Re: Movemail not getting emails
Bob Proulx put forth on 11/8/2010 5:34 PM: http://www.zoneedit.com/ http://dnspark.com/ http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ https://web.easydns.com/ Thanks for this list Bob. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd90cc0.9020...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 7:54 PM: http://dnspark.com/ I liked that. looked professional.. CHEAP.. gets my vote! Looks hard to beat. $8.95/domain per year. However, I'd be concerned with this: Excess queries are billed based on actual usage monthly. The price is calculated by using the the largest group of queries possible and rounded to the nearest million. For example, if 21,538,000 queries were used in a single month, the overage charge would be $85. (10 million extra at $48, 5 million extra at $26, and 2 million at $11) If this is legit, you have no worries Paul, as your query volume would never reach 1 mil/month and the baseline is 5 mil/month. However, if this outfit is shady, they can simply fabricate query numbers and charge you whatever they want. I'm not saying this is the case, but it's a possibility. You may want to try to find some reputation on this outfit. They're considerably cheaper than the competition--may be a reason for that. Again, if they're totally above board, it'd be hard to go with someone else based on price and features. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd9114c.3090...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I don't (yet) have any personal experience with these vendors. But by coincidence I have been shopping around for DNS hosting for a commercial client and these are on the short list of DNS hosting providers that I located after a brief search this week. You might look at them and compare costs. The first two look to be the price performance leaders. you didn't look at or know about either TZO or dyndns? just curious I didn't know about TZO and didn't look at DynDNS. I did know about DynDNS. But both of those wouldn't have been on my radar screen since they both seemed targeted to hosts with dynamic IP addresses. Since I was only interested in standard DNS (static IPs) I wouldn't have looked at those. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright wrote: http://www.zoneedit.com/ I didn't like zoneedits web pag(s) AT ALL.. no back button, no menus from some pages.. ugly.. Doesn't your web browser have a back button? Sorry. I had to comment there. :-) But I agree that it is definitely a very old-school basic html site. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/09/2010 12:50 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: you didn't look at or know about either TZO or dyndns? just curious I didn't know about TZO and didn't look at DynDNS. I did know about DynDNS. But both of those wouldn't have been on my radar screen since they both seemed targeted to hosts with dynamic IP addresses. Since I was only interested in standard DNS (static IPs) I wouldn't have looked at those. I didn't think so either, til I found this: http://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/custom.html How is Custom DNS different than Dynamic DNS? Unlike Dynamic DNS, which offers a single host record and MX record using one of our pre-existing domain names, Custom DNS works with your own registered domain, supports a wide variety of record types http://www.dyndns.com/support/kb/record_types_supported_in_custom_dns_expert_interface.html, allows you to create up to 75 records, and a number of other benefits. Both services feature dynamic IP updates using update clients. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd99a69.2020...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:18:41 -0600 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: ... Frankly speaking, trying to setup and operate your own DNS servers would cost you more in time and treasure than simply paying for DNS service. As I stated earlier, I pay $5/month for DNS service with TZO (paid yearly). The service they sell is dynamic dns service geared toward residential broadband users, much like dyndns.org. The big difference WRT dyndns.org is that you use your own real domain name, which enables you to run your own MX host, i.e. inbound mail server. dyndns does offer DNS for real TLD names: DynDNS Custom: Managed DNS Hosting Solution Only $29.95/year DynDNS Custom is our all-in-one managed DNS hosting solution for top level domains (ie. www.yourwebsite.com). With simple web-interface, running on five geographically diverse servers to put you in complete control of your zones and ensure your domain's DNS resolution never fails. http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/custom/ Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101109201622.84074087.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Camaleón put forth on 11/8/2010 1:31 AM: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:59:35 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: # postconf -n (...) home_mailbox = Maildir/ (...) mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION mailbox_command has preference over home_mailbox :-) So you are sending your e-mails to Procmail instead Dovecot. Try by removing that variable (mailbox_command =) or you'll have to tell Procmail where to store e-mails. Remember to reload Postfix (/etc/init.d/postfix reload) after any change in main.cf. If I understand Paul's setup correctly, Postfix isn't used at all for inbound mail. There is no MX record that points to his Linux host IP and his external provider, JustHost, does not forward the mail to his Postfix daemon. Paul fetches all his mail from JustHost with fetchmail. Please clarify if this is the case Paul. If it is, making changes to the Postfix config files is irrelevant, and we shouldn't be discussing Postfix at all as its not involved in your problems. And, if you're not relaying mail through this Linux box, you could simply uninstall Postfix altogether as it's not needed. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd7af67.7070...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/7/2010 5:59 PM: It looks like the pricing for Google Apps is $50 per account per year. That's gotta be less the what you're paying for the pain pills you've been popping due to the headaches over this mail configuration issue. :) It's free for a max of either 5 or 10 accounts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=ofcis_0panmqcdbpeyuc2ocnns-gwgccx4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Lu, 08 nov 10, 01:45:56, Stan Hoeppner wrote: It looks like the pricing for Google Apps is $50 per account per year. That's gotta be less the what you're paying for the pain pills you've been popping due to the headaches over this mail configuration issue. :) Gmail and Google Apps have their own set of quirks... Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 02:05:59 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Camaleón put forth on 11/8/2010 1:31 AM: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:59:35 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: # postconf -n (...) home_mailbox = Maildir/ (...) mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION mailbox_command has preference over home_mailbox :-) So you are sending your e-mails to Procmail instead Dovecot. Try by removing that variable (mailbox_command =) or you'll have to tell Procmail where to store e-mails. Remember to reload Postfix (/etc/init.d/postfix reload) after any change in main.cf. If I understand Paul's setup correctly, Postfix isn't used at all for inbound mail. There is no MX record that points to his Linux host IP and his external provider, JustHost, does not forward the mail to his Postfix daemon. Paul fetches all his mail from JustHost with fetchmail. He is using a similar setup than mine and here I'm using Postfix for local e-mail delivery (Fetchmail → Postfix → Cyrus (imap sever). It has its uses and it turns out to be a very flexible and power solution. The only difference is that I'n not using Procmail at all. Please clarify if this is the case Paul. If it is, making changes to the Postfix config files is irrelevant, and we shouldn't be discussing Postfix at all as its not involved in your problems. And, if you're not relaying mail through this Linux box, you could simply uninstall Postfix altogether as it's not needed. I would leave Postfix (or any other MTA) while using Dovecot. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.08.08.23...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Tom H put forth on 11/8/2010 2:09 AM: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/7/2010 5:59 PM: It looks like the pricing for Google Apps is $50 per account per year. That's gotta be less the what you're paying for the pain pills you've been popping due to the headaches over this mail configuration issue. :) It's free for a max of either 5 or 10 accounts. Even better. I've not used it myself, but know of many small biz shops who ditched their local mail servers for Google Apps mail. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd7b721.7070...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 02:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: $ host paulandcilla.homelinux.org paulandcilla.homelinux.org A 192.168.10.2 Umm, wtf? You've got a public DNS A record pointing to an RFC 1918 private non-routable IP address. $ dig MX pcartwright.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: pcartwright.com. 14400 IN MX 0 pcartwright.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: pcartwright.com. 14400 IN A 69.175.91.154 So, paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a bogus local hostname for your Debian workstation. It appears you actually have a real domain, pcartwright.com, hosted by JustHost on the SingleHop network (unfortunately a known spammer haven) in its Chicago datacenter. ok, you are mixing apples and oranges.. yes, I have and USE my own domain, and ( unfortunately) I use justhost for my hosting. I didn't realize they were a spammers heaven when I signed up, I was LEAVING a hosting service that had issue with my ISP blocking my domain email.. ( long story, can you say ATT?). paulandcilla.homelinux.org is my dyndns domain with a static IP. obviously I couldn't fill in my postfix info with my domain info, because I am NOT the host. ALL I wanted to do was setup a local IMAP server so I could use fetchmail to pull in my domain email to debian, and be able to also get to it via IMAP from my ( and my wifes) laptops, here locally, in my local subdomain ( and maybe later from the real outside public world..). my domain email is ONLY for me my wife ( kids too..), I've had it for 10+ years, almost as long as my yahoo account. