Re: How can i install woody?
Did you pass through the Network configuration part after selecting the drivers? If the network is not configured it will not work. Michel. Paul I think my problem was that I DID select drivers. I did select them because I know they are there and I will want to use them when/if the install happens. But, the install script ASSUMED that my access to the internet was via a route thru one of those drivers, and therefore never set up ppp. I know I was never asked for a phone number, etc. I have not checked out this theory. I have not had the time. But if it is true, it is, in my opinion, a flawed user interface. Yes, I made a mistake (maybe), but answering a question honestly should not cause an install to fail. Again, if this theory is true, an option of ppp-to-the-net should always be offered along with cdrom, fd0, nfs, etc. But maybe I don't understand. You understand very-well. That's why woody is called testing :) And yes I suppose that if you don t install the eth0 driver everything will run smoothly, I didn t have the problem since I don t use ppp, eth0 and eth1 were installed correctly. Other solution, run a shell (Alt-F2 or choose in the menu), set-up your ppp-conection and your routes and again it will run smoothly. Michel.
Re: How can i install woody?
On Mon, 2001-12-10 at 02:37, Paul E Condon wrote: Michel Loos wrote: On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 19:14, Brian Clark wrote: * Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 01:25]: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least that is what I usually do. Michel. I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that method. -- -Brian Clark I gathered from this exchange that exchange that there is a way of installing woody that involves the web and does not use base-x floppies. So I tried it. Today, it didn't seem to be confusing. But it didn't work. Here is what happened: 1 Pretty much like Potato install at the beginning. No problems. I tell it about network card and ppp. I don't recall it asking about modem. 2 Get to the place where it asks where it should go for the packages to install. It gives several options, including web. I choose web. 3 It asks how to get to the web, and gives to options: eth0 and ipddp0. Big problem. I know eth0 won't work because that connects to another Devian Linux box and to two Apple Macs. None of these have a connection to the web. I don't know what idppd0 is, but I select it anyway. I am lead thru a sequence of setup screens on which I make no changes; the URL looks OK ... .us.debian.org ... I don't have a proxy that I know of, so I leave none I select OK and get an error message immediately: Malformed release file http://http.us.debian.org:80/debian/dists/woody/Release I try several times. The modem never blinks any lights. I get only the above message. From where is it getting this release file? 4 So I fire up the existing Red Hat 6.2 (on another hard disk) and look for woody installation instructions. I find a section on web install. It is about 4 lines long and ends with the phrase this sentence in not finished Perhaps one can install over the web. But can one install over ppp? (and diald?) Did you pass through the Network configuration part after selecting the drivers? If the network is not configured it will not work. Michel. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can i install woody?
Michel Loos wrote: On Mon, 2001-12-10 at 02:37, Paul E Condon wrote: Michel Loos wrote: On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 19:14, Brian Clark wrote: * Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 01:25]: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least that is what I usually do. Michel. I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that method. -- -Brian Clark I gathered from this exchange that exchange that there is a way of installing woody that involves the web and does not use base-x floppies. So I tried it. Today, it didn't seem to be confusing. But it didn't work. Here is what happened: 1 Pretty much like Potato install at the beginning. No problems. I tell it about network card and ppp. I don't recall it asking about modem. 2 Get to the place where it asks where it should go for the packages to install. It gives several options, including web. I choose web. 3 It asks how to get to the web, and gives to options: eth0 and ipddp0. Big problem. I know eth0 won't work because that connects to another Devian Linux box and to two Apple Macs. None of these have a connection to the web. I don't know what idppd0 is, but I select it anyway. I am lead thru a sequence of setup screens on which I make no changes; the URL looks OK ... .us.debian.org ... I don't have a proxy that I know of, so I leave none I select OK and get an error message immediately: Malformed release file http://http.us.debian.org:80/debian/dists/woody/Release I try several times. The modem never blinks any lights. I get only the above message. From where is it getting this release file? 4 So I fire up the existing Red Hat 6.2 (on another hard disk) and look for woody installation instructions. I find a section on web install. It is about 4 lines long and ends with the phrase this sentence in not finished Perhaps one can install over the web. But can one install over ppp? (and diald?) Did you pass through the Network configuration part after selecting the drivers? If the network is not configured it will not work. Michel. Paul I think my problem was that I DID select drivers. I did select them because I know they are there and I will want to use them when/if the install happens. But, the install script ASSUMED that my access to the internet was via a route thru one of those drivers, and therefore never set up ppp. I know I was never asked for a phone number, etc. I have not checked out this theory. I have not had the time. But if it is true, it is, in my opinion, a flawed user interface. Yes, I made a mistake (maybe), but answering a question honestly should not cause an install to fail. Again, if this theory is true, an option of ppp-to-the-net should always be offered along with cdrom, fd0, nfs, etc. But maybe I don't understand. Paul
Re: How can i install woody?
