Re: Virtual PC 5.2
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 17:25, Adelle L. Hartley wrote: > > For S3Trio chipsets > > apt-get install xserver-s3 > > I have done the above, and modified the "Device" section > of my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to read > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Generic Video Card" > Driver "s3" > BusID "PCI:00:08:0" > VideoRam8192 > EndSection > > The output I get now is: > > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module s3 > (EE) Failed to load module "s3" (module does not exist, 0) > (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.0 > (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" > compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 > (EE) Nop drivers available. > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > > Is there something else that I am supposed to do to use > this driver? Sorry, it's been many months since I had to deal with an S3. I thought when I did that the configuration step threw the confile over to /etc/X11/XF86Config instead of XF86Config-4. Might be an idea to see if you have a XF86Config and check out what it said in there. I've been told by a guy who deals with much more legacy hardware than I do that the vesa driver in XFree-4.1 does occasionally work with the S3Trio chipset, it just never has for me. Possibly you need to dpkg --configure xserver-s3 to get the correct confile into use. Anyway I see by your other post you got it going :) Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual PC 5.2
Woohoo! It works. I edited the the configuration file to use the "vesa" driver. Don't really care right now if there is a better driver available for the s3 card. Haven't got the sound working yet, but that's a subject for another day. Thankyou! > > For S3Trio chipsets > apt-get install xserver-s3 > > or for S3Virge > apt-get install xserver-s3v > > I think that its only the Trio chipset driver that's broken > in Woody (Version > 4.1), so the first option is probably what you need. > > I'm in this thread late so I hope I'm not talking at cross purposes. > > And BTW, the vesa driver does work for S3Trio in Version 4.2 > eg Knoppix 3.2. > > HTH > Bob Parker > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual PC 5.2
> For S3Trio chipsets > apt-get install xserver-s3 I have done the above, and modified the "Device" section of my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to read Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "s3" BusID "PCI:00:08:0" VideoRam8192 EndSection The output I get now is: (WW) Warning, couldn't open module s3 (EE) Failed to load module "s3" (module does not exist, 0) (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.0 (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 (EE) Nop drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found Is there something else that I am supposed to do to use this driver? Adelle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
Adelle L. Hartley wrote: I am too much of a newbie at this to have even figured out how to go back to the bash prompt. (I'll have to figure that out before I attempt to change anything else). Ctrl-Alt-F2 should get you to the second virtual terminal (VT) console. At that point, you can kill your X session with a command similar to: /etc/init.d/xdm stop (replace xdm with whichever login manager you're running - xdm, gdm, kdm, or wdm being the most likely - "ls /etc/init.d/*dm" to see possibilities) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:25, Michael Martinell wrote: > It appears that xfree86 does not support the base S3 card after 3.3.6. It > only supports the savage series. > > Is there a recommended downgrade path that works? > > Or in other words, what would the apt-get command for this be? For S3Trio chipsets apt-get install xserver-s3 or for S3Virge apt-get install xserver-s3v I think that its only the Trio chipset driver that's broken in Woody (Version 4.1), so the first option is probably what you need. I'm in this thread late so I hope I'm not talking at cross purposes. And BTW, the vesa driver does work for S3Trio in Version 4.2 eg Knoppix 3.2. HTH Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual PC 5.2
OK, I now seem to be making some progress, although not quite enough. Following advice received on this list, I have used "lspci" to get the bus id of the video card, and then by running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" a few times, I have managed to get x-windows to start in 300x200 mode, using the vga driver. > Try the 'vga' driver. It might not be as good as the s3 driver on > real hardware, but it should at least be operational and give you > something to start with. "Might not be as good" is a bit of an understatement. The log-in window is larger than my screen, and I am too much of a newbie at this to have even figured out how to go back to the bash prompt. (I'll have to figure that out before I attempt to change anything else). The output from "startx" (before I got it working) shows the video card as having been detected as an s3 Trio32/64 (which is what Windows detects). I have tried manually editing the /etc/X11/XConfig file to use the "s3" driver, but apparently no such driver exists. Is "s3" not the correct name of the driver, or do I have to manually install it first? (I am using Woody 3.0 r1, default boot flavour) Thankyou. Adelle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:05:01PM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | I have tried the vga driver with no success. | | How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up | empty. lspci. For example, a machine here at work needed me to specify the busID. lspci on that machine reports : 01:00.0 Display controller: Texas Instruments TVP4020 [Permedia 2] (rev 01) ^^^ On that machine, in XF86Config, I have Section "Device" Identifier "Standard VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "glint" #Chipset"ti_pm2" #BusID "PCI:01:00:0" #VideoRam 8192 #Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection And be aware that one of the numbers is in hex while the other is in decimal; I forget which is which. (In this case it wouldn't matter, but in some it would.) