado. me parece que en los repos hay una
version pero es antigua y ya no recibe actualizaciones , solo las de
seguridad. el nombre del paquete se llama flashplugin-nonfree. saludos

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Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[cpp]

Hola tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, me encanta este entorno. Utilizo
como navegadores Iceweasel y Chromium. Me explico, No tengo Internet, pero
si los repos local de Debian 8.1. La cuestión está que utilizo videos en
mis webs (No las puedo visualizar) y me pide que instale el plugin Adobe
Flash Player. He intentado con varios, pero nada. Cuál plugin me
recomiendan instalar para que funcione en ambos navegadores y cómo
hacerlo.

Anteriormente esto me funcionaba en Debian 7.

Gracias.


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Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Jorge A. Secreto]

Hola

El 13/07/2015 20:29, javier frf francisco...@gmail.com escribió:


 El 13 de julio de 2015, 18:58, c...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:

 Hola tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, me encanta este entorno.
Utilizo
 como navegadores Iceweasel y Chromium. Me explico, No tengo Internet,
pero
 si los repos local de Debian 8.1. La cuestión está que utilizo videos en
 mis webs (No las puedo visualizar) y me pide que instale el plugin Adobe
 Flash Player. He intentado con varios, pero nada. Cuál plugin me
 recomiendan instalar para que funcione en ambos navegadores y cómo
 hacerlo.

 Anteriormente esto me funcionaba en Debian 7.

 Gracias.



 no es la solución mas prolija, pero instalando google-chrome obtienes
soporte para flash player, actualizado. me parece que en los repos hay una
version pero es antigua y ya no recibe actualizaciones , solo las de
seguridad. el nombre del paquete se llama flashplugin-nonfree. saludos


Flashplugin-nonfree lo que hace es descargar el plugin desde adobe e
instalarlo. Creo que sin internet no sirve para nada.
Abrazos

Re: Necesito plugin Adobe Flash Player para navegadores en Debian 8.1

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 13/07/15 a las 22:28, Jorge A. Secreto escribió:


Hola

El 13/07/2015 20:29, javier frf francisco...@gmail.com 
mailto:francisco...@gmail.com escribió:



 El 13 de julio de 2015, 18:58, c...@pinarte.cult.cu 
mailto:c...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:


 Hola tengo instalado Debian 8.1 Cinnamon, me encanta este entorno. 
Utilizo
 como navegadores Iceweasel y Chromium. Me explico, No tengo 
Internet, pero
 si los repos local de Debian 8.1. La cuestión está que utilizo 
videos en
 mis webs (No las puedo visualizar) y me pide que instale el plugin 
Adobe

 Flash Player. He intentado con varios, pero nada. Cuál plugin me
 recomiendan instalar para que funcione en ambos navegadores y cómo
 hacerlo.

 Anteriormente esto me funcionaba en Debian 7.

 Gracias.



 no es la solución mas prolija, pero instalando google-chrome 
obtienes soporte para flash player, actualizado. me parece que en los 
repos hay una version pero es antigua y ya no recibe actualizaciones , 
solo las de seguridad. el nombre del paquete se 
llama flashplugin-nonfree. saludos



Flashplugin-nonfree lo que hace es descargar el plugin desde adobe e 
instalarlo. Creo que sin internet no sirve para nada.

Abrazos

También podés instalarlo a mano descargándolo de la página de Adobe. 
Pesa unos 17 Mb.
Si tenés algún acceso te lo paso un link para que descargues únicamente 
libflashplayer.so que

va en /usr/lib/flashplayer-mozilla.
Si tenés forma de recibirlo te lo paso.

Saludos

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adobe flash player does not avaliable in deibian 8.1.0 AMD64

[zhangteng]

I try to install adobe flash player in debian 8.1.0 AMD64, but
it occurs some problem , this is my output :
root@zhangteng:~# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
正在读取软件包列表... 完成
正在分析软件包的依赖关系树   
正在读取状态信息... 完成   
Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by
another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate

Could anyone give me some advice ?

