Gnome/GTK programs slow over XDMCP in Lenny
Hi List, I've been using Debian Etch happily since about October 2007. It's a great, stable environment for the development work I do. After some testing in a virtual machine and on a couple of spare boxes, I decided to move from Etch to Lenny. Unfortunately, I didn't pay enough attention to the speed of Evolution and other GTK programs during my testing. The problem is that I use XDMCP to connect to the server on which my Debian system is running. It seems that GTK programs in Lenny run rather badly. The particular problem seems to be scrolling GTK lists, which is very sluggish (unusably so). I use Evolution as my mail client and scrolling big lists is a major feature of my usage pattern. Scrolling OpenOffice is also a problem (this goes away if I open OpenOffice in KDE). I'm connecting from a Debian 5 computer running an X server to my Debian 5 server. I also tried connecting to a fresh (i.e. not upgraded from Etch) Debian 5 installation running in a virtual machine and demonstrated the same problem. If I connect to an Ubuntu 8.04 virtual machine, performance scrolling GTK lists in Evolution is faster than when connecting to the Lenny OSes and quite acceptable. Ubuntu 8.04 has very similar Evolution/Gnome versions to Debian Lenny, though I believe they are slightly different. So, has anyone else experienced this problem? Does anyone have a workaround? very best regards, Seb James (note - I DO have the RENDER extension on the PC at which I am sitting) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Starting Gnome (GTK+) applications is slow (font loading)
On (23/12/03 09:02), Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2003-12-22 18:07:53 -0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Just guessing, but probably you have both the FontPath and the font server defined in /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4). Use only one. I have the following in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section Files FontPathunix/:7100# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection But I thought that this was just for bitmap fonts. So, where's the problem? I'm not sure whether this is relevant but I found Rob Weir's font guide, posted here a while back, very useful: http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt HTH Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting Gnome (GTK+) applications is slow (font loading)
On 2003-12-23 09:34:23 +, Clive Menzies wrote: I'm not sure whether this is relevant but I found Rob Weir's font guide, posted here a while back, very useful: http://egads.ertius.org/~rob/font_guide.txt Thanks, I've done all what this document says, and now gimv starts in about 5 seconds instead of 25! However, I don't know the reason. :) -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Starting Gnome (GTK+) applications is slow (font loading)
For a few weeks, starting Gnome applications such as gimv had been very slow. For instance, starting gimv (with no options) on my 400MHz G4 PowerBook takes 25 seconds! A strace suggests that it takes all this time by loading fonts from /usr/share/texmf/fonts (I have this directory in /etc/fonts/local.conf since it is used by Mozilla in order to render MathML). Does anyone have similar problems? Couldn't these applications use a font cache? TIA for any information, -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting Gnome (GTK+) applications is slow (font loading)
Em Seg, 2003-12-22 s 13:52, Vincent Lefevre escreveu: For a few weeks, starting Gnome applications such as gimv had been very slow. For instance, starting gimv (with no options) on my 400MHz G4 PowerBook takes 25 seconds! A strace suggests that it takes all this time by loading fonts from /usr/share/texmf/fonts (I have this directory in /etc/fonts/local.conf since it is used by Mozilla in order to render MathML). Just guessing, but probably you have both the FontPath and the font server defined in /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4). Use only one. -- Leandro Guimares Faria Corcete Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Prefeitura do Municpio de So Paulo dos Campos de Piratininga Governo Eletrnico, Telecentros +55 (11) 5080 9647 http://br.geocities.com./lgcdutra/ +55 (11) 5080 9648 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting Gnome (GTK+) applications is slow (font loading)
On 2003-12-22 18:07:53 -0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: Just guessing, but probably you have both the FontPath and the font server defined in /etc/X11/XF86Config(-4). Use only one. I have the following in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: Section Files FontPathunix/:7100# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection But I thought that this was just for bitmap fonts. So, where's the problem? -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome / Gtk menu fonts: galeon, mozilla, pan, gabber (sid/unstable)
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:55:46PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: As for configuring GNOME1 apps in a GNOME2 environment, it is possible, gtk1.2 apps take their font (and theme) settings from ~/.gtkrc. I've found it easy to modify my font settings there. -rob msg14368/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Gnome / Gtk menu fonts: galeon, mozilla, pan, gabber (sid/unstable)
