Re: debian kde kdm
El Mon, 18 Apr 2016 20:17:29 -0300, Ricardo Delgado escribió: > buenas, despues de mucho tiempo decidi probar KDE en una pc, instale > kde-full pero para mi sorpresa, no encuentro el gestor grafico KDM. > > Quizas estoy un poco alejado de estos entornos mas pesados (vengo > utilizando OPENBOX) > > La consulta puntual es: existe aun kdm en testing? debo agregar algun > repositorio extra? (...) KDM no está en testing porque el paquete fuente del que depende (el que lo genera) no está en testing (kde-workspaces). Y confirmando lo que te comentan los dos Sergios, KDE 5 ha optado por sddm: SDDM Is The Recommended Display Manager Of KDE Plasma 5 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=MTgyOTU Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: debian kde kdm
El 18/04/16 a las 21:21, sergiogo...@tostado.com.ar escribió: El 2016-04-18 20:17, Ricardo Delgado escribió: buenas, despues de mucho tiempo decidi probar KDE en una pc, instale kde-full pero para mi sorpresa, no encuentro el gestor grafico KDM. Seguramente se instaló sddm en lugar de kdm, Yo estoy en este momento con la rama stable y por ahora está kdm, pero en la version sid que estuve utilizando hasta hace unos días, al instalar kde, se instalaba sddm. Saludos. Sergio Si es la rama Testing o Sid Es Plasma, y Plasma usa sddm. Saludos -- Sergio Bessopeanetto Buenos Aires - Argentina
Re: debian kde kdm
El 2016-04-18 20:17, Ricardo Delgado escribió: buenas, despues de mucho tiempo decidi probar KDE en una pc, instale kde-full pero para mi sorpresa, no encuentro el gestor grafico KDM. Seguramente se instaló sddm en lugar de kdm, Yo estoy en este momento con la rama stable y por ahora está kdm, pero en la version sid que estuve utilizando hasta hace unos días, al instalar kde, se instalaba sddm. Saludos. Sergio
debian kde kdm
buenas, despues de mucho tiempo decidi probar KDE en una pc, instale kde-full pero para mi sorpresa, no encuentro el gestor grafico KDM. Quizas estoy un poco alejado de estos entornos mas pesados (vengo utilizando OPENBOX) La consulta puntual es: existe aun kdm en testing? debo agregar algun repositorio extra? # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.5.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 lxde-CD Binary-1 20140426-12:26]/ wheezy main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.5.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 lxde-CD Binary-1 20140426-12:26]/ wheezy main #deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main ## Debian Testing deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free ## Actualizaciones de seguridad deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free #multimedia deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free ## Depôt MultiSystem #deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main Saludos -- "Windows? Reboot Debian? beRoot "
Re: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails
Deepak Kumar Tripathi wrote: Hi First check your mirror. use apt-get dist-upgrade and after install kde Deepak Tripathi ..---. Open Source Developer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@./ /`\_/`\ ..''`. // _ \\ : :' :| \ )|_ `. `'`/`\_` _/ \ `- \__/'---'\__/ Debian GNU/Linux -Original Message- From: S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/26/2006 10:00 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 26 September 2006 03:32, RParr wrote: I have installed Debian using etch installer b-3 (daily snapshot) and then upgraded to sid (and added contrib, non-free to my repositories). I installed as web-server, file-server, sql-server. I did not install desktop. I was (finally) able to get basic X installed (by wacking the xserver-xorg postinst per the bug report) # apt-get install x-window-system-core but have not been able to install KDE (for about 3 days now). # apt-get install kde kdm The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kde-core (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kde-amusements (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeaddons (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdepim (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Is this just a matter of waiting for the repositories to come back in sync or am I missing something here. if possible, please wait, or check if any other package making this problem. If just waiting, any idea of when things should be installable? i was also in this kind of problem. and got fixed within 2 day :) Still the same. # deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free # deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main - I originally used mirrors.kernel.org. Now, with ftp.debian.org, (and ftp.us.debian.org), same errors. Do I have the correct sources.list to install KDE? Any ideas? R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails
I have installed Debian using etch installer b-3 (daily snapshot) and then upgraded to sid (and added contrib, non-free to my repositories). I installed as web-server, file-server, sql-server. I did not install desktop. I was (finally) able to get basic X installed (by wacking the xserver-xorg postinst per the bug report) # apt-get install x-window-system-core but have not been able to install KDE (for about 3 days now). # apt-get install kde kdm The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kde-core (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kde-amusements (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeaddons (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdepim (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Is this just a matter of waiting for the repositories to come back in sync or am I missing something here. If just waiting, any idea of when things