Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Chris Burkhardt wrote: H.S. wrote: Kent West wrote: I've just discovered that upgrading from the 2.6.18-6-686 kernel to the 2.6.24-1-686 re-introduces a hang-up on booting. D'oh! (choosing the old 2.6.18 kernel from lilo gets me going again, though - whew! Stupid Optiplex 320!) This might not matter, but can you verify that with new kernel, the root variable is being set as expected in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? Except he's using LILO and not Grub. But Kent might want to make sure everything in /etc/lilo.conf looks right. Congratulations on getting it going at all :) Yep, did that. The stanzas are the same as far as the options, etc. There's just something in the .24 kernel that's not in the .18 that causes it to hang. Man, this model of Dell has left me disliking Dell. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Kent West So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? Kent - Apologies if I've misunderstood because I've come into this conversation too late, but are you saying that you can get the grub installation to work successfully, but that when you reboot the machine afterwards and try to use grub to boot the computer, it fails because of missing parameters in /boot/grub/menu.list? Jaime -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM, j t [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Kent West So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? Kent - Apologies if I've misunderstood because I've come into this conversation too late, but are you saying that you can get the grub installation to work successfully, but that when you reboot the machine afterwards and try to use grub to boot the computer, it fails because of missing parameters in /boot/grub/menu.list? Jaime Sorry, my bad. Must remember to read the question, must remember to read the question, must remember... :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Kent West wrote: Yep, did that. The stanzas are the same as far as the options, etc. There's just something in the .24 kernel that's not in the .18 that causes it to hang. One more thing. Though I am not familiar with LILO, when you boot with the new kernel, is the disk drive detected as the same number as in the older one, for example sda in both cases? Also, is your disk drive SATA? -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Kent West wrote: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS to the most recent version, hoping that'd help. The best solution I've seen so far is to use this line at the installer's (Etch, I believe) LILO prompt: boot: install pci=nomsi That gets me farther than anything else I've tried, but when it tries to find the CD-ROM, it can't find the drive. (Apparently there's something really mucky about the SATA controller on this particular model of Dell.) So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? (Wow! I never thought I'd consider a Dell to be absolute cr*p, but this is it.) Thanks! http://faculty.acu.edu/~westk/optiplex320-debian.txt -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS to the most recent version, hoping that'd help. The best solution I've seen so far is to use this line at the installer's (Etch, I believe) LILO prompt: boot: install pci=nomsi That gets me farther than anything else I've tried, but when it tries to find the CD-ROM, it can't find the drive. (Apparently there's something really mucky about the SATA controller on this particular model of Dell.) So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? (Wow! I never thought I'd consider a Dell to be absolute cr*p, but this is it.) Thanks! http://faculty.acu.edu/~westk/optiplex320-debian.txt I've just discovered that upgrading from the 2.6.18-6-686 kernel to the 2.6.24-1-686 re-introduces a hang-up on booting. D'oh! (choosing the old 2.6.18 kernel from lilo gets me going again, though - whew! Stupid Optiplex 320!) -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Kent West wrote: I've just discovered that upgrading from the 2.6.18-6-686 kernel to the 2.6.24-1-686 re-introduces a hang-up on booting. D'oh! (choosing the old 2.6.18 kernel from lilo gets me going again, though - whew! Stupid Optiplex 320!) This might not matter, but can you verify that with new kernel, the root variable is being set as expected in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? I have had some problems in the past when a kernel upgrade used to change the root partition. Solution was to fix it in the kopt argument in menu.lst. Worth a shot, since I find it a bit strange that it won't work with a new kernel when it worked with 2.6.18. -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