Menu fonts for a number of applications, most of them Gnome / Gtk apps (and I suspect the latter) are now larger than I'd like them to be. Apps affected include Galeon, Pan, Gabber, Mozilla, and dillo. With recent upgrades, I've now got Gnome2 partially installed on this x86 Debian/unstable system. Some of the native Gnome2 tools *do* have the proper system fonts, as do some (but not all) apps (most notably: Mozilla) when run under a Gnome2 session (my standard desktop is WindowMaker). I seem to recall modifying application fonts via the old Gnome 1 control panel. The Gnome2 control panel settings aren't taking for most of these apps. I've also tried fishing under ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 but can't find anything that appears to be a general menus font setting. I've also found references to gtkrc files, either under /etc or ~/.gtkrc, but I'm not sure what the syntax or possible contents are, and can find no other related documentation. Anyone got a work-through for this? Thanks. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Geek for hire: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/resume.html msg14113/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome / Gtk menu fonts: galeon, mozilla, pan, gabber (sid/unstable)
This one time, at band camp, Karsten M. Self said: Menu fonts for a number of applications, most of them Gnome / Gtk apps (and I suspect the latter) are now larger than I'd like them to be. Apps affected include Galeon, Pan, Gabber, Mozilla, and dillo. With recent upgrades, I've now got Gnome2 partially installed on this x86 Debian/unstable system. Some of the native Gnome2 tools *do* have the proper system fonts, as do some (but not all) apps (most notably: Mozilla) when run under a Gnome2 session (my standard desktop is WindowMaker). I seem to recall modifying application fonts via the old Gnome 1 control panel. The Gnome2 control panel settings aren't taking for most of these apps. I've also tried fishing under ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 but can't find anything that appears to be a general menus font setting. I've also found references to gtkrc files, either under /etc or ~/.gtkrc, but I'm not sure what the syntax or possible contents are, and can find no other related documentation. Anyone got a work-through for this? Thanks. Peace. Karsten, Fonts (in particular Truetype fonts) changed quite a bit just recently. I don't have a workthrough for you, just to suggest you make sure you have x-ttcidfont-conf installed, and that you check the archives. As for configuring GNOME1 apps in a GNOME2 environment, it is possible, but not easy. Someone on the gtk-gnome list suggested getting the source of the GNOME1 control center, and redoing the conflicts/dependencies to allow it to be installed at the same time as the GNOME2 control center. I would think there would be a better way, and if I come up with it, I'll let you know. -- -- |Stephen Gran | Q: What do you call a WASP who doesn't work | |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | for his father, isn't a lawyer, and | |http://www.lobefin.net/~steve | believes in social causes? A: A failure. | | | | -- msg14215/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome / Gtk menu fonts: galeon, mozilla, pan, gabber (sid/unstable)
try it with putting the following in your ~/.gtkrc
style user-font
{
fontset=-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
}
widget_class * style user-font
you can use simpler font names if you have set up aliases on your system
(i didn't).
further you may want to checkout the XFree86 Font De-uglification HOWTO
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html
for further references and tips
To get antialiased fonts in GNOME 2 see
http://people.debian.org/~walters/gnome2.html
I tried this but remove the settings afterwards because i messed up the
fonts in eclipse (you could fix that, i guess, but i wasn't in the mood
to fiddle around with it)
cheers,
#!michael
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Menu fonts for a number of applications, most of them Gnome / Gtk apps
(and I suspect the latter) are now larger than I'd like them to be.
Apps affected include Galeon, Pan, Gabber, Mozilla, and dillo.
With recent upgrades, I've now got Gnome2 partially installed on this
x86 Debian/unstable system. Some of the native Gnome2 tools *do* have
the proper system fonts, as do some (but not all) apps (most notably:
Mozilla) when run under a Gnome2 session (my standard desktop is
WindowMaker).
I seem to recall modifying application fonts via the old Gnome 1
control panel. The Gnome2 control panel settings aren't taking for most
of these apps. I've also tried fishing under ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 but
can't find anything that appears to be a general menus font setting.
I've also found references to gtkrc files, either under /etc or
~/.gtkrc, but I'm not sure what the syntax or possible contents are, and
can find no other related documentation.
Anyone got a work-through for this?
Thanks.
Peace.
