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Michael Merten wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. there computer is in fact There may be a 'linx' program that he's talking about, but I've never heard of it. As far as 'lynx' goes, this info is bogus. Mike Actually there are dial-up unix providers. One gets shell access. This seems useful to aspiring web designers who aren't ready or able to install their own T1 lines. Access is via one's ISP, and price (for what i've been spammed with) relates to storage levels and domain name options. For straight unix with like (i think...its been awhile) 100MB of storage and no domain name the cost is about $20/month (plus the $20/month for your ISP). I've never used such a service (but considered implementing one...lol...i mean how cool!) :=)
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On Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 02:08:01PM -0700, eg wrote: Michael Merten wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. there computer is in fact There may be a 'linx' program that he's talking about, but I've never heard of it. As far as 'lynx' goes, this info is bogus. Mike Actually there are dial-up unix providers. One gets shell access. This seems useful to aspiring web designers who aren't ready or able to install their own T1 lines. Access is via one's ISP, and price (for what i've been spammed with) relates to storage levels and domain name options. For straight unix with like (i think...its been awhile) 100MB of storage and no domain name the cost is about $20/month (plus the $20/month for your ISP). Yeah, I recon I knew that; its just been a long time (around here anyway) since an ISP would TRUST it's users with a shell account that what he was saying didn't make a connection in my brain. My bad! ;) Mike [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- [N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. --Samuel Adams
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Doug == Doug Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug a mammoth job since I'm not aware of any way to find files with html Doug extensioins other than open every directory one by one to see whats in it. I find /usr/doc/ -name *.html locate .html Doug don't know whether or not its doing that correctly though since Doug it only shows html files as the text version of html (with all Doug the funny tags everywhere) This looks wrong. It shouldn't do this for files with .html extension. This suggests a problem with your internet connection: is your connection up when you try this? Doug yes I can ping one of my server DNS numbers (located about Doug 25Km away) without trouble but not the other one. Both DNS Doug numbers are listed in /etc/ppp/options Oh, this just sets the DNS server for computer dialing into your box, not if you dial out to your ISP. /etc/resolv.conf is the file to edit domain netcologne.de nameserver 194.8.194.70 nameserver 194.8.194.71 And check /etc/host.conf for order hosts, bind multi on Ciao, Martin
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Doug Young writes: yes I can ping one of my server DNS numbers (located about 25Km away) without trouble but not the other one. Both DNS numbers are listed in /etc/ppp/options What gave you the idea you should put your ISP's DNS numbers in /etc/ppp/options? Have you been reading the PPP-HOWTO or something? You should not need to make any changes to /etc/ppp/options. Your ISP's DNS numbers belong in /etc/resolv.conf, like this: nameserver 123.456.789.234 nameserver 234.567.890.123 If you are unable to ping one of the numbers it is probably wrong. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
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David Karlin wrote: You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding. A good PPP (or other network) connection is necessary for any browser to work. Um, yes, I meant in the context of viewing pages on the Internet. Sorry to mislead. No browser can work independently of that, or debug your connection for you. So what's the knock on lynx if it didn't work when you didn't have the connection established? Lynx can also view local html pages (i.e. ones one your local system). To find out if it is a lynx problem or one with ppp, try to open a local page. Of course, as I suggested in my prior mail.