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On 11/08/2010 02:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: $ host paulandcilla.homelinux.org paulandcilla.homelinux.org A 192.168.10.2 You've got a public DNS A record pointing to an RFC 1918 private non-routable IP address. So, paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a bogus local hostname for your Debian workstation. It appears you actually have a real domain, pcartwright.com, hosted by JustHost on the SingleHop network (unfortunately a known spammer haven) in its Chicago datacenter. paulandcilla.homelinux.org is my dyndns domain with a static IP. If you want paulandcilla.homelinux.org to be internet-facing, you should have a dyndns ip address for it (as you have for homelinux.org) rather than a private, 192.168. one. Neither I (nor Stan, nor anyone else) should be able to query a public DNS database (for example Google's, with dig @8.8.8.8 paulandcilla.homelinux.org) and get 192.168.10.2 as a result. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikqaobj=rnhwvncuetsdrhxu8fejjn5_sx8b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 06:40 AM, Tom H wrote: pre wrap=If you want paulandcilla.homelinux.org to be internet-facing, you should have a dyndns ip address for it (as you have for homelinux.org) rather than a private, 192.168. one. Neither I (nor Stan, nor anyone else) should be able to query a public DNS database (for example Google's, with dig @8.8.8.8 paulandcilla.homelinux.org) and get 192.168.10.2 as a result. right, I can change that, but that isn't my issue. Since I am inside my router, in my 192.168.10 subdomain, and all my host files show 192.168.10.X addresses, it works for me, here:) my issue is getting fetchmail to get my email into my local IMAP folder. see postfix/main.cf: mydestination = paulandcilla.homelinux.org, localhost # uname -a Linux paulandcilla.homelinux.org 2.6.26-2-686 # grep Maildir main.cf home_mailbox = Maildir/ all I want is for postfix to put my local email into my local IMAP folder /home/$USER/Maildir. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 5:19 AM: On 11/08/2010 02:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: $ host paulandcilla.homelinux.org paulandcilla.homelinux.org A 192.168.10.2 Umm, wtf? You've got a public DNS A record pointing to an RFC 1918 private non-routable IP address. $ dig MX pcartwright.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: pcartwright.com. 14400 IN MX 0 pcartwright.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: pcartwright.com. 14400 IN A 69.175.91.154 So, paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a bogus local hostname for your Debian workstation. It appears you actually have a real domain, pcartwright.com, hosted by JustHost on the SingleHop network (unfortunately a known spammer haven) in its Chicago datacenter. ok, you are mixing apples and oranges.. yes, I have and USE my own domain, and ( unfortunately) I use justhost for my hosting. I didn't realize they were a spammers heaven when I signed up, I was LEAVING a hosting service that had issue with my ISP blocking my domain email.. ( long story, can you say ATT?). paulandcilla.homelinux.org is my dyndns domain with a static IP. obviously I couldn't fill in my postfix info with my domain info, because I am NOT the host. ALL I wanted to do was setup a local IMAP server so I could use fetchmail to pull in my domain email to debian, and be able to also get to it via IMAP from my ( and my wifes) laptops, here locally, in my local subdomain ( and maybe later from the real outside public world..). my domain email is ONLY for me my wife ( kids too..), I've had it for 10+ years, almost as long as my yahoo account. How am I mixing anything? I'm simply stating fact: you have a hodge podge of redundant and unnecessary email accounts/addresses. And attempting to keep them all maintained and attempt to provide yourself relatively easy access to them, and organization of them, it causing you much grief. Get rid of all them, and settle on one address/account hosted in a single place. Just for the record, and I'll put it on a separate line for easier quoting How many email addresses do you have Paul for which you are attempting to consolidate access? Please list the addresses, replacing @ with at to prevent spammer scraping. I'm just curious what we're really trying to assist with here. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd7ffb2.1050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:17:58 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: (...) all I want is for postfix to put my local email into my local IMAP folder /home/$USER/Maildir. I alredy told you some tips: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/11/msg00573.html Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.08.14.29...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 7:17 AM: all I want is for postfix to put my local email into my local IMAP folder /home/$USER/Maildir. If you're using Dovecot, simply configure Postfix to use Dovecot LDA. Simple. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd81a79.9040...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails-SOLVED
On 11/08/2010 09:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: all I want is for postfix to put my local email into my local IMAP folder /home/$USER/Maildir. I alredy told you some tips: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/11/msg00573.html that was THE ANSWER! If you sent that before, I must have missed it. all I did was comment out the line in /etc/postfix/main.cf: #mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION now this line WORKS: home_mailbox = Maildir/ wonderful! thank you! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 10:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If you're using Dovecot, simply configure Postfix to use Dovecot LDA. Simple. Camaleon got it.. I had the right line in postfix/main.cf: home_mailbox = Maildir/ but I had to comment out this line: #mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION now it works. now email comes into Debian, and goes to my IMAP inbox. Now I can use thunderbird on my desktop, thunderbird on my laptop, or squirrelmail anywhere.. perfect. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd81f24.9070...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 08:48 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: How am I mixing anything? I'm simply stating fact: you have a hodge podge of redundant and unnecessary email accounts/addresses. And attempting to keep them all maintained and attempt to provide yourself relatively easy access to them, and organization of them, it causing you much grief. redundant unnecessary? I use domain accounts for email lists... deb...@.. ale@ (local Atlanta Linux Users group).. all of my domain emails are brought into my Debian desktop box using fetchmail. I want them all to come in via IMAP, to an IMAP folder, which now works. How many email addresses do you have Paul for which you are attempting to consolidate access? Please list the addresses, replacing @ with at to prevent spammer scraping. I'm just curious what we're really trying to assist with here. it is all in a /etc/fetchmailrc script, works fine, using fetchall, none left on my domain host servers, all pulled into my Debian box. If I ever have to ( probably..) switch domain hosts again, it will be the easiest way to already have my email locally stored. I have a yahoo account that I use for some throw-away sign-up-crap.. that has nothing to do with this. I don't get or want email from my dyndns domain, my local machine name, paulandcilla.homelinux.org, I just use it to host a small web site with family pictures, photos, etc.. not even sure if you can get to it outside my router, I think so.. but now I have the IMAP setup that I wanted, so life is good. thanks, -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd820ec.4090...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On 11/08/2010 06:40 AM, Tom H wrote: If you want paulandcilla.homelinux.org to be internet-facing, you should have a dyndns ip address for it (as you have for homelinux.org) rather than a private, 192.168. one. Neither I (nor Stan, nor anyone else) should be able to query a public DNS database (for example Google's, with dig @8.8.8.8 paulandcilla.homelinux.org) and get 192.168.10.2 as a result. right, I can change that, but that isn't my issue. Since I am inside my router, in my 192.168.10 subdomain, and all my host files show 192.168.10.X addresses, it works for me, here. I realize that it's not your issue. I was just re-pointing out a misconfiguration that Stan pointed out. Unless you're using that DNS server to provide DNS services within your network (I can only say wow! if you are), it's pointless entry because no one external to your network can reach that box with either 192.168.10.2 or paulandcilla.homelinux.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=7tvpas6m6fr4fkvvv1dr5hafvrvdvk0gug...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 10:02 AM: On 11/08/2010 10:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If you're using Dovecot, simply configure Postfix to use Dovecot LDA. Simple. Camaleon got it.. I had the right line in postfix/main.cf: home_mailbox = Maildir/ but I had to comment out this line: #mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION now it works. now email comes into Debian, and goes to my IMAP inbox. Now I can use thunderbird on my desktop, thunderbird on my laptop, or squirrelmail anywhere.. perfect. If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're better off using: mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/ There are a couple of reasons for this: 1. Deliver is Dovecots native LDA it updates your Dovecot index files during delivery instead of waiting until you access the mailbox 2. If you use, or plan to use Sieve (and ManageSieve) LDA will will automatically sort your mails for you This is very handy if you run webmail because your emails are sorted automatically whether you log into webmail or fire up Thunderbird I use Postfix+Dovecot+LDA+Sieve+Lighttpd+Roundcube and it works beautifully. I don't use ManageSieve however. I write Sieve scripts manually. