Re: Joiner para Linux
El Lunes, 24 de Noviembre de 2008 11:43 AM, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El día 24 de noviembre de 2008 12:33, Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Buenas, estoy buscando un joiner que me sirva para juntar archivos y que al menos uno de ellos pueda ejecutarse sin problemas. Es para juntar un documento con otro archivo, de modo que fuese imposible de descargar por el peso (esto lo junto con otras configuraciones en el sistema que hacen complicado el poder conseguir la información). cat archivo1 archivo2 archivounido cat archivo2 archivo1 o mejor: cat archivo1 archivo2 ... archivon archivounido man cat: NAME cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output con cat se puede hacer pero ojo yo lo he hecho y aveces se genera errores por el tamaño del archivo yo cat lo uso mas que todo para unir informaciones que estan en txt cuando uso archivos como una pelicula y un txt aveces genera resultados inesperados pero siempre te sale como lo concatenastes con cat... primero el contenido del primer archivo y luego el segundo ojo de acuerdo a tu ram unelo a un archivo que no te vaya de desbordar tu memoria ya que los editores de texto cargan el texto a la memoria ram si tienes 512mb y has hecho la unión con un archivo de 3gb podre pc lo que le espera cuando le des abrir a dicho archivo solo es una recomendación pero si tienes 4 gb de ram que mas unelo y ya... por cierto señores de la lista quien ha visto un ¡PC! con 8 gb de ram? yo a un amigo se lo vi es un pc tuning lo usa para juegos de alta definición y lo que mas me impresiono si es un pc para casi puro juego le tenia instalado kubuntu y emulaba los juegos de guindows y le corren a toda mier. primera vez que veo un GNU/linux dedicado al juego como ese jejejejjee solo quería dar mi impresión sobre lo que vi en la lista -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner para Linux
El 25 de noviembre de 2008 17:09, alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED]escribió: por cierto señores de la lista quien ha visto un ¡PC! con 8 gb de ram? yo a un amigo se lo vi es un pc tuning lo usa para juegos de alta definición y lo que mas me impresiono si es un pc para casi puro juego le tenia instalado kubuntu y emulaba los juegos de guindows y le corren a toda mier. primera vez que veo un GNU/linux dedicado al juego como ese jejejejjee solo quería dar mi impresión sobre lo que vi en la lista Si si, he leido que algunos juegos de windows corren mejor en wine que en su propia plataforma. Cosa e mandinga Imagina correr los mejores juegos de windows y PS3 en linux... Claro, hay que tener un fierrito de esos... Bah, los mejores son los del xmame !!!
Re: [OT] Steganography [WAS] Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 06:10:34PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Celejar wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:45:28 -0600 Mark Allums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feasibility-wise, it's really anybody's guess whether information can remain hidden. I see no reason to use steganographic techniques, except to hide something from an authority.[*] In theory, it should be possible to detect hidden content in anything, due to the added complexity of the hidden content. In practice, it has been becoming easier to do so. Reading the information is a different matter. However, once it has been realized you are hiding something, the point is moot. You will be hounded until you give up the hidden information. The authority in question will not give up, ever. Unless you can convince everyone to, for example, run their systems encrypted. This way, spare disk space will always look suspicious (since it will be encrypted _something_, even if that something is straight zeros). Ideally, you'd have two pieces of plain text embedded in a single piece of ciphertext (which is hidden so that it hopefully won't be found in the first place). If you _do_ have to give up the password for it, all the authority gets is something that is mildly embarrasing (and hense plausible to be the plain-text) but not the plain text which you are really trying to protect. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joiner para Linux
Buenas, estoy buscando un joiner que me sirva para juntar archivos y que al menos uno de ellos pueda ejecutarse sin problemas. Es para juntar un documento con otro archivo, de modo que fuese imposible de descargar por el peso (esto lo junto con otras configuraciones en el sistema que hacen complicado el poder conseguir la información). Muchísimas gracias por ayudarme. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner para Linux
El día 24 de noviembre de 2008 12:33, Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Buenas, estoy buscando un joiner que me sirva para juntar archivos y que al menos uno de ellos pueda ejecutarse sin problemas. Es para juntar un documento con otro archivo, de modo que fuese imposible de descargar por el peso (esto lo junto con otras configuraciones en el sistema que hacen complicado el poder conseguir la información). cat archivo1 archivo2 archivounido cat archivo2 archivo1 o mejor: cat archivo1 archivo2 ... archivon archivounido man cat: NAME cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output
Re: Joiner para Linux
