Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-31 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 07:49:24AM -0600, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote:
| On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 05:24:28PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
|  On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:04:51PM -0600, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote:
|  |   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
|  | Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
|  | Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?
|  
|  Does that card support the VESA interface?  If so, use the 'vesafb'
|  driver in the kernel and the 'FBDev' driver in X.  It's really simple
|  to configure, actually.  (I use that setup because it's a lot simpler
|  than messing around with X options)
| 
|   Hi D. I sent this directly to you since the reply I sent to Debian User
| has not shown up yet.

You sent it off-list, that's why.
BTW, your email address is wrong:
host bigriver.net.mail1.psmtp.com[12.158.34.245] said:
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| I read somewhere that the vesafb module is only
| available in the 2.4.18 source. True?

No.  It is in all 2.4.x kernels I've used.

You might be able to compile it as a module, or just use boot-time
configuration options, but I've never had any luck with that.  I
started with the kernel-source package, copied the configuration from
my current kernel, then included vesafb in the kernel.  ('Y' instead
of 'M' or 'N')  Then, for 1280x1024x16 I put video=vesa vga=0x31A on
the kernel's command line.  (the details for how to do that depend on
what boot loader you use)

HTH,
-D

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-31 Thread Larry W. Irwin Sr.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 11:35:13AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

 BTW, your email address is wrong:
 host bigriver.net.mail1.psmtp.com[12.158.34.245] said:
 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)

  It should be fixed now. Thanks.
  
 | I read somewhere that the vesafb module is only
 | available in the 2.4.18 source. True?
 
 No.  It is in all 2.4.x kernels I've used.

  Thanks again, I have it resolved now.
  
Regards,
Larry

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-29 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:04:51PM -0600, Larry W. Irwin Sr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
 Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
 Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

The XF86v3 svga driver should work as a last gasp.

I've got an S3 ViRGE/VX which runs under XF86v4.  lspci gives it as:

00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c988 [ViRGE/VX] (rev 02)


Peace.

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-29 Thread Johann Koenig
On Tuesday October 28 at 01:04pm
Larry W. Irwin Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
 Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
 Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

The card will work, however it is sometimes paired with Sun workstation
monitors, which use sync-on-green. This combination caused many
headaches for me. The best I got for X was snow. I ended up installing
Windows NT and giving it to my mother. Why she still uses Juno is beyond
me, but it only runs on Windows. At least it's better than 95/98, as far
as networking goes.
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OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-28 Thread Larry W. Irwin Sr.
  I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

Larry

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-28 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Larry W. Irwin Sr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
 Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
 Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

I think your card is not supported by XFree 4.1, however it should work
with XFree 3.3.6 which is also included in Woody. Another option is to
upgrade to a recent version of XFree.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-28 Thread Manolis Tzanidakis
[20031028] Larry W. Irwin Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
 Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
 Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

It should work with xf86's s3 driver.  

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-28 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:04:51PM -0600, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote:
|   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
| Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
| Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

Does that card support the VESA interface?  If so, use the 'vesafb'
driver in the kernel and the 'FBDev' driver in X.  It's really simple
to configure, actually.  (I use that setup because it's a lot simpler
than messing around with X options)

-D

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Re: OOOOLLLLDDDD video card

2003-10-28 Thread Ron Jr
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 13:04, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote:
   I have to use a really old Phoenix S3 Trio32/64 PCI card, running
 Debian Woody, no mixed stable/testing/unstable. Is there a way to get
 Woody's xserver to work with this fossil?

One solution is the big stick:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/search.asp?keywords=video+pciimage1.x=0image1.y=0

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