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Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he is correct, it appears that I may have been trying to do something that even experts would find difficult. Subject: Re: lynx configuration Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Doug Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello, now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. there computer is in fact operating that computer remotely; so a command made on their computer goes over the phone line through the modem and is recieved and performed by the remote computer. what ever results from that command appears on the local computer. if you really want to use linux and operate a copy of linx on it, you need help from someone who knows the linux operating system and how to set things up. i have only a minimal knowledge of linux. a second choice is to find a copy of linx which operates either under dos or windows, such do exist. a third way to use linx is as i do and as i have just described above, to use my computer to operate a remote computer which has linx on it. if you want to pursue using linx on linux, i can direct you to a group of blind linux users. let me know, dan On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Doug Young wrote: what i had you do was the most basic function in lynx. my thought at this time is that the particular copy your isp is using is bad, I got the Debian CD set including Lynx from LSL (http:..www.lsl.com.au) so the server isn't involved in any way. possibly mis-compiled. I wouldn't have the faintest idea about compiling anything Lynx was just an option to select in Debians dselect utility so thats where it came from. I didn't get any dialog or config script / instructions / whatever if you give directly an url such as i had you do, a start file is not needed. have you consulted with your isp about this? I may be missing something here but I can't understand what the server has to do with Lynx not running on a local box . every application I run on Windows, Mandrake, Solaris boxes works fine so I don't think its a server problem lynx is quite straight forward in use and function and is very stable in operation, thus i feel it is in the specific copy you are trying to use. Someone instructed me how to tell what version .. turned out to be the current one, but due to the total absence of intelligible documentation I don't have any idea what its even supposed to look like in action do i assume correctly that you are using lynx via a modem using your computer as a terminal hey I'm a newbie at this stuff I wouldn't know a terminal if I tripped over one :( to run it on an isp's machine; and not using a copy of lynx that runs on your computer? Lynx is definitely installed on a local box, I didn't even realize it was possible to run it on another machine .. the Debian box will dialup to server and make a ppp connection thats about all it will do dan
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On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. there computer is in fact There may be a 'linx' program that he's talking about, but I've never heard of it. As far as 'lynx' goes, this info is bogus. Mike -- [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- I just thought of something funny...your mother. --Cheech Marin
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On Sun, Jun 06, 1999 at 04:41:52AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 11:39:20AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: I don't even know if its running . all I can tell for sure is when I type lynx something responds telling me its looking for server homepage, but after a few mins gives up and says STARTFILE:richardson.apana.org.au not found OK, you are going to have to go into the /etc/lynx/cfg file. There is line near the top like this: STARTFILE:URL I suggest using a local file (else lynx won't start if you net connection is down) so: STARTFILE:file://localhost/path/to/file.html alternatively you can specify a URL on the command line: bash$ lynx http://www.debian.org Basic lynx navigation: [snipped] Doug, if you're still having problems accessing urls with lynx, here's something you might try. Install the dnsutils package, then try something like 'nslookup www.debian.org'. If you get a long pause, then an error about host not found, your reslover configuration is not working correctly. If, on the other hand, it works ok, try 'lynx www.debian.org'. Let us know the results of both, so we can figure out which way to take it further. Mike [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- The holy passion of Friendship is of so sweet and steady and loyal and enduring a nature that it will last through a whole lifetime, if not asked to lend money. --Mark Twain
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Subject: [Fwd: Lynx Problems] Date: Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000 In reply to:Doug Young Quoting Doug Young([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he is correct, it appears that I may have been trying to do something that even experts would find difficult. Subject: Re: lynx configuration Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Doug Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] hello, now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. there computer is in fact operating that computer remotely; so a command made on their computer goes over the phone line through the modem and is recieved and performed by the remote computer. what ever results from that command appears on the local computer. if you really want to use linux and operate a copy of linx on it, you need help from someone who knows the linux operating system and how to set things up. i have only a minimal knowledge of linux. a second choice is to find a copy of linx which operates either under dos or windows, such do exist. a third way to use linx is as i do and as i have just described above, to use my computer to operate a remote computer which has linx on it. if you want to pursue using linx on linux, i can direct you to a group of blind linux users. let me know, dan He's right. Thats why people who know, use Debian. What do you think the maintainer does. Stuff a program into a package without checking it out and setting it up so that it will run? Lynx runs right out of the box. It works and works well. Just because you haven't been able to read and understand the manuals is no reason to condem it. You are doing/saying the same thing about LRP. Because you can't understand the manuals, you are off on a rant about why people can't write manuals you can understand. I have been tryong to help you with both LRP and Lynx since July 18, off this list. I directed you to the Howto's then and I just finished a reply to you where you asked me What language are the Howto's written in. You have yet to read them but complain how bad the docs are. I've had it. I tried to help. I've had 11 personal mails from you and you have not done one thing yet, on your own. Every mail is a complaint that the Linux Docs are bad and Windows is better. Well I have done all I can. I have had a feeling for the last two days, seeing all of your negative comments, that you were a troll. Now it doesn't matter. Don't ask me for any more help. With you attitude, I think that Windows 2000 is the place for you. Buy a Cisco router, if you can read their manuals, and forget about Linux. My apologies to the list. I have just had it with this guy. -- Office Automation, n.: The use of computers to improve efficiency by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Doug Young writes: Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he is correct,... He isn't. ...it appears that I may have been trying to do something that even experts would find difficult. Lynx is just a web browser. I use it in preference to Netscape (though the default colors in the current version are appalling). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
