Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-04 Thread Daniel Borgmann
hello!
i just downloaded M18 from this place and unpacked the archive to
/usr/local/mozilla/
but i have problems to start it.
when i try to run mozilla as root it says:
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ranger:/usr/lib# /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla
/usr/local/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla
 LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla:/usr/local/mozilla/components
   SHLIB_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla
  LIBPATH=/usr/local/mozilla
   ADDON_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla
  MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
  MOZ_TOOLKIT=
moz_debug=0
 moz_debugger=
Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
 
Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0  
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what does that mean?? and yes, i did start it in X.
when i do the same as a regular user, i get no error message at all.
it just hangs after moz_debugger=
is there any .deb for m18?

 In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly
 from

 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/

 where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux
 binaries which I found out to run pretty stable on most of the Linux
 distributions I've checked so far. But, honestly, be aware that M18 will
 not run pretty fast on Your machine (as a matter of fact, it's slow on my
 PII-350 on potato), so if You want to do faster browsing You should
 consider using some more light-weighted browsers like skipstone
 (www.muhri.net/skipstone) or galeon (galeon.sourceforge.net) which are
 both based on the TML-rendering system of Mozilla ('gecko') and need to
 have M18 installed on Your system, but they're much faster when it comes to
 web browsing. :)))

 HTH, have a nice day. :)

 Regards,
 Kristian
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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-04 Thread Leen Besselink
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Daniel Borgmann wrote:

 when i try to run mozilla as root it says:

 Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0  
 -
 what does that mean?? and yes, i did start it in X.
 when i do the same as a regular user, i get no error message at all.

Sounds like you logged in as a regular user, opened up a terminal program
like xterm, Eterm, Konsole, etc., and su'd (with the 'su' command or
similair) to root and tryed to start mozilla as root. This does not work
in Unix en thus Linux. In Unix de user that 'owns' the 'X' process that is
running is the Only user that can modify the X-screen, not even root can
do that.

This is a (security) feature not a bug. :)



Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-04 Thread sena
I heard that Leen Besselink wrote this on 04/11/00:

 Sounds like you logged in as a regular user, opened up a terminal program
 like xterm, Eterm, Konsole, etc., and su'd (with the 'su' command or
 similair) to root and tryed to start mozilla as root. This does not work
 in Unix en thus Linux. In Unix de user that 'owns' the 'X' process that is
 running is the Only user that can modify the X-screen, not even root can
 do that.   ^   
 
 
Not exactly true. The great power behind X is that you can run clients from
other machines and see them on your display.

Actually, as root, he's being denied access. But if he adds his own host to
the access control list (with the xhost command - xhost +hostname.dom), he
is now allowed in.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su -
Password:
decoy:~# export DISPLAY=localhost:0
decoy:~# xclock
Xlib: connection to localhost:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
Error: Can't open display: localhost:0
decoy:~# logout
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xhost +localhost
localhost being added to access control list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su -
Password:
decoy:~# export DISPLAY=localhost:0
decoy:~# xclock
[xclock runs]
decoy:~# 

And there it is...

For more info, man xhost(1).

Regards, sena...

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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-03 Thread Pap Tibor
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, J. Bruce Fields wrote:

 On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Pap Tibor wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote:
   In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly 
   from 
   
   http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ 
   
   where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux 
   binaries
  
  On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or
  I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple
  old pentium.
 
 I've run those i686 binaries on a P150 and they work.  They're much too
 slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs)

Yes! At last I downloaded that binary, and tried it on my 100 MHz Pentium
box. It's not a speed recorder, but quite usable. I'm satisfied with its
performance. I have 64 megs memory in my computer.

Another question:

I would like to use java support with mozilla. I've got the sun java
plugin 1.2.2 on a CD. Can I install this into mozilla? I don't want to
download another plugin if it's not necessary. (My internet connection
through modem is quite expensive and slow.)

Thanks,
--Tibor Pap

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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-03 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,

Pap Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another question:
 
 I would like to use java support with mozilla. I've got the sun java
 plugin 1.2.2 on a CD. Can I install this into mozilla? I don't want to
 download another plugin if it's not necessary. (My internet connection
 through modem is quite expensive and slow.)

