Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Will Lowe

 * D, like the d in day
 * e, like the e in pet
 * b, much softer than the b in bass
 * i, like see
 * a, like a in father (american english)
 * n, like in now

for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
than yours,  and ian goes
: e as in see
: an as in Annie

So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.

Will

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Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Dave Cinege
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:


 * D, like the d in day
 * e, like the e in pet
 * b, much softer than the b in bass
 * i, like see
 * a, like a in father (american english)
 * n, like in now

for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
than yours,  and ian goes
   : e as in see
   : an as in Annie

   So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.

This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.

I'-en
or
E'-en

?

Mr. Jackson?

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Shaya Potter
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
 
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
 than yours,  and ian goes
  : e as in see
  : an as in Annie
 
  So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.
 
 I'-en
 or
 E'-en
 
 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

wrong ian.  you want Ian Murdock.

Shaya


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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread James Troup
Dave Cinege [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how
 does the guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he
 says his name.

That's Ian Murdock, not Ian Jackson.  Please see the FAQ :-

URL:http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/debian-faq-2.html#ss2.5
2.5 How does one pronounce Debian and what does this word mean?

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Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Brian K Servis

How about having Ian or Bruce put a sound byte of them saying Debian
on the webJust like Linus did for Linux!

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Re: Ian Jack....uhm Murdock, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Dave Cinege
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:47:21 -0400 (EDT), Shaya Potter wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
 
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
 than yours,  and ian goes
 : e as in see
 : an as in Annie
 
 So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.
 
 I'-en
 or
 E'-en
 
 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

wrong ian.  you want Ian Murdock.

Damn! sorry.I see both their names on some much Debian stuff I keep 
confusing them

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Bruce Perens
Of course it's Ian Murdock, not Ian Jackson. 

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread branden
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:

  So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.
 
 I'-en
 or
 E'-en
 
 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

As others have pointed out, you're thinking of Ian Murdock, not Ian
Jackson, though they both have played crucian roles in the creation of our
distribution.

Last November/December, I had the pleasure of conversing with Ian Murdock
over lunch here at Purdue.  He indulged my silly curiosity (and likely my
mild but poorly-veiled air of hero-worship) for about an hour and a half
while I picked his brain about things Debian, Linux, and GNU-ish.

At any rate, I believe I can say with some certainty that he pronounces his
name E'-en, with a long E sound and the generic unstressed schwa-vowel
type sound.

Will's description of the pronunciation of Debian is pretty close to Ian's,
except I'm not sure I'd set off the i.  It's about as bi-syllabic as you
can get without introducing some kind of British y kind of thing, e.g.,
Deb-yun.

If I'd had the foresight, a portable tape recorder, and the ability to
convice him that, sure, it's just a joke, I would have recorded him
saying it, just Linus did with Linux.

I didn't get to meet the first half of the name of our distribution, but it
wasn't for trying -- I invited him and his wife over for a big-screen TV
Star Wars marathon that my roomates and I were throwing, but they didn't
make it.  Maybe he was busy with finals and graduation and all that stuff,
or maybe I just came off too psychotic.

You know, people often think I'm crazy but in truth--

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Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Will Lowe wrote:
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder
 than yours,  and ian goes
 : e as in see
 : an as in Annie
 
 So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.

Perhaps Ian (or Deb!) would digitize himself saying Debian and we 
could put the .wav or .au on the Debian web site?

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 10:52:51 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
 
 
  * D, like the d in day
  * e, like the e in pet
  * b, much softer than the b in bass
  * i, like see
  * a, like a in father (american english)
  * n, like in now
 
 for me (i'm on the middle atlantic seaboard in the US,  
 south of Philadelphia),  it's almost the same.  My b is a little harder 
 than yours,  and ian goes
  : e as in see
  : an as in Annie
 
  So it's three syllables,  Deb'-i-an,  with the accent on the deb.
 
 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.

Exactly. Ian is typically pronounced ee-an.

 ?
 
 Mr. Jackson?

You are asking the wrong Ian. The creator of Debian is Ian Murdoch.

Luck,

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Re: Ian Jackson, a question for you.....Re: How does Debian sound?

1997-06-23 Thread Mark W. Blunier


On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

 This is also how I pronounce it. But the question really is, how does the 
 guy who made it pronouce it? I guess it hinges on how he says his name.

Why?  My guess is that most people who have run across Debian (or Linux)
pronounce it based upon how they think it should sound after reading the
word, or based upon how a friend pronounced it.
I pronounce Linux as Linn-ux, not Line-ux even though it may have been a
play on the name Linus, who pronounces his name as Leenus.  As for Debian
I say Dee-Bee-Un.


Mark



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How does Debian sound?

1997-06-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallón
While I was thinking of a logo for Debian, I started brainstorming about what 
debian is... I know, it's Debbie and Ian, but was thinking of something else. 
You know, Red Hat is just that, a red hat, and Slackware is, oh, well, slack. 
Then it occured to me that I don't know how do native English speakers (Bruce, 
Ian, and plenty of others) pronounce Debian. I speak Spanish, and in Spanish 
there's a unique way of pronouncing Debian. According to my dictionary, it 
goes like this:

* D, like the d in day
* e, like the e in pet
* b, much softer than the b in bass
* i, like see
* a, like a in father (american english)
* n, like in now

It's De-bian, two syllabes. For some reason, the first time I saw the word 
Debian, it reminded me of something supernatural. Browsing in my dictionary, 
I've come to the conclusion that Debian in English sounds *a little* like 
divine. Something like di'baian, with the last a like the one in bat.


Cheers,

Marcelo Magallón


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