Re: non-free internet radio?

2005-09-05 Thread David E. Fox
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:05:58 -0700
Colin Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Anyways... My question relates to internet radio feeds. Some of the stations I
 like to listen to over the internet actually offer feeds in formats that 
 aren't
 a problem for linux (mp3, ogg) but most stations give you a choice between

If you set things up (for instance use mplayer plugin) then mplayer (or
xine, kaffeine, amarok etc.) can play the content without too much
trouble, although, I'll admit this has been a sticky point in the past.
Radio stations sometimes make it difficult to find the actual media
resource locator for their feeds, and as such you have to slog through
a few pages to get to the actual url you need to put on the command
line. 

Sometimes, getting the .pls or what have you file will give you an
embedded media resource locator file that you can simply hand off to
one of those players and have it play the content for you. I've
employed this technique (for instance : $ mplayer `cat radio-feed` )
where the radio-feed file is a file that looks like:

rtsp://128.255.60.46:554/encoder/ksuilive.rm?cloakport=8080,554,7070
--stop--
pnm://128.255.60.46:7070/encoder/ksuilive.rm?cloakport=8080,554,7070

(one radio station profile chosen at random, though this one seems to
be setup for realmedia aka realplayer).

Once you know the real address for the station feed, it's not too much
of a chore to get one of the free (i.e., oss) players to play the
contents, although you may need codecs and other libraries to do it.
Over here, I have a number of kde icons (shortcuts) with names of
radio stations - one click and up pops a konsole or xterm with mplayer
(or ogg123) playing the feed content. That works fairly well, but it
would be nicer if the radio station content were more integrated into
the players, which is one thing about Windows Media Player I actually
like. 

But the real trick is to get the browser to open one of a number of
alternatives (mplayer, xine, etc.) when encountering a click here sign
saying listen live or equivalent. Again, mplayer plugin works quite
well. 


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non-free internet radio?

2005-09-04 Thread Colin Andrews
NooB Disclaimer:
Though I've used unix/linux for many years, it's mostly been on servers or just
bash/csh command line environments. I've just installed Sarge on a brand new
system and I'm really liking it. I'm still a bit of a NooB when it comes to
desktop related features (configuring X, watching DVDs...)

Anyways... My question relates to internet radio feeds. Some of the stations I
like to listen to over the internet actually offer feeds in formats that aren't
a problem for linux (mp3, ogg) but most stations give you a choice between
Windows Media Player and Real Player. I know that Real has a linux version of
their player, but I'd rather not install it. Real player for windows always
seems like total spyware, and it's totaly anoying with all ads  popups it puts
up even if it isn't spyware.

Is there a reasonable free/open source solution out there that will let me
listen either of these stream types?


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Re: non-free internet radio?

2005-09-04 Thread Anders Breindahl
On Sunday 04 September 2005 20:05, Colin Andrews wrote:
 NooB Disclaimer:
 Though I've used unix/linux for many years, it's mostly been on servers or
 just bash/csh command line environments. I've just installed Sarge on a
 brand new system and I'm really liking it. I'm still a bit of a NooB when
 it comes to desktop related features (configuring X, watching DVDs...)

 Anyways... My question relates to internet radio feeds. Some of the
 stations I like to listen to over the internet actually offer feeds in
 formats that aren't a problem for linux (mp3, ogg) but most stations give
 you a choice between Windows Media Player and Real Player. I know that Real
 has a linux version of their player, but I'd rather not install it. Real
 player for windows always seems like total spyware, and it's totaly anoying
 with all ads  popups it puts up even if it isn't spyware.

 Is there a reasonable free/open source solution out there that will let me
 listen either of these stream types?

Mplayer [0] eats most stuff. In case you're very unlucky, you will be required 
to fetch the non-free codecs. Instructions to install both (which are not 
DFSG-free) follow:

Add Christian Marillats repository to your sources.list. Instructions on [1].
`aptitude update; aptitude install mplayer-586` (IIRC).

Regards, Anders Breindahl.

[0] http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html


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Re: non-free internet radio?

2005-09-04 Thread Colin Andrews

Quoting Anders Breindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Sunday 04 September 2005 20:35, Anders Breindahl wrote:

Mplayer [0] eats most stuff. In case you're very unlucky, you will be
required to fetch the non-free codecs. Instructions to install both (which
are not DFSG-free) follow:

Add Christian Marillats repository to your sources.list. Instructions on
[1]. `aptitude update; aptitude install mplayer-586` (IIRC).

Regards, Anders Breindahl.

[0] http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html



[1] http://hpisi.nerim.net/

... Didn't know that is was that late.
Regards, Anders Breindahl.




Perfect - Just what I was looking for. I think I've already got Christian
Marillats repository in my sources.list :)

Thanks


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Re: non-free internet radio?

2005-09-04 Thread Dave Thayer
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 11:05:58AM -0700, Colin Andrews wrote:

 [...] I know that Real has a linux version of
 their player, but I'd rather not install it. Real player for windows always
 seems like total spyware, and it's totaly anoying with all ads  popups it 
 puts
 up even if it isn't spyware.

