Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-30 Thread Waheed Islam

Thanks for the suggestion,

I didn't even notice the bf2.4 flavour of woody.

Anyway, I tried it, unfortunately it didn't work.
I would have thought that by 2.4.18 that they would include support for the 
AEC6280.
The kernel-config said that it supported aec62xx, I guess 80 doesn't come 
in that range.


I've done a quick install of debian on a friends laptop and will compile 
the drivers which are available from acard, and see how it turns out.


Thanks for the help,
but if you have anymore suggestions, I'd love to hear them.

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At 28/06/02 21:25, you wrote:

Waheed Islam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,
Could you PLEASE help!
during installation...
my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).


This is a just a guess, since I don't have access to that controller, BUT 
you just might' get lucky with the bf4 flavor of boot floppies from 
testing / Woody.  This particuar set has been built around the 2.4.18 
kernel, and they just might have included support for that 
controller...dunno.  In any case, you will know rather quickly when you 
put in the boot disk... the messages will tell you if it found it or 
not.  If it is found, you can proceed with the rest of the install.


I would recommend concentrating on Woody and give up on Potato.  The 
changes needed to run a 2.4.X kernel are just too great to make on install 
media, IMHO (unless you are a real guru).  Woody is about to be released 
as stable quite soon, so you probably are NOT giving up much stability, 
and you will gain quite a lot in flexibility, IMHO.


Cheers  Good Luck!
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hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread Waheed Islam

Hi,

Could you PLEASE help!

during installation...

my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).

The card is new and works perfectly in Win98, both my primary and secondary 
hdd's are connected to it.


The drive's are too large to be recognised by my motherboards' controller / 
bios. So that's no alternative.

(Both hdd's are Western Digital 40gig Caviar).

website for controller: 
http://www.acard.com/eng/product/adapter/pc/ide/aec-6280.html
The linux drivers are avail from: 
http://161.58.88.33/download/linux/driver/ide/aec6280_ver10.tar 
(un-compiled c).

And (i think) are included in the 2.4.x kernel versions.

I have tried the udma66 flavor of potato which supposedly includes support 
for the aec62xx cards (according to kernel-config).


I have read many how-to's and docs, no success.
Any suggestions, since this is my last hope to get potato installed.

Is there a way to execute the potato installation using a brand new 
pre-compiled kernel?
I don't have another linux box, thus can't compile a new kernel with 
support for the controller myself.


PLEASE HELP!

And thanks for reading / answering.
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Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread nate
quote who=Waheed Islam
 Hi,

 Could you PLEASE help!

 during installation...

 my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
 It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).


my best suggestion is to try the IDE install disks:

http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/
chances are very good that there are no drivers available for it
though.(on that disk)

you can see a list of supported chipsets for linux here:
http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html

(some may require newer kernels and/or 3rd party patches to run)

Ultra133 controllers are very very new .

in this situation, I would move the install drive to a controller that
is supported, install to it, and if your lucky you may be able to
track down a driver(possibly in the 2.4. kernel). then perhaps you
can migrate back to the other controller.

with IDE controllers so cheap if it was my system i would get a promise
ATA 100 controller instead ..(and use the IDE install disks) but
thats me

nate




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Thanks - Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread Waheed Islam

Thanks for the help and research dude.

I've already tried the UDMA66 and IDEPCI flavors of Debian, unfortunately, 
no success.


I'll probably get a friend or someone to compile the drivers supplied by 
ACard and see what I can make of it.
If that doesn't work, I think I'll have to sell this card on and buy one 
which is listed as being supported by Debian / Linux.


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At 28/06/02 14:04, you wrote:

quote who=Waheed Islam
 Hi,

 Could you PLEASE help!

 during installation...

 my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
 It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).


my best suggestion is to try the IDE install disks:

http://saens.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/idepci/
chances are very good that there are no drivers available for it
though.(on that disk)

you can see a list of supported chipsets for linux here:
http://www.linux-ide.org/chipsets.html

(some may require newer kernels and/or 3rd party patches to run)

Ultra133 controllers are very very new .

in this situation, I would move the install drive to a controller that
is supported, install to it, and if your lucky you may be able to
track down a driver(possibly in the 2.4. kernel). then perhaps you
can migrate back to the other controller.

with IDE controllers so cheap if it was my system i would get a promise
ATA 100 controller instead ..(and use the IDE install disks) but
thats me

nate




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Re: hard drive NOT found during install!

2002-06-28 Thread Donald R. Spoon

Waheed Islam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

Could you PLEASE help!

during installation...

my ide controller card is not being recognised by both, potato and woody.
It's an Acard AEC6280 Controller (no RAID, includes BIOS).

The card is new and works perfectly in Win98, both my primary and secondary 
hdd's are connected to it.


The drive's are too large to be recognised by my motherboards' controller / 
bios. So that's no alternative.