If you have the java 1.2 installed, you can simply link the
javaplugin.so to your mozilla's plugins directory. I use the following
script for automate the process of updating the nightly and setting up
the plugins as well.

#!/bin/sh
#This scripts automates the mozilla installation process
#Written by Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mozilla=mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
dir=`date --date=yesterday '+%Y-%m-%d'`-21-Mtrunk
url=ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/$dir/$mozilla

javaplugin=/usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/javaplugin.so
mozplugin=$HOME/package/plugins/javaplugin.so

cd $HOME; rm -f $mozilla; wget $url;

if [ -f $HOME/$mozilla ]; then
rm -rf $HOME/package;
tar zxvf $mozilla;
ln -s $javaplugin $mozplugin;
exit 0;
fi

exit 1;

Regards,

Shao.

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Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Pap Tibor
Hi!

I would like to run Mozilla M18 on my Pentium 100 MHz potato box. I've
just downloaded the M18 binary build from mozilla.org, but I realized it
was compiled for Pentium II processors.

I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18
package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato?

--Tibor Pap

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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Kristian Rink
 Hi!
 
Hi, Tibor...

 I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18
 package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato?

In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from 

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ 

where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries 
which I found out to run pretty stable on most of the Linux distributions I've 
checked so far. But, honestly, be aware that M18 will not run pretty fast on 
Your machine (as a matter of fact, it's slow on my PII-350 on potato), so if 
You want to do faster browsing You should consider using some more 
light-weighted browsers like skipstone (www.muhri.net/skipstone) or galeon 
(galeon.sourceforge.net) which are both based on the HTML-rendering system of 
Mozilla ('gecko') and need to have M18 installed on Your system, but they're 
much faster when it comes to web browsing. :)))

HTH, have a nice day. :)

Regards,
Kristian
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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Pap Tibor
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote:

  Hi!
  
 Hi, Tibor...
 
  I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18
  package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato?
 
 In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from 
 
 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ 
 
 where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries

On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or
I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple
old pentium.

I will try gecko too, but I need ssl and java support.

Thanks,
--Tibor Pap

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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Damien
 On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or
 I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple
 old pentium.

as far as i know, it's merely aligned for that architecture - meaning it runs
fastest on a ppro/II++ etc - but it can be run on something below. debian
still compiles everything on m486 iirc.

cheers

 damien


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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Colin Watson
Pap Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to run Mozilla M18 on my Pentium 100 MHz potato box. I've
just downloaded the M18 binary build from mozilla.org, but I realized it
was compiled for Pentium II processors.

I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18
package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato?

As far as I know, you can just grab the mozilla and libnspr4 packages
from woody and install them on a potato box. One or two other libraries
might be required as well.

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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Colin Watson
Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
as far as i know, it's merely aligned for that architecture - meaning it runs
fastest on a ppro/II++ etc - but it can be run on something below. debian
still compiles everything on m486 iirc.

i386, I think. You can use the pentium-builder package to help build
Debian packages for newer processors (and for subarchitectures of
non-i386 architectures as well, I believe - it's slightly misnamed).

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Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Pap Tibor wrote:

 On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote:
  In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly 
  from 
  
  http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ 
  
  where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries
 
 On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or
 I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple
 old pentium.

I've run those i686 binaries on a P150 and they work.  They're much too
slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs)
and not the processor--Mozilla seemed to be spending a lot of time
swapping the one time I tried it.  On my other machine, a 300mmx with 64
megs, I find M18 is actually usable.---Bruce F.



Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)

2000-11-02 Thread Hubert Chan
J. Bruce Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've run those i686 binaries on a P150 and they work.  They're much too
 slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs)
 and not the processor--Mozilla seemed to be spending a lot of time
 swapping the one time I tried it.  On my other machine, a 300mmx with 64
 megs, I find M18 is actually usable.---Bruce F.

I'd recommend using the nightly builds.  They seem to be quite a bit faster
than the milestone releases.  I've got 32 megs on my machine, too, and it seems
to be swapping a lot less now than previous releases.  It's still a bit slower
than, say Netscape 4.7, but I've found it to be fairly usable.

Hubert