Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-07-02 Thread Richmond
Siard  writes:

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 22:37 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>> On 6/22/21 9:23 AM, Siard wrote:
>> > In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
>> > tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom'
>> > and change every color in the color palette to black.
>> >
>> > Here is a screenshot:
>> > https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png
>> 
>> Why select 'Custom'?
>> 
>> Richard needs black on white, so he should select 'Black on white'.
>> It works for me.  I have been using 'Custom', Yellow on Black, like
>> my first monitor many years ago.  But selecting 'Black on white'
>> gives exactly that.
>
> Yes, but it did not work for Richard, and as 'Custom' worked for me,
> I came with this solution.
> Later, it turned out that it was caused by a glitch in MATE Terminal
> 1.16.3, used in Debian 9.  Later versions worked fine.
> So 'Black on white' is indeed the most obvious way.

Strangely, I am using MATE terminal 1.20 and now it is not working. I
have a profile called Black and White. I change the colour profile
preferences to the black and white scheme, but when I launch emacs -nw,
it displays blue underlined text in places. And when I go back and look
at the colour preferences in MATE it has gone back to custom.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-07-02 Thread Siard
On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 22:37 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On 6/22/21 9:23 AM, Siard wrote:
> > In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
> > tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom'
> > and change every color in the color palette to black.
> >
> > Here is a screenshot:
> > https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png
> 
> Why select 'Custom'?
> 
> Richard needs black on white, so he should select 'Black on white'.
> It works for me.  I have been using 'Custom', Yellow on Black, like
> my first monitor many years ago.  But selecting 'Black on white'
> gives exactly that.

Yes, but it did not work for Richard, and as 'Custom' worked for me,
I came with this solution.
Later, it turned out that it was caused by a glitch in MATE Terminal
1.16.3, used in Debian 9.  Later versions worked fine.
So 'Black on white' is indeed the most obvious way.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-07-01 Thread Marc Shapiro



On 6/22/21 9:23 AM, Siard wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:32:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.

This has already been addressed before: you must change the color scheme
in the setting for MATE Terminal, to have it use black/dark gray/etc. as
needed for everything related to text.

The exact steps are different for each terminal emulator and I don't
have MATE Terminal installed here.

Well, I have. In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom' and
change every color in the color palette to black.

Here is a screenshot:
https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png


Why select 'Custom'?

Richard needs black on white, so he should select 'Black on white'.  It 
works for me.  I have been using 'Custom', Yellow on Black, like my 
first monitor many years ago.  But selecting 'Black on white' gives 
exactly that.


Marc



RESOLVED: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-24 Thread Richard Owlett

On 06/22/2021 08:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.



There is a bug in MATE Terminal 1.16.3 [used in Debian 9] which prevents 
setting color preferences.


It is apparently resolve in MATE Terminal 1.20.2 [used in Debian 10].
I will not pursue further.





At least a partial solution - was [Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal]

2021-06-23 Thread Richard Owlett

On 06/23/2021 04:32 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/22/2021 11:23 AM, Siard wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:32:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.


This has already been addressed before: you must change the color scheme
in the setting for MATE Terminal, to have it use black/dark gray/etc. as
needed for everything related to text.

The exact steps are different for each terminal emulator and I don't
have MATE Terminal installed here.


Well, I have. In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom' and
change every color in the color palette to black.

Here is a screenshot:
https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png



I tried that yesterday and it didn't work.
I tried it again this morning, after a good night's sleep.
It still didn't work. BUT it finally registered that the settings I 
changed were *NOT* being kept as in your screenshot.


I am running Debian 9.13 with MATE Terminal 1.16.3
Are you using the same?
Suggestions?
Thank you.



I have a secondary machine with Debian 10.7 which uses
MATE Terminal 1.20.2. That does save changes made using
Edit->Profile Preferences. I don't know yet if that solves all my 
problems with the local version of cht.sh discussed elsewhere.







Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-23 Thread Siard
Richard Owlett:
> Siard:
> > In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
> > tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom'
> > and change every color in the color palette to black.
> > 
> > Here is a screenshot:
> > https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png
>
> I tried that yesterday and it didn't work.
> I tried it again this morning, after a good night's sleep.
> It still didn't work. BUT it finally registered that the settings I 
> changed were *NOT* being kept as in your screenshot.
> 
> I am running Debian 9.13 with MATE Terminal 1.16.3
> Are you using the same?
> Suggestions?
> Thank you.