(Both hdd's are Western Digital 40gig Caviar).

website for controller: 
http://www.acard.com/eng/product/adapter/pc/ide/aec-6280.html
The linux drivers are avail from: 
http://161.58.88.33/download/linux/driver/ide/aec6280_ver10.tar 
(un-compiled c).

And (i think) are included in the 2.4.x kernel versions.

I have tried the udma66 flavor of potato which supposedly includes support 
for the aec62xx cards (according to kernel-config).


I have read many how-to's and docs, no success.
Any suggestions, since this is my last hope to get potato installed.

Is there a way to execute the potato installation using a brand new 
pre-compiled kernel?
I don't have another linux box, thus can't compile a new kernel with 
support for the controller myself.


PLEASE HELP!

And thanks for reading / answering.


This is a just a guess, since I don't have access to that controller, 
BUT you just might' get lucky with the bf4 flavor of boot floppies 
from testing / Woody.  This particuar set has been built around the 
2.4.18 kernel, and they just might have included support for that 
controller...dunno.  In any case, you will know rather quickly when you 
put in the boot disk... the messages will tell you if it found it or 
not.  If it is found, you can proceed with the rest of the install.


I would recommend concentrating on Woody and give up on Potato.  The 
changes needed to run a 2.4.X kernel are just too great to make on 
install media, IMHO (unless you are a real guru).  Woody is about to be 
released as stable quite soon, so you probably are NOT giving up much 
stability, and you will gain quite a lot in flexibility, IMHO.


Cheers  Good Luck!
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Re: HARD DRIVE NOT FOUND!!!

2000-01-26 Thread Kent West
NETO KWADJO wrote:
 
 Hello there!
   I own an AST ADVANTAGE! pc. It worked perfectly
 until I formatted the hard disk(c:\).I typed FORMAT
 C:\ at the C:\ prompt in a desperate attempt to free
 disk space and reinstall windows.
 
   But I noticed that when I restarted my pc,It asked
 for a system disk. After I inserted it and got
 access to the A:\ prompt,I tried changing to drive C:
 but it keeps on giving me a message like invalid
 drive specification.
 
   Now it seems I have completely wiped out my hard
 drive.
 
 Please help.
 
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Can fdisk see it? Perhaps the format somehow wiped the partition
information, and you need to re-fdisk it.

Also, some older BIOSes (I don't know how old the AST ADVANTAGE! is)
could not see all of a drive if the drive was bigger than 512MB or so.
If this is the case, there may be some overlay software still installed
on the drive that is causing problems. Again, fdisk should be your
friend. (Don't forget the fdisk /mbr option for good measure.)


HARD DRIVE NOT FOUND!!!

2000-01-25 Thread NETO KWADJO
Hello there!
  I own an AST ADVANTAGE! pc. It worked perfectly
until I formatted the hard disk(c:\).I typed FORMAT
C:\ at the C:\ prompt in a desperate attempt to free
disk space and reinstall windows.
  
  But I noticed that when I restarted my pc,It asked
for a system disk. After I inserted it and got
access to the A:\ prompt,I tried changing to drive C:
but it keeps on giving me a message like invalid
drive specification.
 
  Now it seems I have completely wiped out my hard
drive.

Please help.


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Re: HARD DRIVE NOT FOUND!!!

2000-01-25 Thread Robert L. Harris

Boot of a windows rescue disk and make sure the
partition of your C: is marked bootable and that
the partition is still there.  I formatted a windows
drive once along time ago and it removed the partitioning
info.  Was really weird.

Robert

Thus spake NETO KWADJO ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Hello there!
   I own an AST ADVANTAGE! pc. It worked perfectly
 until I formatted the hard disk(c:\).I typed FORMAT
 C:\ at the C:\ prompt in a desperate attempt to free
 disk space and reinstall windows.
   
   But I noticed that when I restarted my pc,It asked
 for a system disk. After I inserted it and got
 access to the A:\ prompt,I tried changing to drive C:
 but it keeps on giving me a message like invalid
 drive specification.
  
   Now it seems I have completely wiped out my hard
 drive.
 
 Please help.
 
 
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Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-08 Thread Oki DZ


Rick Dunnivan wrote:
 
 I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western
 digital hard drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd,
 my hard drive is not found.  I see in the install
 documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported.
 How do I know if this is what I have? 

I think by seeing the BIOS messages you have during the booting up the
system would be helpful. If the disk is SCSI, usually there'll be a
Press ctrlA (well, all right, if this is SCSI and Adaptec). If the
disk is IDE, usually you have the size of the disk get spit out on the
screen.

If you are willing, just open up the case and count the cable that
attached into the disk (no, not the power cables which are colored). The
cable looks like a tape that consists of many small cables. If the small
ones are at least 50 of them, then the disk is SCSI.

 This is the
 first time I've attempted to install an operating
 system of any kind, so be gentle.

Am I gentle enough...?

Oki



Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-08 Thread Oki DZ


Rick Dunnivan wrote:
 
 I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western
 digital hard drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd,
 my hard drive is not found.  I see in the install
 documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported.
 How do I know if this is what I have? 

