OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Scarletdown
I'm finally giving VMWare a whirl, and am hoping someone here can help.

VMWare installed okay, and I was able to set up a virtual machine with 
Windows-98SE.  However, I am unable to get sound working, and am also 
having some video issues.

My motherboard uses the nForce-2 chipset, with onboard sound.  I was 
able to get the nForce Linux drivers up and running, and have sound 
outside of VMWare, but sound is disabled on 98SE within the VMWare 
virtual machine.

I was hoping that just installing the 98 drivers off the CD that came 
with my board would do the job, but the installer claims that there is 
no compatible hardware installed.

As for video, I am currently using the driver that comes with VMWare, 
VMWare SVGA-2.  That enabled me to set my resolution properly (1024x768 
- 32-Bit color).  However, that particular driver doesn't allow 
realization of my video card's full potential.  The card is a 256MB 
GeForce 5600 FX.  Like with the nForce drivers, the nVidia drivers for 
Linux are working fine, but I can't get certain features working under 
Linux, specifically Direct 3D, and the Windows installer for the video 
card does not see the card as a compatible device.  So what does it take 
to enable 3D features under VMWare?  I'm trying the Windows version of 
America's Army as my test app, and it won't run because Direct 3D isn't 
working.

Any advice on these problems?

Thanks.

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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Sanjay Chigurupati

Hi,

I have an Asus A7vm266 ( something like that) motherboard. It uses nforce 2
chipset.
had lot of problems gettin drivers to work on win98 se.  made system
unstable.
u might be better off with XP.

Win98se drivers seem problematic.  spent almost like a week tryin to get it
to work.

about geforce, check Nvidia's site for drivers. they do have 3d
acceleration support. did u download the driver from their site? u might
have to do some tuning. just check the download for instructions. should be
in readme file

HTH,
Sanjay



   

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I'm finally giving VMWare a whirl, and am hoping someone here can help.

VMWare installed okay, and I was able to set up a virtual machine with
Windows-98SE.  However, I am unable to get sound working, and am also
having some video issues.

My motherboard uses the nForce-2 chipset, with onboard sound.  I was
able to get the nForce Linux drivers up and running, and have sound
outside of VMWare, but sound is disabled on 98SE within the VMWare
virtual machine.

I was hoping that just installing the 98 drivers off the CD that came
with my board would do the job, but the installer claims that there is
no compatible hardware installed.

As for video, I am currently using the driver that comes with VMWare,
VMWare SVGA-2.  That enabled me to set my resolution properly (1024x768
- 32-Bit color).  However, that particular driver doesn't allow
realization of my video card's full potential.  The card is a 256MB
GeForce 5600 FX.  Like with the nForce drivers, the nVidia drivers for
Linux are working fine, but I can't get certain features working under
Linux, specifically Direct 3D, and the Windows installer for the video
card does not see the card as a compatible device.  So what does it take
to enable 3D features under VMWare?  I'm trying the Windows version of
America's Army as my test app, and it won't run because Direct 3D isn't
working.

Any advice on these problems?

Thanks.


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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Jan Suchy
Hi,

VMWare virtual machine emulates the SB Ensoniq AudioPCI
adapter (at least version 4 or later). Driver for this
one doesn't come with the original windows installation so
you will have to get it from www.creative.com
Seek more detailed info in vmware support:

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws4/doc/ws40_vidsound.html#1010378

AFAIK vmware doesn't support Direct3D yet.

Jan Suchy



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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Scarletdown
Jan Suchy wrote:
Hi,

VMWare virtual machine emulates the SB Ensoniq AudioPCI
adapter (at least version 4 or later). Driver for this
one doesn't come with the original windows installation so
you will have to get it from www.creative.com
That did the trick.  Now I can go ahead and pull the other sound card I 
put in in hopes of getting sound in VMWare.

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws4/doc/ws40_vidsound.html#1010378

AFAIK vmware doesn't support Direct3D yet.
Bummer.  I guess for now then, at least until I can decipher the 
technique for configuring WINE-X, I'll just maintain a minimal Win-98SE 
setup for when I want to play games that require 3D stuff.  Hopefully, I 
can manage to shrink my current Windows partitions and enlarge the Linux 
partition without screwing up my Linux installation...Either that, or 
make a new partition from the freed-up space, and have it mount as /usr 
or whichever directory most apps go into...Probably go ahead and make a 
dedicated partition to mount as /home as well...



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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Scarletdown
Sanjay Chigurupati wrote:
Hi,

I have an Asus A7vm266 ( something like that) motherboard. It uses nforce 2
chipset.
had lot of problems gettin drivers to work on win98 se.  made system
unstable.
u might be better off with XP.
Win98se drivers seem problematic.  spent almost like a week tryin to get it
to work.
about geforce, check Nvidia's site for drivers. they do have 3d
acceleration support. did u download the driver from their site? u might
have to do some tuning. just check the download for instructions. should be
in readme file
I think you completely misunderstood what I was trying to accomplish.  I 
was attempting to get these devices working on a Win-98SE _virtual 
machine_ under VMWare.  On the native Win-98 side of things, I had no 
problems whatsoever getting either the nForce or the GeForce drivers 
working.  And there is absolutely no fuggin' way I am going to allow XP 
to exist anywhere on my network anyway...M$ will also never get any of 
my scarce and hard-earned cash (my Windows-98SE disk was purchased at a 
thrift store...)