I am running Debian 11.0 with MATE Terminal 1.24.1.
This morning, the colors were still being kept and it still worked.
Alas, I do not know anything about older versions.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-23 Thread Richard Owlett

On 06/22/2021 11:23 AM, Siard wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:32:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.


This has already been addressed before: you must change the color scheme
in the setting for MATE Terminal, to have it use black/dark gray/etc. as
needed for everything related to text.

The exact steps are different for each terminal emulator and I don't
have MATE Terminal installed here.


Well, I have. In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom' and
change every color in the color palette to black.

Here is a screenshot:
https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png



I tried that yesterday and it didn't work.
I tried it again this morning, after a good night's sleep.
It still didn't work. BUT it finally registered that the settings I 
changed were *NOT* being kept as in your screenshot.


I am running Debian 9.13 with MATE Terminal 1.16.3
Are you using the same?
Suggestions?
Thank you.






Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Wed 23 Jun 2021 at 03:13:00 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote:
> On 23/6/21 2:39 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 02:27:04AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > > On 23/6/21 1:42 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > There's nothing in .bashrc which controls the terminal's interpretation
> > > > of color escape sequences.  Or in bash, anywhere.
> > 
> > > Excerpt from .bashrc file:
> > > 
> > > "
> > > 
> > > # set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
> > > # case "$TERM" in
> > > #xterm-color|*-256color) color_prompt=yes;;
> > > # esac
> > > 
> > > # uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; 
> > > turned
> > > # off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
> > > # should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
> > > #force_color_prompt=yes
> > 
> > All of that code is just for setting the shell's prompt.  It has nothing
> > to do with how the terminal interprets color codes.
> > 
> 
> Funnily enough, given what you contend, before I commented out the
> colouring in stuff, when running ls -lh, directory names were
> displayed in blue text, and, after I commented out the colouring in
> stuff, running ls -lh, the output was all displayed in black text.

Your "colouring in stuff" included dircolors.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 03:13:00AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> Funnily enough, given what you contend, before I commented out the colouring
> in stuff, when running ls -lh, directory names were displayed in blue text,
> and, after I commented out the colouring in stuff, running ls -lh, the
> output was all displayed in black text.

OK, I made a slightly oversimplified statement.

MOST of the code in that excerpt goes into setting the shell's prompt.
There are also some aliases at the end, one of those being an alias
for ls, setting it up to use --color=auto.

So, the code that you posted affects two things:

1) Bash's shell prompt, which may or may not include color escape
   sequences.

2) Various aliases that change the default behavior of some commands
   (by adding options to what you type), including ls, which may cause
   ls to emit color escape sequences.

In all cases, the behavior of the terminal in response to these color
escape sequences is defined by the terminal itself, and may or may not
be user-configurable.

Nothing in .bashrc affects the terminal's behavior.  Only the terminal's
configuration affects that.

.bashrc controls the behavior of bash, not of the terminal.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 22 Jun 2021 at 08:35:42 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/22/2021 08:24 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > I have vision problems.
> > > I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> > > The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> > > The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> > > Help please.
> > 
> > What's the program? For some Xterms, the default is to colorize
> 
> It's the local version of cht.sht being discussed elsewhere on this list.
> 
> The structure of the Edit->Profile Preferences suggests I can override
> what ever dumb choices the programmer made.
> 
> I've encountered this with other programs.
> I must have black on white *ONLY* for ALL programs if the output is to
> be legible.

It's probable that all your options will involve some degree of
compromise. AIUI, TERM=xterm-mono foo involves cooperation from the
program foo, which might need the author to be aware of what an xterm
is. For example, mutt loses all its colours with that, but not my
script that starts it up.

You could try running   xterm -cm   which appears to eliminate colours
entirely, but unfortunately you also lose inverse-video, which might
require you to do some tinkering. For example, mutt would require
arrow_cursor setting for navigation.

Even turning down the colour on a monitor suffers where text and
background differ in hue but not luminance. So I don't think you'll
find a silver bullet that fixes every case.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Bret Busby

On 23/6/21 2:39 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 02:27:04AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

On 23/6/21 1:42 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:

There's nothing in .bashrc which controls the terminal's interpretation
of color escape sequences.  Or in bash, anywhere.