Re: adobe flash player does not avaliable in deibian 8.1.0 AMD64

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 17:09 +0800, zhangteng wrote:
 I try to install adobe flash player in debian 8.1.0 AMD64, but
 it occurs some problem , this is my output :
   root@zhangteng:~# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
 正在读取软件包列表... 完成
 正在分析软件包的依赖关系树   
 正在读取状态信息... 完成   
 Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by
 another package.
 This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
 is only available from another source
 
 E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate
 
 Could anyone give me some advice ?

You need to enable the non-free repository. 

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Re: Adobe Flash Player in Jessie Iceweasel and Shutterfly? Thanks

[Thomas H. George]

On 06/12/2015 03:34 PM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 06/12/2015 at 02:58 PM, Thomas H. George wrote:


Using Iceweasel I continually get a popup saying Flash Player needed
to display some content. In fact, all the content seems to be
displayed so the popup is only a minor annoyance.

BUT then a friend send a link to photos at shutterfly which I can't
view as Flash Player is required.

I tried installing Flash Player by downloading the tar.gz version and
following the installation instructions. Popup is still there.  Next
I downloaded the .rpm version and used alien and dpkg to install it.
Popup is still there and no photos.

First, if you need the Flash Player, I recommend installing it via the
'flashplugin-nonfree' package.

Right. Added non-free to entries in sources.list. Updated, ran 
dist-upgrade and then install flashplugin-nonfree and it still was not 
found. Then remembered the sources.list entries always used to be main 
contrib non-free. With this change flashplugin-nonfree was found and 
installed.



Did you restart Iceweasel after the install?
just to be sure I rebooted the system and now it all works. Iceweasel 
and shutterfly.


In my experience, Firefox / Iceweasel / other-variants-of-the-same does
not recognize changes in the Flash plugin (and possibly in other
similarly interfaced plugins) until after the browser has been restarted.

Also, what does about:plugins say about the situation?


I've been experimenting with the Shumway extension, which is an attempt
to implement a Flash player in JavaScript, as part of Mozilla's effort
to kill the need for the binary Flash plugin. It's certainly not 100%
compatible yet (or anything near it, really), but it's surprisingly good
in a lot of cases.

If you care enough about trying to use only free software, and tend to
use only the sorts of Flash found on the major sites that rely on it, it
may be worth giving Shumway a try.




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Re: Adobe Flash Player in Jessie Iceweasel and Shutterfly?

[The Wanderer]

On 06/12/2015 at 02:58 PM, Thomas H. George wrote:

 Using Iceweasel I continually get a popup saying Flash Player needed
 to display some content. In fact, all the content seems to be
 displayed so the popup is only a minor annoyance.
 
 BUT then a friend send a link to photos at shutterfly which I can't
 view as Flash Player is required.
 
 I tried installing Flash Player by downloading the tar.gz version and
 following the installation instructions. Popup is still there.  Next
 I downloaded the .rpm version and used alien and dpkg to install it.
 Popup is still there and no photos.

First, if you need the Flash Player, I recommend installing it via the
'flashplugin-nonfree' package.

Did you restart Iceweasel after the install?

In my experience, Firefox / Iceweasel / other-variants-of-the-same does
not recognize changes in the Flash plugin (and possibly in other
similarly interfaced plugins) until after the browser has been restarted.

Also, what does about:plugins say about the situation?


I've been experimenting with the Shumway extension, which is an attempt
to implement a Flash player in JavaScript, as part of Mozilla's effort
to kill the need for the binary Flash plugin. It's certainly not 100%
compatible yet (or anything near it, really), but it's surprisingly good
in a lot of cases.

If you care enough about trying to use only free software, and tend to
use only the sorts of Flash found on the major sites that rely on it, it
may be worth giving Shumway a try.

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Adobe Flash Player in Jessie Iceweasel and Shutterfly?

[Thomas H. George]

Using Iceweasel I continually get a popup saying Flash Player needed to 
display some content. In fact, all the content seems to be displayed so 
the popup is only a minor annoyance.


BUT then a friend send a link to photos at shutterfly which I can't view 
as Flash Player is required.