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd82880.10...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 11:41 AM, Tom H wrote: I realize that it's not your issue. I was just re-pointing out a misconfiguration that Stan pointed out. Unless you're using that DNS server to provide DNS services within your network (I can only say wow! if you are), it's pointless entry because no one external to your network can reach that box with either 192.168.10.2 or paulandcilla.homelinux.org. hm, not sure about that.. paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a dyndns fake domain that points to my routers static IP.. I maybe have recently turned off port forwarding to apache, but I had been running a small web server for family pictures.. and you could get to it BY NAME, from outside my router.. and I am SURE I have lots of stuff misconfigured, that's why I'm on this LIST asking so many stupid questions:) thanks! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd82f9f.4090...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 10:10 AM: it is all in a /etc/fetchmailrc script, works fine, using fetchall, none left on my domain host servers, all pulled into my Debian box. If I ever have to ( probably..) switch domain hosts again, it will be the easiest way to already have my email locally stored. I have a yahoo account that I use for some throw-away sign-up-crap.. that has nothing to do with this. I don't get or want email from my dyndns domain, my local machine name, paulandcilla.homelinux.org, I just use it to host a small web site with family pictures, photos, etc.. not even sure if you can get to it outside my router, I think so.. but now I have the IMAP setup that I wanted, so life is good. thanks, If all the mail you care to bring into that box is to addressed to addresses at your pcartwright.com domain, then why don't you simply change the MX pointer for your domain to the static IP of your Linux box, and configure Postfix to accept mail for pcartwright.com? I.e. why bother with having your mail spooled at some provider, and why bother paying them for it, when you can do it all yourself? Is the website hosted on your Linux desktop? If so, just pay a yearly fee for DNS and have all DNS records point to the static IP of your Linux box (the public IP on the outside of your broadband NAT router that is). I pay TZO $60/year for dynamic or static DNS hosting, and Dotster $15/year for my domain. So for $75/year I get my domain and I get MX resolution to my Postfix server, and wildcard A record resolution for everything else. All email comes straight to my Postfix server, no need for middlemen and associated costs. You've mentioned in previous posts that you've got plenty of UPS due to the weather and tall trees there in Georgia. If you trust the stability of your Linux box, and you're not monkeying with it regularly and possibly breaking Postfix/Dovecot, you should go the route I've have, not necessarily with the same providers. What I'm saying is, you've got all the infrastructure in place to host everything yourself (sans the DNS servers), so as the Nike commercial says: Just do it. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8350c.6080...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 11:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're better off using: mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/ I read a few Debian-dovecot-Postfix HOW-To's and I don't remember reading about mailbox_command, but I might very well have missed it.. There are a couple of reasons for this: 1. Deliver is Dovecots native LDA it updates your Dovecot index files during delivery instead of waiting until you access the mailbox 2. If you use, or plan to use Sieve (and ManageSieve) LDA will will automatically sort your mails for you This is very handy if you run webmail because your emails are sorted automatically whether you log into webmail or fire up Thunderbird thanks, I'll give that a try later today ! wait, I tried it, it works! I use Postfix+Dovecot+LDA+Sieve+Lighttpd+Roundcube and it works beautifully. I don't use ManageSieve however. I write Sieve scripts manually. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd835ba.1030...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 11:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're better off using: mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/ There are a couple of reasons for this: when I tried that, I got this error in dovecot.log: paulandcilla:/var/log# tail dovecot.log 2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:54 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:55 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:56 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:59 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:59 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:39:00 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:40:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given there is a line in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf file: #postmaster_address = but when I tried to uncomment that, restarting dovecot failed: /etc/init.d/dovecot restart Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 759: Unknown setting: postmaster_address -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8386f.2070...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 12:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If all the mail you care to bring into that box is to addressed to addresses at your pcartwright.com domain, then why don't you simply change the MX pointer for your domain to the static IP of your Linux box, and configure Postfix to accept mail for pcartwright.com? I WANTED to do that originally.. that was MY PLAN :) I.e. why bother with having your mail spooled at some provider, and why bother paying them for it, when you can do it all yourself? Is the website hosted on your Linux desktop? If so, just pay a yearly fee for DNS and have all DNS records point to the static IP of your Linux box (the public IP on the outside of your broadband NAT router that is). I pay TZO $60/year for dynamic or static DNS hosting, and Dotster $15/year for my domain. So for $75/year I get my domain and I get MX resolution to my Postfix server, and wildcard A record resolution for everything else. All email comes straight to my Postfix server, no need for middlemen and associated costs. I already have a static IP from my ISP, Atlantic Nexus. I CAN do email from them, but there are problems with people ISPs that will not accept email from static IPs with no Domain host behind them.. what am I missing.. You've mentioned in previous posts that you've got plenty of UPS due to the weather and tall trees there in Georgia. If you trust the stability of your Linux box, and you're not monkeying with it regularly and possibly breaking Postfix/Dovecot, you should go the route I've have, not necessarily with the same providers. my box stays up all the time.. 24X7X365, except for an ocaissional reboot for.. kernel upgrades, etc.. What I'm saying is, you've got all the infrastructure in place to host everything yourself (sans the DNS servers), so as the Nike commercial says: Just do it. that IS my goal.. getting IMAP working was a good leap in the right direction. Last time I dropped my domain provider tried to host it myself, I didn't have the infrastructure in place.. DNS, MX... I thought you need two IPs for MX records. or am I confusing things.(again) -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd83bd3.7050...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:39:06 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/08/2010 11:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're better off using: mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/ I read a few Debian-dovecot-Postfix HOW-To's and I don't remember reading about mailbox_command, but I might very well have missed it.. http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix :-) There are a couple of reasons for this: 1. Deliver is Dovecots native LDA it updates your Dovecot index files during delivery instead of waiting until you access the mailbox 2. If you use, or plan to use Sieve (and ManageSieve) LDA will will automatically sort your mails for you This is very handy if you run webmail because your emails are sorted automatically whether you log into webmail or fire up Thunderbird thanks, I'll give that a try later today ! wait, I tried it, it works! As you can see, there are many choices. And having a working imap+mta solution it makes very easy to upgrade or adding new features (i.e., virtual users or multiple domains). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.08.18.08...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On 11/08/2010 11:41 AM, Tom H wrote: I realize that it's not your issue. I was just re-pointing out a misconfiguration that Stan pointed out. Unless you're using that DNS server to provide DNS services within your network (I can only say wow! if you are), it's pointless entry because no one external to your network can reach that box with either 192.168.10.2 or paulandcilla.homelinux.org. hm, not sure about that.. paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a dyndns fake domain that points to my routers static IP.. There's no way that dyndns is using a private adress. What happens if ten others have a 192.168.10.2 box, use the same DNS server that you do, and decide to create an entry for that box on that DNS server? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimleaahntojxe6g7hfld-rbqy2=eyua7gtop...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:50:39 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 11/08/2010 11:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're
better off using:
mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver
and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/
There are a couple of reasons for this:
when I tried that, I got this error in dovecot.log:
paulandcilla:/var/log# tail dovecot.log 2010-11-08 12:35:52
deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given
2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not
given
There must be any mistake in your dovecot.conf :-?
