Re: PPP config with external modem

2004-03-22 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Preston Boyington ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 This weekend I installed a base Debian system using the new installer.
  My only problem is after using pppconfig to setup my external modem
 it will activate the modem (dial and apparently connect) but I can't
 get apt-setup to connect to any sources to download programs.  I su
 in to pon my provider

You can dial with pon as a user, if you are in the dip group.

 but can't poff without changing into the 
 /usr/sbin/ directory and intitating the command there.

Strange. On my system is poff in /usr/bin. What does whereis poff say?
Do you get an error message if you use poff from somewhere else?

 I am wondering if it may have something to do with DHCP that was setup
 during the install.  How do I change it to a static IP address and try
 it that way?  Have others experienced something similar?

Maybe you set a gateway for your network connection, and now this is the
default route, meaning your system tries to make all connections over
the local network instead of the modem. What is the output of 
/sbin/route?

Also check the DNS for your modem is configured properly (probably you
need dynmaic DNS).

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: PPP config with external modem

2004-03-22 Thread John Hasler
Preston writes:
 This weekend I installed a base Debian system using the new installer.
 My only problem is after using pppconfig to setup my external modem it
 will activate the modem (dial and apparently connect) but I can't get
 apt-setup to connect to any sources to download programs.

Tell us _exactly_ what you did and _exactly_ what happened.  Try 'ping
www.debian.org' and 'ping 192.25.206.10'.
 I su in to pon my provider...

You wouldn't need to do that if you had added your non-root user as a ppp
user.  In pppconfig do 'Change--Provider-Advanced-Add User' and follow
instructions.

 ...but can't poff without changing into the /usr/sbin/ directory and
 intitating the command there.

Looks like 'poff' is in /usr/sbin (it should be in /usr/bin) and PATH is
not correct.

 I am wondering if it may have something to do with DHCP that was setup
 during the install.

No, but why was DHCP set up?  Do you need it?  It has nothing to do with
dialup.

 How do I change it to a static IP address and try it that way?

Pppd takes care of its own IP numbers.  DHCP is not involved.


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RE: PPP config with external modem

2004-03-22 Thread Preston Boyington
John Hasler wrote:
: Preston writes:
:: This weekend I installed a base Debian system using the new
:: installer. My only problem is after using pppconfig to setup my
:: external modem it will activate the modem (dial and apparently
:: connect) but I can't get apt-setup to connect to any sources to
:: download programs. 
: 
: Tell us _exactly_ what you did and _exactly_ what happened.  Try 'ping
: www.debian.org' and 'ping 192.25.206.10'.
:: I su in to pon my provider...
: 
: You wouldn't need to do that if you had added your non-root
: user as a ppp
: user.  In pppconfig do 'Change--Provider-Advanced-Add
: User' and follow
: instructions.
: 

tried the add user feature and was not able to initiate pon unless i was root 
(will verify when i get home).

:: ...but can't poff without changing into the /usr/sbin/ directory
:: and intitating the command there.
: 
: Looks like 'poff' is in /usr/sbin (it should be in /usr/bin)
: and PATH is
: not correct.
: 

i will double check, but i am almost sure i was in /usr/sbin instead of /usr/bin (will 
verify when i get home)

:: I am wondering if it may have something to do with DHCP that was
:: setup during the install.
: 
: No, but why was DHCP set up?  Do you need it?  It has nothing
: to do with
: dialup.
: 

it (installer) automagically configures DHCP if a network card is present (unless run 
as expert)

:: How do I change it to a static IP address and try it that way?
: 
: Pppd takes care of its own IP numbers.  DHCP is not involved.
: 
: 
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Re: PPP config with external modem

2004-03-22 Thread Paul Johnson
Preston Boyington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am wondering if it may have something to do with DHCP that was
 setup during the install.  How do I change it to a static IP address
 and try it that way?  Have others experienced something similar?

DHCP is not used on PPP, PPP itself handles address assignment.  Are
you otherwise able to browse?

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Re: PPP config with external modem

2004-03-22 Thread Paul Johnson
*Please turn on your line wraps*
Preston Boyington [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 John Hasler wrote:
 : Preston writes:
 :: This weekend I installed a base Debian system using the new
 :: installer. My only problem is after using pppconfig to setup my
 :: external modem it will activate the modem (dial and apparently
 :: connect) but I can't get apt-setup to connect to any sources to
 :: download programs. 
 : 
 : Tell us _exactly_ what you did and _exactly_ what happened.  Try 'ping
 : www.debian.org' and 'ping 192.25.206.10'.
 :: I su in to pon my provider...
 : 
 : You wouldn't need to do that if you had added your non-root
 : user as a ppp
 : user.  In pppconfig do 'Change--Provider-Advanced-Add
 : User' and follow
 : instructions.
 : 

 tried the add user feature and was not able to initiate pon
 unless i was root (will verify when i get home).

Well, did you log out, then log back in?  Group changes do not take
effect until the next time you log in after the change.

 :: I am wondering if it may have something to do with DHCP that was
 :: setup during the install.
 : 
 : No, but why was DHCP set up?  Do you need it?  It has nothing
 : to do with
 : dialup.
 : 

 it (installer) automagically configures DHCP if a network card is
 present (unless run as expert)

Right, but it won't try to DHCP on serial interfaces like ppp0...

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