The linux version of realplayer is actually pretty clean and free of the
junk that they put in the windows version. In fact, I've set it up as my
default mozilla mp3 handler because it loads so much faster than xmms.

Christian Marillat has a debianized version in his repository so you can
give it a shot without too much hassle.

dt

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RE: free Internet provider for Linux? WORLDSHARE WORKS FINE

2000-09-15 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E

Yes they do, as I stated in a previous posting.
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 Try: http://www.worldshare.net http://www.worldshare.net


As I understand it, they offer free access only for MS Windows, not
for Linux.

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Re: free Internet access

2000-06-30 Thread Michalowski Thierry
Well,
did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live?
Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that
probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...


Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

  Hello,

 I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
 use the free internet access as long as we set our home to there
 main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
 I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.

 Thank you
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RE: free Internet access

2000-06-30 Thread Jonathan Markevich
However, we were discussing freewwweb before.  I'm using it now... for 
temporary use, it's fine, other than that it's trash.  I haven't been able to 
send out mail using SMTP for about two months now.

NetZero has a Linux client now, though.  I'm tempted to try it.

Oh, and you might be interested in Freexdsl -- I don't know if it's Wingdings 
based or not...

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Well,
did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live?
Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that
probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...


Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

  Hello,

 I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
 use the free internet access as long as we set our home to there
 main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
 I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.

 Thank you

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Re: free Internet access

2000-06-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Michalowski Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Well,
 did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live?
 Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
 So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that
 probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...

Well here's one clue:

  M.J. Inabnit, KE6SLS e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p

Eureka! The person is probably from Northern California and doesn't know
the country's dialling code, or hasn't realised that these posts travel
to readers in other countries.

What the h/m and p mean, I have no idea.

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Re: free Internet access

2000-06-30 Thread Pollywog

On 30-Jun-2000 11:32:35 David Wright wrote:
 Quoting Michalowski Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Well,
 did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of
 where you live?
 Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
 So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in
 Switzerland and that
 probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...
 
 Well here's one clue:
 
  M.J. Inabnit, KE6SLS e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p
 
 Eureka! The person is probably from Northern California and doesn't
 know
 the country's dialling code, or hasn't realised that these posts
 travel
 to readers in other countries.

This phone number is from Eureka, California.  I live in the same
area and I know there is one free provider with an access number in
Blue Lake, a local call for Eureka.  The problem is that they do not
yet offer Linux versions of their software.  The one service that
does offer Linux software has no access number in this area.

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free Internet access

2000-06-29 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

 Hello,

I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
use the free internet access as long as we set our home to there 
main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.

Thank you
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Re: free Internet access

2000-06-29 Thread Kent West
Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
 I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
 use the free internet access as long as we set our home to there
 main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
 I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.

The one I know of is www.freewwweb.com. I use it as my backup, and it
has been pretty reliable.



Re: Free Internet... ?

2000-03-20 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
The most recommended ISP was
www.freeweb.com as shown below

FreeWWWeb (http://www.freewwweb.com) claims you need Windows or MacOS,
but they use a straightforward PPP connection.  I set my account up with
about ten minutes of perusing the kppp scripting literature.  The only
caveat is freewwweb requires you enter @freewwweb.com after the user
name which is non-intuitive and had me banging my head up against the
wall for a while.

I get decent connection speeds here in Cincy, Ohio, USA.

The only other complaint I have about freewwweb is that they changed the
name of their mail server without notifying anyone, which was an
inconvenience for a couple of days until I read their updated tech spec
page.

regards,

Percival wrote:

 I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about a 
 free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
 putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as 
 their start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.

 I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost the 
 bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail me.

 Thanks,

 -Percival

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Re: Free Internet... ?

2000-03-20 Thread Percival

I thought that was the service, but they seem to want me to download their 
software - and only give me choices for Windows 98/95 and Mac.  I also remember 
seeing a different webpage for the service (not blue and white), which talked 
specifically about linux.

Anyway, I didn't want to go on with the download (14MB), but I will if it is 
necessary to get the username and password and DNS info and all that.  What 
should I do?

-Percival


On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 05:48:54PM -0500, Chris Gray wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:50:38PM -0800, Percival wrote:
  
  I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about 
  a free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
  putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as 
  their start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.
  
  I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost 
  the bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail 
  me.
 
 The service is at http://www.freewwweb.com.  It's good, but where I
 am they drop packets headed for port 25 on any other machine than
 their own.  This makes sending mail kind of a pain in the butt if you
 don't have a backup ISP.  Maybe it's different in other places.
 
 HTH,
 Chris Gray
 
  
  Thanks,
  
  -Percival
  
  
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Re: Free Internet... ?

2000-03-20 Thread addiction
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:50:38PM -0800, Percival wrote:
 
 I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about a 
 free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
 putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as 
 their start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.
 
 I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost the 
 bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail me.
--snip--

http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW
works for me

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Re: Free Internet... ? Why 14 mb?

2000-03-20 Thread Percival

Actually, I think it is probably a customized version of Internet Explorer.  I 
don't know about the Mac, probably IE for that as well.  Many ISPs offer 
versions of IE with their logos in place of the spinning 'e' and other 
customizations.  Since some of them offer this, everyone else feels as though 
they have to do it as well.