there is a line in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf file:
#postmaster_address =
but when I tried to uncomment that, restarting dovecot failed:
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart
Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration
file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 759: Unknown setting:
postmaster_address
Mmmm, recheck your settings, review all the curly brackets aperture/close
{} stanzas (they have to properly match), review the syntax and look for
leading empty/blank spaces...
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Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 01:08 PM, Camaleón wrote: http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix nice link thanks! :-) There are a couple of reasons for this: 1. Deliver is Dovecots native LDA it updates your Dovecot index files during delivery instead of waiting until you access the mailbox 2. If you use, or plan to use Sieve (and ManageSieve) LDA will will automatically sort your mails for you This is very handy if you run webmail because your emails are sorted automatically whether you log into webmail or fire up Thunderbird thanks, I'll give that a try later today ! wait, I tried it, it works! As you can see, there are many choices. And having a working imap+mta solution it makes very easy to upgrade or adding new features (i.e., virtual users or multiple domains). yes, and it really does feel good to get IMAP working! thanks! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd84069.5020...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 01:11 PM, Camaleón wrote:
There must be any mistake in your dovecot.conf :-?
there is a line in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf file:
#postmaster_address =
but when I tried to uncomment that, restarting dovecot failed:
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart
Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration
file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 759: Unknown setting:
postmaster_address
Mmmm, recheck your settings, review all the curly brackets aperture/close
{} stanzas (they have to properly match), review the syntax and look for
leading empty/blank spaces...
vi /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
uncomment the postmaster_address=
restart dovecot:
/etc/init.d/dovecot restart
Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration
file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 760: Unknown setting: postmaster_address
Fatal: Invalid configuration in /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
failed!
I see the problem.. that line was underneath a curly brace that was
commented out:
protocol lda {
# Address to use when sending rejection mails (e.g.
postmas...@example.com).
#postmaster_address =
postmaster_address=...@localhost
snip many lines
#}
once I uncommented out the { and } IT WORKED.
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Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 01:11 PM, Tom H wrote: hm, not sure about that.. paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a dyndns fake domain that points to my routers static IP.. There's no way that dyndns is using a private adress. What happens if ten others have a 192.168.10.2 box, use the same DNS server that you do, and decide to create an entry for that box on that DNS server? no, dyndns is using my static IP 207.65 whatever.. so I just need to change that entry from the 198 to the 207 entry.. I will do that! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd84319.6080...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 11:39 AM:
On 11/08/2010 11:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're
better off using:
mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver
and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/
I read a few Debian-dovecot-Postfix HOW-To's and I don't remember
reading about mailbox_command, but I might very well have missed it..
http://wiki1.dovecot.org/LDA
http://wiki1.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix
There are a couple of reasons for this:
1. Deliver is Dovecots native LDA
it updates your Dovecot index files during delivery
instead of waiting until you access the mailbox
2. If you use, or plan to use Sieve (and ManageSieve)
LDA will will automatically sort your mails for you
This is very handy if you run webmail because
your emails are sorted automatically whether you
log into webmail or fire up Thunderbird
thanks, I'll give that a try later today !
wait, I tried it, it works!
Now configure Sieve and write your sorting scripts. Beats the hell out
of TBird's sorting rules, especially if you use your webmail to access
your mailbox when the TB rules aren't running. :)
http://wiki1.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve
Here's a sample sieve script to learn with. It's my sieve script with
personal addresses removed:
/home/stan$ cat .dovecot.sieve
require fileinto;
if false {}
elsif header :contains List-Id linux-ide.vger.kernel.org {
fileinto 1-Linux-IDE;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id linux-raid.vger.kernel.org {
fileinto 1-Linux-RAID;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id linux-scsi.vger.kernel.org {
fileinto 1-Linux-SCSI;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id XFS {
fileinto 1-XFS;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Post postfix-us...@postfix.org {
fileinto 1-Postfix-Users;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id users.lists.roundcube.net {
fileinto 1-Roundcube;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id dovecot.dovecot.org {
fileinto 1-Dovecot;
stop;
}
elsif address :contains to postmas...@hardwarefreak.com {
fileinto Postmaster;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains Received for postmas...@hardwarefreak.com {
fileinto Postmaster;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id debian-user.lists.debian.org {
fileinto 1-Debian-Users;
stop;
}
elsif header :contains List-Id spam-l.spam-l.com {
fileinto 1-Spam-l;
stop;
}
else {
fileinto INBOX;
}
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Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 11:50 AM: On 11/08/2010 11:42 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: If you are indeed using Dovecot (I can't recall what you said), you're better off using: mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver and commenting #home_mailbox = Maildir/ There are a couple of reasons for this: when I tried that, I got this error in dovecot.log: paulandcilla:/var/log# tail dovecot.log 2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:35:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:54 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:55 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:56 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:59 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:38:59 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:39:00 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given 2010-11-08 12:40:52 deliver(pbc): Fatal: postmaster_address setting not given there is a line in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf file: #postmaster_address = but when I tried to uncomment that, restarting dovecot failed: /etc/init.d/dovecot restart Restarting IMAP/POP3 mail server: dovecotError: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 759: Unknown setting: postmaster_address Change that to the postmaster address for your domain. I'd probably make it your personal email address p...@pcartwright.com, or whatever it is. It's required if bounces occur. It's the from address in any bounce messages Dovecot generates. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8473c.9010...@hardwarefreak.com
Dovecot- WAS Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 01:50 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
elsif header :contains List-Id dovecot.dovecot.org {
fileinto 1-Dovecot;
stop;
}
I tried apt-cache sieve * apt-cache dovecot, but I don't see a package..
is this a ./configure source app??
I see you subscribe to dovecot, do you also use the dovecot-antispam
package?
