Re: Caps lock problem
Slaanesh wrote: Hi folks, In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode whereas in the Unix world, and indeed under Debian GNU/Linux, one has to hit caps lock key again. I would like to know if someone could tell me how to configure my keyboard to act the Microsoft way instead of the standard way ? Hi, I think the Caps-Lock behaviour is primarily attributed to the country and not to the operating system. My German keyboard-layout under Windows releases Caps when I press shift whereas when I worked at a computer in the US it would require me to press Caps again to release it. Just did a quick check on my laptop (Novell Dos 7;-)) and it showed the same behaviour when I switched it to US-layout. Under Windows (2000) you can change that behaviour under Keyboard-Settings, in KDE (3.2) you can go to Keyboard Layout, Xbd Options and then scroll to the bottom to find Caps Lock behaviour. If you want more ways to control the Caps-Key, check out this article: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/23/TheAnswerGirl.pdf Cheers Mike -- Michael G. Hansen Monheim/Germany http://www.pfna.de - http://www.mghansen.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
Le vendredi 12 Mars 2004 11:06, Michael G. Hansen a écrit : Under Windows (2000) you can change that behaviour under Keyboard-Settings, in KDE (3.2) you can go to Keyboard Layout, Xbd Options and then scroll to the bottom to find Caps Lock behaviour. I've tried to do it the Kde 3.2 way but nothing appends at all... I've tested all the different options for caps lock behaviour but without seeing any difference ?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
Le vendredi 12 Mars 2004 05:45, N. Thomas a écrit : * Slaanesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-12 00:00:31 +0100]: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode I'm writing this on a Windows 2000 box, and I have to hit caps lock again to disable it. What version of Windows has this functionality? May be because that's a specific thing for European version, but for us in France Windows 95/98/98SE had this option by default ... and for Windows 2000/XP we have to check an option in the Keyboard parameters ... The keyboard particularities seems to be important in the word ... ;o) But, like Slaanesh, I would like to make this running with KDE, and the last KDE3.2 seems to give options like this ... but they are not working ... or we don't know how to !? But may be like the Screensavers gived with KDE 3.2 by default are not working without xscreensaver and xscreensaver-gl package (and the information are not clearly gived), So we may missed a package for making running well this part of KDE, but for the moment we don't find any solution ! :o( Regards, -- Hervé Piedvache Elma Ingénierie Informatique 6 rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré F-75008 - Paris - France Pho. 33-144949901 Fax. 33-144949902 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
Hi, Le vendredi 12 Mars 2004 11:06, Michael G. Hansen a écrit : Under Windows (2000) you can change that behaviour under Keyboard-Settings, in KDE (3.2) you can go to Keyboard Layout, Xbd Options and then scroll to the bottom to find Caps Lock behaviour. If you want more ways to control the Caps-Key, check out this article: http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/23/TheAnswerGirl.pdf I have seen those options ... but I have tried them without any result ! :o(( The documentation seems to be clear ... but I have tried also each options for Caps Lock without any result :o( May be a missing package or another parameter somewhere else ... Any idea are well done ;o) -- Hervé Piedvache Elma Ingénierie Informatique 6 rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré F-75008 - Paris - France Pho. 33-144949901 Fax. 33-144949902 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
Number Six writes: So long ago I can barely remember it, but the metaphors of typewriters were borrowed to keyboards. That's how I first understood caps lock. I don't recall any terminal except the 5250 working this way (but it's been a long time...). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
Slaanesh writes: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode... ?? That's _bizarre_. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slaanesh writes: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode... ?? That's _bizarre_. That's the way typewriters work. Also IIRC, (at least on Selectrics), it was called Shift Lock, and did the obvious thing with regard to the upper row, too. -- Lift me down, so I can make the Earth tremble. --Bucky Katt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 12:00:31AM +0100, Slaanesh wrote: Hi folks, In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode whereas in the Unix world, and indeed under Debian GNU/Linux, one has to hit caps lock key again. I would like to know if someone could tell me how to configure my keyboard to act the Microsoft way instead of the standard way ? I had never realized this. This was interesting so I started looking. I'm sure others can improve on this, but for the console you can define a custom keymap as follows. From the man keymaps: The following entry sets the Shift and Caps Lock keys to behave more nicely, like in older typewriters. That is, pressing Caps Lock key once or more sets the keyboard in CapsLock state and pressing either of the Shift keys releases it. keycode 42 = Uncaps_Shift keycode 54 = Uncaps_Shift keycode 58 = Caps_On (see also loadkeys for loading a custom keymap). For X (I'm not very experienced with modifying X so take this for whatever it's worth to you): Using xmodmap one can change X like this: clear Lock keycode 66 = Shift_Lock add Lock = Shift_Lock (I think 66 is the right keycode, I actually have mine changed so that is the control key). I noticed my keyboard LED no longer lights up (since it indicates Caps Lock not Shift Lock I guess. :) Although this was only in X, on the console it behaved normally. I hope this starts you looking in the right direction. As I said, I haven't done this before. -- Slaanesh -- Chris Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
* Slaanesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-12 00:00:31 +0100]: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode I'm writing this on a Windows 2000 box, and I have to hit caps lock again to disable it. What version of Windows has this functionality? Thomas -- N. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Caps lock problem
-Original Message- From: N. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 12 March 2004 15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Caps lock problem * Slaanesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-12 00:00:31 +0100]: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode I'm writing this on a Windows 2000 box, and I have to hit caps lock again to disable it. What version of Windows has this functionality? None that I know of but the old IBM 5250 terminals (used on their Mini computer series System/34, System/36, System/38 and AS400) used to work this way. Its possible that he is using some 5250 emulation software. -- Col -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 04:00:56PM +1100, Colin Bell wrote: -Original Message- From: N. Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 12 March 2004 15:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Caps lock problem * Slaanesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-12 00:00:31 +0100]: In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode I'm writing this on a Windows 2000 box, and I have to hit caps lock again to disable it. What version of Windows has this functionality? None that I know of but the old IBM 5250 terminals (used on their Mini computer series System/34, System/36, System/38 and AS400) used to work this way. Its possible that he is using some 5250 emulation software. Suddenly my mind flashes back to 1985 and my Mom's old Manual Typewriter with the CAPS LOCK which would stay until one pressed the Shift key. So long ago I can barely remember it, but the metaphors of typewriters were borrowed to keyboards. That's how I first understood caps lock. I miss typewriters. Anybody else here take typing on IBM selectrics in Junior high? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Caps lock problem
Slaanesh wrote: Hi folks, In the Microsoft Windows world, one has to use the shift key to disable the caps lock mode Not any MS Windows computer I have ever used. Tell us what your special circumstances are. Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]