I tried installing Flash Player by downloading the tar.gz version and 
following the installation instructions. Popup is still there.  Next I 
downloaded the .rpm version and used alien and dpkg to install it. Popup 
is still there and no photos.


These installations may have been at least partially successful, gnome 
now includes Adobe Flash Player in the list of applications. Maybe it 
always did and I never noticed before.


Any advice on getting this working?

Tom

Re: Adobe Flash Player in Jessie Iceweasel and Shutterfly?

[notoneofmy]

I know I was able to install it using the apt-get option.

apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

You may need to add the non-free to /etc/sources.list. I can't be sure.


On 15-06-12 8:58 PM, Thomas H. George wrote:
 Using Iceweasel I continually get a popup saying Flash Player needed
 to display some content. In fact, all the content seems to be
 displayed so the popup is only a minor annoyance.

 BUT then a friend send a link to photos at shutterfly which I can't
 view as Flash Player is required.

 I tried installing Flash Player by downloading the tar.gz version and
 following the installation instructions. Popup is still there.  Next I
 downloaded the .rpm version and used alien and dpkg to install it.
 Popup is still there and no photos.

 These installations may have been at least partially successful, gnome
 now includes Adobe Flash Player in the list of applications. Maybe it
 always did and I never noticed before.

 Any advice on getting this working?

 Tom 

Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:43:09 +0100, Altair Linux escribió:
 
 El 3 de febrero de 2015, 19:34, Ariel ariel...@gmail.com escribió:
 
  La version de Flash de Adobe empieza a fallar en algunos sitios web,
  avisando de problemas de seguridad.
 
  La unica opcion que me ha funcionado es esta:
  https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree
 
  me baje el archivo DEB y lo instale con dpkg, reinicie Firefox y
  desde entonces sin problemas (de momento).
 
 
 Ese paquete lo que hace es descargar el plugin flash desde la pagina de
 adobe, no hay ninguna diferencia(en tema funcionalidades del plugin)
 con descargarlo a mano.

 Alguna diferencia tiene que haber, porque yo siempre lo he descargado de
 la web de adobe y lo he instalado manualmente, y todo perfecto.
 
 Desde hace un par de dias, ya no puedo usar ese metodo. Firefox me
 reconocia el plugin, pero las webs que usan flash no funcionaban.

No hay ninguna diferencia ;-)

El problema es que Flash Player tiene más agujeros de seguridad que un 
queso Emmental y Adobe tiene que actualizarlo día sí y día también, por 
eso cuando Firefox detecta que estás con una versión inferior a la actual 
te bloquea el plugin (y a hace muy bien). Sólo tienes que actualizarlo 
descargándolo de su web.

Saludos,

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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[dayer]

El día 4 de febrero de 2015, 0:23, Esteban Monge
estebanmo...@riseup.net escribió:
 El 2015-02-03 12:43, Altair Linux escribió:

 Alguna diferencia tiene que haber, porque yo siempre lo he descargado de
 la
 web de adobe y lo he instalado manualmente, y todo perfecto.

 Desde hace un par de dias, ya no puedo usar ese metodo. Firefox me
 reconocia el plugin, pero las webs que usan flash no funcionaban.

 El 3 de febrero de 2015, 19:34, Ariel ariel...@gmail.com escribió:

  La version de Flash de Adobe empieza a fallar en algunos sitios web,
  avisando de problemas de seguridad.
 
  La unica opcion que me ha funcionado es esta:
  https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree
 
  me baje el archivo DEB y lo instale con dpkg, reinicie Firefox y desde
  entonces sin problemas (de momento).
 

 Ese paquete lo que hace es descargar el plugin flash desde la pagina
 de adobe, no hay ninguna diferencia(en tema funcionalidades del
 plugin) con descargarlo a mano.


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 Yo utilice una solución para aquellos que queremos usar iceweasel si porque
 si.

