Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On Vi, 21 iun 13, 20:55:15, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 21:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:52:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs) So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? Package names don't change too often between releases, only versions do. Good thought, but it wasn't what I was thinking about. My guess was regarding to self build packages, that aren't available by any repository. Some might still work, if the OP would keep them, but others might miss needed dependencies. The OP did not mention self built packages. Upstream might switch from one lib to another, the names are still the same, but a package might not need lib A anymore, but does need lib B nowadays. And for sure, a package perhaps need version = X and a new version is X. This is generally not a big issue for non-Debian packages, because they are statically linked and/or only depend on libraries that are in Debian (i.e. they seldom provide their own libraries). Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On 06/21/2013 01:04 AM, John wrote: 1. #dpkg --get-selections \* | grep -e install -e hold | grep -v deinstall ~/my-selections-$(date +%Y%m%d) I'd go with the raw output of dpkg: $ dpkg --get-selections ~/my-selections-$(date +'%F') Sometimes it is important to know which packages have been removed. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51c42203.4080...@gmail.com
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On Jo, 20 iun 13, 00:42:56, Bill.M wrote: I'm thinking that what I need to generate is a diff list of packages installed on my current Squeeze that aren't in the standard Squeeze and then feed that into apt on Wheezy. But how to do that? How to generate the Squeeze list? I haven't located any advice. Let me be the dissenting voice and suggest something not involving dpkg --get-selections. 0. Run: aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?not(?origin(Debian))?installed' non-Debian.pkgs The non-Debian.pkgs will now contain a list of packages that are *not* from Debian. Depending on the amount of packages I would start researching where they come from (apt-cache policy package) and try to replace with Debian alternatives. Also look if the provider has versions available for wheezy. 1. Install a fresh wheezy. 2. migrate the relevant sources.lists entries (i.e. replace squeeze with wheezy wherever possible) or download the wheezy versions of non-Debian packages. 3. Install downloaded packages with dpkg -i (but you should know that) and all other packages with aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs) So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? Ok, but the OP should be aware, that dependencies might be broken and in the end the above command + updating Debian packages doesn't result in anything different than dpkg --set-selections list.txt does ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371826369.691.111.camel@archlinux
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:52:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs) So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? Package names don't change too often between releases, only versions do. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 21:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 21 iun 13, 16:52:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 17:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: aptitude install $(cat non-Debian.pkgs) So the OP will keep some packages as they are, without updating? Package names don't change too often between releases, only versions do. Good thought, but it wasn't what I was thinking about. My guess was regarding to self build packages, that aren't available by any repository. Some might still work, if the OP would keep them, but others might miss needed dependencies. I agree that package names usually don't change that often, resp. for the distro I prefer at the moment, there are relatively often changes for the package names, so it's not completely unusual. Upstream might switch from one lib to another, the names are still the same, but a package might not need lib A anymore, but does need lib B nowadays. And for sure, a package perhaps need version = X and a new version is X. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371840915.691.161.camel@archlinux
From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
Hi folks, I've been using Squeeze (Lenny, Etch, Sarge, Woody etc) for some time and have added many individual package installs beyond the standard, out of the box, distros over the years. Now I'm installing onto a new machine and would like to migrate as much of my old system onto the new machine as I can. What I mean here is that I'd like to be able to install the Wheezy version of most of those additional packages on the new system in addition to an out of the box fresh install of Wheezy. 80 or 90 percent would be excellent. I'm thinking that what I need to generate is a diff list of packages installed on my current Squeeze that aren't in the standard Squeeze and then feed that into apt on Wheezy. But how to do that? How to generate the Squeeze list? I haven't located any advice. Any thoughts? Is this even possible? b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51c2b280.8090...@uniserve.com
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
