Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-27 Thread Michele Bini
Sorry, I mistyped the speed. It is _exactly_ 57600, or pppd will fall back
to a much more slow speed (28000?).  ^

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Michele Bini wrote:
> Maybe you have made the same error I made: to connect to my ISP I
> wrongly specified 38400 as modem speed since it was the only speed I
> found in the documentation (manual pages and HOWTOSs). After
> replacing 38400 with 56400 (I found this value only in the setserial man
   ^
error  use 57600, never 56400

> page) I noticed an incredible (probably ~2x)  speedup.

-Michele



Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-27 Thread Michele Bini


On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, BG Lim wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the letter. However, my modem speed is set to 115000.
pppd is _NOT_ able to use that speed and will fall back to another, much
slower one (28000?) !!! (at least my (Bo) version of pppd, to check
against this look at the output of plog, you will probably see a line like
this:
Aug 27 03:43:08 diamond pppd[1296]: speed 115000 not supported
)
Or do you only mean that you have specified the spd_vhi option to
setserial?

Sorry, I mistyped the speed to give to pppd i told you before. It _is_
57600, no more, no less.
^

> Actually, the reason for all this, is that I read somewhere, that linux is
> able to set latencies for various programs, since it is so network
> centric. And that article mentioned that telnet is set to low-latency, so
> that it gets a good response.
This sounds interesting...

> So, I've been wondering is there is something I did, or didn't do, which
> changed that. I've played with the MTU and MRU settings. Currently, its
> 296 for both. No difference whatsoever.
I am not an expert, but I think that using such low values can only be
acceptable with very slow connections requiring very hi responsiveness
(each packet contains an header, and using low values the header/data
ratio is  higher, wasting bandwidth).

Ciao,
Michele




Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-27 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "BL" == BG Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

BL> changed that. I've played with the MTU and MRU settings. Currently, its
BL> 296 for both. No difference whatsoever.

Most likely, your provider demands a setting for MTU, so the values
you specify have no influence.

You can check this with /sbin/ifconfig ppp0 IIRC. Also the debug
option to pppd and the ppp.log will clarify this.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-27 Thread BG Lim
Hi,

Thanks for the letter. However, my modem speed is set to 115000.

Actually, the reason for all this, is that I read somewhere, that linux is
able to set latencies for various programs, since it is so network
centric. And that article mentioned that telnet is set to low-latency, so
that it gets a good response.

So, I've been wondering is there is something I did, or didn't do, which
changed that. I've played with the MTU and MRU settings. Currently, its
296 for both. No difference whatsoever.

BG

On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Michele Bini wrote:

> > > I connect to my ISP with Win95 as well (cos there is no NetMeeting on
> > > Linux :-(, and it is much more responsive. 
> > > 
> 
> Maybe you have made the same error I made: to connect to my ISP I
> wrongly specified 38400 as modem speed since it was the only speed I
> found in the documentation (manual pages and HOWTOSs). After
> replacing 38400 with 56400 (I found this value only in the setserial man
> page) I noticed an incredible (probably ~2x)  speedup.
> 
> > I had a problem with latency once and it was due to name resolution, and
> > the particular order I had DNS' in my system.
> > 
> > With the host that you are having the lag with, setup a /etc/hosts entry
> > for that  machine and try it again.  If it take the same about of time,
> > then not resolution.  
> > If it is quick then you know you have a problem with resolution.
> 
> -Michele
> 
> 
> 


Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-26 Thread Michele Bini
> > I connect to my ISP with Win95 as well (cos there is no NetMeeting on
> > Linux :-(, and it is much more responsive. 
> > 

Maybe you have made the same error I made: to connect to my ISP I
wrongly specified 38400 as modem speed since it was the only speed I
found in the documentation (manual pages and HOWTOSs). After
replacing 38400 with 56400 (I found this value only in the setserial man
page) I noticed an incredible (probably ~2x)  speedup.

> I had a problem with latency once and it was due to name resolution, and
> the particular order I had DNS' in my system.
> 
> With the host that you are having the lag with, setup a /etc/hosts entry
> for that  machine and try it again.  If it take the same about of time,
> then not resolution.  
> If it is quick then you know you have a problem with resolution.

-Michele



Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-24 Thread Jay Barbee
> I connect to my ISP with Win95 as well (cos there is no NetMeeting on
> Linux :-(, and it is much more responsive. 
> 

I had a problem with latency once and it was due to name resolution, and the 
particular order I had DNS' in my system.

With the host that you are having the lag with, setup a /etc/hosts entry for 
that 
machine and try it again.  If it take the same about of time, then not 
resolution.  
If it is quick then you know you have a problem with resolution.

--Jay Barbee


Re: Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-23 Thread BG Lim
I connect to my ISP with Win95 as well (cos there is no NetMeeting on
Linux :-(, and it is much more responsive. 

BG

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, George Bonser wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 1998, BG Lim wrote:
> 
> > This poor responsiveness is bad when nothing else is using the ppp link,
> > and very bad if I were to be downloading something at the same time.
> 
> Maybe the machine at the other end is to blame. I have experianced no
> trouble with Debian telnet over dialup connections.
> 
> George Bonser
> 
> The Linux "We're never going out of business" sale at an FTP site near you!
> 
> 


Latency problems with Telnet

1998-08-23 Thread BG Lim
I connect to my ISP with a 33.6kbps modem. My problem is that I get very
poor response when I use Telnet. I believe that this is due to latency
problems. I've read somewhere that in Linux, telnet is set to low-latency
to improve responsiveness. How to find out what the settings are on my
system.

This poor responsiveness is bad when nothing else is using the ppp link,
and very bad if I were to be downloading something at the same time.

Come to think of it, is there a way to split the bandwidth of a line
between several processes is determined ways?

BG