Excerpt from .bashrc file:

"

# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
# case "$TERM" in
#xterm-color|*-256color) color_prompt=yes;;
# esac

# uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
# off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
# should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
#force_color_prompt=yes


All of that code is just for setting the shell's prompt.  It has nothing
to do with how the terminal interprets color codes.



Funnily enough, given what you contend, before I commented out the 
colouring in stuff, when running ls -lh, directory names were displayed 
in blue text, and, after I commented out the colouring in stuff, running 
ls -lh, the output was all displayed in black text.


--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Richmond
Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 6/22/21 9:17 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I have vision problems.
>>> I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
>>> The program I'm running gives out colored text.
>>> The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
>>> Help please.
>>>
>>>
>> On the menu bar of mate-terminal, select Edit -> Profile Preferences ->
>> Colours
>>
>> Uncheck the box that says 'Use colours from system theme'. Select Built
>> In Scheme Black on White from the drop down list.
>
> The controls are there, but not _all_ of the Text is black.
>
> I tested in Bullseye and Buster.
>
> Richard Owlett perhaps you should file a bug report
>
Ok but I don't think it is a bug. The preferences dialogue has a note
saying that all the colours the custom colour palette are available to
terminal applications. So I think amending the colour palette as Siard
says might do it.

<20210622182358.77011dfdebeacdacee2c4...@mailbox.org>


>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 02:27:04AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 23/6/21 1:42 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > There's nothing in .bashrc which controls the terminal's interpretation
> > of color escape sequences.  Or in bash, anywhere.

> Excerpt from .bashrc file:
> 
> "
> 
> # set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
> # case "$TERM" in
> #xterm-color|*-256color) color_prompt=yes;;
> # esac
> 
> # uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
> # off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
> # should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
> #force_color_prompt=yes

All of that code is just for setting the shell's prompt.  It has nothing
to do with how the terminal interprets color codes.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Bret Busby

On 23/6/21 1:42 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 12:27:17AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:

And, that also applies, if provision for coloured text is commented out, in
the .bashrc file.


There's nothing in .bashrc which controls the terminal's interpretation
of color escape sequences.  Or in bash, anywhere.

It's entirely between the terminal, and the application which generates
the color sequences.  The shell is not involved.

The closest the shell comes to being involved is if you try to trick the
application into thinking it's on a different kind of terminal, by
changing the TERM variable.  This rarely works out well, except in
very specific circumstances -- the most notable being "I'm ssh-ing to
a system that doesn't know about my terminal type".

As I've already tested today, it sure as hell doesn't work for apt(8).



Excerpt from .bashrc file:

"

# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
# case "$TERM" in
#xterm-color|*-256color) color_prompt=yes;;
# esac

# uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
# off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
# should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
#force_color_prompt=yes

# if [ -n "$force_color_prompt" ]; then
#if [ -x /usr/bin/tput ] && tput setaf 1 >&/dev/null; then
#   # We have color support; assume it's compliant with Ecma-48
#   # (ISO/IEC-6429). (Lack of such support is extremely rare, and such
#   # a case would tend to support setf rather than setaf.)
#   color_prompt=yes
 #   else
 # next line commented out by me to prevent colouring of prompt
 #  color_prompt=
#fi
# fi

# if [ "$color_prompt" = yes ]; then
  #  PS1='[\D{} \t] 
${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ 
'

#   PS1="\d \t \u@\h:\w$"
# else
   PS1='[\D{} \t] ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)} `date `\u@\h:\w\$ '
# PS1="\d \t \u@\h:\w$"
# fi
# unset color_prompt force_color_prompt

# If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir
case "$TERM" in
xterm*|rxvt*)
#PS1="[\D{} \t] \[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: 
`date `\w\a\]$PS1"

PS1="\d \t \u@\h:\w$"
;;
*)
;;
esac

# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
# if [ -x /usr/bin/dircolors ]; then
# test -r ~/.dircolors && eval "$(dircolors -b ~/.dircolors)" || 
eval "$(dircolors -b)"

# alias ls='ls --color=auto'
# #alias dir='dir --color=auto'
#alias vdir='vdir --color=auto'

#alias grep='grep --color=auto'
 #   alias fgrep='fgrep --color=auto'
#alias egrep='egrep --color=auto'
# fi

# colored GCC warnings and errors
#export 
GCC_COLORS='error=01;31:warning=01;35:note=01;36:caret=01;32:locus=01:quote=01'


# some more ls aliases
# alias ll='ls -alF'
# alias la='ls -A'
# alias l='ls -CF'
"

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 12:27:17AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> And, that also applies, if provision for coloured text is commented out, in
> the .bashrc file.