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Solved: Re: Gnome / Gtk menu fonts: galeon, mozilla, pan, gabber (sid/unstable)
on Wed, Nov 20, 2002, Michael Rauch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Karsten M. Self wrote:
Menu fonts for a number of applications, most of them Gnome / Gtk apps
(and I suspect the latter) are now larger than I'd like them to be.
Apps affected include Galeon, Pan, Gabber, Mozilla, and dillo.
With recent upgrades, I've now got Gnome2 partially installed on this
x86 Debian/unstable system. Some of the native Gnome2 tools *do* have
the proper system fonts, as do some (but not all) apps (most notably:
Mozilla) when run under a Gnome2 session (my standard desktop is
WindowMaker).
...
try it with putting the following in your ~/.gtkrc
style user-font
{
fontset=-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
}
widget_class * style user-font
you can use simpler font names if you have set up aliases on your system
(i didn't).
From the biting-the-hand-that-feeds-me dept.:
Please use postfix quoting format: your reply goes below the material
cited. Trim your quotes appropriately and ensure your attributions are
accurate.
Thanks ;-)
That's pretty close to what I ended up doing. I (mostly) cloned the
/etc/gtk/gtkrc.iso-8859-15 file to ~/.gtkrc:
style gtk-default-iso-8859-15 {
fontset = -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\
-*-arial-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\
-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,\
-*-arial-medium-r-normal--10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,*-r-*
}
class GtkWidget style gtk-default-iso-8859-15
...which gets most things straight. pan's fonts are still large (but I
don't use it much). Galeon, mozilla, and gabber are all kopacetic,
which is what counts.
Peace.
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Re: Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
Moin Patrick! Patrick Petermair schrieb am Saturday, den 02. November 2002: Ich habe hier noch ein ziemlich jungfreuliches Debian/unstable, mit KDE 3.0.4 und ein paar Apps. Bei KDE Programmen ist alles toll, jedoch machen gnome/gtk Programme ein Verwendest du denn noch was anderes, als Qt- und Gtk-Programme? Ich glaube, du hast Brandens Vorliebe für kranke Konfigurationen entdeckt und möchtest die Reihenfolge der Font-Pfade in XF86Config-4 (bzw der config vom xfs) ändern, so dass 75er vor 100er kommen. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Und dann den Prozeß der Prozeße forken: /bin/hirn -e `diff SuSE Debian RedHat /dev/ahaeffekt` (Christian Winter in dcoulm) -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
Hi Patrick, Am 03.11.2002 02:50 schrieb Patrick Petermair: Danke, der Tipp mit der .gtkrc hat mein Problem vorzüglich gelöst. Hab mit den Fonts ein bißchen gespielt und schon sehen meine gtk Apps wieder menschlich aus :-) Hätte mich ja gewundert, wenn ich erst das halbe Gnome installieren müßte für ein so triviales Problem... Hatte vor kurzem ein ähnliches Problem (große und pixelige Schriften in GIMP, Mozilla, ...) unter KDE 3.0.4. Das deb-Paket gtk-theme-switch hat mir geholfen, das zu beheben. Thomas -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
Hi! Ich habe hier noch ein ziemlich jungfreuliches Debian/unstable, mit KDE 3.0.4 und ein paar Apps. Bei KDE Programmen ist alles toll, jedoch machen gnome/gtk Programme ein paar Schwierigkeiten was Schriftgröße angeht. Menu-Fonts sind übernatürlich groß, Buttons brauchen deswegen auch ziemlich Platz, und das Ganze schaut nicht unbedingt toll aus. Hier mal ein Screenshot zur Verdeutlichung: http://www.thebigf.com/~black/public/screenshot.jpg Vergleicht man die Menüschriften von KNode/Konqueror mit GQView, dann liegen da Welten dazwischen. Die Fonts und Buttons von X-CD Roast wirken auch eher so, als ob ich kurzsichtig wäre :-) Lange Rede kurzer Sinn, wie bzw. wo kann ich das ändern? Hatte vorher ne Suse Distri und auch nur KDE, da fiel mir dieses Problem allerdings nicht auf. Thnx so far... MfG Patrick -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