H.S. wrote: Kent West wrote: I've just discovered that upgrading from the 2.6.18-6-686 kernel to the 2.6.24-1-686 re-introduces a hang-up on booting. D'oh! (choosing the old 2.6.18 kernel from lilo gets me going again, though - whew! Stupid Optiplex 320!) This might not matter, but can you verify that with new kernel, the root variable is being set as expected in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? Except he's using LILO and not Grub. But Kent might want to make sure everything in /etc/lilo.conf looks right. Congratulations on getting it going at all :) - chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Chris Burkhardt wrote: Except he's using LILO and not Grub. But Kent might want to make sure everything in /etc/lilo.conf looks right. Congratulations on getting it going at all :) Ah! My bad, I missed that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Kent West wrote: Chris Burkhardt wrote: I may be misunderstanding, but when the grub menu comes up can you not press 'e' to edit. If so select kernel line and press 'e' again and add option there. Hit the 'Return' key and then 'b' to boot. No, there's not so much as a grub menu; it's like the grub menu has been pre-told which option to boot from, so there's no option for the user to over-ride the installer's choices. I was hoping someone knew a hot-key (like the left-shift (IIRC) in LILO when it's been instructed not to wait for user interaction) to bring the menu up. Display the menu by pressing ESC before it boots: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#hiddenmenu Ah, that looks like what I need. I'll be able to try it Monday. Nope. So, it looks like whoever wrote the goodbye-microsoft.com script bypassed that option somehow. So I reckon I'll give up on this method. Thanks anyway! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS to the most recent version, hoping that'd help. I had that problem last year with my workstation which is a Dell Optitlex 320. I succeeded a Debian installation with the use of a usb key for the installation. In the end, the only working solution was using Lilo. Grub is not functionnal at all (I didn't try Grub2). In order to boot correctly I use those options : nolapic noapic acpi=off irqpoll -- Nicolas S. aka moSaN signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS to the most recent version, hoping that'd help. The best solution I've seen so far is to use this line at the installer's (Etch, I believe) LILO prompt: boot: install pci=nomsi That gets me farther than anything else I've tried, but when it tries to find the CD-ROM, it can't find the drive. (Apparently there's something really mucky about the SATA controller on this particular model of Dell.) So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? (Wow! I never thought I'd consider a Dell to be absolute cr*p, but this is it.) Thanks! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
2008/6/20 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. And I've just spent a day and a half trying to find a version of Windows that would install on it so I could update the BIOS to the most recent version, hoping that'd help. The best solution I've seen so far is to use this line at the installer's (Etch, I believe) LILO prompt: boot: install pci=nomsi That gets me farther than anything else I've tried, but when it tries to find the CD-ROM, it can't find the drive. (Apparently there's something really mucky about the SATA controller on this particular model of Dell.) So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. Anyone have any suggestions? (Wow! I never thought I'd consider a Dell to be absolute cr*p, but this is it.) Thanks! -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com I may be misunderstanding, but when the grub menu comes up can you not press 'e' to edit. If so select kernel line and press 'e' again and add option there. Hit the 'Return' key and then 'b' to boot. -- rob http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=82BS4ZCMFR1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Robin wrote: 2008/6/20 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Apparently the Dell Optiplex 320 is one odd piece of computer; the 'Net is full of people having trouble installing Linux on it. snip So I tried going the route of doing a network install via http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com, but it installs grub and doesn't give me any option to feed the pci=nomsi parameter (or any other similar parameters); I've been unable to find a way to force this grub install to let me add boot arguments. I may be misunderstanding, but when the grub menu comes up can you not press 'e' to edit. If so select kernel line and press 'e' again and add option there. Hit the 'Return' key and then 'b' to boot. No, there's not so much as a grub menu; it's like the grub menu has been pre-told which option to boot from, so there's no option for the user to over-ride the installer's choices. I was hoping someone knew a hot-key (like the left-shift (IIRC) in LILO when it's been instructed not to wait for user interaction) to bring the menu up. -- Kent West http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?
Chris Burkhardt wrote: I may be misunderstanding, but when the grub menu comes up can you not press 'e' to edit. If so select kernel line and press 'e' again and add option there. Hit the 'Return' key and then 'b' to boot. No, there's not so much as a grub menu; it's like the grub menu has been pre-told which option to boot from, so there's no option for the user to over-ride the installer's choices. I was hoping someone knew a hot-key (like the left-shift (IIRC) in LILO when it's been instructed not to wait for user interaction) to bring the menu up. Display the menu by pressing ESC before it boots: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#hiddenmenu Ah, that looks like what I need. I'll be able to try it Monday. Thanks! -- Kent West Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
