Re (3): POP3 softwares.
From: Osamu Aoki Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 01:08:44 +0900 > If qpopper can do it via locking why not make your local MUA to > do the same. The MUA lacks locking. I would have to write it. > maildrop package comes with lockmail for such need. (I suspect procmail > comes with similar util.) You just have to use such thing. maildrop or procmail would solve the POP3 requirement. stunnel is a more general solution available to other protocols. As mentioned in the previous message, once stunnel is working the MUA can SMTP in Stunnel directly to the remote MTA. If eventually I can remove exim, so much the better. > Also, use of maildir format instead of mbox avoids locking issue. The MUA understands mbox and not maildir. Regards, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +1 360 639 0202 http://carnot.yi.org/ New address Bcc: peter at easthope. ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1W76Gx-0006Bg-Es@dalton.invalid
Re: Re (2): POP3 softwares.
Hi, On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 05:42:29AM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:18:29 +0900 > From: Osamu Aoki > > ??? Why bother with qpopper. It is a local mbox. > > Ideally the one mbox should work, but I'm not sure that the MUA and > getmail will each respect access by the other. qpopper will respect > getmail in access to the mbox and respond to the MUA with POP3. This > at the cost of a second mbox and delays up to the retrieval interval > of qpopper. I see. If qpopper can do it via locking why not make your local MUA to do the same. maildrop package comes with lockmail for such need. (I suspect procmail comes with similar util.) You just have to use such thing. Also, use of maildir format instead of mbox avoids locking issue. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140125160844.GB23831@goofy
Re (2): POP3 softwares.
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:18:29 +0900 From: Osamu Aoki > ??? Why bother with qpopper. It is a local mbox. Ideally the one mbox should work, but I'm not sure that the MUA and getmail will each respect access by the other. qpopper will respect getmail in access to the mbox and respond to the MUA with POP3. This at the cost of a second mbox and delays up to the retrieval interval of qpopper. Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 07:54:08 + From: > I'am using popa3d (Tiny POP3 daemon, designed with security as the > primary goal) and stunnel for SSL on server-side ... Thanks. Stunnel appears to be the right answer here. The example in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stunnel with substitution of POP3 for SMTP, is exactly the scenario I've described. Further, the SMTP example allows the MUA to submit to the remote mail server directly rather than through exim4 on localhost. The whole setup is simpler with Stunnel. From: Martin Steigerwald Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:24:16 +0100 > Move to a MUA which can do SSL/TLS. If Stunnel fails I'll consider that. Thanks to everyone for all the feedback,... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +1 360 639 0202 http://carnot.yi.org/ New address Bcc: peter at easthope. ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1W73VF-0005jk-Cw@dalton.invalid
Re: POP3 softwares.
On 1/25/14, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:46:15PM -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: >> Problem >> Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a >> local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and >> lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. >> >> Candidate Solution >> Let getmail, in the POP3-over-SSL instance, retrieve messages from > > Good choice for getmail :-) > Osamu (getmail maintainer) Cool :) Are you able to compare getmail with mpop? When I gave up fetchmail (a fine day :), a few years ago, mpop came out trumps for me at the time - unbelievably fast! I'm wondering what getmail could provide as compared with mpop. I am soon to move from a webmail MUA back to mutt (it's been too long, I know). TIA Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNST=ykqxbkcohptcoevxsygu4foc5t5c19sz4pcxguf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: POP3 softwares.
Hi, On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:46:15PM -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let getmail, in the POP3-over-SSL instance, retrieve messages from Good choice for getmail :-) > the server and queue in an mbox file. OK. > Run qpopper to allow the MUA > to retrieve from the mbox on demand. ??? Why bother with qpopper. It is a local mbox. > Questions > 1. Rather than getmail and qpopper, can one software do this task? >If so, which is recommended? You are using getmail + qpopper + some local MUA Just make things simple by dropping qpopper. > 2. The documentation for qpopper suggests that it can only acquire >messages from a spool. If the answer to 1 is "no", is there >some way to pipe messages directly from the retrieving POP3 to >the delivering POP3? By the way, mbox spool is not always good for you if you use noatime filesystem. getmail supports maildirs etc which may be better if your MUA supports it. I actually use mailfilter to split mail into many different mail box. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_the_remote_mail_retrieval_and_forward_utility http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_mail_delivery_agent_mda_with_filter Osamu (getmail maintainer) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140125091829.GC2540@goofy
Re: POP3 softwares.
2014-01-19 19:02 keltezéssel, Peter Easthope írta: >> I use fetchmail for similar task. > > OK; thanks. In your application, where or how does fetchmail deliver > messages? > The documentation I've seen mentions acquisition by POP but doesn't mention > disposal. It puts the emails to the user's mail spool via the local MTA (I use postfix for it). Dovecot is also installed as an IMAP server so the user can read it via IMAP also. Of course POP3 can be also provided. -- --- Friczy --- 'Death is not a bug, it's a feature' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52dc35ec.2030...@freemail.hu
Re: POP3 softwares.
On Sun, January 19, 2014 2:53 am, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > I use fetchmail for similar task. OK; thanks. In your application, where or how does fetchmail deliver messages? The documentation I've seen mentions acquisition by POP but doesn't mention disposal. ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. Bcc: peter at easthope.ca "http://carnot.yi.org/ " -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ec837bcc60a60f98d67c5045f9fc83e2.squir...@easthope.ca
Re: POP3 softwares.
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 21:46:15 schrieb Peter Easthope: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let getmail, in the POP3-over-SSL instance, retrieve messages from > the server and queue in an mbox file. Run qpopper to allow the MUA > to retrieve from the mbox on demand. Another candidate solution: Move to a MUA which can do SSL/TLS. But I bet thats the fixed thing in this scenario? -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8973209.8a5YV2jH6U@merkaba
Re: POP3 softwares.
2014-01-19 06:46 keltezéssel, Peter Easthope írta: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let getmail, in the POP3-over-SSL instance, retrieve messages from > the server and queue in an mbox file. Run qpopper to allow the MUA > to retrieve from the mbox on demand. > > Questions > 1. Rather than getmail and qpopper, can one software do this task? >If so, which is recommended? I use fetchmail for similar task. -- --- Friczy --- 'Death is not a bug, it's a feature' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52dbaeb0.7090...@freemail.hu
Re: POP3 softwares.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:46:15PM -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let getmail, in the POP3-over-SSL instance, retrieve messages from > the server and queue in an mbox file. Run qpopper to allow the MUA > to retrieve from the mbox on demand. > > Questions > 1. Rather than getmail and qpopper, can one software do this task? >If so, which is recommended? I'am using popa3d (Tiny POP3 daemon, designed with security as the primary goal) and stunnel for SSL on server-side and mutt on client side. I suppose all modern email client support mbox format (and POP3 of course) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140119075408.ga3...@yandex.ru
POP3 softwares.
Problem Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. Candidate Solution Let getmail, in the POP3-over-SSL instance, retrieve messages from the server and queue in an mbox file. Run qpopper to allow the MUA to retrieve from the mbox on demand. Questions 1. Rather than getmail and qpopper, can one software do this task? If so, which is recommended? 2. The documentation for qpopper suggests that it can only acquire messages from a spool. If the answer to 1 is "no", is there some way to pipe messages directly from the retrieving POP3 to the delivering POP3? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 639 0202. Bcc: peter at easthope.ca "http://carnot.yi.org/ " -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8a583a571cd917163c9590d9e3591a30.squir...@easthope.ca