On 02.Nov 2002 - 18:43:22, Patrick Petermair wrote: Hi! Ich habe hier noch ein ziemlich jungfreuliches Debian/unstable, mit KDE 3.0.4 und ein paar Apps. Bei KDE Programmen ist alles toll, jedoch machen gnome/gtk Programme ein paar Schwierigkeiten was Schriftgröße angeht. Menu-Fonts sind übernatürlich groß, Buttons brauchen deswegen auch ziemlich Platz, und das Ganze schaut nicht unbedingt toll aus. Hier mal ein Screenshot zur Verdeutlichung: http://www.thebigf.com/~black/public/screenshot.jpg Vergleicht man die Menüschriften von KNode/Konqueror mit GQView, dann liegen da Welten dazwischen. Die Fonts und Buttons von X-CD Roast wirken auch eher so, als ob ich kurzsichtig wäre :-) Lange Rede kurzer Sinn, wie bzw. wo kann ich das ändern? Hatte vorher ne Suse Distri und auch nur KDE, da fiel mir dieses Problem allerdings nicht auf. gnomecc, das Einstellzentrum für Gnome/GTK Programme, dort glaube ich als Punkt beim Themenauswähler (Standardschrift durch eigene ersetzen). Andreas -- F: Warum tragen Elefanten Turnschuhe? A: Damit es nicht so rummst, wenn sie aus den Bäumen springen. msg23562/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
Am Samstag, 2. November 2002 19:22 schrieb Andreas Pakulat: gnomecc, das Einstellzentrum für Gnome/GTK Programme, dort glaube ich als Punkt beim Themenauswähler (Standardschrift durch eigene ersetzen). Laut apt-cache search gnomecc brauche ich das Paket gdkxft-capplet. Durch Abhängigkeiten würde mir das aber 56 (!) neue Pakete, die dann 38.3 MB belegen, installieren. Das scheint mir doch ein bißchen viel, da ich ja nur die Schriften verkleinern/ändern will. Ich hoffe mal, daß es da auch einen anderen Weg gibt. Ich hebe mir diese Möglichkeit mal auf, für den Fall, daß sonst nix zur Lösung führt. Thnx auf jeden Fall... MfG Patrick -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
On 02.Nov 2002 - 19:38:57, Patrick Petermair wrote:
Am Samstag, 2. November 2002 19:22 schrieb Andreas Pakulat:
gnomecc, das Einstellzentrum für Gnome/GTK Programme, dort glaube ich
als Punkt beim Themenauswähler (Standardschrift durch eigene ersetzen).
Laut apt-cache search gnomecc brauche ich das Paket gdkxft-capplet. Durch
Abhängigkeiten würde mir das aber 56 (!) neue Pakete, die dann 38.3 MB
belegen, installieren. Das scheint mir doch ein bißchen viel, da ich ja
nur die Schriften verkleinern/ändern will. Ich hoffe mal, daß es da auch
einen anderen Weg gibt.
Das stimmt so nicht, apt-cache search sucht in allen Paketbeschreibungen
nach dem übergebenen String. Du brauchst gdkxft-capplet nicht unbedingt,
versuchs mal mit apt-cache show gnome-control-center, da stehen dann
unter depends alle Pakete die noch installier werden sollen. Wenn das
immernoch zu viel ist, man kann den font auch in der Datei .gtkrc im
Home setzen, bei mir sieht der Eintrag dort so aus:
# -- THEME AUTO-WRITTEN DO NOT EDIT
include /usr/share/themes/Default/gtk/gtkrc
style user-font
{
fontset=-monotype-arial unicode ms-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1
}
widget_class * style user-font
include /home/andreas/.gtkrc.mine
# -- THEME AUTO-WRITTEN DO NOT EDIT
(sorry für die überlange Zeile)
Für die genaue Fontbezeichnung am besten mit xfontsel einen raussuchen
Andreas
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Re: Fonts von gnome/gtk apps zu groß
Am Samstag, 2. November 2002 20:44 schrieb Andreas Pakulat: Das stimmt so nicht, apt-cache search sucht in allen Paketbeschreibungen nach dem übergebenen String. Du brauchst gdkxft-capplet nicht unbedingt, versuchs mal mit apt-cache show gnome-control-center, da stehen dann unter depends alle Pakete die noch installier werden sollen. Wenn das immernoch zu viel ist, man kann den font auch in der Datei .gtkrc im Home setzen, bei mir sieht der Eintrag dort so aus: [snip] Danke, der Tipp mit der .gtkrc hat mein Problem vorzüglich gelöst. Hab mit den Fonts ein bißchen gespielt und schon sehen meine gtk Apps wieder menschlich aus :-) Hätte mich ja gewundert, wenn ich erst das halbe Gnome installieren müßte für ein so triviales Problem... MfG Patrick -- ,-._,-. \/)(\/ Patrick Petermair (_o_) http://www.petermair.com / \./) ( | | | | ) oo-oo -- Häufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http://www.de.debian.org/debian-user-german-FAQ/ Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Shell emulator with tabs for gnome/gtk
I'm looking for a shell emulation program that has tabs (like the one you see in galeon or gedit). The one I'm presently using, powershell, does have tabs (which I found, thanks to apt-cache search). But I have some issues with it ;-). Now are there any other gnome- or gtk-based shell emulators that has a similar feature to let me keep my desktop as uncluttered as possible? -- Sir Isaac Newton: If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
Re: Shell emulator with tabs for gnome/gtk