No sirve, ya que después el documento es imposible de abrir, pero gracias por la ayuda. Saludos. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 13:13 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El día 24 de noviembre de 2008 12:33, Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Buenas, estoy buscando un joiner que me sirva para juntar archivos y que al menos uno de ellos pueda ejecutarse sin problemas. Es para juntar un documento con otro archivo, de modo que fuese imposible de descargar por el peso (esto lo junto con otras configuraciones en el sistema que hacen complicado el poder conseguir la información). cat archivo1 archivo2 archivounido cat archivo2 archivo1 o mejor: cat archivo1 archivo2 ... archivon archivounido man cat: NAME cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner para Linux
Lo siento, no lo he dicho. Necesito un joiner para un docuemento .odb de openoffice. Gracias por el link, le voy a echar un ojo. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 12:13 -0430, Muammar El Khatib escribió: Hola, Manuel Gomez wrote: No sirve, ya que después el documento es imposible de abrir, pero gracias por la ayuda. Como no se qué formato son los archivos que piensas unir, te envío este link de una aplicación que se llama dalle. This projects aims to build a set of utilities to work with splitted files in various formats. Supported formats at the moment are: hacha (1,2 and pro), kamaleon (1 and 2), Astrotite, Camouflage, FileSplit, SplitFile... http://sourceforge.net/projects/dalle/ Este paquete no está en Debian, pero ellos proveen un *.deb. Espero que sea de ayuda. Saludos, -- Muammar El Khatib. Linux user: 403107. Key fingerprint = 90B8 BFC4 4A75 B881 39A3 1440 30EB 403B 1270 29F1 http://muammar.me | http://proyectociencia.org | http://taciturna.com ,''`. : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner para Linux
El 24 de noviembre de 2008 14:40, Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: No sirve, ya que después el documento es imposible de abrir, pero gracias por la ayuda. No entiendo bien lo que necesitas. Si concatenas archivos, el formato del archivo cambiara y la aplicacion que lo abre seguramente no lo reconocera. Que tipo de documento es ? Podrias ser mas especifico ?
Re: Joiner para Linux
Hola, Manuel Gomez wrote: No sirve, ya que después el documento es imposible de abrir, pero gracias por la ayuda. Como no se qué formato son los archivos que piensas unir, te envío este link de una aplicación que se llama dalle. This projects aims to build a set of utilities to work with splitted files in various formats. Supported formats at the moment are: hacha (1,2 and pro), kamaleon (1 and 2), Astrotite, Camouflage, FileSplit, SplitFile... http://sourceforge.net/projects/dalle/ Este paquete no está en Debian, pero ellos proveen un *.deb. Espero que sea de ayuda. Saludos, -- Muammar El Khatib. Linux user: 403107. Key fingerprint = 90B8 BFC4 4A75 B881 39A3 1440 30EB 403B 1270 29F1 http://muammar.me | http://proyectociencia.org | http://taciturna.com ,''`. : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner para Linux
2008/11/24 Mario Daniel Carugno [EMAIL PROTECTED] El 24 de noviembre de 2008 14:40, Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED]escribió: No sirve, ya que después el documento es imposible de abrir, pero gracias por la ayuda. No entiendo bien lo que necesitas. Si concatenas archivos, el formato del archivo cambiara y la aplicacion que lo abre seguramente no lo reconocera. Que tipo de documento es ? Podrias ser mas especifico ? Perdon, contestaron mientras escribia este mensaje
Joiner for Linux
I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? Thank you very much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
Manuel Gomez escreveu: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). cat document1 document2 biggerdocument This will joing document1 and document2, producing biggerdocument. However, you will not find a general way to change documents and expect them to continue being readable. This may work for some file types (such as .jpg images, supposedly), but not necessarily for others. -- Eduardo M Kalinowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
Again... I need this type of protection, and though you say is usseless, i am not going to change my opinion. Thank you very much. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 09:32 -0600, Ron Johnson escribió: On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
This method is not plausible, so i am searching a joiner for linux. Sorry for the double posting. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 13:29 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI escribió: Manuel Gomez escreveu: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). cat document1 document2 biggerdocument This will joing document1 and document2, producing biggerdocument. However, you will not find a general way to change documents and expect them to continue being readable. This may work for some file types (such as .jpg images, supposedly), but not necessarily for others. -- Eduardo M Kalinowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
