Re: New installation (again!)
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:14:22AM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote: Greetings all ye Debians! I gave it another go; installed Debian 2.2 'potato', this time only a minimal installation although with GNOME, which turned out to be a flop of course: Errors were encountered while processing: gmc gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-utils gnotepad+ gs gv latex2html1 libgtkxmhtml1 libwraster1 When I was asked if the program should give it another try to install these packages I said yes, but I'm not sure if it went through, I never got any other messages about that. GNOME turned out to be one small terminal (without a frame) in the upper left corner of the screen, on a neutral- grey background, nothing else. Sounds like X fail-safe mode. No window-manager, no ~/.xsession, it'll give you an Xterm. You can start a window-manager from that Xterm. For GNOME you'll want one of window-maker, icewm-gnome or sawmill aka sawfish. GNOME seems to work best [or at least is easiest] if you install GDM (the GNOME Display Manager). It's not strictly necessary though. You can find out if those packages are properly installed by doing 'dpkg -l [package, ...]'. If it's installed properly, the first two characters of the line spit out for each package will be 'i' and there won't be a third character before the name of the package. Just try '$ apt-get install gmc' for instance. Need help with apt? Check the man page, then ask if you're still confused. - The lp module would not install: Installation failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : init_module : Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parametres, including invalid IO or IRQ parametres /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod lp failed My printer is a parallel port (lp0) Epson Stylus Color 640. I tryed several times, with and without parametres. What were the io and irq settings you gave? I know I set up some things in the BIOS for my parallel port (especially the communication style). For me, this works: $ insmod parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 dma=5 $ modprobe lp You need that low-level parport_pc.o module if you have typical x86 type architechture. The parameters may vary a little, check your MB docs and/or BIOS. When you get the parport_pc parameter correct, put them on a line in /etc/modutils/aliases like: options parport_pc io=0x... irq=. dma=. Then run '$ update-modules'. Now '$ modprobe lp' should work. -- wvdial didn't find the modem (I'm used to wvdial 'always' finding the modem on first attempt!) which is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO on ttyS0. Well, try running setserial first? IMHO, pppconfig is much better overall. At least it [pon/poff] doesn't hang around in the foreground forever wasting a VT and spewing all kinds of stuff that you probably don't care about. --- Window Maker seems to be the default window manager, what happened to fvwm? I can't find it on the CDROM. Look for fvwm2. I thought the old fvwm was still around, but maybe not. You can change the system-wide default window manager with this: $ update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Just select the number corresponding to the one you want as default. This is different than other Linux distributions and earlier versions of Debian. Lots of default things are set up with this alternatives mechanism. -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
Re: New installation (again!)
Tue, 05 Sep skrev Helgi Örn: Greetings all ye Debians! I gave it another go; installed Debian 2.2 'potato', this time only a minimal installation although with GNOME, which turned out to be a flop of course: Errors were encountered while processing: gmc gnome-control-center gnome-help [snip] GNOME turned out to be one small terminal (without a frame) in the upper left corner of the screen, on a neutral- grey background, nothing else. If you really want to use GNOME, just skip gnome when you install debian, then add 'deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update and apt-get install task-gnome-desktop. I guess that's closer to what you want. But, hey I'm not sure how well this works with potato, maybe you have to use woody. - [snip lp] -- wvdial didn't find the modem (I'm used to wvdial 'always' finding the modem on first attempt!) which is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO on ttyS0. Hmm, do you try this as root or as a normal user? Maybe you have to add your self into the group which own the device. --- Window Maker seems to be the default window manager, what happened to fvwm? I can't find it on the CDROM. It should be there if this is an official Debian potato cd. At least the file ~debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/x11/fvwm_2.2.4-2.deb exist in my potato-mirror. --- I will be very grateful for all hints that can help me configuring this wild potato. -- Åsmund Ødegård Scientific Programmer, TPV, Ifi, UiO http://www.ifi.uio.no/~aasmundo/ j: 22 84 00 63 - m: 90 06 99 15 -- auto sig -- APO 18 19 Så kom de til Efesus; der lot han de andre bli tilbake, og selv gikk han inn i synagogen og gav sig i samtale med jødene.
Re: New installation (again!)