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Well whatever the cause of my Lynx problems they are finished now I've uninstalled the thing and hope never to hear of it again. I eventually located an extremely well written document titled How to Hook up PPP in Linux by W.G.Unruh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that appears to have all the diagnostic stuff needed to debug a connection so the use for a dark ages technology browser no longer exists. The abovementioned article is even easier to comprehend than the very good O'Reilly stuff which goes to prove that it IS possible to produce intelligible documentation on linux applications :) Subject: Re: [Fwd: Lynx Problems] Resent-Date: 22 Jul 1999 04:33:48 - Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: recipient list not shown: ; Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:42:09 -0500 From: Michael Merten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org To: Debian Userslist debian-user@lists.debian.org References: 1 On Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 10:36:05AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. there computer is in fact There may be a 'linx' program that he's talking about, but I've never heard of it. As far as 'lynx' goes, this info is bogus. Mike -- [Private mail welcome, but no need to CC: me on list replies.] -- Michael Merten -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- NRA Life Member -- http://www.nra.org --- Debian GNU/Linux Fan -- http://www.debian.org --- CenLA-LUG Founder -- http://www.angelfire.com/la2/cenlalug -- I just thought of something funny...your mother. --Cheech Marin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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Quoting Doug Young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he is correct, it appears that I may have been trying to do something that even experts would find difficult. I haven't been following this thread too closely, but my experience is that Debian lynx runs without any contribution from you other than a home page to start on. If you're not on a permanent internet connection, a good choice is http://localhost/dwww/index.html after installing the dwww package. However, to get pages from the internet, lynx (like everything else) assumes you've got your internet connection (PPP, say) set up correctly, and this is not as straightforward. now i understand the source of your problem. you are trying to use a copy of lynx found on a distribution copy of linux. just a suggestion, linux is not for a beginner, as you have self described yourself. almost every part of it must be setup and configured by someone who knows more then a casual experience with it. That's what Debian developers do (thanks, folks). That's why most of Debian runs straight out of the box. Yes, five years ago, there were plenty of people struggling to get to grips with Slackware etc. when you see people talking about using linux on the discussion groups, they are dialing into an internet provider where the copy of linx resides. I shall assume those are both typos for lynx. But be careful about taking any advice from people who can't be bothered to spell unambiguously the most important keywords in the discussion. there computer is in fact operating that computer remotely; so a command made on their computer goes over the phone line through the modem and is recieved and performed by the remote computer. what ever results from that command appears on the local computer. Again, this person sounds five or more years out of date. Before internet connectivity became pervasive, lots of people would login to a timesharing service (using minicom, kermit, telix etc.) and type lynx. Because lynx is text based, they got just the same functionality as running it on their own box (except that downloaded files would still need to be transferred from the lynx host to their own computer using, say, the kermit protocol). In fact, you didn't even need a computer. You could just as easily use a terminal to login from. if you really want to use linux and operate a copy of linx on it, you need help from someone who knows the linux operating system and how to set things up. i have only a minimal knowledge of linux. Evidently. a second choice is to find a copy of linx which operates either under dos or windows, such do exist. a third way to use linx is as i do and as i have just described above, to use my computer to operate a remote computer which has linx on it. Unfortunately, they don't say how the two computers are linked. If they're using telnet, for example, do they realise that they've solved the tricky bit. if you want to pursue using linx on linux, i can direct you to a group of blind linux users. It's hard to resist making the obvious cheap wisecrack! Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: [Fwd: Lynx Problems]
Doug Young wrote: Those who have been pondering my Lynx problems might care to comment on this message I received from a guy who answered a post elsewhere. If he is correct, it appears that I may have been trying to do something that even experts would find difficult. No. You are not. Lynx runs right out of the box for 99% of the guys out there, I daresay. Let me have a stab at this. Forget about PPP, the web, HTML, and everything else, and just try this: lynx file:///etc/inittab This ought to be about a four-page listing. or lynx file:///etc/debian_version Should simply show you the version of your Debian system. Mine shows 2.1. This ought to work on just about every system out there. If these don't work, let us know. You have a seriously screwed up version of lynx. If they do work, your network is incorrectly configured. Concentrate on that and forget about lynx for a while. Get it to where you can successfully 'ping 209.81.8.242'. This is the IP address of www.debian.org. Then you'll know IP through your provider is working. To accomplish this, pppconfig is your friend. Then pon and poff. Then, try 'nslookup www.debian.org'. Then you'll know DNS is working. Then, try 'lynx http://www.debian.org'. That should damn well work.
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Doug Young wrote: Well whatever the cause of my Lynx problems they are finished now I've uninstalled the thing and hope never to hear of it again. I eventually located an extremely well written document titled How to Hook up PPP in Linux by W.G.Unruh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that appears to have all the diagnostic stuff needed to debug a connection so the use for a dark ages technology browser no longer exists. The abovementioned article is even easier to comprehend than the very good O'Reilly stuff which goes to prove that it IS possible to produce intelligible documentation on linux applications :) You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding. A good PPP (or other network) connection is necessary for any browser to work. No browser can work independently of that, or debug your connection for you. So what's the knock on lynx if it didn't work when you didn't have the connection established? However, you are doing right by forgetting about lynx and concentrating on your PPP connection. I do wonder whether you wouldn't have been better off concentrating on pppconfig and pon/poff, which could be a real time-saver. Good luck. If you should try lynx after the PPP connection is there, I would guess you will find it quite reliable and useful, if not pretty.