Anyhow, the VMWare sound problem has been solved.  But it looks like the 
VMWare 3D issue will be a no-go for now.

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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Scarletdown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[snip]
 Bummer.  I guess for now then, at least until I can decipher the 
 technique for configuring WINE-X, I'll just maintain a minimal Win-98SE 
 setup for when I want to play games that require 3D stuff.  Hopefully, I 
 can manage to shrink my current Windows partitions and enlarge the Linux 
 partition without screwing up my Linux installation...Either that, or 
 make a new partition from the freed-up space, and have it mount as /usr 
 or whichever directory most apps go into...Probably go ahead and make a 
 dedicated partition to mount as /home as well...
 

In my experience, action games in VMware are problematic. I have used
several versions of VMware.  Sound has gotten a lot better, from
unusable to minor stutters. Playing video clips from the TurboTax CD
was unusable.  Haven't tried video w/ the latest beta.  Within VMware,
Freecell is about the only playable game.  For things that need 3D
acceleration, stick to native booting Windows.  Wine quite possibly
will be worse. YMMV

Jeffrey



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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 07:16:30AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
 
 In my experience, action games in VMware are problematic. I have used
 several versions of VMware.  Sound has gotten a lot better, from
 unusable to minor stutters.

Yes, it has improved quite a bit.  I've actually managed frequently
clear playback of audio from my VMWare installation.

 Within VMware, Freecell is about the only playable game.  For things
 that need 3D acceleration, stick to native booting Windows.  Wine
 quite possibly will be worse.  YMMV

I've been using WineX for about a year now.  There are a number of games
that it won't play or install, but ther are also quite a few that it
plays quite well.  However, if your goal is to play a game that uses
DirectPlay multiplayer, don't bother.  DirectPlay doesn't work at the
moment.

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Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. - Neo


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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread Rthoreau
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 02:20:00PM +0530, Sanjay Chigurupati wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have an Asus A7vm266 ( something like that) motherboard. It uses nforce 2
 chipset.
 had lot of problems gettin drivers to work on win98 se.  made system
 unstable.
 u might be better off with XP.
 
 Win98se drivers seem problematic.  spent almost like a week tryin to get it
 to work.
 
 about geforce, check Nvidia's site for drivers. they do have 3d
 acceleration support. did u download the driver from their site? u might
 have to do some tuning. just check the download for instructions. should be
 in readme file
 
 HTH,
 Sanjay
 
 
 
  
   
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 I'm finally giving VMWare a whirl, and am hoping someone here can help.
 
 VMWare installed okay, and I was able to set up a virtual machine with
 Windows-98SE.  However, I am unable to get sound working, and am also
 having some video issues.
 
 My motherboard uses the nForce-2 chipset, with onboard sound.  I was
 able to get the nForce Linux drivers up and running, and have sound
 outside of VMWare, but sound is disabled on 98SE within the VMWare
 virtual machine.
 
 I was hoping that just installing the 98 drivers off the CD that came
 with my board would do the job, but the installer claims that there is
 no compatible hardware installed.
 
 As for video, I am currently using the driver that comes with VMWare,
 VMWare SVGA-2.  That enabled me to set my resolution properly (1024x768
 - 32-Bit color).  However, that particular driver doesn't allow
 realization of my video card's full potential.  The card is a 256MB
 GeForce 5600 FX.  Like with the nForce drivers, the nVidia drivers for
 Linux are working fine, but I can't get certain features working under
 Linux, specifically Direct 3D, and the Windows installer for the video
 card does not see the card as a compatible device.  So what does it take
 to enable 3D features under VMWare?  I'm trying the Windows version of
 America's Army as my test app, and it won't run because Direct 3D isn't
 working.
 
 Any advice on these problems?
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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What are you trying to do?
It sounds like you might be better off installing Windows XP, or maybe, just maybe
installing Debian since this is a Debian mailing list.
Also Direct 3d is a Windows only graphics layer, Whats wrong with using Nvidia
Linux drivers, and OpenGL, do some research, a lot of people have gotten their Nvidia 
Chipsets
to work in Linux.

You might also want to post to a VMWare mailing list about your VMware problems.

Rthoreau


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Re: OT - nForce, GeForce and VMWare

2004-01-27 Thread John L. Fjellstad
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Scarletdown wrote:

 My motherboard uses the nForce-2 chipset, with onboard sound.  I was
 able to get the nForce Linux drivers up and running, and have sound
 outside of VMWare, but sound is disabled on 98SE within the VMWare
 virtual machine.

The virtual sound device is a soundblaster in the VMWare virtual machine.
 
 - 32-Bit color).  However, that particular driver doesn't allow
 realization of my video card's full potential.  The card is a 256MB
 GeForce 5600 FX.  Like with the nForce drivers, the nVidia drivers for

I think you have a misunderstanding on how VMWare works.  What it does is
create virtual machine inside your host OS (in your case, Linux).  It then
creates some virtual devices, like a soundblaster soundcard, a generic
video device etc, which it connects to your real devices.  But as far as
hosted OS is concerned, it only sees the virtual devices, which means you
don't get the full potential of your device.

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