Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
vijay == vijay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vijay Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. Atleast they should switch to some other MUAs as has been discussed in the list for the past few days or move over to better OS's(like gnu/linux). vijay BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) My machine at work dual boots Debian and Redhat. I use Debian for most of my work, which is writing C code for Solaris, thus my PC is basically a glorified X-terminal (not really, because all the apps I use - Emacs, Netscape, xterms - run locally, I just ssh to the Sun boxes). I confess that I only installed RedHat on a small partition to get the sound card configuration from 'sndconfig' (that was before it entered woody). I'm thinking about ditching it, but on second thought I guess I would like to keep my RPM skills up to date. I gave up using my PC at home since I married. Oh yeah, I've been MS-free for one and a half year now. cheers, -- Allan F. Caetano Universo On Line - EngProd - F: (11) 224 4418 ComVc: 479966 ICQ: 68214944 Who is this peer that keeps resetting my connection? I have a broken pipe I wanna hit him with!
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
vijay == vijay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vijay Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. Atleast they should switch to some other MUAs as has been discussed in the list for the past few days or move over to better OS's(like gnu/linux). vijay BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) vijay See ya. vijay Vijay. vijay Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com vijay Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! vijay -- vijay Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Allan F. Caetano Universo On Line - EngProd - F: (11) 224 4418 ComVc: 479966 ICQ: 68214944 Who is this peer that keeps resetting my connection? I have a broken pipe I wanna hit him with!
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 12:13:51AM -0500, Casey Henderson wrote: I don't know who it is but I've already caught the stupid virus. I'm not using Outlook, but being the fool that I am, I accidently ran his attachment, and it screwed up the file associations in Windows. Basically it associates .exe files with a nonexistant program so that when you try to run a program it won't work. I had to reinstall Windows. I didn't lose anything, but it was a pain in the arse and a waste of 45 minutes of my time. Geez. hmm. you coulda spent it installing debian. now THAT woulda been productive! -- There are only two places in the world where time takes precedence over the job to be done. School and prison. --William Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Everyone in this list : Sorry for bringing so much trouble to you. It started from a mail came from one of my friends. I didn't aware the file attached to the mail was a virus untill I found my e-mail software began to send mails automatically. I tried to stop sending those mails and terminated the excution of the virus and the e-mail software. But the virus kept restarting. After a few minutes, I finally terminate my e-mail software and the virus, but there were some mails with the virus had been sent out and all the appli- cation programs in my computer could not launch, including my e-mail software, so I can't sent warnings to you. Now, after more than 10 hours rebulding my system, I finally can send e-mails. I want to tell all of you that I'm truely sorry. Sorry H.C.Hsiang
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. Atleast they should switch to some other MUAs as has been discussed in the list for the past few days or move over to better OS's(like gnu/linux). BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) See ya. Vijay. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Debian for php, sql, staroffice, mail, and a few other misc things. Windows 98 for Macromedia Flash 5, Dreamweaver and Fireworks. As much as I try, i can't get around not being able to use flash 5 and fireworks (customers like their pretty tricks :) otherwise i'd convert to linux completely. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. Atleast they should switch to some other MUAs as has been discussed in the list for the past few days or move over to better OS's(like gnu/linux). BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) See ya. Vijay. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
At 02:58 15-11-00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. And it teaches people to use a good virus scanner with very recent definition files. The virus scanner I use (Norman Virus Control) warned me that te virus W32/Navidad.32768.Worm was attached to the message and removed the virus before my MUA (Eudora) could open the message. Robert-Jan
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 02:58:28AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) Home: I occasionally boot Win95 to play games (the only one recently has been Shogun: Total War), but it's been... a couple months since the last time I did that, and I recently bought a PlayStation (1, not 2), which should allow me to get non-Linux gaming fixes without killing my uptime. (I've actually found myself in stores looking at Windows games and consciously thinking, It looks like a good game, but it's not anything worth rebooting for. Kinda scary the first time that happens...) Everything else is on Linux. Work: I have the good fortune to have two PCs on my desk, one running Linux and one running NT. I write server-side software for Windows and *nix. I do all my coding on the Linux box (I'll take multiple vi sessions over Visual Studio (or any other IDE I've seen) any day), then turn around and build the code on the NT box (using make in CygWin's bash port, so it's a pretty unixy NT). I also use the NT box for network browsing (as in 'NT Explorer'/ 'Network Neighborhood', not www), although I suppose I could get around to trying out tksmb and do that from Linux also... -- Two words: Windows survives. - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin. - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
On Mié 15 Nov 2000 11:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to use windows since part of my work is on Lotus Notes development though I boot it inside vmware. I also have an unsupported parallel port scanner :-( Everything else under Linux. Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. Atleast they should switch to some other MUAs as has been discussed in the list for the past few days or move over to better OS's(like gnu/linux). BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) See ya. Vijay. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! -- _ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Selling Soluciones Valencia Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2 _ --- -- _ Daniel de los Reyes S2-Selling Soluciones Valencia Spain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by Debian GNU-Linux 2.2 _