should be installable? Thanks R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 26 September 2006 03:32, RParr wrote: I have installed Debian using etch installer b-3 (daily snapshot) and then upgraded to sid (and added contrib, non-free to my repositories). I installed as web-server, file-server, sql-server. I did not install desktop. I was (finally) able to get basic X installed (by wacking the xserver-xorg postinst per the bug report) # apt-get install x-window-system-core but have not been able to install KDE (for about 3 days now). # apt-get install kde kdm The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kde-core (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kde-amusements (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeaddons (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdepim (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Is this just a matter of waiting for the repositories to come back in sync or am I missing something here. if possible, please wait, or check if any other package making this problem. If just waiting, any idea of when things should be installable? i was also in this kind of problem. and got fixed within 2 day :) Thanks R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts - -- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) Home page: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.tk Yahoo!! ID: lavluda MSN ID: lavluda Skype : lavluda gpg key: A9910F9E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFGKzdzpD0S6mRD54RAm5JAKCOc0op4KhAEbu81KJZt4O0SD15kgCfVSTa Bqj05ODXMhMhGldaiGCiuMg= =s8C4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails
Title: RE: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails Hi First check your mirror. use apt-get dist-upgrade and after install kde Deepak Tripathi ..---. Open Source Developer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]@./ /`\_/`\ ..''`. // _ \\ : :' : | \ )|_ `. `'` /`\_` _/ \ `- \__/'---'\__/ Debian GNU/Linux -Original Message- From: S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue 9/26/2006 10:00 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: (sid) apt-get install kde kdm fails -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 26 September 2006 03:32, RParr wrote: I have installed Debian using etch installer b-3 (daily snapshot) and then upgraded to sid (and added contrib, non-free to my repositories). I installed as web-server, file-server, sql-server. I did not install desktop. I was (finally) able to get basic X installed (by wacking the xserver-xorg postinst per the bug report) # apt-get install x-window-system-core but have not been able to install KDE (for about 3 days now). # apt-get install kde kdm The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kde-core (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kde-amusements (= 5:47) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeaddons (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdepim (= 4:3.4.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Is this just a matter of waiting for the repositories to come back in sync or am I missing something here. if possible, please wait, or check if any other package making this problem. If just waiting, any idea of when things should be installable? i was also in this kind of problem. and got fixed within 2 day :) Thanks R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts - -- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) Home page: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.tk Yahoo!! ID: lavluda MSN ID: lavluda Skype : lavluda gpg key: A9910F9E -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFGKzdzpD0S6mRD54RAm5JAKCOc0op4KhAEbu81KJZt4O0SD15kgCfVSTa Bqj05ODXMhMhGldaiGCiuMg= =s8C4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in, or attached to, this e-mail, contains confidential information and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed and is subject to legal privilege. If you have received this e-mail in error you should notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail, delete the message from your system and notify your system manager. Please do not copy it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any other person. The views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused, directly or indirectly, by any virus transmitted in this email. www.aztecsoft.com
Instalar KDE - kdm y startx
Hola gente, estoy medio mareado con la instalacion de un KDE en un Debian Sargela hice hace un par de meses atras pero ahora en otra maquna me perdi. Yo quiero instalar KDE pero recuerdo que ademas de los paquetes que me muestra como necesarios el apt-get install kde, me dijeron sin mucha seguridad que hace falta xfree86 y Xserver o algo asi. Alguno puede especificarme que paquetes me hace falta para instalar KDE ??? Otra mas: por que en mi PC arranca KDE con el comando kdm en forma normal, y cuando uso startx se ve con otra resolucion de pantalla o sea diferente ??? Gracias A.K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instalar KDE - kdm y startx
El Jueves, 8 de Septiembre de 2005 17:32, Alejandro Kurchis escribió: || Yo quiero instalar KDE pero recuerdo que ademas de los paquetes que me || muestra como necesarios el apt-get install kde, me dijeron sin mucha || seguridad que hace falta xfree86 y Xserver o algo asi. Estoy casi seguro de que si tratas de instalar KDE te instalará también el servidor X (x-window-system), es una dependencia. || Alguno puede especificarme que paquetes me hace falta para instalar KDE lo más fácil: apt-get install kde más manual: apt-get install kde-core (o kde-base, no recuerdo). Y luego añades otras aplicaciones KDE que necesites. -- que a mí ni me va ni me viene... pero por comentar...