I think by seeing the BIOS messages you have during the booting up the
system woX-Mozilla-Status: 0009 disk is SCSI, usually there'll be a
Press ctrlA (well, all right, if this is SCSI and Adaptec). If the
disk is IDE, usually you have the size of the disk get spit out on the
screen.

If you are willing, just open up the case and count the cable that
attached into the disk (no, not the power cables which are colored). The
cable looks like a tape that consists of many small cables. If the small
ones are at least 50 of them, then the disk is SCSI.

 This is the
 first time I've attempted to install an operating
 system of any kind, so be gentle.

Am I gentle enough...?

Oki


Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-08 Thread Rick Dunnivan

Actually I figured this one out.  The problem was my
Ultra66 ATA controller.  I unplugged my IDE cable from
it and plugged it into the IDE on my motherboard
instead.  Thanks for the help.

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Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-08 Thread Peter Ross
On 08-Dec-1999, Oki DZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Rick Dunnivan wrote:
  
  I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western
  digital hard drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd,
  my hard drive is not found.  I see in the install
  documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported.
  How do I know if this is what I have? 
 
Also for a gateway system you want to press the button that allows you
to see the boot up messages, not the gateway splash screen.


Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-01 Thread Kent West
Rick Dunnivan wrote:

 I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western
 digital hard drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd,
 my hard drive is not found.  I see in the install
 documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported.
 How do I know if this is what I have?  This is the
 first time I've attempted to install an operating
 system of any kind, so be gentle.

 =
 rick

I'm certainly no hardware expert, but saying that a drive is an IDE-SCSI 
drive is
akin to saying that a person is a male-female person; they are mutually 
exclusive
(well, outside of New York City and a few other places, that is).

Most IDE drives should be recognized without any problem. SCSI drives may 
require a
custom kernel in order to be recognized (but usually this is because of the SCSI
controller, not the drive itself).

Your best bet is to get a screwdriver and open the case and physically look at 
what's
inside. While there, make notes of all your hardware: make and model # of the 
hard
drive, video card, sound card, SCSI card if it exists, etc. You'll need some of 
this
later in the installation. If you can't find a model number on some of the 
cards,
write down the important-looking numbers on some of the important looking 
chips; that
might provide enough of a clue when you get to the point of needing specifics.

Since this is your first time to install an OS, I might suggest that you take 
the
time and effort to install MS-DOS from scratch (manually - boot off an MS-DOS 
floppy
with fdisk.exe and format.com and then do an fdisk and a format C: /s) 
before
installing Debian. Then you can wipe out DOS and install Debian. The reason for 
this
is so you can get a minimal feel for the similarities/differences in basic
OS installations.

At any rate, you're embarking on a great learning adventure. Have fun! Be 
prepared
for frustrations, and for the feeling of accomplishment you'll get when you 
make it
through.



Re: hard drive not found

1999-12-01 Thread Phil Brutsche
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

 I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western digital hard
 drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd, my hard drive is not found.

Ok.  Do you happen to know what hard drive you have?  I would not be
surprised if your problem is because the Debian boot floppy is based on an
ancient kernel.  Have you tried a boot floppy from a more recently
released distribution (like RedHat or SuSE)?

Also a tip: this is how IDE drives are mapped under Linux:

/dev/hda - the master drive on the primary controller
/dev/hdb - the slave drive on the primary controller
/dev/hdc - the master drive on the secondary controller
/dev/hdd - the slave drive on the secondary controller

If you see /dev/hdax (where x is a number), then that means partition x
on drive /dev/hda.  On most PCs today, /dev/hda is the hard drive, and
either /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd is the CD drive.

 I see in the install documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not
 supported.

I don't think that's your problem.  IDE-SCSI is used with IDE CD writers
so that they'll work properly under Linux, and little else.

This is from the documentation for the IDE-SCSI driver:

This will provide SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices, and
will allow you to use a SCSI device driver instead of a native ATAPI
driver.

This is useful if you have an ATAPI device for which no native driver has
been written (for example, an ATAPI PD-CD or CDR drive); you can then use
this emulation together with an appropriate SCSI device driver. In order
to do this, say Y here and to SCSI support and SCSI generic support,
below.

Note that this option does NOT allow you to attach SCSI devices to a box
that doesn't have a SCSI host adapter installed.

If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled into the
kernel, the native support will be used.

 How do I know if this is what I have?  This is the first time I've
 attempted to install an operating system of any kind, so be gentle.

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hard drive not found

1999-12-01 Thread Rick Dunnivan
I have a Gateway PC with a PIII 450 and a 9GB western
digital hard drive.  When I boot up with my Debian cd,
my hard drive is not found.  I see in the install
documentation that IDE-SCSI drives are not supported. 
How do I know if this is what I have?  This is the
first time I've attempted to install an operating
system of any kind, so be gentle.


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