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You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding. A good PPP (or other network) connection is necessary for any browser to work. No browser can work independently of that, or debug your connection for you. So what's the knock on lynx if it didn't work when you didn't have the connection established? Lynx can also view local html pages (i.e. ones one your local system). To find out if it is a lynx problem or one with ppp, try to open a local page. --D
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try: STARTFILE:file://localhost/usr/doc/lynx/lynx_help/lynx_help_main.html in /etc/lynx.cfg This is the default locatuion for the lynx help file. or make this file to point lynx at: --cut here-- html head titleThis is a dummy page/title /head body Lynx should be displaying this page I hope /body /html --cut here-- It appears to be able to bring up local files with html extensions when I go looking for them then tell Lynx where to find that particular file, but its a mammoth job since I'm not aware of any way to find files with html extensioins other than open every directory one by one to see whats in it. I don't know whether or not its doing that correctly though since it only shows html files as the text version of html (with all the funny tags everywhere) alternatively you can specify a URL on the command line: bash$ lynx http://www.debian.org tried that a hundred times always STARTFILE not found Hmmm... This suggests a problem with your internet connection: is your connection up when you try this? yes I can ping one of my server DNS numbers (located about 25Km away) without trouble but not the other one. Both DNS numbers are listed in /etc/ppp/options did you configure nameservers for your location? do other network apps function ok (ftp, telnet)? none of that is much use if I can't get to any URL in first place :( That's why it's at the end :) -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 39679408
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Hi, On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 01:18:55PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: Does anyone know of a real basic web browser thats simple to setup configure. I am fast running out of patience with lynx due to its virtually useless documentation and excessively complicated config file. Hmmm... lynx.cfg is not excessively complicated it's Feature Rich ;) Seriously what are you trying to get lynx to do that it won't? Some high points most user configurations can be set from within lynx using Options by default bound to the o key. Help is ? and k gives the full list of key bindings. Specific questions will get specific answers, but specificly lynx is the most featureful and stable browser I know (IMHO), its the only one I've found for linux besides netscape that will handle frames for one thing ... Long post short: Lynx good Learning curve steep If you've got problems s.o. here has a solution (probably) HTH, Jon -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 39679408
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Bill Leach wrote: I'm in danger of displaying and attitude here... I use netscape but consider it to be the worst piece of software that I have on any Linux box of mine. GUI web browsers that I have used on Linux are all junk in my opinion! using netscape with all the known but unsolved crashes and bus errors i feel like workin with m$ software... Lynx OTOH is a typical UNIX program. I have never seen Lynx crash, hang, or fail in any way and have never heard anyone else claim that it has for them. Lynx help is VERY good. The help and keystroke pages are treated just like any other web page except that there is no waiting for a response! For all the years that I have used Lynx, I have to admit that so far I have not even scratched the capability of that program. You can search the help pages with /key string which can be quite handy. Probably the biggest problem for people used to netscape type browsers is that Lynx with do everything that they do (sans waste bandwidth downloading huge, and usually useless, graphic images) and a whole lot more but things are done in a different way. On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 08:07:11AM +0200, Gerhard Kroder wrote: Doug Young wrote: well, as im writing similar to Doug in an other thread on pmail i didn't go into this further. gerhard
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using netscape with all the known but unsolved crashes and bus errors i feel like workin with m$ software... The difference is Netscape is suited to the majority of computer users who possess neither the time nor the inclination to wade through reams of excessively obtuse documentation in the hope of figuring how to configure it. Lynx OTOH is a typical UNIX program. I have never seen Lynx crash, hang, or fail in any way and have never heard anyone else claim that it has for them. Lynx help is VERY good. The help and keystroke pages are treated just like any other web page except that there is no waiting for a response! For all the years that I have used Lynx, I have to admit that so far I have not even scratched the capability of that program. In theory thats a GOOD THING, but if it won't work its as much use to users as a bicycle is to a fish You can search the help pages with /key string which can be quite handy. yes well assuming lynx is actually running, how does one know just WHAT key string to use ??