Re: Instalar KDE - kdm y startx
On 9/8/05, Alejandro Kurchis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola gente, estoy medio mareado con la instalacion de un KDE en un DebianSargela hice hace un par de meses atras pero ahora en otra maquna meperdi.Yo quiero instalar KDE pero recuerdo que ademas de los paquetes que me muestra como necesarios el apt-get install kde, me dijeron sin muchaseguridad que hace falta xfree86 y Xserver o algo asi.Alguno puede especificarme que paquetes me hace falta para instalar KDE ??? Otra mas: por que en mi PC arranca KDE con el comando kdm en forma normal, ycuando uso startx se ve con otra resolucion de pantalla o sea diferente ???GraciasA.K.--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Más fácil aún: aptitude install kde Te instala las dependencias y paquetes recomendados. Los paquetes necesarios si lo hasces con apt-get install (más o menos) como recuerdo: xserver-xfree86 kdm x-window-system-core kde -- Edgard VelásquezGNU/Linux Registered User #: 388478Debian UserLibertad de pensamiento, libertad de vida, sé libre (GNU/Linux)Podrán quitarnos la vida, pero nunca nuestra libertad (William Wallace)Caracas, Venezuela
Re: Instalar KDE - kdm y startx
hola Hace unos días instalé las x en sarge simplemente con este comando... aptitude install x-window-system kde gnome xfce4 gdm instaló las 3 variantes de x y el gdm (similar al kdm) tras estar bajando paquetes durante mas de dos horas (512/128) terminé de configurar el sistema aceptando el uso de defoma (así luego es más sencillo instalar las msfonts) y configurando las xfree86 mediante el comando... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 en cuanto a las opciones del menú que aparece en el dpkg, dar solo dos apuntes... 1) si tienes un ratón con scroll (rueda entre los dos botones) debes seleccionar... psaux, Explorer ps/2 y aceptar las opciones de raton de 3 botones y que el scroll funcione. suerte con la instalación / configuración :) Aprovecho esta ocasión para plantear una duda personal, se viene diciendo desde hace relativamente poco tiempo que se iva a cambiar el sistema de x-window de xfree86 a xorg, intenté instalarlas en otra deb pero tuve muchos problemas para configurarla correctamente, es decir, el intuitivo dpkg-reconfigure no me permitia configurar las xorg como las xfree, alguien podría guiarme en el proceso de migración a algo totalmente gpl¿? gracias :D un saludo ·n·
Variables de Entorno en KDE-KDM
Hola! Hace unos días migré desde Mandrake a Debian Sid y estoy configurando todo, encontrándome con algunas diferencias que todavía no puedo salvar. El problema que tengo ahora es para configurar una máquina virtual java (la oficial de Sun). La he instalado en /usr/java/, y en Mandrake era suficiente con setear en ~/.bash_profile la variable de entorno PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/bin para que desde la consola o desde cualquier otro lado (KDE), ejecutara la JVM. Ahora en Debian, tengo problemas. Estando en KDE, abro una sesión de konsole, y edito el ~/.bash_profile, agregando el PATH, CLASSPATH y etcéteras que apunten a la JVM. No fue suficiente, porque a pesar de loguearme de nuevo, estas variables no estaban seteadas, y el bash no encontraba el comando 'java'. Buscando un poco, agregué este seteo del PATH en ~/.bashrc y entonces sí, desde el konsole, tipeo 'java', y encuentra la JVM (las variables de entorno están configuradas). Ahora, instalo el Eclipse. Todo perfecto, el problema es que KDE no encuentra el comando 'java' !!! Agrego un link desde el escritorio al Eclipse, y me sale un cartelito gráfico diciendo: Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /home/marcelo/eclipse/jre/bin/java 'java' in your current PATH Busqué, probé, investigué el Mandrake (el KDM), para ver en qué punto ejecuta el /etc/profile, o el ~/.bash_profile... y nada. No puedo encontrar el punto en donde setea las variables para el KDE. En resumen: desde konsole y desde una terminal de texto, las variables de entorno están seteadas. Pero KDE no toma estos seteos. Utilizo KDM, configuré el /etc/profile, el ~/.bash_profile, el ~/.bashrc y el ~/.xsession. Qué tengo que tocar para que el KDE cargue las variables de entorno? Perdon por la longitud del mail Saludos y Gracias Marcelo -- Marcelo F. Fernández Buenos Aires, Argentina Analista de Sistemas - CCNA
Re: Variables de Entorno en KDE-KDM
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 02:29:30PM -0300, Marcelo Fernandez wrote: [...] en referencia a la configuración de JAVA sobre Debian Perdon por la longitud del mail Mirá... yo en éste instante tengo el eclipse abierto con java funcionando y a riesgo de parecer un 'cavernicola' configurando ... te cuento que : bajé el jdk 1.5beta y copié su contenido en /usr/local/java luego hice: drwxr-sr-x9 root staff4096 Apr 8 14:54 java lrwxr-xr-x1 root staff 9 Apr 8 14:55 jre - java/jre/ El eclipse me lo ha tomado bien... aunque edité el archivo /etc/profile [al fin y al cabo quiero que todos los usuarios puedan usarlo] y le agregué en el PATH - PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/java/bin la verdad es que fue 'santo remedio'... estoy compilando y anda todo bastante bien. saludos y suerte! Félix -- Felix Cuello [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 401 - Is this foreplay? No, this is Nuke Strike. Foreplay has lousy graphics. Beat me again. -- Duckert, in Bad Rubber, Albedo #0 (comics)