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:05:01PM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | I have tried the vga driver with no success. | | How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up | empty. lspci. For example, a machine here at work needed me to specify the busID. lspci on that machine reports : 01:00.0 Display controller: Texas Instruments TVP4020 [Permedia 2] (rev 01) ^^^ On that machine, in XF86Config, I have Section "Device" Identifier "Standard VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Driver "glint" #Chipset"ti_pm2" #BusID "PCI:01:00:0" #VideoRam 8192 #Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection Hmm, I guess it doesn't need the BusID right now. ISTR it compalined about not having it when I set it up the first time. As for downgrading, I don't know. I would expect the 'vga' driver to work, in VGA mode, on any VGA-compatible hardware. I'm surprised that it doesn't work at all on your VirtualPC. I've never put linux in a VirtualPC, so I can't help with experience. -D -- Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. Proverbs 12:18 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Virtual PC 5.2
It appears that xfree86 does not support the base S3 card after 3.3.6. It only supports the savage series. Is there a recommended downgrade path that works? Or in other words, what would the apt-get command for this be? -Original Message- From: Michael Martinell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Virtual PC 5.2 I have tried the vga driver with no success. How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up empty. -Original Message- From: Derrick 'dman' Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual PC 5.2 On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:53:29AM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | It lists it as a VGA Compatible controller S3 Inc 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64+] Try the 'vga' driver. It might not be as good as the s3 driver on real hardware, but it should at least be operational and give you something to start with. | The x error is | Assigning device section with no busID to primary device | (EE) No devices detected. The driver you tried was unable to detect the device. Perhaps specifying the busID will solve that. -- One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them, One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, In the Land of Redmond, where the Shadows lie. www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virtual PC 5.2
I have tried the vga driver with no success. How do you get the busID? I have tried searching google but have came up empty. -Original Message- From: Derrick 'dman' Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual PC 5.2 On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:53:29AM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | It lists it as a VGA Compatible controller S3 Inc 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64+] Try the 'vga' driver. It might not be as good as the s3 driver on real hardware, but it should at least be operational and give you something to start with. | The x error is | Assigning device section with no busID to primary device | (EE) No devices detected. The driver you tried was unable to detect the device. Perhaps specifying the busID will solve that. -- One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them, One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, In the Land of Redmond, where the Shadows lie. www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:53:29AM -0600, Michael Martinell wrote: | It lists it as a VGA Compatible controller S3 Inc 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64+] Try the 'vga' driver. It might not be as good as the s3 driver on real hardware, but it should at least be operational and give you something to start with. | The x error is | Assigning device section with no busID to primary device | (EE) No devices detected. The driver you tried was unable to detect the device. Perhaps specifying the busID will solve that. -- One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them, One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, In the Land of Redmond, where the Shadows lie. www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Virtual PC 5.2
