Pine license and other GPL rants (Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?)

1998-12-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Oh boy, another flame war...

George Bonser wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote:
 
  Please check out the mail list archives on pine.  The pine people will
  not allow binaries of pine distributed with bugs fixed unless they
  officially approve.  To approve officially means a lengthy process.
  They are their own license PITA.
 
 I do not think you can say that since Debian never attempted to get their
 binary appproved. It is ok enough for Red Hat and Caldera and other
 distros. Last I checked they had packages. It is an arrogance thing ... it
 is a screw ease of use, it does not fit our political agenda
 thing. 

Are you advocating that we _not_ follow pine's license and
distribute modified binaries anyway?  Thus breaking the law?

If you have a problem with pine's license, you should bring it up
with them.  Debian is just following it.

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Re: Pine license and other GPL rants (Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?)

1998-12-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith

George Bonser wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
 
  Are you advocating that we _not_ follow pine's license and
  distribute modified binaries anyway?  Thus breaking the law?
 
 No, I am advocating getting the binary approved.

That's likely not manageable.

What happens the next day when a new bug is submitted to the bug
tracking system?

What happens when a major security hole is published on the net,
and it takes Debian 3 months to get yet anothet binary approved?

Peter


Re: Pine license and other GPL rants (Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?)

1998-12-17 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, George Bonser wrote:

 : On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
 : 
 :  Are you advocating that we _not_ follow pine's license and
 :  distribute modified binaries anyway?  Thus breaking the law?
 : 
 : No, I am advocating getting the binary approved.

Go for it.  Just remember this:

8.License Must Not Be Specific to Debian 

 The rights attached to the program must not depend on the program's
 being part of a Debian system. If the program is extracted from
 Debian and used or distributed without Debian but otherwise within
 the terms of the program's license, all parties to whom the program
 is redistributed should have the same rights as those that are
 granted in conjunction with the Debian system.

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