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Re: Dovecot- WAS Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 02:26 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: I tried apt-cache sieve * apt-cache dovecot, but I don't see a package.. is this a ./configure source app?? I see you subscribe to dovecot, do you also use the dovecot-antispam package? from: dovecot-1.2-sieve-0.1.18 folder, tried : ./configure --with-dovecot=/usr/lib/dovecot SNIP dovecot-config not found from /usr/lib/dovecot, use --with-dovecot=PATH to give path to compiled Dovecot sources or to a directory with the installed dovecot-config file. configure: error: dovecot-config not found is this more a dovecot list question? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8511a.1080...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 12:05 PM: I already have a static IP from my ISP, Atlantic Nexus. I CAN do email from them, but there are problems with people ISPs that will not accept email from static IPs with no Domain host behind them.. what am I missing.. I think you're misunderstanding the technology and terminology. Dynamic or static IP refers to the type of IP address assignment to your broadband router, whether DSL or cable. It's the public IP in your house, for the lack of a more technical description. Who is your broadband provider? Is your IP from them static or dynamic? Either way you can still host your own mail server. It's just easier if it's static. that IS my goal.. getting IMAP working was a good leap in the right direction. Last time I dropped my domain provider tried to host it myself, I didn't have the infrastructure in place.. DNS, MX... I thought you need two IPs for MX records. or am I confusing things.(again) If doing DNS yourself, you need two physical machines to host the zones, a master and a slave, with a public IP address bound to each, each accessible from the internet. An MX record is simply a record that says deliver email for domain.tld to smtp.domain.tld. smtp.domain.tld is an A record that points to the IP address of your router. You map TCP port 25 on the router to the private IP address of your Postfix server. That's pretty much it. Frankly speaking, trying to setup and operate your own DNS servers would cost you more in time and treasure than simply paying for DNS service. As I stated earlier, I pay $5/month for DNS service with TZO (paid yearly). The service they sell is dynamic dns service geared toward residential broadband users, much like dyndns.org. The big difference WRT dyndns.org is that you use your own real domain name, which enables you to run your own MX host, i.e. inbound mail server. The only thing required is a TZO enabled router, or software running on a Linux or Windows server. This is what sends your dynamic IP address to the DNS servers when your ISP changes it. It works very well. I've been a customer since 2005 and not had a single issue, either when I had dynamic IP service or static IP service. Setup is very easy, if you have basic knowledge of DNS. If you don't, Google and this list are your friends. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd85b21.8060...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 03:18 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 12:05 PM: I already have a static IP from my ISP, Atlantic Nexus. I CAN do email from them, but there are problems with people ISPs that will not accept email from static IPs with no Domain host behind them.. what am I missing.. I think you're misunderstanding the technology and terminology. Dynamic or static IP refers to the type of IP address assignment to your broadband router, whether DSL or cable. It's the public IP in your house, for the lack of a more technical description. no, my Static IP is from my ISP Who is your broadband provider? Is your IP from them static or dynamic? Either way you can still host your own mail server. It's just easier if it's static. my ISP is Atlantic Nexus, atnex.net they provided the static IP.. $5 a month:) that IS my goal.. getting IMAP working was a good leap in the right direction. Last time I dropped my domain provider tried to host it myself, I didn't have the infrastructure in place.. DNS, MX... I thought you need two IPs for MX records. or am I confusing things.(again) If doing DNS yourself, you need two physical machines to host the zones, a master and a slave, with a public IP address bound to each, each accessible from the internet. THAT's the part I don't have.. I only have a single static IP... An MX record is simply a record that says deliver email for domain.tld to smtp.domain.tld. smtp.domain.tld is an A record that points to the IP address of your router. You map TCP port 25 on the router to the private IP address of your Postfix server. That's pretty much it. right, port forwarding.. I do that now for my web server.. Frankly speaking, trying to setup and operate your own DNS servers would cost you more in time and treasure than simply paying for DNS service. As I stated earlier, I pay $5/month for DNS service with TZO (paid yearly). The service they sell is dynamic dns service geared toward residential broadband users, much like dyndns.org. The big difference WRT dyndns.org is that you use your own real domain name, which enables you to run your own MX host, i.e. inbound mail server. The only thing required is a TZO enabled router, or software running on a Linux or Windows server. This is what sends your dynamic IP address to the DNS servers when your ISP changes it. It works very well. I've been a customer since 2005 and not had a single issue, either when I had dynamic IP service or static IP service. Setup is very easy, if you have basic knowledge of DNS. If you don't, Google and this list are your friends. :) the reason I GOT a static IP was just for a mail server.. That's why I got the dyndns domain, to play with it, get it working, THEN move my real domain.. never got that far because of the lack of 2 DNS servers.. so what you are saying is, I could do it with a DNS hosting service like TZO. So I would trade my domain hosting fee for a DNS hosting fee, and have all my emails come DIRECTLY to my local server ( do not pass go:).. on TZO all I see is services with a dynamic IP, or maybe I am missing it.. I do have a static IP, I DO I do I do :) -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8649d.4050...@pcartwright.com
Re: Dovecot- WAS Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 1:26 PM:
On 11/08/2010 01:50 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
elsif header :contains List-Id dovecot.dovecot.org {
fileinto 1-Dovecot;
stop;
}
I tried apt-cache sieve * apt-cache dovecot, but I don't see a package..
is this a ./configure source app??
You apparently don't enjoy reading .conf files. :) Sieve is a Dovecot
plugin that you enable in dovecot.conf. It's not a package. :)
You need to read your /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf, in fact print it and
sit down with it for a few nights to familiarize yourself with it. Any
time you need clarification, visit the Dovecot wiki. The files should
already be on your system. Look for
/usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.la
/usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.so
I see you subscribe to dovecot, do you also use the dovecot-antispam
package?
It's not a package. It's another plugin. ;)
Fighting spam is properly done with your MTA, Postfix in your case, and
mine. It's better to reject spam during the delivery attempt than to
eat it and then analyze it and delete it with a content filter such as
SpamAssassin. So, no, I don't use Dovecot anti-spam to train a content
filter. I don't use a content filter. I use this for killing spam and
whitelisting:
header_checks = pcre:/etc/postfix/header_checks,
regexp:/etc/postfix/phish419.regexp, tcp:[127.0.0.1]:2526
smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
permit_mynetworks
reject_unauth_destination
check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/blacklist
check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/whitelist
check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/whitelist
check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/whitelist
check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/auto-whtlst
check_client_access proxy:${cidr}/dnswl
reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname
reject_non_fqdn_sender
reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname
reject_invalid_helo_hostname
reject_unknown_helo_hostname
reject_unlisted_recipient
check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/blacklist
check_client_access proxy:pcre:/etc/postfix/fqrdns.pcre
check_client_access proxy:pcre:/etc/postfix/ptr-tld.pcre
check_client_access proxy:${cidr}/countries
check_client_access proxy:${cidr}/spammer
check_client_access proxy:${cidr}/misc-spam-srcs
reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org
reject_rbl_client psbl.surriel.com
reject_rhsbl_client dbl.spamhaus.org
reject_rhsbl_sender dbl.spamhaus.org
reject_rhsbl_helo dbl.spamhaus.org
check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:6
Currently I'm averaging about 3-5 spams per week making it into my
inbox. Installing that resource hog known as SpamAssassin might cut it
down to 0-2 per week, if that. However, installing amavisd-new and
spamd on my server will likely double the current memory usage and eat a
lot of CPU, just for the sake of catching that last 1% or less of spam
which is easily dealt with via the DEL key. Remember, the goal of an
antispam solution is not to eliminate _all_ spam from your inbox, but to
make the amount of spam easily manageable. I think I've achieved that
here. YMMV.