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Hi, On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 11:39:20AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: I don't even know if its running . all I can tell for sure is when I type lynx something responds telling me its looking for server homepage, but after a few mins gives up and says STARTFILE:richardson.apana.org.au not found OK, you are going to have to go into the /etc/lynx/cfg file. There is line near the top like this: STARTFILE:URL I suggest using a local file (else lynx won't start if you net connection is down) so: STARTFILE:file://localhost/path/to/file.html alternatively you can specify a URL on the command line: bash$ lynx http://www.debian.org Basic lynx navigation: down arrow key Go to next link up arrow keyGo to previous link Right arrow Follow link Left arrow Previous page Space bar next screen (page down) - (dash)previous screen (page up) k Key Binding list (use left arrow to return to browsing) ? HELP This one won't handle ANYTHING :( .. certainly not frames Before I catch too many flames on this one... Lynx handles frams by providing links to the pages that are in the frames, it does not display frames. But allowing you to navagate them is a big plus. HTH, Jon -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 39679408
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Subject: [Fwd: Lynx Problems] Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 06:19:05PM +1000 In reply to:Doug Young Quoting Doug Young([EMAIL PROTECTED]): using netscape with all the known but unsolved crashes and bus errors i feel like workin with m$ software... The difference is Netscape is suited to the majority of computer users who possess neither the time nor the inclination to wade through reams of excessively obtuse documentation in the hope of figuring how to configure it. Lynx OTOH is a typical UNIX program. I have never seen Lynx crash, hang, or fail in any way and have never heard anyone else claim that it has for them. Lynx help is VERY good. The help and keystroke pages are treated just like any other web page except that there is no waiting for a response! For all the years that I have used Lynx, I have to admit that so far I have not even scratched the capability of that program. In theory thats a GOOD THING, but if it won't work its as much use to users as a bicycle is to a fish You can search the help pages with /key string which can be quite handy. yes well assuming lynx is actually running, how does one know just WHAT key string to use ?? Doug I have been reading back post about your lynx problem. A lightbulb lit. The only time I get the message Can't access startfile is when 1. The local html file I told lynx to read isn't there or I mistyped the file name. or 2. If I tried to access a web site and had not brought up the 'net! Do you have ppp working? I think I recall you saying the you could only ping one of your name servers. Can you ping www.debian.org? This is a strange problem as I do not recall the newest newbie ever having this much problem with lynx. Maybe you should try reloading it. -- If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake him up. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 08:15:05PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: how to tell where is a local html file ?? I only know about whereis for finding files and it doesn't recognize wildcards :( try: STARTFILE:file://localhost/usr/doc/lynx/lynx_help/lynx_help_main.html in /etc/lynx.cfg This is the default locatuion for the lynx help file. or make this file to point lynx at: --cut here-- html head titleThis is a dummy page/title /head body Lynx should be displaying this page I hope /body /html --cut here-- alternatively you can specify a URL on the command line: bash$ lynx http://www.debian.org tried that a hundred times always STARTFILE not found Hmmm... This suggests a problem with your internet connection: is your connection up when you try this? did you configure nameservers for your location? do other network apps function ok (ftp, telnet)? none of that is much use if I can't get to any URL in first place :( That's why it's at the end :) -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 39679408
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Does anyone know of a real basic web browser thats simple to setup configure. I am fast running out of patience with lynx due to its virtually useless documentation and excessively complicated config file.
Re: Lynx Problems
Doug Young wrote: Does anyone know of a real basic web browser thats simple to setup configure. I am fast running out of patience with lynx due to its virtually useless documentation and excessively complicated config file. you are thinking in terms of netscape or similar? why don't you just install it? gerhard
Re: Lynx Problems
I'm in danger of displaying and attitude here... I use netscape but consider it to be the worst piece of software that I have on any Linux box of mine. GUI web browsers that I have used on Linux are all junk in my opinion! Lynx OTOH is a typical UNIX program. I have never seen Lynx crash, hang, or fail in any way and have never heard anyone else claim that it has for them. Lynx help is VERY good. The help and keystroke pages are treated just like any other web page except that there is no waiting for a response! For all the years that I have used Lynx, I have to admit that so far I have not even scratched the capability of that program. You can search the help pages with /key string which can be quite handy. Probably the biggest problem for people used to netscape type browsers is that Lynx with do everything that they do (sans waste bandwidth downloading huge, and usually useless, graphic images) and a whole lot more but things are done in a different way. On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 08:07:11AM +0200, Gerhard Kroder wrote: Doug Young wrote: Does anyone know of a real basic web browser thats simple to setup configure. I am fast running out of patience with lynx due to its virtually useless documentation and excessively complicated config file. you are thinking in terms of netscape or similar? why don't you just install it? gerhard -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