Re: Variables de Entorno en KDE-KDM
Si, la única diferencia que veo es que lo instalaste en /usr/local en vez de /usr/java como lo hice yo... Yo también modifiqué el /etc/profile, pero sigue siendo inútil para que mi ícono de Eclipse en el escritorio funcione. Un 'hack' que logré (y que funciona) es poner en el comando de ejecución del ícono: 'PATH=/usr/java/bin;/home/marcelo/eclipse/eclipse' (sin las comillas) en vez de solo llamar al eclipse. Pero quiero saber porqué sucede esto... Gracias Marcelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 02:29:30PM -0300, Marcelo Fernandez wrote: [...] en referencia a la configuración de JAVA sobre Debian Perdon por la longitud del mail Mirá... yo en éste instante tengo el eclipse abierto con java funcionando y a riesgo de parecer un 'cavernicola' configurando ... te cuento que : bajé el jdk 1.5beta y copié su contenido en /usr/local/java luego hice: drwxr-sr-x9 root staff4096 Apr 8 14:54 java lrwxr-xr-x1 root staff 9 Apr 8 14:55 jre - java/jre/ El eclipse me lo ha tomado bien... aunque edité el archivo /etc/profile [al fin y al cabo quiero que todos los usuarios puedan usarlo] y le agregué en el PATH - PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/java/bin la verdad es que fue 'santo remedio'... estoy compilando y anda todo bastante bien. saludos y suerte! Félix -- Marcelo F. Fernández Buenos Aires, Argentina Analista de Sistemas - CCNA
Re: Variables de Entorno en KDE-KDM
El dom, 11-04-2004 a las 19:29, Marcelo Fernandez escribió: Hola! Hace unos días migré desde Mandrake a Debian Sid y estoy configurando todo, encontrándome con algunas diferencias que todavía no puedo salvar. El problema que tengo ahora es para configurar una máquina virtual java (la oficial de Sun). La he instalado en /usr/java/, y en Mandrake era suficiente con setear en ~/.bash_profile la variable de entorno PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/bin para que desde la consola o desde cualquier otro lado (KDE), ejecutara la JVM. crea un enlace a /usr/local/bin, y fijate también si las librerias estan enlazadas en algun lugar como /usr/local/lib o /usr/lib :) yo también le tengo y me funciona bien pero haciendo esos dos enlaces
Need help with KDE/KDM
I can't log on through kdm_greet. All I see is a momentary loss of video signal then the login screen comes back. Has anyone else seen this? Where should I look for diagnostic info? Some other, possibly relevant informaion is: The system is a brand new, from scratch stable/woody installation. syslog, kdm.log, and XFree86.0.log don't show any errors indicating the failure. /var/log/auth.log shows: Jun 23 10:03:35 darkstar PAM_unix[5999]: (kdm) session opened for user rich by (uid=0) Jun 23 10:03:35 darkstar PAM_unix[5999]: (kdm) session closed for user rich startx from the command line will yield an X session. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help with KDE/KDM
* Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030623 17:00]: Has anyone else seen this? Where should I look for diagnostic info? No, I don't use kde. But you might find usefull information in your ~/.xsession-errors. Sincerely Alexander pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Need help with KDE/KDM
Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't log on through kdm_greet. All I see is a momentary loss of video signal then the login screen comes back. That symptom sounds very much like you're successfully logging in, whatever your X session is runs to completion, and you automatically log out. Do you have a .xsession file, and if so, does it wait for some long-running process (typically a window manager or session manager) to finish? What kdm session are you using? -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help with KDE/KDM
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 02:24 PM, David Z Maze wrote: Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't log on through kdm_greet. All I see is a momentary loss of video signal then the login screen comes back. That symptom sounds very much like you're successfully logging in, whatever your X session is runs to completion, and you automatically log out. Do you have a .xsession file, and if so, does it wait for some long-running process (typically a window manager or session manager) to finish? What kdm session are you using? Thanks. This I can believe. But then why would startx behave differently? Wouldn't it still yield the default single console window you get when you run startx without a .xinitrc? I've tried all three session types (default, kde3, failsafe) and there's no change in behavior. I've tried both modifying .xsession and .xinitrc files, and there's no change in behavior. (.xsession and .xinit are identical) I get the same behavior whether I login as root or a normal user. In neither case does it appear to run .xsession For reference, I'm using a stubby little .xinitrc/.xsession: #! /bin/sh echo `date`: start X session /tmp/xtrace xconsole -geometry 528x70+0+0 kde3 echo `date`: end X session /tmp/xtrace I assume that .xsession is not running because /tmp/xtrace is left untouched. --rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Massive problems with Gnome/KDE/kdm/gdm Xinerama
