Re: Keyboard autorepeat
--- Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To clear up the earlier confusion from above: I now know the SetKbdSettings stuff is coming from *GNOME* (latest version of GNOME, I'm using potato updated almost daily). It now sets the keyboard every time it starts, thus the value of AutoRepeat in XF86Config *seems* to be ignored, but actually its just being overridden at startup every time. Thanks for hunting that down. GNOME probably uses xset (or the Xkb extension?) to change the rate(s), so it really boils down to the change in the X server I mentioned. Setting the keyboard in GNOME's config will solve the problem, AutoRepeat in XF86Config can be ignored as long as you use GNOME. Surely GNOME is a better way to configure this than fiddling in XF86Config :) Michel = Software is like sex; it's better when it's free -- Linus Torvalds If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
Ed Cogburn wrote:
Michel Dänzer wrote:
--- Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is, to me, something suspicious that I haven't noticed before.
The last lines of the text console after starting X now include:
SetKbdSettings - type: 0 rate: 5 delay: 105 snumlk: 0
SetKbdSettings - succeeded
Where is this coming from? Its NOT the AutoRepeat thing in
XF86Config, this is something new thats been added recently.
Let's repeat it: It _is_ the AutoRepeat thing. It was ignored in former
versions of XFree86.
Then there is another problem that I'm seeing because AutoRepeat does
nothing at all. I can change the 250 to 500 or the 5 to 0, 6, or 15
and rerun X. NO CHANGE. Also, the SetKbdSettings lines do not change
either, the rate remains 5 and the delay 105.
To clear up the earlier confusion from above: I now know the
SetKbdSettings stuff is coming from *GNOME* (latest version of GNOME,
I'm using potato updated almost daily). It now sets the keyboard
every time it starts, thus the value of AutoRepeat in XF86Config
*seems* to be ignored, but actually its just being overridden at
startup every time.
Setting the keyboard in GNOME's config will solve the problem,
AutoRepeat in XF86Config can be ignored as long as you use GNOME.
Note: The rate variable doesn't seem to be linear, so you have to
experiment with the numbers to find what is comfortable for you,
{rate=25, delay=250} works for me.
--
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire
Ed C.
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
Michel Dänzer wrote: --- Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is, to me, something suspicious that I haven't noticed before. The last lines of the text console after starting X now include: SetKbdSettings - type: 0 rate: 5 delay: 105 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - succeeded Where is this coming from? Its NOT the AutoRepeat thing in XF86Config, this is something new thats been added recently. Let's repeat it: It _is_ the AutoRepeat thing. It was ignored in former versions of XFree86. Then there is another problem that I'm seeing because AutoRepeat does nothing at all. I can change the 250 to 500 or the 5 to 0, 6, or 15 and rerun X. NO CHANGE. Also, the SetKbdSettings lines do not change either, the rate remains 5 and the delay 105. -- It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. -- Voltaire Ed C.
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
On 16/1/2000 Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: Where can I change this setting? /sbin/kbdrate -r 30.0 -d 250 worked for me. do it on the console though, or else it will only affect X it seems. can anyone tell me why there is a /etc/pam.d/kbdrate file that seems to do nothing? any user can use kbdrate and change the keyboard settings globally afaict. Ethan
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
--- Alisdair McDiarmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:53:25PM +, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: I just upgraded my machine to current potato, and the keyboard autorepeat settings have changed: delay is now 500ms instead of ~300ms as it was before. I've fixed the problem in X by editing my XF86Config file (added AutoRepeat 300 5 in the Keyboard section) but the virtual console setting is still wrong. No it's not, I'm just being stupid. By the way, where did this change in the recent upgrade? Somewhere in the X packages? Upstream in XFree86. Former versions didn't even handle the AutoRepeat option. While 3.3.6 does, it can't restore it for the console because the rate can't be inquired. Michel = Software is like sex; it's better when it's free -- Linus Torvalds If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:53:25PM +, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: I just upgraded my machine to current potato, and the keyboard autorepeat settings have changed: delay is now 500ms instead of ~300ms as it was before. I've fixed the problem in X by editing my XF86Config file (added AutoRepeat 300 5 in the Keyboard section) but the virtual console setting is still wrong. No it's not, I'm just being stupid. By the way, where did this change in the recent upgrade? Somewhere in the X packages? I'm having the same problems, and I think its X related. I run kbdrate on boot up, and everything is fine untill I run X. The kbd suddenly speeds up not just in virtual consoles in X, but also back in the text console terms as well. I have to run kbdrate now, every time I turn around. There is, to me, something suspicious that I haven't noticed before. The last lines of the text console after starting X now include: SetKbdSettings - type: 0 rate: 5 delay: 105 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - succeeded Where is this coming from? Its NOT the AutoRepeat thing in XF86Config, this is something new thats been added recently. -- It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. -- Voltaire Ed C.