Manuel Gomez escreveu: This method is not plausible, so i am searching a joiner for linux. No matter what the method you use, it will need to resort to adding extra bytes to the end of the file. (Or the beginning, or the middle, but that does not make much difference.) The only way to make a file bigger is to add more bytes to it. However, once you add more data to the file, you are changing it. This way, you cannot expect that programs know that the extra data you added is not to be considered, and they will be confused and you will have varied results. And this has nothing to do with linux, the same situation would happen with any operating system. As others pointed out, you should review your concepts about security. Or explain things more carefully, because based on what you explained, I do not see that as an approach to security. But I might have missed some point. -- Eduardo M Kalinowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On 11/24/08 09:37, Manuel Gomez wrote: This method is not plausible, so i am searching a joiner for linux. We can't help it if you deny reality. Sorry for the double posting. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 13:29 -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI escribió: Manuel Gomez escreveu: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). cat document1 document2 biggerdocument This will joing document1 and document2, producing biggerdocument. However, you will not find a general way to change documents and expect them to continue being readable. This may work for some file types (such as .jpg images, supposedly), but not necessarily for others. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:35:56PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 09:32 -0600, Ron Johnson escribi??: On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. Again... I need this type of protection, and though you say is usseless, i am not going to change my opinion. Thank you very much. That is you choice. However, Don't top post. You asked a question, were given an answer in a thread you didn't like, you started a new thread asking the same question. Get a life. If you want to continue the discussion, stay with the same thread so that those of us who don't want to talk about it further don't waste time opening a new thread on the old topic. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
No comments, if you don't want help, is very simple, please, don't post. And PLEASE, the respect to the others is essential. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 10:44 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty escribió: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:35:56PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 09:32 -0600, Ron Johnson escribi??: On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. Again... I need this type of protection, and though you say is usseless, i am not going to change my opinion. Thank you very much. That is you choice. However, Don't top post. You asked a question, were given an answer in a thread you didn't like, you started a new thread asking the same question. Get a life. If you want to continue the discussion, stay with the same thread so that those of us who don't want to talk about it further don't waste time opening a new thread on the old topic. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On 11/24/08 10:30, Manuel Gomez wrote: No comments, if you don't want help, is very simple, please, don't post. And PLEASE, the respect to the others is essential. [snip] Don't top post. You asked a question, were given an answer in a thread you didn't like, you started a new thread asking the same question. Get a life. If you want to continue the discussion, stay with the same thread so that those of us who don't want to talk about it further don't waste time opening a new thread on the old topic. Someone is swimming in a large Egyptian river... -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree with me, you are worse than Hitler!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No comments, if you don't want help, is very simple, please, don't post. And PLEASE, the respect to the others is essential. Speaking of respect, it's against policy on this list to CC someone if they don't ask for it. (Now you know.) As for your question, you asked for help to improve your security by joining a file. You were told this would not improve your security and you shouldn't do it. People are giving you the help you need; it's just not the help you asked for. Also, you said: I am not creating a trojan or something Don't say that. It sounds suspicious, and will probably decrease your chances of getting help. Good luck. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 10:44 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty escribió: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:35:56PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 09:32 -0600, Ron Johnson escribi??: On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. Again... I need this type of protection, and though you say is usseless, i am not going to change my opinion. Thank you very much. That is you choice. However, Don't top post. You asked a question, were given an answer in a thread you didn't like, you started a new thread asking the same question. Get a life. If you want to continue the discussion, stay with the same thread so that those of us who don't want to talk about it further don't waste time opening a new thread on the old topic. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