Using apt: -- Create a backup of what packages are currently installed: sudo dpkg --get-selections list.txt Then (on another system) restore installations from that list: sudo dpkg --clear-selections sudo dpkg --set-selections list.txt To get rid of stale packages sudo apt-get autoremove To get installed like at backup time sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade - http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages Using Synaptic: --- Once Synaptic is running, select Save Markings from the drop-down File menu. You will be prompted for a location. Obviously, save to a USB stick (and make sure too that you check the box marked Save full state, not only changes otherwise you may create an empty file!). Installing all that software is simply a matter of opening Synaptic in the other machine(s) and this time selecting Read markings from the File drop-down menu and selecting that backup and leave Synaptic to do its work. Of course, some of the packages may have been installed via a PPA and that means you'd be well advised to also backup your sources files, which contains a list of all enabled repositories including the PPAs. Synaptic does not have a facility for doing this, so just copy it (as root) with this simple command: cp /etc/apt/sources.list.d ~/sources.list.d.backup - http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/using_synaptic_package_manager_clone_installed_software_another_computer Without a tool: --- Restore a backup of an already existing Debian and upgrade it to the new version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371716021.6069.54.camel@archlinux
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:42:56 -0700 Bill.M bi...@uniserve.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been using Squeeze (Lenny, Etch, Sarge, Woody etc) for some time and have added many individual package installs beyond the standard, out of the box, distros over the years. Now I'm installing onto a new machine and would like to migrate as much of my old system onto the new machine as I can. What I mean here is that I'd like to be able to install the Wheezy version of most of those additional packages on the new system in addition to an out of the box fresh install of Wheezy. 80 or 90 percent would be excellent. I'm thinking that what I need to generate is a diff list of packages installed on my current Squeeze that aren't in the standard Squeeze and then feed that into apt on Wheezy. But how to do that? How to generate the Squeeze list? I haven't located any advice. Any thoughts? Is this even possible? I wouldn't have thought so. I would tackle this by cloning your squeeze, as far as possible, to the new box and then upgrading. At least some of the issues between versions are dealt with in the upgrade, whereas they wouldn't be any other way. A new installation will differ significantly from an upgraded version, because of the 'if I was going there, sure I wouldn't be starting from here' effect. If you're going up in hardware bit numbers, I found the easiest way to move an installation was using dpgk --get-selections. The 32-64 bit issues get in the way if you try something more direct. There will be lots of messy details. Good luck. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130620092023.4ba6b...@jretrading.com
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
Might want to add any additional third-party repositories and run sudo apt-get update On 20 June 2013 09:13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Using apt: -- Create a backup of what packages are currently installed: sudo dpkg --get-selections list.txt Then (on another system) restore installations from that list: sudo dpkg --clear-selections sudo dpkg --set-selections list.txt To get rid of stale packages sudo apt-get autoremove To get installed like at backup time sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade - http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages Using Synaptic: --- Once Synaptic is running, select Save Markings from the drop-down File menu. You will be prompted for a location. Obviously, save to a USB stick (and make sure too that you check the box marked Save full state, not only changes otherwise you may create an empty file!). Installing all that software is simply a matter of opening Synaptic in the other machine(s) and this time selecting Read markings from the File drop-down menu and selecting that backup and leave Synaptic to do its work. Of course, some of the packages may have been installed via a PPA and that means you'd be well advised to also backup your sources files, which contains a list of all enabled repositories including the PPAs. Synaptic does not have a facility for doing this, so just copy it (as root) with this simple command: cp /etc/apt/sources.list.d ~/sources.list.d.backup - http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/using_synaptic_package_manager_clone_installed_software_another_computer Without a tool: --- Restore a backup of an already existing Debian and upgrade it to the new version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371716021.6069.54.camel@archlinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG0rmd6NHiG_F0cCpj=wor9jlmsjmtymxdy4mfq4ylz1mrn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem
On 20/06/13, Bill.M (bi...@uniserve.com) wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:42:56 -0700 From: Bill.M bi...@uniserve.com To: Debian User ML debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: From Squeeze to Wheezy: An upgrade problem X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RDNS_NONE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Hi folks, ... I'm thinking that what I need to generate is a diff list of packages installed on my current Squeeze that aren't in the standard Squeeze and then feed that into apt on Wheezy. But how to do that? How to generate the Squeeze list? I haven't located any advice. Any thoughts? Is this even possible? 1. #dpkg --get-selections \* | grep -e install -e hold | grep -v deinstall ~/my-selections-$(date +%Y%m%d) 2. #dselect update #dpkg --set-selections my-selections-$whateverthedatewas Maybe take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/status? #apt-get -u dselect-upgrade May need to #dselect install I didn't think any of this up, but copied it from smarter folks whose names I have forgotten. -- johnrchamp...@wowway.com GPG key 1024D/99421A63 2005-01-05 EE51 79E9 F244 D734 A012 1CEC 7813 9FE9 9942 1A63 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 99421A63 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