 Consiste en instalar Chrome y usar un wrapper de Pepper para
 Firefox/Iceweasel que se llama freshplayerplugin

 Deben compilar como se indica en la web:
 https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin


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Hola lista:

Para quienes les haya dejado de funcionar el de Adobe Flash por los
avisos de seguridad y estén usando el paquete flashplugin-nonfree, lo
que hay que hacer es ver si hay versión más moderna (de Flash, no del
paquete) y actualizar:

# update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.440
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.440

Si con el comando anterior las versiones instalada y disponible fueran
diferentes, habría que actualizarlo con:
# update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

Espero que sirva de ayuda a alguien.

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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:14:29 +0100, moby escribió:

 Hola a la lista.
   Desde hace tres meses , decidí  dejar de utilizar windows 7 y pasar a
 utilizar software libre.

Olé :-)

   Todo me ha ido bastante bien , con mi ordenador de sobremesa y mi
 laptop , y aunque a dia de hoy todo me funciona perfecto , tengo
 algunas dudas con mi firefox y el plugin de Adobe flasplayer
 
   Según tengo entendido , adobe no da más soporte para el pluging en
 firefox , solo en cromiun , pero no quiero instalar este navegador.

Puedes usar Firefox con FlashPlayer (descargado desde la web de Adobe es 
lo más sencillo). El plugin no recibe actualizaciones pero sí parches de 
seguridad, aunque con el reciente cambio de Youtube que ahora usa html5 
de manera predeterminada yo llevo ya unos días con flash player 
desactivado y cero problemas. Yupi :-)

   ¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he
 visto algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde
 tirarle mano , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.
   Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por
   anticipado.

La única opción que tienes en linux para usar de manera nativa la última 
versión de flash player es a través de ppapi (el api de chrome), es 
complicado pero se puede hacer. No hace mucho salió el tema en la lista, 
te paso el hilo:

plugin de flash
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/11/msg00516.html

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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[fernando sainz]

El día 3 de febrero de 2015, 17:14, moby mobyd...@gmx.com escribió:
  Hola a la lista.
  Desde hace tres meses , decidí  dejar de utilizar windows 7 y pasar a
 utilizar software libre.
  Todo me ha ido bastante bien , con mi ordenador de sobremesa y mi laptop
 , y aunque a dia de hoy
 todo me funciona perfecto , tengo algunas dudas con mi firefox y el plugin
 de Adobe flasplayer

  Según tengo entendido , adobe no da más soporte para el pluging en firefox
 , solo en cromiun , pero no quiero instalar este navegador.
  ¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he visto
 algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde tirarle mano
 , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.
  Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por anticipado.
  Un saludo.


Pues bienvenido al mundo de S.L.

Creo que Adobe ha dejado de sacar nuevas versiones de plugin para
Linux, pero si hace actualizaciones de seguridad de la última que
sacó.

La verdad es que flash tiene los días contados, youtube ya usa html5 y
poco a poco el resto de grandes harán lo mismo. (Creo que para que
firefox use html5 en youtube hay que hacerlo desde una cuenta de
usuario y habiendo activado su uso, (busca html5 youtube en google)).

Había por ahí un par de alternativas libres, Gnash que a mi nunca me
funcionó ni medianamente bien y otra que no recuerdo el nombre.



S2.


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Alternativa a flash player

[moby]

 Hola a la lista.
 Desde hace tres meses , decidí  dejar de utilizar windows 7 y pasar a 
utilizar software libre.
 Todo me ha ido bastante bien , con mi ordenador de sobremesa y mi 
laptop , y aunque a dia de hoy
todo me funciona perfecto , tengo algunas dudas con mi firefox y el 
plugin de Adobe flasplayer


 Según tengo entendido , adobe no da más soporte para el pluging en 
firefox , solo en cromiun , pero no quiero instalar este navegador.
 ¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he 
visto algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde 
tirarle mano , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.

 Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por anticipado.
 Un saludo.



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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Hernan Montero]

Hola Buenas Tardes 
Podrias Probar con pepperflashplugin-nonfree en los repositorios de
los nonfree.