Manuel, Please respect the list Code of Conduct and don't send me email directly. I agree that respecting others is essential. Please do so. Doug. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 05:30:57PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: No comments, if you don't want help, is very simple, please, don't post. And PLEASE, the respect to the others is essential. El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 10:44 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty escribi??: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:35:56PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 09:32 -0600, Ron Johnson escribi??: On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. Again... I need this type of protection, and though you say is usseless, i am not going to change my opinion. Thank you very much. That is you choice. However, Don't top post. You asked a question, were given an answer in a thread you didn't like, you started a new thread asking the same question. Get a life. If you want to continue the discussion, stay with the same thread so that those of us who don't want to talk about it further don't waste time opening a new thread on the old topic. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manuel Gomez wrote: No comments, if you don't want help, is very simple, please, don't post. And PLEASE, the respect to the others is essential. If you want someone else to help you, *you* should respect the others. Please follow list policies [1]. Please don't top post. Please don't cross post (different mailing lists) and don't double post (on the same mailing list). Thanks, Johannes [1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkq3DQACgkQC1NzPRl9qEWDCACfe4hIGWSsKEb62MBpfHjxTsr8 UmAAnis3f4SdkFo0HTm1vO89681zmfuo =Vq7J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:25:12 +0100 Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. Hi Manuel What tools you are using on Windows for that purpose? kind regards Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:25:12 +0100 Manuel Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am glad that such kind of attacks doesn't (yet) exist in Linux land ;-) == Wikipedia == File binders are applications that allow a user to bind executables together resulting in a single executable. They are useful for hackers to insert other applications such as Trojan horse executables into otherwise harmless files. kind regards Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:25:12PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. What type of document? What type of archive? I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? At least for some specific document formats it should be trivial. e.g. an ODT document is technically a ZIP archive. I don't think that the standard says anything about extra files in that archive (or maybe there is a reserved name space for extra files to add). Various formats allow you to add comment section or something similar. There are even tools such as steghide for those who want to do things as useless as hiding information inside an image. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
Thank you for the responses, the document is openoffice (.odb), and i usually use SFX compiler for Windows, but the result doesn't works in Linux. I only need that the document can be readable and writable, only this. Thank you very much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Steganography [WAS] Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:17:07 + Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There are even tools such as steghide for those who want to do things as useless as hiding information inside an image. I'm curious; why is that necessarily useless? I now that many steganography methods are broken, in the sense that there are methods to detect their use and possibly even recover the hidden information, but why is the concept inherently useless? Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 04:35:56PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote: El lun, 24-11-2008 a las 09:32 -0600, Ron Johnson escribi??: On 11/24/08 09:25, Manuel Gomez wrote: I am searching a joiner for Linux. I need to join an document with another archive, and i want can open the document without problems. I am not creating a trojan or something, its for add size to specific documents (security- If the document have 5 kbs it takes 5 sec download it, but if the document have 500 mb it takes a couple of days, and i turn off the connection constantly. Believe me, for me is usefull). Somebody could help me? You asked the same question yesterday, and were told then why what you wanted to do was not needed. Again... I need this type of protection, and though you say is usseless, i am not going to change my opinion. Thank you very much. That is you choice. However, Don't top post. You asked a question, were given an answer in a thread you didn't like, you started a new thread asking the same question. Get a life. If you want to continue the discussion, stay with the same thread so that those of us who don't want to talk about it further don't waste time opening a new thread on the old topic. Doug. I think you want an archiver. tar and gzip (or bzip). Join the files, then separate them again later to use them. You can't expect to universally be able to tar files, then use them while tar'ed. I'm afraid this is the best you can expect. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Steganography [WAS] Re: Joiner for Linux