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 06:48:47AM +0800, csj wrote: I'm looking for a shell emulation program that has tabs (like the one you see in galeon or gedit). The one I'm presently using, powershell, does have tabs (which I found, thanks to apt-cache search). But I have some issues with it ;-). Now are there any other gnome- or gtk-based shell emulators that has a similar feature to let me keep my desktop as uncluttered as possible? I don't know of any other choices (unfortunately), but the cvs version of powershell has been working pretty well for me. Of course, you need to be running testing or unstable and have a bunch of dev packages installed to have any chance of compiling it. -- John Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can answer any question. (Often the answer is I don't know)
writing gnome-gtk-programs-questions
Hi, I've just download the gnome and gtk-stuff from http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink /dists/unstable/main/binary-i386' I've sucked almost every stuff from this and installed: -gnome -enlightenment my personally preferency is, however, - gnome or -iceWM-GNOME (with theme gnomeish) I usually writing apps using the qt-1.44 - Library from Troll Techhttp://www.troll.no I like the gnome-feel. KDE is for me to much I not needed this at all, so should I change my gui-tool from qt to gtk-- (hope this is the c++-part of gtk ?) to make the program-line more straight ahead ? some question: What do I need if I like to develop my application for gnome, I preffer C++ not C, however, ... is there a tutorial, a manual, anything else, ... qt comes with several very clear examples(program-codes included) and a 800 pg. Handbook + tutorial , and last but not least it's very easy to use in C++. I've tried g++ -o hello hello.cc -I/usr/lib/Gtk--/include -lgtkmm `gtk-config --cflags` that produced In file included from hello.cc:1: /usr/include/gtk--.h:203: gtk--/accelgroup.h: No such file or directory In file included from ./../widget.gen_h:5, from /usr/include/gtk--/container.h:7, from /usr/include/gtk--/bin.h:8, from /usr/include/gtk--/alignment.h:8, from /usr/include/gtk--.h:208, from hello.cc:1: /usr/include/gtk--/accelerator.h:8: gtk/gtkaccelerator.h: No such file or directory In file included from hello.cc:1: /usr/include/gtk--.h:239: gtk--/itemfactory.h: No such file or directory What do I wrong or what I must additional install on to my system ? I have running: Debian/Gnu Linux 2.1 slink Thanks for help and information cu, Peter -- Peter Berlau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome + gtk + dpkg
I've finally decided to bite the bullet, and install GNOME. I'm running hamm, without any packages from slink or potato installed. I've downloaded the .deb files for the basic gnome system from ftp.gnome.org, and thought I'd try and work out how to install them with dpkg. The problem is, it's conflicting with the versions of gimp and gtk+ and glib that I have installed at the moment (snipped output from dpkg -l); gimp1.0.0-1The layers-based, non-Motif GNU Image Manipu libgtk1 1.0.4-1The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X libgimp11.0.0-1Libraries necessary to run the GIMP So I'm obviously going to have to update quite a bit if I want everything to run smoothly. Can any of you GNOME + gimp users advise me here? Ought I to move up to gtk+ 1.1.x, or should I stick as closely as possible to the stuff that comes with hamm? Thanks. -- Graham
Re: gnome + gtk + dpkg
On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Graham Ashton wrote: I've finally decided to bite the bullet, and install GNOME. I'm running hamm, without any packages from slink or potato installed. I've downloaded the .deb files for the basic gnome system from ftp.gnome.org, and thought I'd try and work out how to install them with dpkg. The problem is, it's conflicting with the versions of gimp and gtk+ and glib that I have installed at the moment (snipped output from dpkg -l); gimp1.0.0-1The layers-based, non-Motif GNU Image Manipu libgtk1 1.0.4-1The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X libgimp11.0.0-1Libraries necessary to run the GIMP just get libgtk1.1.* it won't interfere in any way with libgtk 1.0.*. Of course you would also need the libs/packages that libgtk1 depends upon ;-) k e c h i e
Re: Gnome/GTK