There's nothing in .bashrc which controls the terminal's interpretation
of color escape sequences.  Or in bash, anywhere.

It's entirely between the terminal, and the application which generates
the color sequences.  The shell is not involved.

The closest the shell comes to being involved is if you try to trick the
application into thinking it's on a different kind of terminal, by
changing the TERM variable.  This rarely works out well, except in
very specific circumstances -- the most notable being "I'm ssh-ing to
a system that doesn't know about my terminal type".

As I've already tested today, it sure as hell doesn't work for apt(8).



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Bret Busby

On 23/6/21 12:17 am, Richmond wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.



On the menu bar of mate-terminal, select Edit -> Profile Preferences ->
Colours

Uncheck the box that says 'Use colours from system theme'. Select Built
In Scheme Black on White from the drop down list.




Except, that does not stop colours from being displayed; for example, 
warnings are displayed in yellow text (on white background).


And, that also applies, if provision for coloured text is commented out, 
in the .bashrc file.


--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Bret Busby

On 22/6/21 11:34 pm, David Wright wrote:




Wouldn't it be nice if there were a debian-mate list.

Oh, look, there it is!

https://lists.debian.org/debian-mate/

Cheers,
David.



In viewing the published list archive for that list, all of the messages 
this year, appear to be announce messages from developers, with no 
support component for users.


Just an observation.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Peter Ehlert



On 6/22/21 9:17 AM, Richmond wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.



On the menu bar of mate-terminal, select Edit -> Profile Preferences ->
Colours

Uncheck the box that says 'Use colours from system theme'. Select Built
In Scheme Black on White from the drop down list.


The controls are there, but not _all_ of the Text is black.

I tested in Bullseye and Buster.

Richard Owlett perhaps you should file a bug report









Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Siard
On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:32:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I have vision problems.
> > I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> > The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> > The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> > Help please.
> 
> This has already been addressed before: you must change the color scheme 
> in the setting for MATE Terminal, to have it use black/dark gray/etc. as 
> needed for everything related to text.
> 
> The exact steps are different for each terminal emulator and I don't 
> have MATE Terminal installed here.

Well, I have. In the MATE Terminal settings (Edit > Profile Preferences),
tab 'Colors', under 'Palette', set 'Built-in schemes' to 'Custom' and
change every color in the color palette to black.

Here is a screenshot:
https://i.postimg.cc/2yv17y3Y/mateterminalcolors.png



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Richmond
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have vision problems.
> I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> Help please.
>
>
On the menu bar of mate-terminal, select Edit -> Profile Preferences ->
Colours

Uncheck the box that says 'Use colours from system theme'. Select Built
In Scheme Black on White from the drop down list.




Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 22 Jun 2021 at 17:32:55 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I have vision problems.
> > I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> > The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> > The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> > Help please.
> 
> This has already been addressed before: you must change the color scheme 
> in the setting for MATE Terminal, to have it use black/dark gray/etc. as 
> needed for everything related to text.

At the end of May, IIRC

> The exact steps are different for each terminal emulator and I don't 
> have MATE Terminal installed here.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were a debian-mate list.

Oh, look, there it is!

https://lists.debian.org/debian-mate/

Cheers,
David.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread mick crane

On 2021-06-22 15:32, mick crane wrote:

On 2021-06-22 14:55, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/22/2021 08:47 AM, mick crane wrote:

On 2021-06-22 14:14, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.


Has the monitor got any controls on it ?
mick


Monitor (Gateway FPD1730) has only positioning controls.
But in any case the MATE Terminal option menus imply I should be able
to have what I need.