Celejar wrote: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are even tools such as steghide for those who want to do things as useless as hiding information inside an image. I'm curious; why is that necessarily useless? I now that many steganography methods are broken, in the sense that there are methods to detect their use and possibly even recover the hidden information, but why is the concept inherently useless? Not totally or inherently useless, but not very practical. You would still need encryption as well as information hiding, so the only use for it is to try and hide the fact that you are hiding something. That is very hard to do. You may thank your friendly neighborhood statistician for that. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Steganography [WAS] Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:45:28 -0600 Mark Allums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are even tools such as steghide for those who want to do things as useless as hiding information inside an image. I'm curious; why is that necessarily useless? I now that many steganography methods are broken, in the sense that there are methods to detect their use and possibly even recover the hidden information, but why is the concept inherently useless? Not totally or inherently useless, but not very practical. You would still need encryption as well as information hiding, so the only use for it is to try and hide the fact that you are hiding something. That is very hard to do. You may thank your friendly neighborhood statistician for that. I am aware that encryption is still required; steganography will commonly be used in concert with encryption. As to the feasibility of detecting steganography, there is a fair amount of work on the subject, e.g.: http://www.jjtc.com/Steganalysis/ http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1684 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography http://www.guillermito2.net/stegano/ And see the references in the Wikipedia article. Mark Allums Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Joiner for Linux
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 06:39:28PM +0100, Manuel Gomez wrote:
Thank you for the responses, the document is openoffice (.odb), and i
usually use SFX compiler for Windows, but the result doesn't works in
Linux.
I only need that the document can be readable and writable, only this.
Thank you very much.
As I mentioned, it is technically a zip archive.
You can generally use any program that can manipulate zip archives.
$ unzip -l /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/en-US/internal/idxexample.odt
Archive: /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/en-US/internal/idxexample.odt
Length Date TimeName
39 09-23-05 14:27 mimetype
0 09-23-05 14:27 Configurations2/
19072 09-23-05 14:27 Pictures/2084192312C2580E2C7B.wmf
90 09-23-05 14:27 layout-cache
10727 09-23-05 14:27 content.xml
10148 09-23-05 14:27 styles.xml
1102 09-23-05 14:27 meta.xml
449 09-23-05 14:27 Thumbnails/thumbnail.png
8412 09-23-05 14:27 settings.xml
1287 09-23-05 14:27 META-INF/manifest.xml
---
51326 10 files
Use zip or your favorite zip graphical interface to add files or edit
its content in whatever way you like.
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Re: [OT] Steganography [WAS] Re: Joiner for Linux
Celejar wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:45:28 -0600 Mark Allums [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: detect [steganography] use and possibly even recover the hidden information, but why is the concept inherently useless? Not totally or inherently useless, but not very practical. You would still need encryption as well as information hiding, so the only use for it is to try and hide the fact that you are hiding something. That is very hard to do. You may thank your friendly neighborhood statistician for that. I am aware that encryption is still required; steganography will commonly be used in concert with encryption. As to the feasibility of detecting steganography, Not really apropos of anything, but the encryption remark is just a reminder. I would expect anyone to know that who spent much time thinking about the subject. Feasibility-wise, it's really anybody's guess whether information can remain hidden. I see no reason to use steganographic techniques, except to hide something from an authority.[*] In theory, it should be possible to detect hidden content in anything, due to the added complexity of the hidden content. In practice, it has been becoming easier to do so. Reading the information is a different matter. However, once it has been realized you are hiding something, the point is moot. You will be hounded until you give up the hidden information. The authority in question will not give up, ever. Mark Allums (*) Perhaps I am ignorant of the subject. But I can only think of hiding info from, (1.) A government or police investigation. (2.) An employer (3.) A(n) (ex-)significant other, or stalker (4.) You are a purveyor of malware, hiding your product from the user. (5.) You are a student, hiding mp3s from the RIAA. If there exist other reasons for the deception, I am sure you will enlighten me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
