Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 03:18:00PM -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bannister) writes: Folders are simply subdirectories inside the main maildir whose names start with a period, and which are themselves maildirs. For example, the command maildirmake -f Drafts mail/Maildir creates mail/Maildir/.Drafts, that has the usual tmp, new and cur. You MUST use the -f option, instead of specifying mail/Maildir/.Drafts directly, in order to correctly initialize certain enhanced maildir features. I have always just created the maildirs using the command maildirmake Maildir/.Drafts without any problems. Totally forgot about the -f option I always find that I need a folder *after* I've fired up my MUA, so I just use it to make my folders. In mutt s=newfolder_name/ A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IMAP Mail server question
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always find that I need a folder *after* I've fired up my MUA, so I just use it to make my folders. In mutt s=newfolder_name/ If you want maildir folder, then you should probably set mbox_type=Maildir, otherwise I think it defaults to mbox -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 11:21:56AM -0800, John L Fjellstad wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always find that I need a folder *after* I've fired up my MUA, so I just use it to make my folders. In mutt s=newfolder_name/ If you want maildir folder, then you should probably set mbox_type=Maildir, otherwise I think it defaults to mbox yes. sorry I neglected to mention that. Don't need the trailing slash either... A -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 11:54:11PM +, Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 22:43 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
There is one(?) caveat though. Don't create your Maildir directory by
hand. USE the maildirmake program and then create your mailboxes using
the -f switch of maildirmake. Believe me, it can save you lots of grief.
Otherwise courier-imap-ssl works out of the box.
Why?
I dunno. I tried doing it manually and mutt wouldn't see it.
I suppose courier-imap needs a special layout.
Must be something to do with INBOX being virtual.
$ ls -al Maildir/
total 116
drwx-- 27 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 09:30 .
drwxr-xr-x 88 chrisb chrisb 8192 2007-03-07 02:46 ..
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 09:44 .IN-Chess-L
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 07:55 .IN-Personal
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 09:30 .IN-Peter
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 09:30 .IN-crafty
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-04 16:12 .IN-debian-amd64
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-04 14:23 .IN-debian-devel
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-04 13:25 .IN-debian-devel-announce
[..]
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-04 14:22 .IN-ding
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-04 14:18 .IN-fvwm
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-04 13:27 .IN-mutt
drwx-- 6 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 09:44 .IN-slrn
drwx-- 2 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 07:55 courierimapkeywords
-rw-r--r-- 1 chrisb chrisb 15 2007-03-01 07:55 courierimapuiddb
drwx-- 2 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 07:44 cur
drwx-- 2 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-01 07:44 new
drwx-- 2 chrisb chrisb 4096 2007-03-07 02:35 tmp
from man maildirmake
[..]
Folders are simply subdirectories inside the main maildir whose names
start with a period, and which are themselves maildirs. For example,
thecommandmaildirmake-f Drafts mail/Maildir creates
mail/Maildir/.Drafts, that has the usual tmp, new and cur. You MUST
use the -f option, instead of specifying mail/Maildir/.Drafts directly,
in order to correctly initialize certain enhanced maildir features.
Folders cannot be created directly within other folders. Running
maildirmake -f Urgent mail/Maildir/.Drafts will not work. Instead, the
period character is designated as a hierarchy separator, run
maildirmake -f Drafts.Urgent mail/Maildir instead. This creates
mail/Maildir/.Drafts.Urgent, and all mail software that supports
enhanced maildirs will interpret it as a subfolder Urgent of the Drafts
folder.
-- end snippet from man maildirmake --
-- snippet from .mailfilter --
DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/.IN-Personal/
###
#Filter debian-user list messages #
###
if (/^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/)
{
to $HOME/Maildir/.IN-debian-user/
}
-- end snippet from .mailfilter --
Couldn't get it work with
[..]
to $HOME/Maildir/INBOX.IN-debian-user/
[..]
Which I'd seen other in other posts.
Must be something to do with INBOX being virtual.
Comments appreciated.
--
Chris.
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Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to
etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once
etch goes stable.