If it's just a terminal that's probably in ~/.bashrc or something.
If it's vi you can fiddle with .vimrc. I recently changed the colour
scheme but I'm forgetting where exactly because my memory is not very
good once it's done it's task.
mick
PS. If you can't get a monitor to behave like a monochrome one maybe you 
can persuade X that you have one.

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Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread IL Ka
One more idea: install xterm (``apt install xterm``) and run it with ``-cm``

$ xterm -cm

that means "do not recognize color esc. sequences"

Everything is b there


Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 22 iun 21, 08:14:08, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have vision problems.
> I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> Help please.

This has already been addressed before: you must change the color scheme 
in the setting for MATE Terminal, to have it use black/dark gray/etc. as 
needed for everything related to text.

The exact steps are different for each terminal emulator and I don't 
have MATE Terminal installed here.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread mick crane

On 2021-06-22 14:55, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/22/2021 08:47 AM, mick crane wrote:

On 2021-06-22 14:14, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.


Has the monitor got any controls on it ?
mick


Monitor (Gateway FPD1730) has only positioning controls.
But in any case the MATE Terminal option menus imply I should be able
to have what I need.

If it's just a terminal that's probably in ~/.bashrc or something.
If it's vi you can fiddle with .vimrc. I recently changed the colour 
scheme but I'm forgetting where exactly because my memory is not very 
good once it's done it's task.

mick
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Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Curt
On 2021-06-22, Greg Wooledge  wrote:
>
> Of course, I have no idea what Richard's actual program is, so here's
> a half-hearted apology for possibly highjacking a thread.  (Note: I'm
> in rxvt-unicode, not MATE terminal.)  (Sorry.)
>

It's cht.sh (in local mode), and he's going about things bass-ackwards.

He wants something like

 cht.sh/ls\?T

or

 cht.sh/ls\?style=bw





Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread IL Ka
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>
> unicorn:~$ sudo TERM=xterm-mono apt update
>
> Nope.  Not that one either.


Some apps ignore the number of colors from the terminfo.
Their authors believe there are no colorless monitors.

Vim and bash works, however
$ TERM=xterm-mono vim
$ TERM=xterm-mono bash (no color prompt)


Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett

On 06/22/2021 08:47 AM, mick crane wrote:

On 2021-06-22 14:14, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.


Has the monitor got any controls on it ?
mick


Monitor (Gateway FPD1730) has only positioning controls.
But in any case the MATE Terminal option menus imply I should be able to 
have what I need.







Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread mick crane

On 2021-06-22 14:14, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.


Has the monitor got any controls on it ?
mick
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Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 04:21:35PM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> try
> $ TERM=xterm-mono [your_program]

/me tries

unicorn:~$ TERM=xterm-mono sudo apt update

Nope.  No luck there.

unicorn:~$ sudo TERM=xterm-mono apt update

Nope.  Not that one either.

If Debian's APT team is trying their very, very hardest to make me
never, ever want to use apt(8), they're doing an impressively good job.

Of course, I have no idea what Richard's actual program is, so here's
a half-hearted apology for possibly highjacking a thread.  (Note: I'm
in rxvt-unicode, not MATE terminal.)  (Sorry.)



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett

On 06/22/2021 08:24 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.




Richard,

What's the program? For some Xterms, the default is to colorize


It's the local version of cht.sht being discussed elsewhere on this list.

The structure of the Edit->Profile Preferences suggests I can override 
what ever dumb choices the programmer made.


I've encountered this with other programs.
I must have black on white *ONLY* for ALL programs if the output is to 
be legible.





All best,

Andy C.








Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett

On 06/22/2021 08:21 AM, IL Ka wrote:

try
$ TERM=xterm-mono [your_program]


didn't work :{





On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:14 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:


I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.










Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 08:14:08AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have vision problems.
> I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> Help please.
> 
> 

Richard,

What's the program? For some Xterms, the default is to colorize

All best,

Andy C.



Re: Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread IL Ka
try
$ TERM=xterm-mono [your_program]


On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:14 PM Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I have vision problems.
> I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
> The program I'm running gives out colored text.
> The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
> Help please.
>
>
>


Font color selection in MATE terminal

2021-06-22 Thread Richard Owlett

I have vision problems.
I *MUST* have black on white text in all cases.
The program I'm running gives out colored text.
The MATE Help screen is NOT helpful.
Help please.