Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
hello! i just downloaded M18 from this place and unpacked the archive to /usr/local/mozilla/ but i have problems to start it. when i try to run mozilla as root it says: - ranger:/usr/lib# /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla /usr/local/mozilla/run-mozilla.sh /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/mozilla LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla:/usr/local/mozilla/components SHLIB_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla LIBPATH=/usr/local/mozilla ADDON_PATH=/usr/local/mozilla MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=0 moz_debugger= Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 - what does that mean?? and yes, i did start it in X. when i do the same as a regular user, i get no error message at all. it just hangs after moz_debugger= is there any .deb for m18? In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries which I found out to run pretty stable on most of the Linux distributions I've checked so far. But, honestly, be aware that M18 will not run pretty fast on Your machine (as a matter of fact, it's slow on my PII-350 on potato), so if You want to do faster browsing You should consider using some more light-weighted browsers like skipstone (www.muhri.net/skipstone) or galeon (galeon.sourceforge.net) which are both based on the TML-rendering system of Mozilla ('gecko') and need to have M18 installed on Your system, but they're much faster when it comes to web browsing. :))) HTH, have a nice day. :) Regards, Kristian ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Daniel Borgmann wrote: when i try to run mozilla as root it says: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 - what does that mean?? and yes, i did start it in X. when i do the same as a regular user, i get no error message at all. Sounds like you logged in as a regular user, opened up a terminal program like xterm, Eterm, Konsole, etc., and su'd (with the 'su' command or similair) to root and tryed to start mozilla as root. This does not work in Unix en thus Linux. In Unix de user that 'owns' the 'X' process that is running is the Only user that can modify the X-screen, not even root can do that. This is a (security) feature not a bug. :)
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
I heard that Leen Besselink wrote this on 04/11/00: Sounds like you logged in as a regular user, opened up a terminal program like xterm, Eterm, Konsole, etc., and su'd (with the 'su' command or similair) to root and tryed to start mozilla as root. This does not work in Unix en thus Linux. In Unix de user that 'owns' the 'X' process that is running is the Only user that can modify the X-screen, not even root can do that. ^ Not exactly true. The great power behind X is that you can run clients from other machines and see them on your display. Actually, as root, he's being denied access. But if he adds his own host to the access control list (with the xhost command - xhost +hostname.dom), he is now allowed in. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su - Password: decoy:~# export DISPLAY=localhost:0 decoy:~# xclock Xlib: connection to localhost:0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server Error: Can't open display: localhost:0 decoy:~# logout -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xhost +localhost localhost being added to access control list [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su - Password: decoy:~# export DISPLAY=localhost:0 decoy:~# xclock [xclock runs] decoy:~# And there it is... For more info, man xhost(1). Regards, sena... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://decoy.ath.cx/~sena/
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, J. Bruce Fields wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Pap Tibor wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote: In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple old pentium. I've run those i686 binaries on a P150 and they work. They're much too slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs) Yes! At last I downloaded that binary, and tried it on my 100 MHz Pentium box. It's not a speed recorder, but quite usable. I'm satisfied with its performance. I have 64 megs memory in my computer. Another question: I would like to use java support with mozilla. I've got the sun java plugin 1.2.2 on a CD. Can I install this into mozilla? I don't want to download another plugin if it's not necessary. (My internet connection through modem is quite expensive and slow.) Thanks, --Tibor Pap -.Sig e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
Hi, Pap Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question: I would like to use java support with mozilla. I've got the sun java plugin 1.2.2 on a CD. Can I install this into mozilla? I don't want to download another plugin if it's not necessary. (My internet connection through modem is quite expensive and slow.) If you have the java 1.2 installed, you can simply link the javaplugin.so to your mozilla's plugins directory. I use the following script for automate the process of updating the nightly and setting up the plugins as well. #!/bin/sh #This scripts automates the mozilla installation process #Written by Shao Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] mozilla=mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz dir=`date --date=yesterday '+%Y-%m-%d'`-21-Mtrunk url=ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/$dir/$mozilla javaplugin=/usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/javaplugin.so mozplugin=$HOME/package/plugins/javaplugin.so cd $HOME; rm -f $mozilla; wget $url; if [ -f $HOME/$mozilla ]; then rm -rf $HOME/package; tar zxvf $mozilla; ln -s $javaplugin $mozplugin; exit 0; fi exit 1; Regards, Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
Hi! I would like to run Mozilla M18 on my Pentium 100 MHz potato box. I've just downloaded the M18 binary build from mozilla.org, but I realized it was compiled for Pentium II processors. I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18 package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato? --Tibor Pap -.Sig Tibor Pap [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
Hi! Hi, Tibor... I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18 package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato? In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries which I found out to run pretty stable on most of the Linux distributions I've checked so far. But, honestly, be aware that M18 will not run pretty fast on Your machine (as a matter of fact, it's slow on my PII-350 on potato), so if You want to do faster browsing You should consider using some more light-weighted browsers like skipstone (www.muhri.net/skipstone) or galeon (galeon.sourceforge.net) which are both based on the HTML-rendering system of Mozilla ('gecko') and need to have M18 installed on Your system, but they're much faster when it comes to web browsing. :))) HTH, have a nice day. :) Regards, Kristian ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote: Hi! Hi, Tibor... I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18 package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato? In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple old pentium. I will try gecko too, but I need ssl and java support. Thanks, --Tibor Pap -.Sig Tibor Pap [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple old pentium. as far as i know, it's merely aligned for that architecture - meaning it runs fastest on a ppro/II++ etc - but it can be run on something below. debian still compiles everything on m486 iirc. cheers damien pgp2y3n3QbCQo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
Pap Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to run Mozilla M18 on my Pentium 100 MHz potato box. I've just downloaded the M18 binary build from mozilla.org, but I realized it was compiled for Pentium II processors. I don't want to upgrade my box to woody yet. Is there a Mozilla M18 package either .deb or tgz which can run on Pentium and potato? As far as I know, you can just grab the mozilla and libnspr4 packages from woody and install them on a potato box. One or two other libraries might be required as well. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as far as i know, it's merely aligned for that architecture - meaning it runs fastest on a ppro/II++ etc - but it can be run on something below. debian still compiles everything on m486 iirc. i386, I think. You can use the pentium-builder package to help build Debian packages for newer processors (and for subarchitectures of non-i386 architectures as well, I believe - it's slightly misnamed). -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Pap Tibor wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote: In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly from http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux binaries On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple old pentium. I've run those i686 binaries on a P150 and they work. They're much too slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs) and not the processor--Mozilla seemed to be spending a lot of time swapping the one time I tried it. On my other machine, a 300mmx with 64 megs, I find M18 is actually usable.---Bruce F.
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
J. Bruce Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've run those i686 binaries on a P150 and they work. They're much too slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs) and not the processor--Mozilla seemed to be spending a lot of time swapping the one time I tried it. On my other machine, a 300mmx with 64 megs, I find M18 is actually usable.---Bruce F. I'd recommend using the nightly builds. They seem to be quite a bit faster than the milestone releases. I've got 32 megs on my machine, too, and it seems to be swapping a lot less now than previous releases. It's still a bit slower than, say Netscape 4.7, but I've found it to be fairly usable. Hubert