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Re: IMAP Mail server question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bannister) writes: Folders are simply subdirectories inside the main maildir whose names start with a period, and which are themselves maildirs. For example, the command maildirmake -f Drafts mail/Maildir creates mail/Maildir/.Drafts, that has the usual tmp, new and cur. You MUST use the -f option, instead of specifying mail/Maildir/.Drafts directly, in order to correctly initialize certain enhanced maildir features. I have always just created the maildirs using the command maildirmake Maildir/.Drafts without any problems. Totally forgot about the -f option -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 01:25:13AM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 07:56 -0700, Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. There's really very little difference. Dovecot is supposedly a little faster, but if you reached the point where that becomes an issue you need to look at cyrus anyway. Haven't done Dovecot on Debian (do it all the time on RHEL tho). For Courier, just apt-get install courier-imap (I think that's the package name). There's nothing to configure unless you want to use virtual users/domains and/or ldap/mysq. Plenty of good documentation about that on the web. There is one(?) caveat though. Don't create your Maildir directory by hand. USE the maildirmake program and then create your mailboxes using the -f switch of maildirmake. Believe me, it can save you lots of grief. Otherwise courier-imap-ssl works out of the box. -- Chris. == Don't forget to check that your /etc/apt/sources.lst entries point to etch and not testing, otherwise you may end up with a broken system once etch goes stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 22:43 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: There is one(?) caveat though. Don't create your Maildir directory by hand. USE the maildirmake program and then create your mailboxes using the -f switch of maildirmake. Believe me, it can save you lots of grief. Otherwise courier-imap-ssl works out of the box. Why? I've only ever had permission issues when creating them by hand, but that was due to my own sloppyness. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 07:56 -0700, Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. There's really very little difference. Dovecot is supposedly a little faster, but if you reached the point where that becomes an issue you need to look at cyrus anyway. Haven't done Dovecot on Debian (do it all the time on RHEL tho). For Courier, just apt-get install courier-imap (I think that's the package name). There's nothing to configure unless you want to use virtual users/domains and/or ldap/mysq. Plenty of good documentation about that on the web. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 01:25:13AM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: Haven't done Dovecot on Debian (do it all the time on RHEL tho). For Courier, just apt-get install courier-imap (I think that's the package name). There's nothing to configure unless you want to use virtual users/domains and/or ldap/mysq. Plenty of good documentation about that on the web. Also, don't forget courier-imap-ssl. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
IMAP Mail server question
Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. Thanks Kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 08:56, Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. What is the purpose/scale of your proposed mail server? Dovecot is supposed to be faster/more efficient, but both should be adequate until you get A Whole Lot of users. And then you use Cyrus. Thanks Kelly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5aBxS9HxQb37XmcRAvDQAJ43wKVtxIccK69yrH03TaAgl9s/BgCgzLLJ CH8dSPUWhHakhR4ilFAAWeU= =JbQ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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2007/2/28, Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. Disclaimer: - I have no experience with dovecot - I have used only the basic functionality of courier-IMAP courier-IMAP was easy to install and setup works fine with many users accessing the same maildir about 20 maildirs in a low spec server. Hundreds of folders per maildir with some of them having up to 3 emails With outlook express I have some problems now and then that get fixed by doing a clear local cache on OE. Only once had a problem with thunderbird (started constantly complaining that it could not save the email it just sent to the INBOX folder while at the same time it HAD saved it). Worked around this annoyance and didn't try to fix it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:32:01AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/28/07 08:56, Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. What is the purpose/scale of your proposed mail server? Dovecot is supposed to be faster/more efficient, but both should be adequate until you get A Whole Lot of users. And then you use Cyrus. I use dovecot and its simple and works. But I've only got 5 users on my system. But it seems fast and I've had no problems. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: UNS: IMAP Mail server question
Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. I have no experience with Courier, but I use Dovecot on Maildirs here with OpenLDAP for auth, talking to Squirrelmail and assorted IMAP(S) clients. Thus far, it Just Works(tm). As a data point, du -hs on the biggest Maildir is 4.7G. S -- Steff Davies, Network Sysadmin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: 020 7501 1916 m: 07771 887 366 skype: steffandavies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ??: IMAP Mail server question
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:29:22PM +0200, Nick Demou wrote: courier-IMAP was easy to install and setup works fine with many users accessing the same maildir about 20 maildirs in a low spec server. Hundreds of folders per maildir with some of them having up to 3 emails With outlook express I have some problems now and then that get fixed by doing a clear local cache on OE. Only once had a problem with thunderbird (started constantly complaining that it could not save the email it just sent to the INBOX folder while at the same time it HAD saved it). Worked around this annoyance and didn't try to fix it The main gotcha with Courier, is that by default it only allows 4 connections per IP, but T-bird tries to make 5. You can fix that in either place (probably the server if you have lots of users). Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IMAP Mail server question
We are looking at about 100 users connected at our office. There will also be about 30 or so sites w/email hosted for our agents. in total about 200 users or so. Thanks Kelly Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/07 08:56, Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. What is the purpose/scale of your proposed mail server? Dovecot is supposed to be faster/more efficient, but both should be adequate until you get A Whole Lot of users. And then you use Cyrus. Thanks Kelly -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF5aBxS9HxQb37XmcRAvDQAJ43wKVtxIccK69yrH03TaAgl9s/BgCgzLLJ CH8dSPUWhHakhR4ilFAAWeU= =JbQ2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ??: IMAP Mail server question
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 11:17 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:29:22PM +0200, Nick Demou wrote: courier-IMAP was easy to install and setup works fine with many users accessing the same maildir about 20 maildirs in a low spec server. Hundreds of folders per maildir with some of them having up to 3 emails With outlook express I have some problems now and then that get fixed by doing a clear local cache on OE. Only once had a problem with thunderbird (started constantly complaining that it could not save the email it just sent to the INBOX folder while at the same time it HAD saved it). Worked around this annoyance and didn't try to fix it The main gotcha with Courier, is that by default it only allows 4 connections per IP, but T-bird tries to make 5. You can fix that in either place (probably the server if you have lots of users). I've change the number of connections from a single IP to 75, especially when running X-Terminal supporting 10+ people at the same time. Usually it just works otherwise. The only thing I have to change is causing exim4 to use $HOMEDIR/Maildir delivery vs. /var/spool/mail. And this bit about not being able to handle large amounts of mail? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ du -ks Maildir/ 313998560 Maildir/ All served up via courier-imap-ssl. Hope that clears it up. Also, I've scaled courier-imap upto ~700 users with ~100 continuous users accessing, using a single processor with 4G of memory, a single FC SCSI card to a SAN. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