I ran into the same problem, and found a solution, but it was a bit of work. I'm hoping someone out there knows a cleaner solution. I wasn't sure if I should email this as a bug, but here's the problem inso much as I could figure out: Basically there are two problems (stemming from one): It stems from the fact that the gtk has two running versions - a stable, currently running at 1.0.5, and a non-stable development running at 1.1.x. 1. I happened to have both 1.0.5 and 1.1.x installed on my system. This is the first part that really confused building with gnome because they require the 1.1.x now, but for some reason my /usr/lib/libgtk.so and libgtk.so.1 pointed to libgtk.so.1.0.5 and not to libgtk-1.1.so. So first I had to re-link libgtk.so to point to the 1.1.x versions of the gtk. There were many other libraries which also had this problem (glib, gdk). 2. /usr/bin/gtk-config was configured to report that I was running 1.0.5 binaries and not 1.1.x. I had to update this file. I can understand that the above two problems are not fixed even if you just install the main/libs/libgtk1.1_1.1.1-1.deb, because I can see the adventerous user who is not a developer, but that want's to try out gnome. However, what I don't understand is not having the above two problems fixed if main/devel/libgtk1.1-dev_1.1.1-1.deb is installed, because this should imply a person is wanting to do gtk development with the latest stuff. My two cents. Geoff On 30-Aug-98 Havoc Pennington wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. Try doing this. If you don't understand config.log send a copy to the list (gnome-list@gnome.org is probably a better choice than debian-user though). Remember that Gnome is development software and is not ready for end users. So don't expect miracles... Havoc -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: Geoffrey L. Brimhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03-Sep-98 Time: 20:41:21 This message was sent by XFMail --
Re: Gnome/GTK
On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote: 1. I happened to have both 1.0.5 and 1.1.x installed on my system. This is the first part that really confused building with gnome because they require the 1.1.x now, but for some reason my /usr/lib/libgtk.so and libgtk.so.1 pointed to libgtk.so.1.0.5 and not to libgtk-1.1.so. So first I had to re-link libgtk.so to point to the 1.1.x versions of the gtk. There were many other libraries which also had this problem (glib, gdk). This is the wrong solution, basically you broke it. :-) libgtk-1.1 and libgtk are separate libraries with different names. They should both be installed, and the symlinks to 1.1 should all contain -1.1. 2. /usr/bin/gtk-config was configured to report that I was running 1.0.5 binaries and not 1.1.x. I had to update this file. gtk-config should probably be in the -dev package (I don't know if it is). You should have only *one* -dev package, 1.0 or 1.1. You can have both non-dev packages. However, what I don't understand is not having the above two problems fixed if main/devel/libgtk1.1-dev_1.1.1-1.deb is installed, because this should imply a person is wanting to do gtk development with the latest stuff. 1.1-dev should probably conflict with the stable -dev. (I assume it does, I don't know.) If it doesn't conflict I assume both packages contain /usr/include/gtk/gtk* and I don't know how that works out. Of course 1.1-dev is more or less useless. If a project is tracking the development version, it will probably only work with the very latest CVS version and this package will be too old. If you want to do development you should either use stable 1.0 or CVS. Havoc
Gnome/GTK
Hi, I just install gnome on my system. And have check out on the gnome page for some applications. I would like to use ggv (postcript veiwer). So i dowload it and tri to compil it. ./configure said: checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version = 1.1.1... no *** Could not run GTK test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GTK since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gtk-config script: /usr/bin/gtk-config configure: error: GTK not installed Well i think GTK in debian have the name `libgtk1.1' isnit? I have this already installed. So i dont know why .configure can not find it. What sould i do to make the compilation of a gnome app succsessfull??? Thanks, Phillip Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome/GTK
On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Phillip Neumann wrote: *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. Try doing this. If you don't understand config.log send a copy to the list (gnome-list@gnome.org is probably a better choice than debian-user though). Remember that Gnome is development software and is not ready for end users. So don't expect miracles... Havoc