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Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 03:18 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: The only thing required is a TZO enabled router, or software running on a Linux or Windows server. This is what sends your dynamic IP address to the DNS servers when your ISP changes it. It works very well. I've been a customer since 2005 and not had a single issue, either when I had dynamic IP service or static IP service. Setup is very easy, if you have basic knowledge of DNS. If you don't, Google and this list are your friends. :) is this what you are talking about: https://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/custom/ I mean, for $29 a year... that would work! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd866f4.6050...@pcartwright.com
Re: Dovecot- WAS Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 03:59 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I tried apt-cache sieve * apt-cache dovecot, but I don't see a package.. is this a ./configure source app?? You apparently don't enjoy reading .conf files. :) Sieve is a Dovecot plugin that you enable in dovecot.conf. It's not a package. :) well, I went HERE: http://wiki1.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve and it references downloading the package here: http://wiki1.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve/Dovecot Getting the sources You can get the Dovecot Sieve plugin at this web page http://www.rename-it.nl/dovecot/1.2/. http://www.rename-it.nl/dovecot/1.2/ so.. I guess I was misled:) You need to read your /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf, in fact print it and sit down with it for a few nights to familiarize yourself with it. Any time you need clarification, visit the Dovecot wiki. The files should already be on your system. Look for /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.la /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.so thanks, I love wikis:) I see you subscribe to dovecot, do you also use the dovecot-antispam package? It's not a package. It's another plugin. ;) Fighting spam is properly done with your MTA, Postfix in your case, and mine. It's better to reject spam during the delivery attempt than to eat it and then analyze it and delete it with a content filter such as SpamAssassin. So, no, I don't use Dovecot anti-spam to train a content filter. I don't use a content filter. I use this for killing spam and whitelisting: header_checks = pcre:/etc/postfix/header_checks, regexp:/etc/postfix/phish419.regexp, tcp:[127.0.0.1]:2526 I'll look into THAT later... sieve first! I don't think I have a /etc/postfix/phish419.regexp... -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 2:59 PM: the reason I GOT a static IP was just for a mail server.. That's why I got the dyndns domain, to play with it, get it working, THEN move my real domain.. never got that far because of the lack of 2 DNS servers.. so what you are saying is, I could do it with a DNS hosting service like TZO. So I would trade my domain hosting fee for a DNS hosting fee, and have all my emails come DIRECTLY to my local server ( do not pass go:).. Correct. I've been doing it for over 5 years now. As long as your IP reputation is clean, you shouldn't have any issues sending outbound mail from your Postfix box. Let's see: http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a208.65.91.107 Clean as a whistle. You won't get blocked due to dnsbls (RBLs). on TZO all I see is services with a dynamic IP, or maybe I am missing it.. I do have a static IP, I DO I do I do :) What happens if/when a customer's router (and thus dyndns daemon) blows chunks, or the PC they have running the auto update client does the same? Or what to do about customers who don't have an auto updatig mechanism? There's needs to be a mechanism to allow manually updating the IP address via their control panel. And, tada: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/tzo.jpg Simple as that. Thus, the service, although geared toward dynamic IP use, also works perfectly well for static IP use. You set it once, and forget it. Interestingly, I had to renew my 12 month service just last month. I went looking around for cheaper DNS hosting. I thought I'd be able to find DNS only hosting for a similar or cheaper rate. I couldn't find any. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I couldn't find it. The closest thing I found was VPS for $9.95 a month which included DNS hosting, but I didn't want or need a VPS. So, for that reason, and that fact that when I move I may end up with a dynamic IP, I stuck with TZO. I'm a smoker, at a pack a day. I spend, currently, $3.76 per day on smokes. TZO DNS hosting is $5 per _month_. Makes it really easy to justify when put in these terms. :) Paul, if you do this, and create an MX record to get the mail flowing to your Postfix server, you need to make damn sure you've got Postfix setup correctly to receive inbound mail for pcartwright.com. *AND* you need to login to your current domain registrar and change your dns servers over to TZO. Every domain registered has DNS servers assigned to that domain. For instance: Registrar: DOTSTER Domain Name: HARDWAREFREAK.COM Domain servers in listed order: NS.TZO.COM NS2.TZO.COM NS4.TZO.COM NS3.TZO.COM NS5.TZO.COM Domain Name: PCARTWRIGHT.COM Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. Name Server: NS1.PIPEDNS.COM Name Server: NS2.PIPEDNS.COM Name Server: NS3.PIPEDNS.COM Info on transferring name servers: http://www.tzo.com/MainPageDomains/TransferringDomains.html Set your Postfix hostname to match the FQDN of the Linux host, and enter that FQDN hostname into the TZO control panel Manage MX SPF records. The hostname should be something like mail.pcartwright.com. You will also need to change in /etc/postfix/main.cf myhostname = mail.pcartwright.com myorigin = pcartwright.com mydestination = pcartwright.com I've not spoon fed you everything. There's quite a bit to setup in the TZO control panel, such as your domain name, etc. You'll figure it out. Ping me on or off list if you need help. As always, *read before doing*. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd87118.7040...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 3:09 PM: On 11/08/2010 03:18 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: The only thing required is a TZO enabled router, or software running on a Linux or Windows server. This is what sends your dynamic IP address to the DNS servers when your ISP changes it. It works very well. I've been a customer since 2005 and not had a single issue, either when I had dynamic IP service or static IP service. Setup is very easy, if you have basic knowledge of DNS. If you don't, Google and this list are your friends. :) is this what you are talking about: https://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/custom/ I mean, for $29 a year... that would work! That may work. I'll be of no help if you go with dyndns as I've never used it. It's half the price. I wonder if this is a get what you pay for type situation. I'd email or call them before ordering the service to make sure it will do exactly what you want. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd87604.7010...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 04:52 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Correct. I've been doing it for over 5 years now. As long as your IP reputation is clean, you shouldn't have any issues sending outbound mail from your Postfix box. Let's see: http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a208.65.91.107 Clean as a whistle. You won't get blocked due to dnsbls (RBLs). nice site.. I've seen some of my off-list replies to SOME people get eaten by one of those sites... sorbs-xxx sounds familiar.. and that was from my HOSTING service.. bad news! What happens if/when a customer's router (and thus dyndns daemon) blows chunks, or the PC they have running the auto update client does the same? Or what to do about customers who don't have an auto updatig mechanism? There's needs to be a mechanism to allow manually updating the IP address via their control panel. And, tada: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/tzo.jpg Simple as that. Thus, the service, although geared toward dynamic IP use, also works perfectly well for static IP use. You set it once, and forget it. well, I'm not sure I see the difference between tzo dyndns, as far as services are concerned.. I'd have to look up reviews, comments..tzo would be twice as expensive as dyndns, and we are only talking dns hosting, but I'll look at both. Interestingly, I had to renew my 12 month service just last month. I went looking around for cheaper DNS hosting. I thought I'd be able to find DNS only hosting for a similar or cheaper rate. I couldn't find any. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I couldn't find it. The closest thing I found was VPS for $9.95 a month which included DNS hosting, but I didn't want or need a VPS. So, for that reason, and that fact that when I move I may end up with a dynamic IP, I stuck with TZO. I'm a smoker, at a pack a day. I spend, currently, $3.76 per day on smokes. TZO DNS hosting is $5 per _month_. Makes it really easy to justify when put in these terms. :) cough, cough, ever considered quitting smoking??G Paul, if you do this, and create an MX record to get the mail flowing to your Postfix server, you need to make damn sure you've got Postfix setup correctly to receive inbound mail for pcartwright.com. *AND* you need to login to your current domain registrar and change your dns servers over to TZO. Every domain registered has DNS servers assigned to that domain. For instance: Info on transferring name servers:http://www.tzo.com/MainPageDomains/TransferringDomains.html yeah, I've done that before.. I know how to log into my registrar.. I just transferred my domain 2 years ago. I had a problem with my ISP, ATT not wanting to send emails to my domain, and vice-versa.. so I dropped ATT as my ISP and moved my domain to justhost. I really wanted to host my own email, but I missed the dns server issue.. I've not spoon fed you everything. There's quite a bit to setup in the TZO control panel, such as your domain name, etc. You'll figure it out. Ping me on or off list if you need help. As always, *read before doing*. :) I WILL do that! seems like my domain has a problem emailing you off-list.. as I recall.