Heh, I think my subject line has covered all the bases :o) Up until recently, I was happy using gdm and Gnome, then having managed to free up a second monitor I thought I'd give Xinerama a whirl. Everything was OK... sort of; it worked, but X suddently acquired an unpleasant habit of locking solid at random, to the point where even Magic SysReq doesn't seem to work any more. At other times, it would just suddenly die and kick me back out to gdm, with a log file message saying: Jul 22 22:15:28 glyndwr gnome-name-server[877]: input condition is: 0x11, exiting (that's the last entry in syslog) That brings me onto the next problem... upon X server death (via ctrl-alt-backspace, logout, or this random crash) gdm would fail to come up about 4/5 of the time, resulting in a hard lock and yet another fsck bootup. This is getting rather tedious, and I've been meaning to try it anyway, so I thought I'd give KDE a chance. I've switched to using kdm and letting that log me into either Gnome or KDE at my option, but now I have two other weird problems: under Gnome, I have the command gnome-terminal -e slrn -t slrn --geometry=100x60 --font=gnome-terminal --font=-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1 in my Foot menu to load slrn. This has stopped working from the menu; about 9/10 times it spawns a window that immediately closes, and the other 1 time in 10 it spawns an error box claiming I'm running with glibc 2.1 and I should read my kernel docs because there was an error logging in. Except, it works if I just cutpaste that command into an existing gnome-terminal, and I can run normal gnome-terminals from the Foot menu fine. Meanwhile, under KDE, whenever I log in all my Gnome panels start then promptly start moaning (understandably) that I am not running a Gnome compatable windows manager! I haven't used KDE long enough to determine if my random server death has been cured or not. Normally I enjoy fiddling about with this sort of stuff, but it's starting to get kinda tedious now, particularly the random server death under Gnome. Any suggests for sorting any pieces of this mess out gladly receieved. I'm running testing Ximian, all up to date, with a custom-compiled kernel 2.4.7 (also tried 2.4.5). I'm thinking about trying X 4.1.0 but have stuck with 4.0.3 for the moment in case that just makies things worse. My graphics cards are an AGP Geforce (tried both nVidia and XFree86 nv drvier) and an S3 Virge DX. I'm not sure what other details may be relevent, so I'll hold off and just mail everything anyone asks for rather than swell this mail any more. Thanks in advance! -- -=R=- print join ,reverse split /\s+/,'hacker. Perl another Just',\n; Web: http://www.fscked.co.uk ICQ: 66545073
Re: KDE/KDM
On Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:56:51 +0200 (MDT) Philipp JW Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote: hello Does anyone have kde/kdm working on there computer ... I downloaded the red hat package and tryed to install it but it errored out ... if any one has kde working I would appreciate info on how you got it working... Yes i got it running, what I needed was: - libqt, a lib from Troll-Systems (is that right), is a debian package - libqt-dev - libkde the main lib for the kde project - khtmlw, a www/html widget set - lib_gif, or something like that - liblpeg jpeg libary and some fiddeling with the path entry in Makefiles and *.h files and some nice things like that For me the kdm is a nice replacement for xdm. I can's get kdm to work when I type kde nothing happens ... no prosess are spawned and no errors are given ... I also can not get xdm to work ... same deal as above and with xmd the /var/log/xdm-errors is filesize 0 ... any thoughts ... also I have qt installed from the debian ftp site so I can get the window manager to start but I would like to get it to also start the panel and the other kde things automaticly... like the fvwm95-2 WM works when it starts it starts the taskbar as well... the other thing I would like to do is have kde startup with a KVT instead of a xterm ... in fvwm95-2 this is done by editing the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95/.fvwm95rc ... is there a file that does this same function for kde ...? thanks ..