Saludos



El 3 de febrero de 2015, 1:14 p. m., moby mobyd...@gmx.com escribió:
  Hola a la lista.
  Desde hace tres meses , decidí  dejar de utilizar windows 7 y pasar a
 utilizar software libre.
  Todo me ha ido bastante bien , con mi ordenador de sobremesa y mi laptop
 , y aunque a dia de hoy
 todo me funciona perfecto , tengo algunas dudas con mi firefox y el plugin
 de Adobe flasplayer

  Según tengo entendido , adobe no da más soporte para el pluging en firefox
 , solo en cromiun , pero no quiero instalar este navegador.
  ¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he visto
 algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde tirarle mano
 , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.
  Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por anticipado.
  Un saludo.



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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Ariel]

 La version de Flash de Adobe empieza a fallar en algunos sitios web,
 avisando de problemas de seguridad.

 La unica opcion que me ha funcionado es esta:
 https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree

 me baje el archivo DEB y lo instale con dpkg, reinicie Firefox y desde
 entonces sin problemas (de momento).


Ese paquete lo que hace es descargar el plugin flash desde la pagina
de adobe, no hay ninguna diferencia(en tema funcionalidades del
plugin) con descargarlo a mano.


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Alternativa a flash player

[moby]

El Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:14:29 +0100, moby escribió:


Hola a la lista.
   Desde hace tres meses , decidí  dejar de utilizar windows 7 y pasar a
utilizar software libre.


Olé


   Todo me ha ido bastante bien , con mi ordenador de sobremesa y mi
laptop , y aunque a dia de hoy todo me funciona perfecto , tengo
algunas dudas con mi firefox y el plugin de Adobe flasplayer

   Según tengo entendido , adobe no da más soporte para el pluging en
firefox , solo en cromiun , pero no quiero instalar este navegador.


Puedes usar Firefox con FlashPlayer (descargado desde la web de Adobe es
lo más sencillo). El plugin no recibe actualizaciones pero sí parches de
seguridad, aunque con el reciente cambio de Youtube que ahora usa html5
de manera predeterminada yo llevo ya unos días con flash player
desactivado y cero problemas. Yupi

 Es la opción que uso ahora , firefox más flas player


   ¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he
visto algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde
tirarle mano , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.
   Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por
   anticipado.


La única opción que tienes en linux para usar de manera nativa la última
versión de flash player es a través de ppapi (el api de chrome), es
complicado pero se puede hacer. No hace mucho salió el tema en la lista,
te paso el hilo:

plugin de flash
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/11/msg00516.html

Saludos,

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NPAPI en firefox , para utilizar el api de chrome o continuar como hasta 
ahora ,hasta que adobe deje de dar soporte de seguridad de flash , y 
esperando , que el html 5 este implementado en todos los sitios. Creo 
que me quedare con esta segunda opción. Gracias a todos los que me 
habéis contestado. :) Un saludo



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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:23:04 +0100, moby escribió:

(...)

¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he
 visto algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde
 tirarle mano , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.
Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por
anticipado.
 
 La única opción que tienes en linux para usar de manera nativa la última
 versión de flash player es a través de ppapi (el api de chrome), es
 complicado pero se puede hacer. No hace mucho salió el tema en la lista,
 te paso el hilo:
 
 plugin de flash
 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2014/11/msg00516.html
 
 
 -- Camaleón Entiendo por esto , que o bien seria usar el soporte de
 NPAPI en firefox , para utilizar el api de chrome 

Los navegadores que admiten (o admitían) NPAPI pueden usar el plugin de 
flash player para Chrome (aunque Chrome usa PPAPI). Si necesitas tener la 
última versión del plugin esa es la única opción en Linux, pero si sólo 
necesitas flash player con instalar la versión que hay disponible para 
linux es suficiente.

 o continuar como hasta ahora ,hasta que adobe deje de dar soporte de
 seguridad de flash , y esperando , que el html 5 este implementado en
 todos los sitios. Creo que me quedare con esta segunda opción. Gracias
 a todos los que me habéis contestado. :) Un saludo

Ya le va quedando poco a flash player... el día que muera 
definitivamente será fiesta ya no nacional sino mundial :-)

Saludos,

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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Altair Linux]

La version de Flash de Adobe empieza a fallar en algunos sitios web,
avisando de problemas de seguridad.