It lists it as a VGA Compatible controller S3 Inc 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64+] The x error is Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal Server error: No Screens found. -Original Message- From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virtual PC 5.2 Michael Martinell wrote: > > > I have tried every card (I think) listed and I have not had any luck > with virtual pc. > > > > If anybody out there knows what it takes to configure the startx for the > virtual pc environment I would be interested. I know that it works, as > I had it running with Knoppix at one time. Unfortunately my knoppix > disk got a big scratch and I have not downloaded it again. > > > > I have been using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to try to set this up. > Does "lspci" give you any indication as to what video chipset is detected? > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I hope this is the place for newbie questions... > > > > I am trying to install Debian on Virtual PC 5.2 (on a wintel box) > > > > The first part of the install works fine, but I am having trouble > > getting X-Windows to work. I have edited the XF86Config file > > to use the s3 driver, but I think I have made a mistake somewhere. > > > > The output from startx (or at least the last part of the output) > > is: > > > > (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge, > > 86C3 > >virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge > > gx2, > >86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365, > >trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368 > > (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device > > (EE) No devices detected. > > > > Fatal server error: > > no screens found > > > > I can't figure out if this means that the driver is not detecting the > > video card, or whether it means I have made a mistake in the > > configuration > > file. Any help on this would be appreciated. > > > > Adelle. > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
Michael Martinell wrote: I have tried every card (I think) listed and I have not had any luck with virtual pc. If anybody out there knows what it takes to configure the startx for the virtual pc environment I would be interested. I know that it works, as I had it running with Knoppix at one time. Unfortunately my knoppix disk got a big scratch and I have not downloaded it again. I have been using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to try to set this up. Does "lspci" give you any indication as to what video chipset is detected? Hi, I hope this is the place for newbie questions... I am trying to install Debian on Virtual PC 5.2 (on a wintel box) The first part of the install works fine, but I am having trouble getting X-Windows to work. I have edited the XF86Config file to use the s3 driver, but I think I have made a mistake somewhere. The output from startx (or at least the last part of the output) is: (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge, 86C3 virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2, 86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365, trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found I can't figure out if this means that the driver is not detecting the video card, or whether it means I have made a mistake in the configuration file. Any help on this would be appreciated. Adelle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
I have tried every card (I think) listed and I have not had any luck with virtual pc. If anybody out there knows what it takes to configure the startx for the virtual pc environment I would be interested. I know that it works, as I had it running with Knoppix at one time. Unfortunately my knoppix disk got a big scratch and I have not downloaded it again. I have been using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to try to set this up. Hi, I hope this is the place for newbie questions... I am trying to install Debian on Virtual PC 5.2 (on a wintel box) The first part of the install works fine, but I am having troublegetting X-Windows to work. I have edited the XF86Config fileto use the s3 driver, but I think I have made a mistake somewhere. The output from startx (or at least the last part of the output)is: (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge,86C3 virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virgegx2, 86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365, trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found I can't figure out if this means that the driver is not detecting thevideo card, or whether it means I have made a mistake in theconfigurationfile. Any help on this would be appreciated. Adelle.
Re: Virtual PC 5.2
Adelle L. Hartley wrote: I am trying to install Debian on Virtual PC 5.2 (on a wintel box) The first part of the install works fine, but I am having trouble getting X-Windows to work. I have edited the XF86Config file to use the s3 driver, but I think I have made a mistake somewhere. The output from startx (or at least the last part of the output) is: (II) S3VIRGE: driver (version 1.6.13) for S3 ViRGE chipsets: virge, 86C3 virge vx, 86C988, virge dx, virge gx, 86C375, 86C385, virge gx2, 86C357, virge mx, 86C260, virge mx+, 86C280, trio 3d, 86C365, trio 3d/2x, 86C362, 86C368 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found I'm unfamiliar with VirtualPC (expecially on wintel), but I suspect it handles video a bit like VMWare does. If so, it's probably "converting" whatever physical video card you have (in this case the Virge) into a specific "virtual" video card. This way, the VirtualPC itself doesn't have to know about umpteen different video cards; it only has to know about one. So instead of using the "s3" driver, you'd want to use the "virtualVid" (or whatever it might be called) driver. But this is just a guess. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