Thank you! Several useful things for me to work on. HÖ Eric G . Miller wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:14:22AM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote: Greetings all ye Debians! I gave it another go; installed Debian 2.2 'potato', this time only a minimal installation although with GNOME, which turned out to be a flop of course: Errors were encountered while processing: gmc gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-utils gnotepad+ gs gv latex2html1 libgtkxmhtml1 libwraster1 When I was asked if the program should give it another try to install these packages I said yes, but I'm not sure if it went through, I never got any other messages about that. GNOME turned out to be one small terminal (without a frame) in the upper left corner of the screen, on a neutral- grey background, nothing else. Sounds like X fail-safe mode. No window-manager, no ~/.xsession, it'll give you an Xterm. You can start a window-manager from that Xterm. For GNOME you'll want one of window-maker, icewm-gnome or sawmill aka sawfish. GNOME seems to work best [or at least is easiest] if you install GDM (the GNOME Display Manager). It's not strictly necessary though. You can find out if those packages are properly installed by doing 'dpkg -l [package, ...]'. If it's installed properly, the first two characters of the line spit out for each package will be 'i' and there won't be a third character before the name of the package. Just try '$ apt-get install gmc' for instance. Need help with apt? Check the man page, then ask if you're still confused. - The lp module would not install: Installation failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : init_module : Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parametres, including invalid IO or IRQ parametres /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod lp failed My printer is a parallel port (lp0) Epson Stylus Color 640. I tryed several times, with and without parametres. What were the io and irq settings you gave? I know I set up some things in the BIOS for my parallel port (especially the communication style). For me, this works: $ insmod parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 dma=5 $ modprobe lp You need that low-level parport_pc.o module if you have typical x86 type architechture. The parameters may vary a little, check your MB docs and/or BIOS. When you get the parport_pc parameter correct, put them on a line in /etc/modutils/aliases like: options parport_pc io=0x... irq=. dma=. Then run '$ update-modules'. Now '$ modprobe lp' should work. -- wvdial didn't find the modem (I'm used to wvdial 'always' finding the modem on first attempt!) which is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO on ttyS0. Well, try running setserial first? IMHO, pppconfig is much better overall. At least it [pon/poff] doesn't hang around in the foreground forever wasting a VT and spewing all kinds of stuff that you probably don't care about. --- Window Maker seems to be the default window manager, what happened to fvwm? I can't find it on the CDROM. Look for fvwm2. I thought the old fvwm was still around, but maybe not. You can change the system-wide default window manager with this: $ update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Just select the number corresponding to the one you want as default. This is different than other Linux distributions and earlier versions of Debian. Lots of default things are set up with this alternatives mechanism. -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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---BeginMessage--- It sure enough never asked for the 3rd CD only the 2nd, I'll give it a try. Thanks! Helgi Örn Mike McNally wrote: In my install it would say insert disk 2 or disk1, but what was really needed was on the 3rd (marked non-us) disk. So go back to install in dselect and try some differed disks. mike Helgi Örn wrote: Greetings all ye Debians! I gave it another go; installed Debian 2.2 'potato', this time only a minimal installation although with GNOME, which turned out to be a flop of course: Errors were encountered while processing: gmc gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-utils gnotepad+ gs gv latex2html1 libgtkxmhtml1 libwraster1 When I was asked if the program should give it another try to install these packages I said yes, but I'm not sure if it went through, I never got any other messages about that. GNOME turned out to be one small terminal (without a frame) in the upper left corner of the screen, on a neutral- grey background, nothing else. - The lp module would not install: Installation failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : init_module : Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parametres, including invalid IO or IRQ parametres /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod lp failed My printer is a parallel port (lp0) Epson Stylus Color 640. I tryed several times, with and without parametres. -- wvdial didn't find the modem (I'm used to wvdial 'always' finding the modem on first attempt!) which is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO on ttyS0. --- Window Maker seems to be the default window manager, what happened to fvwm? I can't find it on the CDROM. --- I will be very grateful for all hints that can help me configuring this wild potato. Sincerely, Helgi Örn -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ---End Message---
Re: New installation (again!)
Heja Norge! Thanks for your reply. Åsmund Ødegård wrote: [snip] If you really want to use GNOME, just skip gnome when you install debian, then add 'deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update and apt-get install task-gnome-desktop. I guess that's closer to what you want. But, hey I'm not sure how well this works with potato, maybe you have to use woody. Mmmm..sounds interesting, but it takes time to download via 56k cable..:-( On the other hand one might assume that GNOME on the official CDROM should work out of the box! [snip] wvdial didn't find the modem (I'm used to wvdial 'always' finding the modem on first attempt!) which is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO on ttyS0. Hmm, do you try this as root or as a normal user? Maybe you have to add your self into the group which own the device. As root. But i guess that ppp is not configured in the kernel even though the module was installed from the beginning, could it be so? Window Maker seems to be the default window manager, what happened to fvwm? I can't find it on the CDROM. It should be there if this is an official Debian potato cd. At least the file ~debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/x11/fvwm_2.2.4-2.deb exist in my potato-mirror. OK, I'll check that once again. Which window manager is the most 'Debian friendly' if I may say so? Does KDE run smoothly on Debian? [snip] Thank's again all the best! Helgi Örn
Re: New installation (again!)
Åsmund Ødegård wrote: I gave it another go; installed Debian 2.2 'potato', this time only a minimal installation although with GNOME, which turned out to be a flop of course: If you really want to use GNOME, just skip gnome when you install debian, then add 'deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update and apt-get install task-gnome-desktop. I guess that's closer to what you want. But, hey I'm not sure how well this works with potato, maybe you have to use woody. It worked like a charm for me, using potato. John
New installation (again!)
Greetings all ye Debians! I gave it another go; installed Debian 2.2 'potato', this time only a minimal installation although with GNOME, which turned out to be a flop of course: Errors were encountered while processing: gmc gnome-control-center gnome-help gnome-utils gnotepad+ gs gv latex2html1 libgtkxmhtml1 libwraster1 When I was asked if the program should give it another try to install these packages I said yes, but I'm not sure if it went through, I never got any other messages about that. GNOME turned out to be one small terminal (without a frame) in the upper left corner of the screen, on a neutral- grey background, nothing else. - The lp module would not install: Installation failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : init_module : Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parametres, including invalid IO or IRQ parametres /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod/lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/lp.o : insmod lp failed My printer is a parallel port (lp0) Epson Stylus Color 640. I tryed several times, with and without parametres. -- wvdial didn't find the modem (I'm used to wvdial 'always' finding the modem on first attempt!) which is a Diamond SupraExpress 56e PRO on ttyS0. --- Window Maker seems to be the default window manager, what happened to fvwm? I can't find it on the CDROM. --- I will be very grateful for all hints that can help me configuring this wild potato. Sincerely, Helgi Örn