La unica opcion que me ha funcionado es esta:
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree

me baje el archivo DEB y lo instale con dpkg, reinicie Firefox y desde
entonces sin problemas (de momento).



El 3 de febrero de 2015, 17:28, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 El día 3 de febrero de 2015, 17:14, moby mobyd...@gmx.com escribió:
   Hola a la lista.
   Desde hace tres meses , decidí  dejar de utilizar windows 7 y pasar a
  utilizar software libre.
   Todo me ha ido bastante bien , con mi ordenador de sobremesa y mi
 laptop
  , y aunque a dia de hoy
  todo me funciona perfecto , tengo algunas dudas con mi firefox y el
 plugin
  de Adobe flasplayer
 
   Según tengo entendido , adobe no da más soporte para el pluging en
 firefox
  , solo en cromiun , pero no quiero instalar este navegador.
   ¿ Existe alguna alternativa en Firefox? navegando por internet he visto
  algo de Shumway, creado por Mozilla , aunque no se por donde tirarle
 mano
  , mis conocimientos informaticos son algo escasos.
   Si alguien me puede orientar un poco con esto , gracias por anticipado.
   Un saludo.
 

 Pues bienvenido al mundo de S.L.

 Creo que Adobe ha dejado de sacar nuevas versiones de plugin para
 Linux, pero si hace actualizaciones de seguridad de la última que
 sacó.

 La verdad es que flash tiene los días contados, youtube ya usa html5 y
 poco a poco el resto de grandes harán lo mismo. (Creo que para que
 firefox use html5 en youtube hay que hacerlo desde una cuenta de
 usuario y habiendo activado su uso, (busca html5 youtube en google)).

 Había por ahí un par de alternativas libres, Gnash que a mi nunca me
 funcionó ni medianamente bien y otra que no recuerdo el nombre.



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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Altair Linux]

Alguna diferencia tiene que haber, porque yo siempre lo he descargado de la
web de adobe y lo he instalado manualmente, y todo perfecto.

Desde hace un par de dias, ya no puedo usar ese metodo. Firefox me
reconocia el plugin, pero las webs que usan flash no funcionaban.

El 3 de febrero de 2015, 19:34, Ariel ariel...@gmail.com escribió:

  La version de Flash de Adobe empieza a fallar en algunos sitios web,
  avisando de problemas de seguridad.
 
  La unica opcion que me ha funcionado es esta:
  https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree
 
  me baje el archivo DEB y lo instale con dpkg, reinicie Firefox y desde
  entonces sin problemas (de momento).
 

 Ese paquete lo que hace es descargar el plugin flash desde la pagina
 de adobe, no hay ninguna diferencia(en tema funcionalidades del
 plugin) con descargarlo a mano.


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Re: Alternativa a flash player

[Esteban Monge]

El 2015-02-03 12:43, Altair Linux escribió:
Alguna diferencia tiene que haber, porque yo siempre lo he descargado 
de la

web de adobe y lo he instalado manualmente, y todo perfecto.

Desde hace un par de dias, ya no puedo usar ese metodo. Firefox me
reconocia el plugin, pero las webs que usan flash no funcionaban.

El 3 de febrero de 2015, 19:34, Ariel ariel...@gmail.com escribió:


 La version de Flash de Adobe empieza a fallar en algunos sitios web,
 avisando de problemas de seguridad.

 La unica opcion que me ha funcionado es esta:
 https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/flashplugin-nonfree

 me baje el archivo DEB y lo instale con dpkg, reinicie Firefox y desde
 entonces sin problemas (de momento).


Ese paquete lo que hace es descargar el plugin flash desde la pagina
de adobe, no hay ninguna diferencia(en tema funcionalidades del
plugin) con descargarlo a mano.


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Yo utilice una solución para aquellos que queremos usar iceweasel si 
porque si.


Consiste en instalar Chrome y usar un wrapper de Pepper para 
Firefox/Iceweasel que se llama freshplayerplugin


Deben compilar como se indica en la web:
https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin


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