Re: KDE/KDM
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philipp JW Grau) writes: and some fiddeling with the path entry in Makefiles and *.h files and some nice things like that Well, i too fiddled with path entries and some *.h files too commenting out includes not found on my system like iostream.h, ifstream.h and fstream.h. But then the compilation comes to a grinding halt and i don't know what else to fiddle about: ---cut-here-- make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/kdebase-0.7.4/kwmclient-0.2' Making app in kdehelp make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/kdebase-0.7.4/kdehelp-0.4.8' c++ -Wall -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11/qt -I/usr/local/kde/include -I.. -I../.. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c help.cpp In file included from help.h:27, from help.cpp:22: info.h:246: `ifstream' was not declared in this scope info.h:246: `stream' was not declared in this scope info.h:253: `ifstream' was not declared in this scope info.h:253: `stream' was not declared in this scope info.h:253: parse error before `*' info.h:341: `ifstream' was not declared in this scope info.h:341: `stream' was not declared in this scope In file included from help.h:28, from help.cpp:22: man.h:153: `ifstream' was not declared in this scope man.h:153: `stream' was not declared in this scope man.h:153: data member `int cManTextList::Read' conflicts with man.h:152: function member `int cManTextList::Read(class cManSection )' help.cpp: In method `KHelpWindow::KHelpWindow(QWidget *, const char *)': help.cpp:98: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) help.cpp:98: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once help.cpp:98: for each function it appears in.) help.cpp: In method `int KHelpWindow::openURL(const char *, int = true)': help.cpp:364: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) help.cpp: In method `int KHelpWindow::openFile(const class QString )': help.cpp:435: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) help.cpp: In method `void KHelpWindow::slotCopy()': help.cpp:1136: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) help.cpp: In method `void KHelpWindow::slotBookmarkSelected(int)': help.cpp:1193: `cout' undeclared (first use this function) help.cpp: In method `void KHelpWindow::slotFormSubmitted(const char *, const char *)': help.cpp:1307: warning: unused parameter `const char * method' make[1]: *** [help.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/kdebase-0.7.4/kdehelp-0.4.8' make: *** [apps] Error 1 [root]/usr/local/src/kdebase-0.7.4 ---cut-here-- Looks like it was a bad idea to comment out those includes!? But without commenting them out the compilation would have already stopped at an earlier stage. So where do iostream.h, ifstream.h and fstream.h belong to? Which package did i miss to install? Or is it something completely different? I don't have no clue about all this... Cheers, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/
Re: KDE/KDM
On 11 Apr 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ---cut-here-- Looks like it was a bad idea to comment out those includes!? But without commenting them out the compilation would have already stopped at an earlier stage. So where do iostream.h, ifstream.h and fstream.h belong to? Which package did i miss to install? Or is it something completely different? I don't have no clue about all this... These are standard c++ headers. You need to install the libg++27-dev package. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] And the men .-_|\ who hold Consolidated Braincells Inc. / \ http://www.braincells.com/jaldhar/ -) Perth-*.--._/ o- Witty quote - Dead Guy /\/\/\ _ _ ___ _ _ Amboy v McQ!
Re: KDE/KDM
On 11 Apr 1997, Paul Seelig wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philipp JW Grau) writes: Well, i too fiddled with path entries and some *.h files too commenting out includes not found on my system like iostream.h, ifstream.h and fstream.h. But then the compilation comes to a grinding halt and i don't know what else to fiddle about: Umm ... if you don't have iostream.h, ifstream.h, or fstream.h then your C++ setup (more specificaly, your LibG++) is severly broken. Those are headers for some standard C++ streams classes. Double check your /usr/include/g++ directory! == Arcadio Alivio Sincero, Jr. a.k.a. The Tick Undergraduate Computer Science Major/Linux Enthusiast/Competitive Bodybuilder email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW:http://www.coming.to.a.web.site.near.you.com Come meet me on quake.linpeople.org for Quake or irc.linpeople.org for IRC!