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
--- Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is, to me, something suspicious that I haven't noticed before. The last lines of the text console after starting X now include: SetKbdSettings - type: 0 rate: 5 delay: 105 snumlk: 0 SetKbdSettings - succeeded Where is this coming from? Its NOT the AutoRepeat thing in XF86Config, this is something new thats been added recently. Let's repeat it: It _is_ the AutoRepeat thing. It was ignored in former versions of XFree86. Michel = Software is like sex; it's better when it's free -- Linus Torvalds If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable. -- Windows 95 BSOD __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Keyboard autorepeat
I just upgraded my machine to current potato, and the keyboard autorepeat settings have changed: delay is now 500ms instead of ~300ms as it was before. I've no idea which package this can be configured in. I've fixed the problem in X by editing my XF86Config file (added AutoRepeat 300 5 in the Keyboard section) but the virtual console setting is still wrong. Where can I change this setting? Thanks in advance, -- Alisdair McDiarmid[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard autorepeat
On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 06:53:25PM +, Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: I just upgraded my machine to current potato, and the keyboard autorepeat settings have changed: delay is now 500ms instead of ~300ms as it was before. I've fixed the problem in X by editing my XF86Config file (added AutoRepeat 300 5 in the Keyboard section) but the virtual console setting is still wrong. No it's not, I'm just being stupid. By the way, where did this change in the recent upgrade? Somewhere in the X packages? -- Alisdair McDiarmid[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keyboard autorepeat
Quoting Ian Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Is there a clean way to once and for always set the keyboard autorepeat delay and rate on a Debian system? I mean something like kbdrate -d 500 -r 10.0 somewhere in the /etc/init.d/* scripts. grep says no there is no such thing -- do I have to add it myself, and if so, what's the best place? $ cat /etc/rc.boot/keyboardrate #!/bin/sh # # Set the keyboard repetition rate. # # mS DELAY=500 # cps REPEAT=15 /sbin/kbdrate -r $REPEAT -d $DELAY exit 0 OK, you're not meant to use /etc/rc.boot, but I'll stop when Debian stops. I can't remember whether unsupported values just don't work, or whether the closest values are used. I don't even know whether linux or firmware handles this. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: keyboard autorepeat
*- On 20 Sep, David Wright wrote about Re: keyboard autorepeat Quoting Ian Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Is there a clean way to once and for always set the keyboard autorepeat delay and rate on a Debian system? I mean something like kbdrate -d 500 -r 10.0 somewhere in the /etc/init.d/* scripts. grep says no there is no such thing -- do I have to add it myself, and if so, what's the best place? $ cat /etc/rc.boot/keyboardrate #!/bin/sh # # Set the keyboard repetition rate. # # mS DELAY=500 # cps REPEAT=15 /sbin/kbdrate -r $REPEAT -d $DELAY exit 0 OK, you're not meant to use /etc/rc.boot, but I'll stop when Debian stops. Debian is stopping to use it. The only document that is not updated is the Debian policy, although the change has been accepted, see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/32/32448.html. Also look at 'man 5 rc.boot', /usr/doc/sysvinit/README.runlevels.gz and http://www.debian.org/lintian/reports/Tpackage-installs-into-etc-rc.boot.html. The correct procedure is to put the script in /etc/init.d with a .sh extension and link to it from /etc/rcS.d. -- Brian - Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
keyboard autorepeat
Is there a clean way to once and for always set the keyboard autorepeat delay and rate on a Debian system? I mean something like kbdrate -d 500 -r 10.0 somewhere in the /etc/init.d/* scripts. grep says no there is no such thing -- do I have to add it myself, and if so, what's the best place? As a start, I tried to use the Gnome control panel to set it in X (although eventually I want it in text mode too). But changing the keyboard settings there seems to have no effect at all ... -- Ian Zimmerman Lightbinders, Inc. 2325 3rd Street #324, San Francisco, California 94107