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Hmm yeah. I could try VMware, have done in the past. But, I have a machine with 64mb ram only, Tie that up with Vmware and flash 5, and things sloow dramatically. Before you say upgrade, think of the cost here, We're technologically disadvantaged in AU hehe. Plus, for some strange reason, even following the docs, I could never get more than 16 colours out of vmware. It's just basically easier to dual boot, and put up with it. I'm not concerned about uptimes here, I don't need to be, I don't have a machine that has to be connected to the net 24/7, I do have one that does, but it's a different machine, running Debian, I only use Debian on my box for what I said in my previous email. It's a case of use what's suitable and what's in the budget, not what's l33t and anti-Microsoft. My last word. Peter Good. - Original Message - From: Blake Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Peter Good' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED]? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 VMWARE. - -Original Message- From: Peter Good [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: H.C.Hsiang; debian-user Subject: Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Debian for php, sql, staroffice, mail, and a few other misc things. Windows 98 for Macromedia Flash 5, Dreamweaver and Fireworks. As much as I try, i can't get around not being able to use flash 5 and fireworks (customers like their pretty tricks :) otherwise i'd convert to linux completely. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it is ok now. But it does teach people not to open attachments that they do not know about espcially when using M$ softwares. Atleast they should switch to some other MUAs as has been discussed in the list for the past few days or move over to better OS's(like gnu/linux). BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) See ya. Vijay. Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.3 iQA/AwUBOhMWbYqA07MPedgtEQLjVwCg+flwPkj5mXNePGMDz6DiUnY+3xMAni4P 9r//egaO7fmQ7VqzvucfLi4x =kxS0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 02:58:28AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW how many of you on this list use multiple oses on your desktop and which ones do you use and for what purposes. That should be an interesting one...:) Well, due to limited resources I still dual-boot this machine, though I only go to M$ for games, DVD movies and the odd occasion where I want to look at a web site that insists on using java/shockwave/whatever that causes netscape to lose it. As soon as I get it together enough for 3 maybe more machines, I'll have a Linux firewall, Linux workstation/server and a Windows box for those awkward moments. Cheers, Tom -- As you grow older, you will still do foolish things, but you will do them with much more enthusiasm. -- The Cowboy
Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net Time is Free
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
I don't know who it is but I've already caught the stupid virus. I'm not using Outlook, but being the fool that I am, I accidently ran his attachment, and it screwed up the file associations in Windows. Basically it associates .exe files with a nonexistant program so that when you try to run a program it won't work. I had to reinstall Windows. I didn't lose anything, but it was a pain in the arse and a waste of 45 minutes of my time. Geez. Casey -- Casey Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.umaine.edu/~hender97/
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Eric G . Miller wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! No they're not. H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. HCH was helping people, actually. Unfortunately though, he's using Outlook and has sent a virus to the list, causing auto-antivirus software everywhere to go beserk sending warning messages to the list. -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net Time is Free How very ironic.
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Eric G . Miller wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. I'm sure it's related to the windows virus that is appending itself to his mails and probably not his fault at all (except for the bas judgement and taste of using a windows mail reader). -- see shy jo
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:05:51PM -0800, Eric G . Miller (egm2@jps.net) wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. navidad.exe is a Legacy MS Windows virus, Mr. Hsaing appears to have caught himself a case. I'm blacklisting him and the various virus detection engines which are spamming the list for the meantime. Virus data: http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/navidad.htm -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp63XauuzuQW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Procmail filters for attachments (was Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?)
on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:14:11PM -0900, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:05:51PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. yeah it looks like this: :0 * ^X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express.* /dev/null please folks use a real MUA, despite what MS says there ARE alternatives to this crap. While I'm not completely unconvinced of the merits of such a filter, it's a bit further than I plan to go this week. Anyone got a procmail recipie which will detect a file 'navidad.exe' as an attachment? I'm still wrestling with procmailrc rules -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpSPGwy5oYqC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:05:51PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. yeah it looks like this: :0 * ^X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express.* /dev/null please folks use a real MUA, despite what MS says there ARE alternatives to this crap. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpTp4RbDwSPI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! No they're not. H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. HCH was helping people, actually. yes they are :o) out of the magic of the internet i found a few of my mails mysteriously appearing again, posted under his name with my signature. he's obviously got a virus or is being malicious ;o) now to ponder if the procmail recipe to disgard Outlook mail is a wise one ;-) cheers -- Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://repose.ath.cx/ An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it. -- James Michener, Space pgpmyVWrA8SGe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! It only happens to mails whose originals also had attachments - usually PGP/GPG signatures. I suppose it's a stealth tactic. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
--- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric G . Miller egm2@jps.net wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! It only happens to mails whose originals also had attachments - usually PGP/GPG signatures. I suppose it's a stealth tactic. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null It could be someone that has no women or men :) in their lives and this is the only way they can be 'happy' = Shel ICQ- 23454126 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trying to master Storm Linux 2000 http://www.stormix.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/
Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?
Proabaly an artifact of the trojan--spread by mirroring everything sent to it with the trojan attached. On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. -- When you are having a bad day, and it seems like everybody is trying to tick you off, remember that it takes 42 muscles to produce a frown, but only 4 muscles to work the trigger of a good sniper rifle. Who is John galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
Re: Procmail filters for attachments (was Re: Okay who's this H.C.Hsiang hchsiang@tpts4.seed.net.tw?)
Look on www.securityfocus.com: they had a thread about .procmailrc rules for email trojans about the time of the (melissa?) virus. On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:14:11PM -0900, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:05:51PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote: Umm someone's repeating debian-user mails. This get's to be obnoxious! H.C.Hsiang [EMAIL PROTECTED], seems to be the culprit. Time for a killfile entry. yeah it looks like this: :0 * ^X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express.* /dev/null please folks use a real MUA, despite what MS says there ARE alternatives to this crap. While I'm not completely unconvinced of the merits of such a filter, it's a bit further than I plan to go this week. Anyone got a procmail recipie which will detect a file 'navidad.exe' as an attachment? I'm still wrestling with procmailrc rules -- When you are having a bad day, and it seems like everybody is trying to tick you off, remember that it takes 42 muscles to produce a frown, but only 4 muscles to work the trigger of a good sniper rifle. Who is John galt? [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