KDE/KDM
Snip for the sake of bandwith I must appolagise for the typing mistake it should be I can't get kdm to work when I type kdm I can's get kdm to work when I type kde nothing happens ... no prosess are spawned and no errors are given ... I also can not get xdm to work ... same deal as above and with xmd the /var/log/xdm-errors is filesize 0 ... any thoughts ... also I have qt installed from the debian ftp site so I can get the window manager to start but I would like to get it to also start the panel and the other kde things automaticly... like the fvwm95-2 WM works when it starts it starts the taskbar as well... the other thing I would like to do is have kde startup with a KVT instead of a xterm ... in fvwm95-2 this is done by editing the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm95/.fvwm95rc ... is there a file that does this same function for kde ...? thanks .. - End forwarded message --
Re: KDE/KDM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Seelig) writes: Well, i too fiddled with path entries and some *.h files too commenting out includes not found on my system like iostream.h, ifstream.h and fstream.h. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[leutloff] dpkg -S iostream.h libg++27-dev: /usr/include/g++/iostream.h libg++27-dev: /usr/include/g++/stdiostream.h - you have to install the libg++27-dev package the streams are the standard io for C++ Bye Christian -- Christian Leutloff, Aachen, Germany eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oche.de/~leutloff/ Debian/GNU Linux! Mehr unter http://www.debian.org/ pgpWy93UjmrKO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE/KDM
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote: hello Does anyone have kde/kdm working on there computer ... I downloaded the red hat package and tryed to install it but it errored out ... if any one has kde working I would appreciate info on how you got it working... Yes i got it running, what I needed was: - libqt, a lib from Troll-Systems (is that right), is a debian package - libqt-dev - libkde the main lib for the kde project - khtmlw, a www/html widget set - lib_gif, or something like that - liblpeg jpeg libary and some fiddeling with the path entry in Makefiles and *.h files and some nice things like that For me the kdm is a nice replacement for xdm. Phillip -- - Ph. Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technische FH Wildau Wildau, Brandenburg, Germany
Re: KDE/KDM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I just got the qt pkg from debian. The KDE pkg from kde.org. Once it was unarchived I just modified the configure script to add /usr/X11R6/include/X11/qt for the QT include path, and /usr/X11R6/lib for the QT library path. Then just followed the instructions. On 10-Apr-97 Philipp JW Grau wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Kevin J Poorman wrote: hello Does anyone have kde/kdm working on there computer ... I downloaded the red hat package and tryed to install it but it errored out ... if any one has kde working I would appreciate info on how you got it working... Yes i got it running, what I needed was: - libqt, a lib from Troll-Systems (is that right), is a debian package - libqt-dev - libkde the main lib for the kde project - khtmlw, a www/html widget set - lib_gif, or something like that - liblpeg jpeg libary and some fiddeling with the path entry in Makefiles and *.h files and some nice things like that For me the kdm is a nice replacement for xdm. Phillip -- - Ph. Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technische FH Wildau Wildau, Brandenburg, Germany Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10-Apr-97 Time: 11:36:31 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM00I/wi+Ph+i3TgpAQGmzAP/ZB1J8TgM7FWcO7u3LuI8Uay2KqlZwwxN 1mWB63GuzuejQoneZV74qLVGQN1MW3J2Po/2riOdVwdqB7/EDrOEIZ/SIWXifWPW Q6tgVyJ0IqmE/TKyqDmItR2kMAu8IF1bwfRxBn7GP4l/R4rObgTUNo+hBgCL7JBe 35nzHCHQJ14= =JFf2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
KDE/KDM
hello Does anyone have kde/kdm working on there computer ... I downloaded the red hat package and tryed to install it but it errored out ... if any one has kde working I would appreciate info on how you got it working... -kevin
RE: KDE/KDM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I finished d/ling it from kde.org not 5 min's ago. I'm about to take a stab at it now. I'll let you know if I have success. On 09-Apr-97 Kevin J Poorman wrote: hello Does anyone have kde/kdm working on there computer ... I downloaded the red hat package and tryed to install it but it errored out ... if any one has kde working I would appreciate info on how you got it working... -kevin Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09-Apr-97 Time: 17:34:04 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0wLTAi+Ph+i3TgpAQEIugP9FWxp5I+1QI6kt9W43GhfLNl+xy1RDnS0 twmfHrue1P35ojvlS4ZjUAkuL3E9Qx0JQeoLbIWxAVLHWfOnhvsBXjPz228ZUQqu Cp0O1S8JdktaMAVrxEK0D1vPVujGw1jTdC5hYgwBZWE50WOfcLjzBgJhS2oTz1M2 3ZGqErN0AIs= =eUl+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE/KDM
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are there any plans to package KDE (www.kde.org) or any of it's components? KDE will be packaged, and you will be able to use it, but Debian is most interested in 100% free desktop environments, so we have to be a bit careful with KDE. KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. I think that Toll Tech, the creators of Qt, made it free on X so that they could have lots of free software to sell with their non-free versions under Windows, NT, etc. We would like to have the freedom to use major Debian components with other window systems than X (Berlin is one, but there are others on the horizon as well), and even other operating system than Linux (there's the Hurd, for example), which rules out the possibility that we would make the core of Debian _depend_ on KDE. You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. Other interesting desktop projects include GnuStep (http://www.gnustep.org), and FSF's own desktop project Teak, which doesn't seem to be going yet (http://www.fsf.org/software/teak). Then there's an entire replacement for X in Berlin (http://veda.synet.net/numan/berlin/), but of course they only have one component of that in Alpha-test so far. Thanks Bruce -- BAN KEY ESCROW. Privacy is your right! Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: KDE/KDM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. ... You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. Bruce, shouldn't it be the contrib directory instead of the non-free directory? I can see many packages which depends on Motif in contrib and I do not see why should Motif be more free than Qt. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil
Re: KDE/KDM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. From: Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce, shouldn't it be the contrib directory instead of the non-free directory? I can see many packages which depends on Motif in contrib and I do not see why should Motif be more free than Qt. I don't have my talmudic hat on today (too tired, and getting ready for Linux Expo). Check out the Debian Policy Manual and see what it says - if it needs improvement on this please write to the policy manager. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: KDE/KDM
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are there any plans to package KDE (www.kde.org) or any of it's components? KDE will be packaged, and you will be able to use it, but Debian is most interested in 100% free desktop environments, so we have to be a bit careful with KDE. KDE itself is free, but the Qt toolkit upon which KDE is free _only_when_used_with_X_. I think that Toll Tech, the creators of Qt, made it free on X so that they could have lots of free software to sell with their non-free versions under Windows, NT, etc. Just to correct possible mis-understanding of Bruce's statement... You don't have to buy Qt in order to run free Qt based software for Windows, NT, etc. Anyone can distribute Qt based software for any platform that Qt supports. But someone would have to purchase a copy of Qt in order to port or develop for Windows, NT, etc. And the Qt library sources can't be freely distributed with the software. We would like to have the freedom to use major Debian components with other window systems than X (Berlin is one, but there are others on the horizon as well), and even other operating system than Linux (there's the Hurd, for example), which rules out the possibility that we would make the core of Debian _depend_ on KDE. You'll still be able to get KDE from the non-free directory and run it. Other interesting desktop projects include GnuStep (http://www.gnustep.org), and FSF's own desktop project Teak, which doesn't seem to be going yet (http://www.fsf.org/software/teak). Then there's an entire replacement for X in Berlin (http://veda.synet.net/numan/berlin/), but of course they only have one component of that in Alpha-test so far. Thanks Bruce -- BAN KEY ESCROW. Privacy is your right! Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- Lee Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE/KDM
From: Leland Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't have to buy Qt in order to run free Qt based software for Windows, NT, etc. Anyone can distribute Qt based software for any platform that Qt supports. But someone would have to purchase a copy of Qt in order to port or develop for Windows, NT, etc. And the Qt library sources can't be freely distributed with the software. Yes, thanks. If I'm not mistaken, this means you distribute in executable form on those other operating systems, and anyone who wanted to modify your program and recompile it on a system other than X would have to own a copy of Qt to do so. Cost over $1500 per platform. Right? Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: KDE/KDM
From: Leland Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't have to buy Qt in order to run free Qt based software for Windows, NT, etc. Anyone can distribute Qt based software for any platform that Qt supports. But someone would have to purchase a copy of Qt in order to port or develop for Windows, NT, etc. And the Qt library sources can't be freely distributed with the software. Yes, thanks. If I'm not mistaken, this means you distribute in executable form on those other operating systems, and anyone who wanted to modify your program and recompile it on a system other than X would have to own a copy of Qt to do so. Cost over $1500 per platform. Right? Thanks Bruce Close. $1470 per developer. -- Lee Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE/KDM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Are there any plans to package KDE (www.kde.org) or any of it's components? I am particularly impressed with kdm -- a _dropin_ replacement for xdm that looks *very* nice and includes support for nice logos (like the debian logos) and for a optional shutdown button. I am using the binary from a redhat full distribution package that I had to edit with a binary editor to change the string that says KDE Desktop Environment to Debian/GNU Linux (just a personal preference). I had to do this cause I had trouble compiling kdm (without compiling the entire KDE environment (huge)). There are several other good programs/applets/windowmanager that other people might like... Just wondering, Erv - -- PGP Public Key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: A5 AB 25 7D 7A FD 4D FE BE 21 47 60 0C DC 67 9E ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] \_\/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM0CQfrkbWT/F2aV1AQGK7AQAqvZddfFOLiMuxPsqp4U1+WjTP6n2z7mq cEeMvZ2VTBhevSZUogxVYJ1RFIJrNWq2j6xmIac6EImZ4QlPGdghc0gl+fqmYSAH a/03eeNCmaeo0HyeFPji5guJOazPJxFmqYKBA+TagaWGyDcjUXak9Xr0im9fUcBI Axx4I7mOylc= =Moxx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