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Re: Dovecot- WAS Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 3:16 PM: /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.la /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.so Well? Did you find the two files above already on your system? They should be there. They're installed with dovecot-common or dovecot-imapd. Type: /# locate sieve_plugin I'll look into THAT later... sieve first! I don't think I have a /etc/postfix/phish419.regexp... No, you wouldn't. ;) I run a lot of custom Postfix A/S filters. That one doesn't stop many overall, but it does stop pesky phish and 419 spam. Every little bit of spam killed adds up to alot. :) Since you're going to be hosting your own MX mail host now, you should subscribe to the dovecot and postfix mailing lists. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd877e4.3080...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 05:13 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: https://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/custom/ I mean, for $29 a year... that would work! That may work. I'll be of no help if you go with dyndns as I've never used it. It's half the price. I wonder if this is a get what you pay for type situation. I'd email or call them before ordering the service to make sure it will do exactly what you want. it sounds exactly like TZO's services, but they seem to specialize in dns hosting.. I will look at both.. thanks! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8790e.7090...@pcartwright.com
Re: Dovecot- WAS Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 05:21 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 3:16 PM: /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.la /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.so Well? Did you find the two files above already on your system? They should be there. They're installed with dovecot-common or dovecot-imapd. Type: /# locate sieve_plugin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1016 Oct 13 03:40 /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.la/usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.la /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda/lib90_sieve_plugin.so yes, found them both! I'll look into THAT later... sieve first! I don't think I have a /etc/postfix/phish419.regexp... No, you wouldn't. ;) I run a lot of custom Postfix A/S filters. That one doesn't stop many overall, but it does stop pesky phish and 419 spam. Every little bit of spam killed adds up to alot. :) Since you're going to be hosting your own MX mail host now, you should subscribe to the dovecot and postfix mailing lists. already subscribed to dovecot.. didn't think about postfix.. thanks! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd87acd.30...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/8/2010 4:16 PM: I WILL do that! seems like my domain has a problem emailing you off-list.. as I recall.. It shouldn't now. :) I just whitelisted pcartwright.com. Your outbound server (pcartwright.com, cl104.justhost.com) is part of SingleHop's 69.175.0.0/17, which I have blocked here. That would explain your previous issues sending to me directly. SingleHop hosts a ton of snowshoe spammers, and I got tired of playing whack-a-mole. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd87bfe.4080...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright wrote: is this what you are talking about: https://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/custom/ I mean, for $29 a year... that would work! I don't (yet) have any personal experience with these vendors. But by coincidence I have been shopping around for DNS hosting for a commercial client and these are on the short list of DNS hosting providers that I located after a brief search this week. You might look at them and compare costs. The first two look to be the price performance leaders. http://www.zoneedit.com/ http://dnspark.com/ http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ https://web.easydns.com/ I have been seriously considering using dnspark.com for a client. It appears professionally operated. As far as I can tell at this time that would be $9/year for basic DNS hosting. But I haven't actually spent the money yet so I don't have any actual experience to report. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 06:34 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: I don't (yet) have any personal experience with these vendors. But by coincidence I have been shopping around for DNS hosting for a commercial client and these are on the short list of DNS hosting providers that I located after a brief search this week. You might look at them and compare costs. The first two look to be the price performance leaders. you didn't look at or know about either TZO or dyndns? just curious -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8a7b3.5020...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/08/2010 06:34 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: I don't (yet) have any personal experience with these vendors. But by coincidence I have been shopping around for DNS hosting for a commercial client and these are on the short list of DNS hosting providers that I located after a brief search this week. You might look at them and compare costs. The first two look to be the price performance leaders. http://www.zoneedit.com/ I didn't like zoneedits web pag(s) AT ALL.. no back button, no menus from some pages.. ugly.. http://dnspark.com/ I liked that. looked professional.. CHEAP.. gets my vote! http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/ $29 a year for TEN domains.. I only have ONE.. not bad for a business. https://web.easydns.com/ $35 dns hosting. lots of options services.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd8a9c8.5010...@pcartwright.com
Movemail not getting emails
I am using thunderbird Lenny. I have a Movemail account setup for my local user. It is set to get emails every X minutes. Doesn't do anything. I have to right-click the account folder, and select Get-messages. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd6819e.3080...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 05:38:22 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: I am using thunderbird Lenny. I have a Movemail account setup for my local user. It is set to get emails every X minutes. Doesn't do anything. I have to right-click the account folder, and select Get-messages. Mmm... check this bug: *** Unix Mailspool never retrieves new mail by time delay or during startup https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480945 *** There is a workaround in comment #13 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.07.13.39...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/07/2010 08:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: *** Unix Mailspool never retrieves new mail by time delay or during startup https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480945 *** There is a workaround in comment #13 no joy.. I added that entry, restarted thunderbird, still not getting emails from local host. ALSO, when I DO get emails, the filters don't run, some DO, some DON'T.. say I issues the get messages command, and get 27 emails. the ibox will go down to say 6 unread. When I go to tools- run message filters, the rest go to the filtered folders.. I was starting to add duplicate filters for the same content ( xxx-debian-1, xxx-debian-2...) until I realized it just wasn't running them. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd6b9d2.4050...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:38:10 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/07/2010 08:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: *** Unix Mailspool never retrieves new mail by time delay or during startup https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480945 *** There is a workaround in comment #13 no joy.. I added that entry, restarted thunderbird, still not getting emails from local host. Write here what did you exactly add/change maybe something was meesed up. ALSO, when I DO get emails, the filters don't run, some DO, some DON'T.. say I issues the get messages command, and get 27 emails. the ibox will go down to say 6 unread. When I go to tools- run message filters, the rest go to the filtered folders.. I was starting to add duplicate filters for the same content ( xxx-debian-1, xxx-debian-2...) until I realized it just wasn't running them. Try by enabling the filter's log to see what is going on. Just out of curiosity... why are you using a movemail account? As you are running Dovecot, wouldn't be better to select standard imap? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.07.14.53...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/07/2010 09:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: Just out of curiosity... why are you using a movemail account? As you are running Dovecot, wouldn't be better to select standard imap? :-? are they mutually exclusive? I do have an IMAP local user account AND a movemail account... I was trying to migrate TO IMAP from pop/local user /var/mail.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd6d15c.6050...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:18:36 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/07/2010 09:53 AM, Camaleón wrote: Just out of curiosity... why are you using a movemail account? As you are running Dovecot, wouldn't be better to select standard imap? :-? are they mutually exclusive? No that I know... I was just asking the why of your setup :-) I can see the use of Movemail accounts when no imap/pop3 server is running locally (i.e., using fetchmail to drop remote e-mails under your local mailbox) but having your own server, I see no good reason to keep that setup, unless you explicitely need it for some special feature, so I asked. I do have an IMAP local user account AND a movemail account... I was trying to migrate TO IMAP from pop/local user /var/mail.. Yep, that was what I thought by reading your last e-mails ;-) Question is... are you going to keep the old method for storing e-mails? If yes, you'll need to put the auto-checking feature working. If not, just let it be... anyway, it should be fixed in upcoming Thunderbird releases. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.07.16.33...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/07/2010 11:33 AM, Camaleón wrote: are they mutually exclusive? No that I know... I was just asking the why of your setup :-) my setup is confused... migrated from too many different accounts/account types.. I can see the use of Movemail accounts when no imap/pop3 server is running locally (i.e., using fetchmail to drop remote e-mails under your local mailbox) but having your own server, I see no good reason to keep that setup, unless you explicitely need it for some special feature, so I asked. I'm trying to simplify things... IMAP seems like THE ANSWER:) I do have an IMAP local user account AND a movemail account... I was trying to migrate TO IMAP from pop/local user /var/mail.. Yep, that was what I thought by reading your last e-mails ;-) Question is... are you going to keep the old method for storing e-mails? If yes, you'll need to put the auto-checking feature working. If not, just let it be... anyway, it should be fixed in upcoming Thunderbird releases. yes, I noticed that in that web site you mentioned before.. What i want to do is use my local IMAP account to bring in all my emails, and have all my filtered folders in that IMAP account. That way I can use a laptop to connect to my IMAP account, get all my emails via IMAP and have access to them on the laptop. This method I figured out while I was sitting home in a special boot for my foot, and the laptop was easier to use than hobbling to another room getting to my desktop.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd6e0ae.10...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:23:58 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/07/2010 11:33 AM, Camaleón wrote: Question is... are you going to keep the old method for storing e-mails? If yes, you'll need to put the auto-checking feature working. If not, just let it be... anyway, it should be fixed in upcoming Thunderbird releases. yes, I noticed that in that web site you mentioned before.. What i want to do is use my local IMAP account to bring in all my emails, and have all my filtered folders in that IMAP account. That way I can use a laptop to connect to my IMAP account, get all my emails via IMAP and have access to them on the laptop. This method I figured out while I was sitting home in a special boot for my foot, and the laptop was easier to use than hobbling to another room getting to my desktop.. So, do you still need that movemail account? Maybe if you clarify your current accounts/setup status we can get the full picture better :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.07.19.00...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/07/2010 02:00 PM, Camaleón wrote: So, do you still need that movemail account? Maybe if you clarify your current accounts/setup status we can get the full picture better :-) well, when I removed it, I stopped getting my local user email, and /var/mail/local_user started growing, so I had no way to read it, except enable the Movemail account ( FOR NOW..). I have dovecot postfix set to enable Maildir IMAP, but it doesn't seem to be working.. dovecot log shows: 2010-11-07 12:15:45 IMAP(pbc): Info: Disconnected in IDLE bytes=181/6886 2010-11-07 12:16:08 dovecot: Info: Dovecot v1.2.15 starting up (core dumps disabled) 2010-11-07 12:16:25 imap-login: Info: Login: user=pbc, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured 2010-11-07 12:16:35 imap-login: Info: Login: user=pbc, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured so dovecot is working, but postfix keeps sending emails to /var/mail/USER . # grep Maildir /etc/postfix/main.cf home_mailbox = Maildir/ -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd7118f.7070...@pcartwright.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Du, 07 nov 10, 15:52:31, Paul Cartwright wrote: so dovecot is working, but postfix keeps sending emails to /var/mail/USER . # grep Maildir /etc/postfix/main.cf home_mailbox = Maildir/ Please post the output of 'postconf -n' Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:52:31 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 11/07/2010 02:00 PM, Camaleón wrote: So, do you still need that movemail account? Maybe if you clarify your current accounts/setup status we can get the full picture better :-) well, when I removed it, I stopped getting my local user email, and /var/mail/local_user started growing, so I had no way to read it, except enable the Movemail account ( FOR NOW..). (...) Okay, but let's move this issue to its own thread to avoid mixing things :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.07.21.10...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On 11/07/2010 04:09 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
# grep Maildir /etc/postfix/main.cf
home_mailbox = Maildir/
Please post the output of 'postconf -n'
# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = no
biff = yes
config_directory = /etc/postfix
home_mailbox = Maildir/
inet_interfaces = all
inet_protocols = ipv4
mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION
mailbox_size_limit = 0
message_size_limit = 3000
mydestination = paulandcilla.homelinux.org, localhost
mydomain = paulandcilla.homelinux.org
myhostname = paulandcilla.homelinux.org
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.10/24
myorigin = /etc/mailname
proxy_interfaces = 208.65.91.107
readme_directory = no
recipient_delimiter =
relayhost =
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtp_scache
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain = paulandcilla.homelinux.org
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${data_directory}/smtpd_scache
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Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/7/2010 11:23 AM: yes, I noticed that in that web site you mentioned before.. What i want to do is use my local IMAP account to bring in all my emails, and have all my filtered folders in that IMAP account. That way I can use a laptop to connect to my IMAP account, get all my emails via IMAP and have access to them on the laptop. This method I figured out while I was sitting home in a special boot for my foot, and the laptop was easier to use than hobbling to another room getting to my desktop.. Hay Paul, do you not realize you can do all of what you want with Gmail? It would be much much easier than your current convoluted attempts at a consolidated email system. You'd simply 1. Create a Gmail account (if you don't already have one) 2. Configure it to allow IMAP access 3. Configure your TBird etc clients to access it via IMAP 4. Configure it to POP all of your other email accounts at Yahoo etc 5. Create mail filters to sort the mail into the IMAP folders It's literally that simple. You should be able to have it up and running in under 10 minutes. Then you can ditch Postfix, Dovecot, Movemail, etc from your Linux workstation. AND you have the added benefit of accessing the account via any PC, via the web anywhere and everywhere, and via your iPhone/smart phone if you have one. You also get redundancy and data protection, which you don't currently have. You aren't running multi-disk RAID on your Debian Dovecot box, so if the single disk fails, there goes all your mail. Given your requirements, Gmail is a perfect fit for you. Is there a particular reason you're not already doing this with Gmail? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd79f97.2060...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:59:35 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: # postconf -n (...) home_mailbox = Maildir/ (...) mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION mailbox_command has preference over home_mailbox :-) So you are sending your e-mails to Procmail instead Dovecot. Try by removing that variable (mailbox_command =) or you'll have to tell Procmail where to store e-mails. Remember to reload Postfix (/etc/init.d/postfix reload) after any change in main.cf. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.11.08.07.31...@gmail.com
Re: Movemail not getting emails
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/7/2010 5:59 PM: mydestination = paulandcilla.homelinux.org, localhost mydomain = paulandcilla.homelinux.org myhostname = paulandcilla.homelinux.org $ host paulandcilla.homelinux.org paulandcilla.homelinux.org A 192.168.10.2 Umm, wtf? You've got a public DNS A record pointing to an RFC 1918 private non-routable IP address. proxy_interfaces = 208.65.91.107 $ host 208.65.91.107 Name: mail.pcartwright.com Address: 208.65.91.107 $ telnet mail.pcartwright.com 25 Trying 69.175.91.154... Connected to pcartwright.com. Again, wtf? ^^ $ dig MX pcartwright.com ;; ANSWER SECTION: pcartwright.com.14400 IN MX 0 pcartwright.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: pcartwright.com.14400 IN A 69.175.91.154 So, paulandcilla.homelinux.org is a bogus local hostname for your Debian workstation. It appears you actually have a real domain, pcartwright.com, hosted by JustHost on the SingleHop network (unfortunately a known spammer haven) in its Chicago datacenter. You obviously send receive email from/to pcartwright.com addresses through your hosting service at JustHost. Your emails here have an address of deb...@pcartwright.com. If I were you, I'd seriously look at moving _ALL_ of your email hosting to Google Apps, instead of a regular Gmail account as I mentioned earlier, since you have your own domain MX already. Have JustHost move your domain MX record to point to the Google Apps farm (instructions at Google Apps). Wrap all of it up in one neat little place, accessible from any device you choose, from anywhere, with all your email in one IMAP mailbox It looks like the pricing for Google Apps is $50 per account per year. That's gotta be less the what you're paying for the pain pills you've been popping due to the headaches over this mail configuration issue. :) What are you waiting for? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cd7aab4.1080...@hardwarefreak.com