Brian Nelson wrote: "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:40:29 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: > > But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? > > Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) Paul Condon > > Note though that there are still some bugs - in particular, last time I > used them, I had to manually change the lilo.conf it generated to use > /boot/boot-menu.b rather than the no longer existant /boot/boot.b . Actually, I think the bug is that the symlink /boot/boot.b, which by default points to boot-menu.b, isn't created. Recently, I used the woody netinst iso, and it worked pretty well. http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/ -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can i install woody?
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 22:21:13 -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I'm not sure there ought to be ones. The current boot-floppies support installation of the base system from CD or network; I don't know if they support installing the base system from floppies. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) Definitely not. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: How can i install woody?
* Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 01:25]: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that method. -- -Brian Clark
Re: How can i install woody?
On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 19:14, Brian Clark wrote: * Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 01:25]: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least that is what I usually do. Michel. I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that method. -- -Brian Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can i install woody?
* Michel Loos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 16:19]: Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least that is what I usually do. I couldn't get this to work. The woody install program was confusing. At some points, I couldn't figure out what it wanted. Paul might be going through the same thing. -- -Brian Clark
Re: How can i install woody?
Michel Loos wrote: On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 19:14, Brian Clark wrote: * Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 01:25]: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.) I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least that is what I usually do. Michel. I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that method. -- -Brian Clark I gathered from this exchange that exchange that there is a way of installing woody that involves the web and does not use base-x floppies. So I tried it. Today, it didn't seem to be confusing. But it didn't work. Here is what happened: 1 Pretty much like Potato install at the beginning. No problems. I tell it about network card and ppp. I don't recall it asking about modem. 2 Get to the place where it asks where it should go for the packages to install. It gives several options, including web. I choose web. 3 It asks how to get to the web, and gives to options: eth0 and ipddp0. Big problem. I know eth0 won't work because that connects to another Devian Linux box and to two Apple Macs. None of these have a connection to the web. I don't know what idppd0 is, but I select it anyway. I am lead thru a sequence of setup screens on which I make no changes; the URL looks OK ... .us.debian.org ... I don't have a proxy that I know of, so I leave none I select OK and get an error message immediately: Malformed release file http://http.us.debian.org:80/debian/dists/woody/Release I try several times. The modem never blinks any lights. I get only the above message. From where is it getting this release file? 4 So I fire up the existing Red Hat 6.2 (on another hard disk) and look for woody installation instructions. I find a section on web install. It is about 4 lines long and ends with the phrase this sentence in not finished Perhaps one can install over the web. But can one install over ppp? (and diald?) Paul
Re: How can i install woody?
* Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 23:42]: I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least that is what I usually do. Michel. I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that method. I gathered from this exchange that exchange that there is a way of installing woody that involves the web and does not use base-x floppies. So I tried it. Today, it didn't seem to be confusing. But it didn't work. Here is what happened: 1 Pretty much like Potato install at the beginning. No problems. I tell it about network card and ppp. I don't recall it asking about modem. 2 Get to the place where it asks where it should go for the packages to install. It gives several options, including web. I choose web. During my install, it only gave me the option of installing from a local hard disk (I think), and CD-ROM. This is after I told it about ppp, as well. -- -Brian Clark
How can i install woody?
I have a new machine, on which I wish to isntall woody. What's the best way to do this? I have fast network conectivity, and for potato systems in the past, I have just downloaded the boot, root, and driver floppies, and done an install via ntework. But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: How can i install woody?
Hi, You could install potato and upgrade to woody. I don't know if it's the best way, but it's a way, and it worked fine for me. Good luck. Erik
Re: How can i install woody?
Hi Stan What they told me is: If you have trouble with Woody floppies (oxymoron?) use Potato install floppies, install enought to use apt, the follow the apt sequence of commands for upgrading then use dselect to install what you like. --David David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely, useful, technically accurate, and friendly. (I hope this is all of the above.) On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Stan Brown wrote: I have a new machine, on which I wish to isntall woody. What's the best way to do this? I have fast network conectivity, and for potato systems in the past, I have just downloaded the boot, root, and driver floppies, and done an install via ntework. But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can i install woody?
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:40:29 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ Note though that there are still some bugs - in particular, last time I used them, I had to manually change the lilo.conf it generated to use /boot/boot-menu.b rather than the no longer existant /boot/boot.b . HTH, Ray -- Signs of world domination: Tonight on Celebrity Deathmatch: Tux takes on the BSD daemon
Re: How can i install woody?
On Saturday 08 December 2001 05:40 am, Stan Brown wrote: I have a new machine, on which I wish to isntall woody. What's the best way to do this? I have fast network conectivity, and for potato systems in the past, I have just downloaded the boot, root, and driver floppies, and done an install via ntework. But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? edit /etc/apt/sources.list to change all instances of potato to woody.
Re: How can i install woody?
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:40:29 -0500, Stan Brown wrote: But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right? Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/ Note though that there are still some bugs - in particular, last time I used them, I had to manually change the lilo.conf it generated to use /boot/boot-menu.b rather than the no longer existant /boot/boot.b . Actually, I think the bug is that the symlink /boot/boot.b, which by default points to boot-menu.b, isn't created. Recently, I used the woody netinst iso, and it worked pretty well. http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/ -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com