Update:

The gateway through http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW works very 
well - and you don't download anything (just the setup.cgi).  It took me a few 
tries to register, but everything seemed to go through just fine.

Thanks all!

-Percival

On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 01:05:24PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
 It seems to me that those companies that ask you to download 14 mb or so of 
 software are intending to see inside your computer, otherwise, why would they 
 ask you to do so, if it is enough to just set the connection parametrs? Any 
 ideas?
 
 Percival wrote:
 
  I thought that was the service, but they seem to want me to download their 
  software - and only give me choices for Windows 98/95 and Mac.  I also 
  remember seeing a different webpage for the service (not blue and white), 
  which talked specifically about linux.
 
  Anyway, I didn't want to go on with the download (14MB), but I will if it 
  is necessary to get the username and password and DNS info and all that.  
  What should I do?
 
  -Percival
 
  On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 05:48:54PM -0500, Chris Gray wrote:
   On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:50:38PM -0800, Percival wrote:
   
I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking 
about a free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet 
access by putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to 
load it as their start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime 
factor.
   
I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also 
lost the bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please 
e-mail me.
  
   The service is at http://www.freewwweb.com.  It's good, but where I
   am they drop packets headed for port 25 on any other machine than
   their own.  This makes sending mail kind of a pain in the butt if you
   don't have a backup ISP.  Maybe it's different in other places.
  
   HTH,
   Chris Gray
  
   
Thanks,
   
-Percival
   
   
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Free Internet... ?

2000-03-19 Thread Percival

I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about a 
free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as their 
start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.

I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost the 
bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail me.

Thanks,

-Percival


Re: Free Internet... ?

2000-03-19 Thread Chris Gray
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 01:50:38PM -0800, Percival wrote:
 
 I apologize, but I remember that several days ago someone was talking about a 
 free web access deal.  Some company who pays for free internet access by 
 putting advertising on their hompage, and requesting users to load it as 
 their start page.  It worked with linux, which was the prime factor.
 
 I lost those messages, and I need to find this service again (I also lost the 
 bookmark).  Anyway, if anyone's got the info out there, please e-mail me.

The service is at http://www.freewwweb.com.  It's good, but where I
am they drop packets headed for port 25 on any other machine than
their own.  This makes sending mail kind of a pain in the butt if you
don't have a backup ISP.  Maybe it's different in other places.

HTH,
Chris Gray

 
 Thanks,
 
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Free Internet connection

2000-03-17 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Does anybody know how to connect to the free ISP-s from Debian boxes? I
want to drop my ATT account, but I am not sure that it will work, since
most of the free ISP say in their requirements windows. I have been
considering BlueLight (yahoo). Any ideas?
Thanks,
Antonio.


Re: Free Internet connection

2000-03-17 Thread rick
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
 Does anybody know how to connect to the free ISP-s from Debian boxes? I
 want to drop my ATT account, but I am not sure that it will work, since
 most of the free ISP say in their requirements windows. I have been
 considering BlueLight (yahoo). Any ideas?

freewwweb is linux-friendly.  No advertising bars onscreen.  Only
catch is they ask you to use their page as your Netscape startup.
Oh, and you've got to use the account more than 8hrs/month or something.

The minumum use thing is going to get me killed.  I've got the
account to back up cable because it's been so flakey but I haven't
had to use it much.

  http://www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/


Re: Free Internet connection

2000-03-17 Thread ktb
I haven't tried it but go to,

www.teledyn.com/products/FreeWWW/

tell me how it works for you if you try it, I'm just curious.
hth,
kent


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Subject: Free Internet connection


 Does anybody know how to connect to the free ISP-s from Debian boxes? I
 want to drop my ATT account, but I am not sure that it will work, since
 most of the free ISP say in their requirements windows. I have been
 considering BlueLight (yahoo). Any ideas?
 Thanks,
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Re: Free Internet connection

2000-03-17 Thread Jonathan Markevich
On Thu, Mar 16, 2000 at 08:10:01PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
 Does anybody know how to connect to the free ISP-s from Debian boxes? I
 want to drop my ATT account, but I am not sure that it will work, since
 most of the free ISP say in their requirements windows. I have been
 considering BlueLight (yahoo). Any ideas?

I'm using Freewwweb successfully.  It's quite busy but it works very well. 
Zero banner programs!  They just want you to set your home page to
home.freewwweb.com which is quite nice.  I even used it on my mac plus!

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Re: Free Internet connection

2000-03-17 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
At 08:10 PM 3/16/00 -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

Does anybody know how to connect to the free ISP-s from Debian boxes? I
want to drop my ATT account, but I am not sure that it will work, since
most of the free ISP say in their requirements windows. I have been
considering BlueLight (yahoo). Any ideas?

I was using freewwweb.com for a short stint.  Configuration was easy, I
signed up on their web site (http://www.freewwweb.com), ran pppconfig,
entered the right settings, and off I went.  I never had any problems
with it, except for the occasional busy signals.  I've since went back
to a local ISP for various reasons, but I still have the settings here
in case I need it again.

HTH,

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